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KatieB 07-24-2013 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vlittle (Post 790568)
If I was GRT, MGL, TT or VP I would be afraid, very afraid...

I wasn't going to chime in here, but since you mentioned us... GRT has great stability, low overhead and solid goals for the future. We are not afraid.

tmbg 07-24-2013 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KatieB (Post 791099)
I wasn't going to chime in here, but since you mentioned us... GRT has great stability, low overhead and solid goals for the future. We are not afraid.

GRT makes a great product at a reasonable price, and has excellent customer service. I'm not worried for you guys :)

BobTurner 07-24-2013 12:06 PM

Innovation frequently is from the smaller companies. I see Big G is touting its newest feature - a green arc on the map showing where you'll intercept the set altitude. A feature that GRT has had for years.

I sure hope you (I mean all the small companies) stay around.


[ed. Didn't the G1000 have this feature back in 2009? My uneducated guess, Bob, is they are simply migrating certified, top-level code downward into the experimental stuff. dr]

Edit reply: maybe, I don't know. Just commenting on what's posted today on VAF.

kinger 07-24-2013 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KatieB (Post 791099)
I wasn't going to chime in here, but since you mentioned us... GRT has great stability, low overhead and solid goals for the future. We are not afraid.

Sounds like an Eminem (from Michigan too) song:) "We are not afraid"

DaleB 07-24-2013 04:15 PM

Mike, I root for the underdog as much as anyone else, and Garmin is an easy target because they're big (well, bigger) and all. I don't see anything that they've done that has been anti-competitive, though. Their experimental offerings are not priced all that aggressively -- they're on par with Dynon from what I have seen. They're supporting some non-Garmin products such as autopilots. They're just big because they're an older company with a broad product line, including consumer stuff (and seriously, who in their right mind wants that market??) and in the aviation market they have spent BIG money to get their products certified. Personally, I'm a little surprised that there are as many experimental EFIS manufacturers as there are. Given the size of the market, I'd expect to see about half as many.

As for the Dynon/AFS deal, I wish them all the best. I don't recall ever seeing a deal like this really result in two "separate but equal" companies and product lines that just happen to be owned by the same people. The Honda/Acura and Toyota/Lexus comparisons are not exactly spot on, because Lexus and Acura (and Infiniti, and so on) were created as brands for marketing higher-end offerings from manufacturers not exactly known at that time for building luxury cars.

I know it could work, and I know how I'd make it work, but I'm sure they have their own business plan. I'm looking forward to seeing how all of this shakes out. I'm at least a year out from making any panel decisions, so I'm glad the Garmin expansion into the experimental market and this deal are happening now, not when I'm trying to actually make a decision. For those who are making their buying decisions now, I feel for you. I'm glad I'll be able to let things stabilize for another year or so.

wirejock 07-24-2013 04:48 PM

Good business
 
I'm with you Dale. We are both about the same place in our build.
I agree. This may be a blessing.
Now as for engines...:eek:

Mike S 07-24-2013 05:13 PM

I can just imagine the two Robs sitting back enjoying a cold adult beverage, and reading this thread..............

Bill_H 07-24-2013 07:49 PM

Disclosure: I LOVE my RV-12 Dynon Skyview. I LOVE my Garmin auto Nuvi. I LOVED the Garmin 430 we put in our Bonanza. The rise of Garmin has been one of the most important things in avionics ... Ever.

In the South we have a saying: You dance with who brung ya. Garmin stuff is GREAT but often just "barely" affordable. And updates? Very expensive... But then it is very expensive to create TSO avionics and they stepped up with the investment and capability and revolutionized the industry. Years elapse, and now we think of them as Microsoft... And with some justification.

In the experimental world I think we do ourselves a long term favor to ensure avionics competition. Keepthat in mind as you make your buying decisions.

Flybipe 07-24-2013 10:08 PM

Kind of reminds me of when...
 
...JPI bought Vision MicroSystems. VM is now dead. What'd that take, about 3-4 years?

viking 09-05-2013 07:28 PM

Merger facts for dummies
 


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