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Chino Tom 10-19-2013 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aerovin (Post 817926)
Or something official from FAR Part 61 Definitions:

Cross-country time means?

(i) Except as provided in paragraphs (ii) through (vi) of this definition, time acquired during flight?

(A) Conducted by a person who holds a pilot certificate;

(B) Conducted in an aircraft;

(C) That includes a landing at a point other than the point of departure; and

(D) That involves the use of dead reckoning, pilotage, electronic navigation aids, radio aids, or other navigation systems to navigate to the landing point.


The paragraphs (ii) though (vi) above refer to time logged for certificates.

As stated above, I log as cross country flight if anytime during that flight i land
at an airport other than the departure airport. IF i were logging time for a cerificate it would be at airports over 50nm from the departure airport.

rzbill 10-19-2013 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toobuilder (Post 817879)
If the wheels touch the ground at least 50 miles apart

Man! That's what I call wide stance gear! :D

Mel 10-19-2013 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rzbill (Post 818003)
Man! That's what I call wide stance gear! :D

Maybe it;s not wide stance. Maybe it's loooooong tail-dragger!

Jesse 10-19-2013 06:41 PM

I understand the question was not in relation to the rules. I always log Cross-Country according to the rules. I don't see the point if logging it as cross country st all if not in relation to the rules. Does cross country time count for anything other than up through commercial ratings?

Toobuilder 10-19-2013 07:32 PM

Agreed, not much use in logging the time as a PP. I started logging the time early on as a pilot so I could meet the requirements for the advanced ratings. Despite the fact that I have far in excess of the required cross country time in my book now (and yet no further ratings) I just kind of stuck with it out of habit.

John RV8 10-19-2013 07:56 PM

X/C time
 
In the spirt of Paul Dye's post the 1986 flight of Dick Rutan and Jeana Yeager in the Voyager going non-stop around the world in just over 9 days was not a cross country flight either as they departed and landed at the same airport.

scsmith 10-19-2013 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toobuilder (Post 817879)
If the wheels touch the ground at least 50 miles apart, then I log that leg as cross country.

Wow, I don't think I've ever had my wheels touch the ground more than about 7 feet apart:D

John RV8 10-19-2013 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scsmith (Post 818051)
Wow, I don't think I've ever had my wheels touch the ground more than about 7 feet apart:D

In a strong crosswind I've had one wheel touch the runway way more than 7 feet down the runway from where the first one touched

John Clark 10-19-2013 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John RV8 (Post 818060)
In a strong crosswind I've had one wheel touch the runway way more than 7 feet down the runway from where the first one touched

Heck, I can routinely do that without a crosswind. :rolleyes:

John Clark ATP, CFI
FAAST Team Representative
EAA Flight Advisor
RV8 N18U "Sunshine"
KSBA

scsmith 10-20-2013 12:30 AM

Yeah, but.....
 
Yeah, but, the two wheels are still only 7 ft apart - just sayin.

If you fly a long distance and return to the home airport without landing somewhere else, did it take any different navigational skills? did it take any different judgement in assessment of acceptable/safe weather, aircraft performance, terrain, etc?
All the things that make cross country different than shooting patterns - I think you should take credit for the cross country experience even if you don't touch down on another airport. ( I suppose there is an aspect of assessing and flying a safe pattern and landing at a strange airport- but now the criteria would be lack of familiarity, not distance)

Many people have flown 1000 Km flights in gliders - and after all, the goal is NOT to land on another airport. How could you say that's not cross country?


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