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RV7Guy 05-31-2015 04:18 PM

RV mid air
 
A friend sent me this link. Can't quite figure out where it happened. Lots of different camera angles in thumbnails below video.

http://www.youreporter.it/video_Air_...a_3_telecamere

southtarnation 05-31-2015 04:51 PM

That was an incredible recovery and water ditching and even rescue!

Mark Albery 05-31-2015 05:01 PM

From the ASN:

Quote:

Two aircraft were performing an aerobatics display along the coastline at Alba Adriatica, Italy, when they collided in mid-air. One aircraft, Van's RV-8 I-LOVI, lost a wing and crashed into the sea, killing the pilot.
The pilot of the other aircraft, Van's RV-7 I-AMEL, managed to make a forced landing on the shoreline, causing the airplane to flip upside down.
Horrific to watch, but thankful that there was help to rescue the RV-7 pilot. That could be very difficult to self rescue inverted in shallow water.

jpowell13 05-31-2015 05:32 PM

Ditching versus trees
 
Recalling the prior discussion of ditching versus landing in trees, I think I'll take my chances in the trees. John

scrollF4 05-31-2015 08:14 PM

Roll call. Does anybody know the pilots' identities? VAFers? Luca?

bkthomps 05-31-2015 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scrollF4 (Post 987160)
Roll call. Does anybody know the pilots' identities? VAFers? Luca?

Two aircraft were performing an aerobatics display along the coastline at Alba Adriatica, Italy, when they collided in mid-air. One aircraft, Van's RV-8 I-LOVI, lost a wing and crashed into the sea, killing the pilot.
The pilot of the other aircraft, Van's RV-7 I-AMEL, managed to make a forced landing on the shoreline, causing the airplane to flip upside down.

Mark Albery 05-31-2015 08:40 PM

From the display team website, the RV-8 belonged to MARCO RICCI and the RV-7 to LUIGI WILMO FRANCESCHETTI.

They were partaking in a display with the air base nearby.

Barry 05-31-2015 11:31 PM

Very sad, I know Luigi and have met him several times in Italy.
I hope he has not been injured.

Barry

Malndi 05-31-2015 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Albery (Post 987099)
From the ASN:



Horrific to watch, but thankful that there was help to rescue the RV-7 pilot. That could be very difficult to self rescue inverted in shallow water.

Horrific indeed. Thankfully the RV7 pilot has done an excellent job of controlling his damaged aircraft and putting it down right where help was available. Hope he is ok.

Ditching in an RV is one of my greatest concerns so I hope we can learn more about this event. I watched several of the video clips and it's clear from one of the views the pilot managed to get the slider canopy almost fully open prior to ditching, but in another view the high deceleration from the first contact with the water appears to have slammed it shut even before the aircraft went over. That in itself could cause a head injury. I have a lifehammer attached to the side panel but I doubt it's effectiveness in a ditching.

sblack 06-01-2015 04:55 AM

Does anyone know if he was successfully rescued?

bkthomps 06-01-2015 07:10 AM

Rv7 pilot walks away in the video, crowd can be heard clapping

Rv8 pilot did not make it based on reports

777Dave 06-01-2015 09:13 AM

ditching
 
Canopy appears to be open prior to landing.... smart!

bret 06-01-2015 09:35 AM

In the head on vid of him aproaching to ditch in the water you can see the L wing leading edge badly damaged and torn, prop stoped and broken. and he glided it in no power great aircraft control. amazing to see how well this plane flew all tore up.

Barry 06-01-2015 09:42 AM

Here are a few more videos of the accident an Luigis water landing.
It looks as though the leading edge of his left wing was badly damaged.
Perhaps that is why he made a no flap dead stick splash down.
A great bit of flying on his part as after the shock he brought the plane down very close to the shoreline as there seems so have been no one in the sea.

Apparently Luigi managed to walk away from the accident so that was good news.

http://www.youreporter.it/video_Alba...voli_coinvolti

http://www.youreporter.it/video_Air_...eo_ravvicinato

http://www.youreporter.it/video_Inci...deo_ingrandito


Barry RV6a sold France

RickWoodall 06-01-2015 01:19 PM

Yikes
 
That is horrible.
The inverted plane rolled over and into the level plane, wow thats got to be horrible sight in the windscreen with no time to react, the two planes where tangled together and dropping and miraculously the lower plane broke free, recovered, and with damage and engine out managed to ditch and even open canopy prior to touch down.... Wow, that is some great pilot work keeping your wits about you and saving your bacon.

Sad to watch but just shows you that no matter how bad, fly the plane....right to the ground.

bkthomps 06-01-2015 05:00 PM


eddieseve 06-02-2015 02:22 AM

My condolences to the family of the pilot that lost his life.

To the other members of "The Good Fellas" you have my sincerest sympathy for the loss of your friend and team member.

AirbusPilot 06-02-2015 03:00 AM

Very very sad!!!

We are flying formation aerobatics here in Chile with two more RV fellows, and watching this make us wonder if we should continue or not.

Big question is why the aircraft number one suddenly roll out of his inverted pass, at least at our team I call clear to aircraft number one to roll out of this maneuver, if he is in trouble he has to call before roll out!!!

My condolence to family and friends.

Ettore 06-04-2015 04:22 AM

Hi everyone, Luigi was released from the the hospital a couple of days ago, he's fine, at least physically speaking.

Fernando, the cause is still unknown, but for sure that wasn't the point where the upper aircraft was supposed to roll out, they were just at the beginning of the display line... Maybe a technical problem, but who knows... We have to wait for the investigation.

This is how the two aircraft look now. :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quFFdjwN0jk

Snowflake 06-04-2015 07:15 AM

Ettore, thanks for that link... Is the narrator just describing what you're looking at in the video, or does he say anything that we can't already learn from the video itself?

Ettore 06-04-2015 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snowflake (Post 988152)
Ettore, thanks for that link... Is the narrator just describing what you're looking at in the video, or does he say anything that we can't already learn from the video itself?


Yes, he's just describing what you see in the vid.

mv031161 06-07-2015 09:27 AM

Another one in Italy
 
This time in Lido. Rv8

rockwoodrv9 06-07-2015 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mv031161 (Post 988882)
This time in Lido. Rv8

Another mid air? Do you have a link?

AlphaCharlieBravo 06-07-2015 10:55 AM

http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=176705

ccsmith51 06-07-2015 11:11 AM

Interesting comment on the link provided above...
 
"A massacre was avoided."

Ettore 06-07-2015 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockwoodrv9 (Post 988901)
Another mid air? Do you have a link?

Nope, not a mid air.

Probably an engine failure after takeoff, here's a link with some pics and a short video, sorry that the article is in Italian.

http://nuovavenezia.gelocal.it/venez...oti-1.11572992

BTW the plane was from Austria, and the occupants are safe.

luigi_from_italy 07-01-2015 02:01 PM

Thanks to everyone
 
Hi guys,

thanks for the nice messagges, I am Luigi, the other pilot of the mid air collision.

Barry, Riccardo told me that you contacted him, thank you again.

Ciao
Luigi

jdwky 07-02-2015 07:53 PM

Luigi,
Amazing job on the recovery and landing from that horrible accident. Best wishes for a speedy recovery and hope you get back in the air soon.
jd


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