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AIRCRAFT TYPE / SPECIAL EQUIPMENT
I have some confusion about filling in block 3 of an FAA flight plan; (Aircraft Type / Special Equipment) I thought it was RV12/G, but I am not so sure about the equipment suffix now. I'm fully Dynon equipped with a Skyview touch, Mode S transponder, and the ADS-B box. I'm not sure that the "G" states it well. Any thoughts??
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I had the same confusion and was advised to simply use /U.
I'll be interested to see what others recommend. (I have dual G3X touch/ADS-B, ES transponder) |
You file /G if you have an IFR certified GPS navigator installed in your aircraft. Neither the DYNON SkyView or Garmin G3X systems are IFR certified navigators so you use /U. Now, if you had a Garmin 430 or equivalent certified IFR GPS navigation equipment then you would file /G.
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This is an excerpt of the equipment code suffix usage: Note that it says "capabilites", not IFR certified. ___________________________________________ /G Global Navigation Satellite System (GNSS), including GPS or WAAS, with enroute and terminal capability. ___________________________________________ The above is from the (AFS-410, 7/31/05). If you can offer some documentation to support your statement, it would be greatly appreciated. Tom |
Hey Galin, Here is another example that is from Foreflight:
What equipment codes should I select? For example, is a G1000 a /P or a /S? You can select multiple options for Radio Communication, Navigation and Approach aids, on the Aircraft page. In the Radio Communication section, choose: S if your aircraft has a VHF comm radio AND a VOR AND an ILS receiver installed (all operational.) G if your aircraft has a GPS receiver that is installed and operational. If your aircraft has a G1000, you could select both S and G. Same goes for a GTN750, KSN770, GNS430, etc?; each would allow you to select S and G. However a handheld or portable GPS does not allow you to select ?G.? |
I use /U and just add "VFR GPS" and "406 hand held PLB" in the comments section.
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When I file I use U and on first ATC contact tell the controller I can proceed direct with a VFR GPS. They usually accept that.
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"You can put whatever you want for VFR, but for IFR operations, a bunch of AC's (including AC 20-138) and the AIM requires IFR certification to be considered GPS-equipped. What is the point of filing VFR /G if you can't legally fly an RNAV route?" Ref: AIM Tables 1-1-5 and 1-1-6 on page 1-1-24. The AIM states: "To be approved for use in the National Airspace System, RNAV equipment must meet the appropriate system reliability, accuracy and airworthiness standards." Ref: AIM Part 5-1-8(d)(2)(note) on page 5-1-15. :cool: |
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Foreflight is being a bit Certified aircraft centric. Note they list that you should have a GPS installed to use /G. Well, in a certified plane you can't install a non-certified GPS, so this is really saying the same thing. Thus, /U is appropriate. As a note internationally, without a certified GPS you also don't have ADS-B, so your SSR code is just S. |
It looks like I am free to use /G as long as I am not filing an IFR flight plan. I like using it because that lets the controller know that have "direct to" navigation capabilities. The rule stated that all I need is an installed, and functioning GPS to do so. I cannot come up with any negatives..........Tom
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Yeah, you're probably right. /U it is........Tom
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And when flying under VFR rules your primary navigation system is not a piece of equipment but your eyeballs. Everything else, certified or not, is for situation awareness.
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What is this "VFR flight plan" of which you speak?
Seriously, in a thousand hours of GA flying I have never filed one. Used flight following a lot. Filed IFR about a half of that total time after I got my ticket just to be in the system (when I was based in Houston). Anyone else never file a VFR plan? |
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It's just a flight plan and when filing it you have the option of VFR or IFR. |
Going obsolete...
Well apparently after March of 2016 we will need the codes for the harmonized ICAO Flight Plan...:)
https://iacra.faa.gov/iacra/faa7233-4.pdf The FAA agreed to an AOPA request to delay it's mandatory use 6 months from the previously announced Oct 1 deadline. The old form (and codes) will no longer be accepted |
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