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rleffler 10-30-2017 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GordonR (Post 1215153)
Bob,

How do I know if I have got a "new" EXP unit? Is there a serial number or a date of shipment which defines the new ones?

And you say "unless you have a new EXP..." What if I do have a new EXP, how do I attach a certified GPS to qualify for AMOC? The doghouse and v 7.0.0 software was going to do that.

And if we scrape up enough money for another unit, how do we know that they comply and will not do a NavWorx on us in a couple of years? Unless we go to Garmin of course and pay $5K!

GordonR

If you have a new EXP, you would know it as you would have received it in the last week or two. It looks different too.

I?m waiting to hear results from somebody that has one. I?ve already been contacted for assistance.

I can?t answer your last question. My only advice is to watch the FAA approved list and make sure the position source is listed. In the EAB market 90% of our vendors are small businesses. There are no guarantees.

Timberwolf 10-30-2017 07:28 PM

When the unit is trash I?ll pull it and not put one back in that plane. I?m waiting on the garmin Gdl-82 for the RV. Burned once, I?ll stick with garmin.

As a side note I was never informed by the FAA that there was an AD on this unit. Being as though it?s an experimental and ADs typically do not apply, (I know the argument when this whole fiasco started) I?m curious to see if they start contacting people after the AD date and start handing down fines.

Tracer 10 10-30-2017 07:54 PM

Garmin ADSB at 5k...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GordonR (Post 1215153)
Bob,

How do I know if I have got a "new" EXP unit? Is there a serial number or a date of shipment which defines the new ones?

And you say "unless you have a new EXP..." What if I do have a new EXP, how do I attach a certified GPS to qualify for AMOC? The doghouse and v 7.0.0 software was going to do that.

And if we scrape up enough money for another unit, how do we know that they comply and will not do a NavWorx on us in a couple of years? Unless we go to Garmin of course and pay $5K!

GordonR

I highly recommend the STRATUS APPAREO 1090ES Transponder. Model ESG for ADSB Out at under 2K or the ESGi for ADSB IN/OUT at 3K. It has worked perfectly the last 6 months in our RV6. Sold our KT76A and got the $500 rebate to offset the cost. And Yes—We got caught in the NavWorx ESG Debacle..!!

Abbygirl1 10-31-2017 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tracer 10 (Post 1215230)
I highly recommend the STRATUS APPAREO 1090ES Transponder. Model ESG for ADSB Out at under 2K or the ESGi for ADSB IN/OUT at 3K. It has worked perfectly the last 6 months in our RV6. Sold our KT76A and got the $500 rebate to offset the cost. And Yes?We got caught in the NavWorx ESG Debacle..!!


I did exactly that several months ago. I am very pleased with the Apparreo unit.....AND i got a new xponder to replace the aging KT76 to boot.

Jesse 10-31-2017 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GordonR (Post 1215153)
And if we scrape up enough money for another unit, how do we know that they comply and will not do a NavWorx on us in a couple of years? Unless we go to Garmin of course and pay $5K!

Don?t assume that it will be compliant just because it says Garmin on it. Ask the people who forked out huge dollars for the GDL90. People were trying to hit a moving target regarding ads-b for years. Let?s hope the target doesn?t continue to move.

roadrunner20 11-03-2017 07:39 AM

With the number of Navworx units in the AD, has there been a mention or discussion related to the Avidyne products that Navworx was producing for them?

Some of the early delivery issues where related to Navworx closing the line to produce a large order for Avidyne.

I've not heard mention of any of their devices.

DavidBunin 11-03-2017 09:33 AM

The units they made for Avidyne were receive-only boxes. They were never part of the AD, so not affected.

No word on how many units were built for Avidyne before NavWorx shuttered, but the assumption is "plenty".

FORANE 11-03-2017 09:42 AM

If it is the ads-b in box I am thinking of, they were asking around $2500 for it when it launched. Not sure how many would bite at that price.

emuyshondt 11-03-2017 02:55 PM

My new-to-me 182 came with one. Avidyne calls it a SkyTrax 100 or MLB100. The paperwork says it is a Navworx ADS600 B 200-11. The STC is from Navworx.

Avidyne doesn't say much about it. They are working on a new unit, but wouldn't give me any details. For now, the unit seems to be working ok. I would prefer a dual-band device, but this one will do for now. I am just learning it, as I got the 182 last week. It came with an Avidyne IFD540, AXP340 transponder/ADS-B Out and the Navworx unit. Since it doesn't transmit, it is not affected by the AD.

GordonR 11-03-2017 03:44 PM

Dallas Avionics
 
So here is the offer from Dallas Avionics that came in yesterday (Nov 2). I would like to hear opinions on the uAvionics systems mentioned. Do they replicate the functions of the defunct NavWorx EXP? Are we assured that uAvionics is approved by FAA and will not bite us again?

I welcome discussions and opinions.

GordonR



Attention: Experimental & LSA Aircraft Owners

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Working with uAvionix Corp., we are pleased to be offering the EchoUAT and SkyFyx Bundle (P/N ECHOFIX-KL5) at reduced price of $1090.00 (regularly $1499.00). The System bundle will come with a factory supplied "pig tail" harness/connector that will require no additional wiring making replacement system "plug and play" for those with an existing ADS600-EXP. (Those with experimental aircraft with the ADS-600B system are also included in this special but will require connector replacement). With all the capabilities of your existing system, the EchoUAT also provides Dual (978 & 1090) traffic as a dual frequency receiver.

In addition to the "plug and play" system, we will offer additional configurations to include a bundle with SKYFYX-EXT which includes replacement of your existing portable antenna with a GPS antenna with built in WAAS receiver (in antenna). This bundle is offered at a discounted price of $1050.00 (regularly $1399.00).

Lastly, for those customers that would like to interface an existing compatible WAAS GPS (Garmin, Avidyne, etc) we offer just the EchoUAT at a discounted price of $799.00 (regularly $999.00).

Customers must verify serial number of existing ADS-600EXP or ADS-600B system to qualify for this incredible one time offer. Dallas Avionics, Inc. will offer this price through 12/31/17.

Please visit dallasavionics.com or uavionix.com for detailed unit specifications. Dallas Avionics, Inc. will begin to accept orders on Friday 11/3/17.

Note: This solution is for Experimental and LSA aircraft only. Dallas Avionics, Inc. is working on a similar solution for Certified Aircraft Owners and should have additional information in the next coming weeks.

Dallas Avionics, Inc.
2525 Santa Anna Ave
Dallas, TX 75228
800-527-2581 / 214-320-9770


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