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Berchmans 04-30-2015 01:32 PM

ADS-B options
 
I am not a very technical person so am looking for some input on the ADS-B requirement. My RV8 has a pretty minimum panel, a DYNON FlightDEK 180 with a KT76C transponder. I use a handheld Garmin GPS. What are the options for installing the minimum equipment required to satisfy the upcoming ADS-B requirements?

BobTurner 04-30-2015 01:52 PM

It is complicated.
Do you currently go places requiring a mode C transponder? If the answer is no, that means you avoid class A,B, C airspace, mode C veil, stay below 10,000'. If you continue to do that you need do nothing.
If you want to fly into those areas, then, by 2020, you must install an ADSB-out transmitter and a "position source" to feed it data.
The transmitter can be a mode S-ES transponder (sell your KT-76) or a "UAT" transmitter (keep the KT-76). Either of these must meet the requirements of some TSO standard ($$). The position source will be a gps which meets specifications outlined in FAR 91.227 (more $$).
My advice is to wait until the market sorts itself out.

bullojm1 04-30-2015 02:06 PM

Hi Burke,

NavWorx (http://www.navworx.com) has a low-cost solution that should suit your needs. Their ADS600-EXP Transceiver is an 2020 compliant (Complies with the ADS-B Final Rule Technical Amendment, dated 2/9/2015, affecting 14 CFR 91.225 (b)(1)(ii) which permits ADS-B OUT in the National Airspace with devices that meet the performance requirements of TSO-C154c.)IN/OUT device. For it to work, you will need to install a GPS antenna for it to get position information, an UAT antenna and their TRANSMONSPE module to get the squawk code your KT-76 transponder is sending.

Total cost will be between $1500 and $2000 (http://www.navworx.com/navworx_store...DS600_EXP.html). On the plus side, it has a wifi access point which will allow a tablet running WingX, Seattle Avionics FlyQ or iFly to receive traffic and weather.

They haven't started to ship this new product yet, but they should within the next few weeks. I will report back when I receive mine and get it installed.

Walt 04-30-2015 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bullojm1 (Post 979236)
Hi Burke,

NavWorx (http://www.navworx.com) has a low-cost solution that should suit your needs. Their ADS600-EXP Transceiver is an 2020 compliant (Complies with the ADS-B Final Rule Technical Amendment, dated 2/9/2015, affecting 14 CFR 91.225 (b)(1)(ii) which permits ADS-B OUT in the National Airspace with devices that meet the performance requirements of TSO-C154c.)IN/OUT device. For it to work, you will need to install a GPS antenna for it to get position information, an UAT antenna and their TRANSMONSPE module to get the squawk code your KT-76 transponder is sending.

I think the "compliant" part remains to be seen, saying something on a website is not the same as having proof that it meets the requirements.

Don't forget like most aircraft operations, it's the operator that will be on the hook if there is a question of compliance with the regs not the vendor. :eek:

roadrunner20 05-04-2015 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bullojm1 (Post 979236)

They haven't started to ship this new product yet, but they should within the next few weeks. I will report back when I receive mine and get it installed.

According to Navworx, they were to ship the first 20 units last week.

Fred.Stucklen 05-04-2015 09:10 AM

NavWorx
 
I just got off the phone with NavWorx concerning the ship date. According to them, I'm #10 on the shipment list. They haven't shipped yet, but do expect to ship by the end of this week or early next week (5/8 - 5/12).....

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Originally Posted by roadrunner20 (Post 980178)
According to Navworx, they were to ship the first 20 units last week.


roadrunner20 05-04-2015 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Fred.Stucklen (Post 980191)
I just got off the phone with NavWorx concerning the ship date. According to them, I'm #10 on the shipment list. They haven't shipped yet, but do expect to ship by the end of this week or early next week (5/8 - 5/12).....

Delays, delays, delays.
I was told last week of the ship dates and then mine would be shipped mid- May
I do know my harness is built.
I'm #74. :(

I hope I get it before Oshkosh.


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