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Charles in SC 03-07-2017 07:45 PM

I consulted with a couple of local A&Ps and was told to heat the big brass contact with a torch and "tin" it with solder. Use a torch so you can get on and off of it with the heat fast so as not to melt the plastic part. "Tin" your wire and then solder the two together. I have not done it yet.

Saville 03-08-2017 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Charles in SC (Post 1155974)
I consulted with a couple of local A&Ps and was told to heat the big brass contact with a torch and "tin" it with solder. Use a torch so you can get on and off of it with the heat fast so as not to melt the plastic part. "Tin" your wire and then solder the two together. I have not done it yet.

Hi Charles,

To be sure I understand:

You tin the inside of the tubular contact and then the wire, and then solder them both together? Is the hole in the side of the brass contact the place where you introduce the solder?

According to the "Ground Power" article I listed above, you can gently pull that plastic tip off the inner contact before hitting the unit with the torch. That prevents it from melting.

Thanks for the info!

Jpm757 03-08-2017 08:30 AM

I used the Piper style plug on my RV6, mounted on the belly below the battery, worked great. Add a short pigtail to the plug and keep it in the plane. Great for starting or charging. On my 7 I located it on the lower forward belly just inboard of the r/h gear leg with an .040 doubler. Ran 4GA wire right to the battery relay. Simple.
Jake




Jpm757 03-08-2017 08:54 AM

Instead of going the torch and solder route, I stripped and tinned the cable, then drilled and tapped the brass receptacle for a 3/16 set screw with a dab of locate. Easy removal if required.
Jake

Jpm757 03-08-2017 09:06 AM

Dab of Loctite!

gasman 03-08-2017 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by gasman (Post 1143232)
This Piper jump plug is a Cole Hersee part. It can be found at any NAPA autoparts store.

Part number 11041 socket and 11042 is the plug. They are both too heavy to use on an RV for what they do.... You might look at welding machine taper lock lead connectors. They can be mounted flush with the skin. Miller used them on their small stick machines.

JEGS has them... Quick release charging lugs. Part # 555-10380

txshan130 03-08-2017 12:22 PM

Anyone know where to find the Piper plug insert shown in the pic above? The one with the red and black tabs with the yellow insulator...cant find that exact one anywhere online and would like to purchase one...



UOTE=flyboy1963;1143217]ok dudes, so let me get this straight....I had a little connector to 'charge' my battery, so would this Piper plug allow that, if wired correctly? sounds good!

second; if you have the Piper female port, and you're at the typical field around here on a weekend, you ain't gonna find a start-cart with a bunch of aviation plugs, you're more likely to find a quad and jumper cables!
....so will this port, with the little 'stem' thingy that you of course have carried with you (weight?) or the jumpers with the plug end on them ( more weight?) get you started?

...or would it just be better to design-in access to your battery, & use one of these little Lithium 'power brick' jumper babies (that you have in your glovebox... for charging your iPad anyway!???)...... about 2 pounds all-up :D[/quote]


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