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AviatorJ 02-18-2016 07:52 AM

Zip tie bases
 
Working through some cable/hose management ideas for my build. I've seen some ideas of using Adel clamps or making similar clamps out of scrap aluminium but these require you to rivet or run a bolt through ribs, jstiffners ect. I have somewhat of a concern about drilling through these things.

Has anyone had any success using a standard self adhesive zip tie base?



I've used these on a number of non aviation applications. Over time they come off, so I would probably use something like G/flex to bond them in place, but after that it's just a matter of using zipties to manage hoses, wires, ect.

Thanks for any input.

Auburntsts 02-18-2016 07:58 AM

Yes and no. Definitely no only using the adhesive backing they come with. I've had much better success scraping the adhesive off and "gluing" them in-place with Goop All purpose adhesive.

Bill Dicus 02-18-2016 08:32 AM

zip tie bases
 
I've used a lot of these from Home Depot, with very careful prep (mechanical clean, solvent, Scotchbrite) of surface to be adhered to and occasional augment of cement. Also used heat gun to heat up the surface before application.Only one of at least 100 came off in 5 years. Tried Click Bond also, following all the prep instructions to the "T". Three of about 20 fell off within a week. Don't use those anymore. YMMV. I don't know if all the bases have identical adhesive or if they're equally fresh at purchase?

fixnflyguy 02-18-2016 08:42 AM

Use Proseal or 3M 2216 adhesive
 
We use these in many applications on heavy jets at my day job.They are also available without the adhesive tape on them,but its easy enough to remove. They will last a life time if bonded with Proseal or 3M 2216 adhesive. I used them in many places on my -4, and Proseal or 3M 2216 is my go-to adhesive for almost everything.

wjnmd 02-18-2016 08:49 AM

Click-Bond
 
I used Click-Bond all over my RV-7A and only had one come off. I used them on metal after scratching with a Scotch-Brite pad and cleaning with acetone. I also used it on fiberglass to anchor their nutplates to attach the wingtip. I really like them

AviatorJ 02-18-2016 09:00 AM

Glad to hear people have had success with these. I'll go for it but still use G/flex or splurge for 3M 2216 to attach them. Will do the typical method of taping off an area and sanding down to bare aluminium prior to attaching. I think I'll also use an orange zip tie too... one because I like the color orange, two so if they do fall off it's more noticeable than a black zip tie hiding in the tail or fuselage.

On sizing do most people use the 1" ones, I think they come in 3/4 and 1.5+..

AviatorJ 02-18-2016 09:51 AM

Just came across these...



dimensions are 1.4" long, 3/4" wide. So this one is a tad too big, but I like the idea of gluing these from Jstiffners and managing cables, hoses, ect.

N804RV 02-18-2016 09:55 AM

I'd use the Click-Bond aviation grade bases. I don't think ones from Home Depot would last.

Kyle Boatright 02-18-2016 10:04 AM

I've used the Home Depot version and the Click Bond version. The click bonds have held up well in an oily environment. The stick-on's from HD came loose within a year in a pretty benign environment.

Shoe goo plus the HD version sounds like something to try.

Steve 02-18-2016 10:18 AM

I used the peel-n-stick (foam tape) variety from Radio Shack. They're still in place after 8+ years. I used acetone to clean the bare metal before sticking the pad to the surface.


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