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srt 05-15-2016 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StuBob (Post 1078156)
A quick note for those with wings under construction:

I emailed Van's, told them I was just starting on the rear spar, and asked for advice. They answered "new kits will have the fix included. You can do it, too."

So I ordered the SB kit for a whopping $10. For those of us under construction, it's just a matter of putting two doublers on the forward side of the rear spar, opposite the aileron bracket. No reason not to do it.

Seems as though a reason not to do it would be keeping the ability to inspect this area. Installing the doublers will hide both sides of the spar. This seems to be a relatively rare cracking issue without a fully understood (by me, at least) cause. I haven't had time to analyze it, but I'm wondering if a better enhancement for those of us still under construction might be a partial rib that would put the aileron bracket loads into the skin.

Where is the load coming from that causes the cracking? Stick input forces being reacted against the aileron stops, maybe?

Mattmountain 05-15-2016 03:09 PM

RV7a
 
350hrs, good mix of aero and cross country time. No cracks ! Took a total of 15 min to open, inspect, photo and close back up

f14av8r 05-15-2016 03:14 PM

RV-4 No Cracks
 
Inspected my 1993 start 2000 completion RV-4 with 1050 airframe hours - NO CRACKS. I've flown a lot of aerobatics during the last 150 hours but I don't think the previous owner flew aerobatics often.

The first photo is a cell phone photo and was adequate to the task but the borescope provided a little closer look.

Cell Photo


Borescope

RV7A Flyer 05-15-2016 03:44 PM

I think what's more important than the "what" here is the "why".

Is there an explanation as to what is causing the (few, apparently) cracks in these locations? For the wings, for example, could it be unsecured ailerons being smacked around by high winds and torqueing the brackets? Ham-handed pilots during aerobatics slamming the controls to the side? Or, worse, "normal" forces which are being transferred to the location and then fractures arising at improperly deburred holes, e.g.?

Random responses from a small sample of RVs about presence or absence of cracks doesn't tell us much (and as pointed out, what would you do, NOT inspect them anyway at each annual?).

Brantel 05-15-2016 04:01 PM

2010 RV7 near 400 hrs. No cracks. Mild aerobatics.

carlrai 05-15-2016 04:59 PM

2009 RV-9. 460 hrs. No cracks.

bhester 05-15-2016 07:06 PM

Crack Free
 
2007 RV7A 920 hrs on the Hobbs Loops and Rolls - Crack Free

ArVeeNiner 05-15-2016 08:23 PM

210 hours, no cracks. RV9A.

rvbuilder2002 05-15-2016 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RV7A Flyer (Post 1079284)
I think what's more important than the "what" here is the "why".

Is there an explanation as to what is causing the (few, apparently) cracks in these locations? For the wings, for example, could it be unsecured ailerons being smacked around by high winds and torqueing the brackets? Ham-handed pilots during aerobatics slamming the controls to the side? Or, worse, "normal" forces which are being transferred to the location and then fractures arising at improperly deburred holes, e.g.?

Random responses from a small sample of RVs about presence or absence of cracks doesn't tell us much (and as pointed out, what would you do, NOT inspect them anyway at each annual?).

These two previous posts are a generalization of what is going on. I say that because there are many different variables that can come in to play.

http://www.vansairforce.com/communit...0&postcount=56

http://www.vansairforce.com/communit...91&postcount=7

rmartingt 05-16-2016 04:06 AM

I'm kind of torn on this one. My bottom skins are on, but I haven't riveted the flaps on yet. My wings are in the cradle and easier to work on. I'm wondering if it's worth it to go ahead with the mod while the wings are still somewhat easy to work on. I'm even willing to drill out and re-rivet a rib bay or so (bottom skin) if it'll lessen the chances of boogering up the spar. The hard part would be drilling out the hinge bracket rivets--IIRC I put the manufactured head on the inside.

Then again, it seems the odds of a crack are low, and the airplane could go its whole life without an issue.


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