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DanH 11-26-2016 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by LettersFromFlyoverCountry (Post 1129462)
Look, if you don't like it, don't put it in your plane. But, golly, it gets tiring watching the non-stop judgments of people's decisions with their EXPERIMENTAL airplanes.

Equally tiring to hear "experimental" used to justify purchasing more stuff delivered in a UPS box.

There are no experiments going on here.

Jesse 11-27-2016 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by daviid (Post 1129799)
only if you ignore the fact Dynon raised the price of the skyview display by $500 after eliminating the mapping license.

Where did you get this data point? Their prices didn't change on anything. Their new HDX screen was introduced at a slightly higher price point, but their existing products stayed at the same price as they were before, except the mapping became free.

daviid 11-27-2016 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesse (Post 1129835)
Where did you get this data point? Their prices didn't change on anything. Their new HDX screen was introduced at a slightly higher price point, but their existing products stayed at the same price as they were before, except the mapping became free.

their website

Snowflake 11-27-2016 09:51 AM

Claude, perhaps another option is available... Can the VPX be controlled with discrete switches as well? ie. could you build a switch panel that had cheap low-voltage switches, that triggered the ECB's in the VPX?

If so, and this would depend on your cockpit configuration of course, maybe you could build a simple switch panel that mounts to the bottom of your instrument panel, with a row of simple switches. That panel would connect with a harness back to your VPX. Then when Dynon adds support for the VPX to the HDX, you could remove the switch panel and reconnect the VPX to the HDX. The rest of your electrical system could then stay untouched downstream of the VPX.

pw3633@yahoo.com 11-27-2016 10:46 AM

VP-X not YET supported on Dynon Skyview HDX
 
I have the Dynon Skyview Touch 10" display and the VP-X in my 7A. The combination has worked well and I routinely review the status of all of the circuits on the Dynon display during run-up and in flight. Because this functionality is currently unavailable in the new HDX system I would not upgrade my screens.

https://photos.google.com/share/AF1Q...lWTksyVXNabGh3

dynonsupport 11-27-2016 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Snowflake (Post 1129881)
Claude, perhaps another option is available... Can the VPX be controlled with discrete switches as well? ie. could you build a switch panel that had cheap low-voltage switches, that triggered the ECB's in the VPX?

Rob, this is exactly how the VPX works in every case. You are supposed to wire up panel switches for things you turn on and off. The display on an EFIS is mainly of currents and faults for each channel, and an emergency backup to a broken switch.

dynonsupport 11-27-2016 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by daviid (Post 1129854)
only if you ignore the fact Dynon raised the price of the skyview display by $500 after eliminating the mapping license.

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Originally Posted by daviid (Post 1129854)
their website

Daviid,
Can you point out where on the website this is so we can fix it? When the 10" SkyView came out in 2009, it was $3,510 for the screen and $500 for a mapping license (one per airplane). This is still listed as $3,510 on our website everywhere I can find it (SkyView Classic).

Flying Canuck 11-27-2016 11:16 AM

I think I've come up with another option. I have a background in software development and a while back I built my own backup EFIS complete with GADAHRS using an Arduino for sensors and a Raspberry Pi 3 with a 7" touch screen as the front end. I wrote the user interface in Python and it all tested out great on the bench. However, I elected to not implement it and went with an AVMAP Ultra as my backup EFIS. So, here's the idea. The VP-X developer interface is documented and the SkyView serial output formats are documented. I could develop something on the Pi/Arduino that would give me full control of the VP-X, passing the required data from the SkyView (IAS, GS and RPM) back up to the VP-X. Just a matter of finding space in my panel for the screen. Just spitballing at this point but if I can get this to work, then I can keep all of my toys. Would give me something to do on the cold days this winter when I don't want to work in the garage.

VNS 11-27-2016 01:18 PM

Dynons comments are reveling.
""Right now we expect to put the VP-X on the HDX, but we don't have a timeframe we'd promise. We have a lot of things we want to keep adding to our systems so we're prioritizing VP-X along with everything else. Knowing customer demand sure helps.""

I was told at OSH this year all their Skyview screens were interchangeable - I could run a Classic in the same panel as the HDX. Now I can't. They obviously have two versions of V15 software, one for the classic providing VPX compatibility and one for HDX without. The VPX is indispensable for me and others which makes the G3X a good upgrade option. Customer demand is the only incentive for Dynon to provide compatibility. It's actually cost them resources to remove the VPX capability.

Jesse 11-27-2016 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by VNS (Post 1129914)
Dynons comments are reveling.
""Right now we expect to put the VP-X on the HDX, but we don't have a timeframe we'd promise. We have a lot of things we want to keep adding to our systems so we're prioritizing VP-X along with everything else. Knowing customer demand sure helps.""

I was told at OSH this year all their Skyview screens were interchangeable - I could run a Classic in the same panel as the HDX. Now I can't. They obviously have two versions of V15 software, one for the classic providing VPX compatibility and one for HDX without. The VPX is indispensable for me and others which makes the G3X a good upgrade option. Customer demand is the only incentive for Dynon to provide compatibility. It's actually cost them resources to remove the VPX capability.

Right now the screens do work together between the HDX and the Skyview classic, but they don't recommend it and neither do I. I flew beta for several weeks with this setup and with completely different menu structure and thought process, it complicates things more than it helps. If you are upgrading, do both. If you are happy with your current panel, do neither. I haven't tested VP-X on version 15 of the Skyview a Classic, but I assume it works.

And yes, there are two different version 15's, one for HDX and one for SkyView Classic.

As a comparison, when G3X developed a Touch version, not only were the screens not cross-compatible, but neither were the cutouts. I can't speak to the wiring, but the HDX is a complete drop-in replacement with only the need to add 2 screw holes to the panel, which takes <5 minutes.


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