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OSH Fiske arrival question
I'm flying our company Bonanza to OSH and have a question for you OSH vets. This B36TC doesn't like to fly at 90 kts so I'll take the 2,300' 135 kt route like I did last year, but here's the question: at what point do you descend to 1,800' pattern altitude? I've scoured the NOTAM and can't find anything. Descending into traffic with a low wing aircraft concerns me which is why I'm asking.
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I don't know the answer but I would guess when they split you off for 1 runway or the other.
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This issue has been discussed every year. Scott Card summed it up well earlier this month. "We do have this conversation each year don't we. I have the usual notam right here in front of me. Also, as usual, it is very clear that it doesn't matter what MY "preference" is. It says: Do THIS, "if unable", do THAT. Now, if we decide to ignore the details fo the notam, that is indeed your choice". Scott is being polite, remember that a NOTAM has regulatory power if someone wants to take you to task.
Bluntly, if you are "unable" to fly a Bonanza at Vso +30 for a few miles you might want to get some instruction. By the way, my Baron didn't mind flying at 90 kts. John Clark ATP, CFI FAAST Team Representative EAA Flight Advisor RV8 N18U "Sunshine" KSBA |
At Fisk
At fisk the will give you your runway assignment and have you descend to 1800. You still have to integrate into the lower traffic.
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An engine failure at that speed and altitude would put you and your passengers in a world of hurt, and there is no reason to expose yourself to that risk. Randy's question is reasonable, and I think operating a bonanza in the high pattern meets the spirit and letter of the notam. It is safer at 135 knots in an airplane that is easier to fly at that speed and can easily mix with the other "high" traffic. Most of us could land an RV in a 20 knot direct crosswind, but that doesn't mean we should if there's a better runway available. |
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Not my understanding
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My plan this year is a minimum of 10nm from Ripon to be at altitude and head on a swivel. If your higher than everybody, they will be very hard to see. |
Bonanza at 90 Kts?
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Regarding the B55, I believe Vmc is around 80 kts, and Vsse is around 86 kts. Skylor RV-8 N808SJ |
A Bonanza of some flavor flew on my right wing from Ripon to Fiske last year. Guy was close! The controllers were yelling at him to fall in line over the tracks but he was clueless.
Yep, they will fly @ 90kts or at least that one did. :p |
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From the looks of things, I will have a pretty stiff crosswind at arrival tomorrow. Please don't watch my landing! :eek: |
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John Clark ATP, CFI FAAST Team Representative EAA Flight Advisor RV8 N18U "Sunshine" KSBA |
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