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Av8rRob 02-17-2017 07:31 PM

Page 26-11 calls for 426ad4-4.5 none included
 
So on page 26-11 where you back rivet the f-01443 on the bottom skin it calls for rivets that weren't included. Yeah I know I can cut them from -5's but I need 40 of them. I guess my point is I would have gladly paid the extra $1.50 these would have cost. What did other builders do here?

gbataller 02-17-2017 08:38 PM

I'm actually just starting page 26-10 so you got my attention. I just looked at my rivet inventory and if you are talking about the AN426D4-4.5 rivets, they are found in bag 1303; more than enough. Did they not include them in your kit?

Av8rRob 02-17-2017 10:42 PM

Bag 1303 shows. 3-4.5 on my inventory. We need the 4-4.5.

gbataller 02-17-2017 11:30 PM

You are correct. That rivet was not provided. Time to do some snipping on -5 rivets. Agree; should have been provided but easy to do. Thanks for pointing this out, 1 day ahead of time. I'm doing the tail dragger version and trying to figure out all of the differences.

Cwood2000 02-18-2017 04:23 AM

I had an issue on the inboard rib for the tank, plans called for AN470AD4-5 which I could not get riveted because they were too long, clearly a 4.5 fit perfect. I called builder's assist and they told me if In doubt they always supply a longer rivet and expect the builder to judge if it needs to be trimmed, they don't supply -half on any size. B&C has -half sizes by the way. At least in this case they are giving you a heads up before the part gets ruined like my case. My rivet trimmer does not have half size which further complicates the issue for me.

Ron B. 02-18-2017 04:54 AM

I do not think I could build an aircraft without a full assortment of rivets on hand. Many times the plans call for a couple rivets and rather than search Van's bags , I just go to my stock tray and pick them out. Luckily rivets are not that expensive.

Tom023 02-18-2017 05:19 AM

I recently did this step. I back riveted -5s and of the 40 only had one clenched requiring replacement. Just line up square and 5s are fine. I don't like my rivet cutter much and I have a nice one. It tends not to cut squarely so increasing the chances for setting a bad rivet.

Av8rRob 02-18-2017 08:17 AM

Looking around online I can't even find a 4-4.5 for sale. My cutter so far sucks and the tips get a angle on them so I suppose I'll try the full length -5's. My suggestion to Vans is to either include these rivets or make the f-01443 plates a bit thicker for the -5's.

Av8rRob 02-18-2017 06:29 PM

Update- yes the -5's work fine as long as your careful.

gbataller 02-18-2017 06:41 PM

Just used my rivet-snipper to reduce the 5's down to 4.5's. Took about 10 minutes to do 40 of them and the cuts are clean and straight.


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