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gmcjetpilot 08-17-2019 06:05 PM

Well this went into full thread drift. Back to Delta Hawk. That's pretty interesting they want you to pay 80 to $90,000 to be a beta tester and use your airplane to prototype different installations. Even more telling is the thread started in 2015 (Delta Hawk goes back much further) and here we are almost 2020 and they're still talking about it. Watching a YouTube video they say their real goal is certified market, so expect to pay certified prices. And by the way I believe it's a two stroke diesel. That's good for reliability but it's old farm tractor technology. I love Diesel. I have a diesel car (turbo, 4 valve per cylinder, common rail). It would be great if they could bring something to the market for much less money, but doesn't look like that's going to happen.

breister 09-14-2019 10:35 AM

^^^^^^^^^. Thread killer... :D

Marc Bourget 09-14-2019 04:02 PM

I've followed the engine from the inception and spoke with the designer. One of the original arguments advanced to justify the heavier engine is that you could accept less fuel load because of the better BSFC (efficiency) giving a net improvement in weight.

Captain Avgas 09-14-2019 05:50 PM

There?s been promises about this engine dating back to 1996....almost a quarter of a century. One of the guys in my chapter bought one of these engines in 2005 and paid up front in full. The lead time on the engine at that time was supposed to be 3 months. He was strongly advised against this decision but he could not be dissuaded. Needless to say he never got his engine or money back. Several years later DeltaHawk had a booth at the Avalon Airshow in Australia (largest airshow in Southern Hemisphere) and were taking deposits for an engine they said would be delivered within months. Forget about DeltaHawk.

Snowflake 09-15-2019 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Avgas (Post 1373638)
One of the guys in my chapter bought one of these engines in 2005 and paid up front in full... Needless to say he never got his engine or money back.

He should be bringing his receipt from that purchase to every airshow he attends and standing in front of the Deltahawk booth showing it to customers.

Chalkie 10-31-2019 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Avgas (Post 1373638)
There?s been promises about this engine dating back to 1996....almost a quarter of a century. One of the guys in my chapter bought one of these engines in 2005 and paid up front in full. The lead time on the engine at that time was supposed to be 3 months. He was strongly advised against this decision but he could not be dissuaded. Needless to say he never got his engine or money back. Several years later DeltaHawk had a booth at the Avalon Airshow in Australia (largest airshow in Southern Hemisphere) and were taking deposits for an engine they said would be delivered within months. Forget about DeltaHawk.

Back in 2003 I flew my RV-6 ZU-EAA from South Africa to OSH and back. I visited the DH booth and listened to the promises. Back in the RSA I started planning to break the record set by Alex Henshaw in February 1939. 4 Days 10 hours and 16 minutes London-Cape Town-London. Solo.

For me the 180HP DH "A" engine was the obvious choice, so at Sun 'n Fun 2004 I paid the $5000 deposit. The engine was to be delivered 'next year.' In 2008 I gave up on DH, borrowed a friend's GP4 and knocked 18 hours 59 minutes off the record.:)

Today I received an email asking me if I still want my engine. I have an agreement that says $25 500 (less deposit) and no extra charge for changes, additions or modifications.

Now I wonder who else is in the same position as me, and how do we ensure the company sticks to the signed agreement? $89 900 is way over the top.

DanH 10-31-2019 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Chalkie (Post 1383237)
Today I received an email asking me if I still want my engine. I have an agreement that says $25 500 (less deposit) and no extra charge for changes, additions or modifications.

Now I wonder who else is in the same position as me, and how do we ensure the company sticks to the signed agreement?

Easy...cash on delivery, no exceptions, assuming you still want it.

rv6ejguy 10-31-2019 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Chalkie (Post 1383237)
$89 900 is way over the top.

$90K is the asking price now? Sorry $89.9K...:eek:

Chalkie 10-31-2019 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by rv6ejguy (Post 1383275)
$90K is the asking price now? Sorry $89.9K...:eek:

That was the "Airshow Special" at OSH2019. The video is on their website.

Chalkie 10-31-2019 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DanH (Post 1383257)
Easy...cash on delivery, no exceptions, assuming you still want it.

COD, I get that. Agreed price 2004 or 'next year's' price? With DH, even today it is 'next year' we will be ready for production.


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