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Auburntsts 02-22-2016 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by airmel (Post 1055683)
The ELT panel indicator must be in reach, so it needs to be in the center area.

Do you have a ref that directs that? I know what the ACK install manual says, but that's just one potential ELT make/model. Case in point, look at any late model C-172 panel and you find the ELT remote switch way over on the right-hand side of the panel similar to, but higher up than the location the OP showed on his layout.

supik 02-22-2016 05:48 PM

I would consider Avmap EKP V as an economical backup instr. It can do both: EFIS / EADI and GPS nav.



7" display, cradle, built in battery


Bluelabel 02-23-2016 10:18 PM

EFII Programmer
 
You're going to want to make room for this. Thinking that you are going to pull it out, connect it, and put it away is not realistic. Plus it's a good way to access tons of specific engine data. I couldn't imagine not having quick access to it.

rolivi 02-24-2016 04:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clutch22 (Post 1055927)
I am unsure of is - what is the annual cost of jepp subscriptions for the garmins?

I use Flitecharts on my 696. ~$500/yr bundled with terrain and AFD, etc.

I've not used Jepp, so I can't opine on the differences in cost or layout. For the 696 there is a one time fee to Jepp, then you buy the subscription.

Plummit 02-24-2016 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Auburntsts (Post 1055981)
Do you have a ref that directs that? I know what the ACK install manual says, but that's just one potential ELT make/model. Case in point, look at any late model C-172 panel and you find the ELT remote switch way over on the right-hand side of the panel similar to, but higher up than the location the OP showed on his layout.

The difference may be that in the 172S the inertial seat belts allow the pilot to reach the whole panel, including the ELT switch. I know when I'm strapped in to my -10 I have very limited reach unless I loosen or unbuckle the belts. Getting to the circuit breakers on the right side is tough!

-Marc

Auburntsts 02-24-2016 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plummit (Post 1056530)
The difference may be that in the 172S the inertial seat belts allow the pilot to reach the whole panel, including the ELT switch. I know when I'm strapped in to my -10 I have very limited reach unless I loosen or unbuckle the belts. Getting to the circuit breakers on the right side is tough!

-Marc

That's fine, and a practical limitation to be sure, but nowhere authoritative in the vein of "thou must" kind of direction. The Cessnas are just one make of production aircraft that do this -- Beechcraft and Mooney do the same thing to varying degrees.

Truth in lending, I mounted mine basically right in front of me above and to the left of my PFD so I'm arguing this point out of principle.

pierre smith 02-24-2016 08:22 AM

Door not locked lights.
 
The 10's are supplied with magnetic door pins and red lights illuminated tell you that a door is not secure. You really need those.

Best,

Auburntsts 02-24-2016 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pierre smith (Post 1056582)
The 10's are supplied with magnetic door pins and red lights illuminated tell you that a door is not secure. You really need those.

Best,

You don't need to use separate lights that come with the kit for this function as I'm pretty sure most if not all of the EFIS brands allow for user configurable annunciation of discrete inputs like door switches.

airmel 02-25-2016 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Auburntsts (Post 1055981)
Do you have a ref that directs that? I know what the ACK install manual says, but that's just one potential ELT make/model. Case in point, look at any late model C-172 panel and you find the ELT remote switch way over on the right-hand side of the panel similar to, but higher up than the location the OP showed on his layout.

I could not find a reference, so I stand corrected.

bkthomps 02-25-2016 08:11 AM

ditch the 650 and get a 750 with remote GMA35 audio panel

I have a 650 and i never use the darn thing, the 750 is much much better


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