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bobnoffs 10-15-2014 06:04 PM

2x or 3x rivet gun?
 
what would you recommend for a project that is vastly 1/8 rivets and maybe 5% 3/32 rivets, a 2x or 3x gun?

also, your 2 or 3 favorite shaped bucking bars?
can you tell i want to get into solid rivets?

alpinelakespilot2000 10-15-2014 06:31 PM

You can always dial down a 3x. You can't dial up a 2x. In my opinion, the bucking bar will matter more than whether you use a 2x or 3x though.

wirejock 10-15-2014 06:33 PM

Rivet gun
 
Rivet gun...Sioux 3X
Bucking bar...Titanium rectangular one with the angled face on one end.

aerhed 10-15-2014 06:55 PM

I use a 4x for virtually everything. Longer stroke equals harder hits, equals less hits equals less hardening.

wirejock 10-15-2014 07:25 PM

Tunsten
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BruceEicher (Post 925446)
Or better yet a tungsten but same shape. :p

Dangnabbit! I do that all the time. I have a titanium rod in my tibia from knee to ankle from a broken leg so it must be on the brain.
Tungsten bar! Titanium leg. Gotta get that right.

N941WR 10-15-2014 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BruceEicher (Post 925446)
Or better yet a tungsten but same shape. :p

Get the tungsten bars and a 2X and a 3X. While I built my -9 with a hand squeezer and a 3X gun a friend built his -7A with a 2X gun.

What I found was the 3X is great when riveting a lot of structure, say along the longerons or three or more skins together.

The 2X is great for skin to rib or skin to bulkheads AKA the places that will be seen. The 2X is light enough that it is very difficult to dent the skins with it.

Buy a hand squeezer from Avery's and a longeron and no-hole yoke and what you can's squeeze you can drive.

wjb 10-15-2014 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wirejock (Post 925436)
Bucking bar...Titanium rectangular one with the angled face on one end.

+1. Absolutely; a tungsten BB will become your favorite go-to bar, guaranteed. (see, Wirejock; I error corrected! At least a Ti and W bar would be about the same price :-o)

rvbuilder2002 10-15-2014 11:42 PM

Since you said the project you are considering is 95% 1/8 rivets, my recommendation would be for at least a 3X.
My preference is a 2X for 3/32 rivets put you will have so few it probably wouldn't matter.

The bucking bar that is my favorite is no longer available so I can't recommend anything, but for 1/8 rivets stick with bars on the heavier side.

Thinking about building a T18?

brad walton 10-16-2014 07:38 AM

Plus one for the 4x. It seems to me to cause less skin distortion. You said mostly 1/8 inch. For me a 3x would be the minimum. Oh, and get one with a good feathering trigger.

ppilotmike 10-16-2014 09:14 AM

Tungsten Bar & 3X Gun
 
..dial up or down. i wouldn't go smaller than a 3x gun.


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