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SteinAir 05-30-2013 09:06 PM

Truth be told, most of those finished panel pics predate the availability of all these remote txpdrs. Now I'd say that about 85-90% of folks are using them. We just havent gotten the past 6+ months worth of finished panel pics out yet. If I may suggest, I'd recommend you sit back and watch developments of all these neat avionics, because by the time you'll be ready for them I can guarantee there will be some changes coming down the road. Also, if you get a chance, flying behind the units if you can will give you a whole different perspective as well as playing with them all before you buy.

Just my 2 centas as usual!

Cheers,
Stein

sbalmos 05-30-2013 09:57 PM

Bringing the topic somewhat back to the original post again, am I noticing a few new or changed options? The last I knew, the remote transponder that Rob was offering was a Mode C only. Now it's a Mode S? And it looks like there's now a specific AFS-branded ADSB receiver. A different EFIS AOA option option, in addition to the usual Pro/Sport.

Just noticing a few new things that don't seem to be mentioned in the product info pages themselves.

BTW, just out of curiosity, if one doesn't get the advanced map upgrade, what does show up on the map screens? Just a base map, no sectional, IFR low/hi, etc? There's no data of what the "basic map option" is.

Randle 05-31-2013 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by sbalmos (Post 775420)
The last I knew, the remote transponder that Rob was offering was a Mode C only.

You can utilize Dynon’s SV-XPNDR-261 Remote Transponder that is a Mode S, I believe the Trig TT22 is also supported which is Mode S

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Originally Posted by sbalmos (Post 775420)
And it looks like there's now a specific AFS-branded ADSB receiver.

Like we said in earlier posts, you can go with the ADS-b receiver that they offer, which last I heard was a Navworx, or research and choose your own. Many of the Rx’s will work with Advanced flight like the $695 Xplorer that can be viewed on Aircraft Spruce’s website

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Originally Posted by sbalmos (Post 775420)
A different EFIS AOA option, in addition to the usual Pro/Sport.

You have the option of having the AOA displayed on your panel separate from the EFIS in the sport or Pro display, or you can have it displayed in the EFIS. Many users of other EFIS brands use AFS’s AOA display, so the latest option you noticed is for AFS’s Efis display.

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Originally Posted by sbalmos (Post 775420)
BTW, just out of curiosity, if one doesn't get the advanced map upgrade, what does show up on the map screens? Just a base map, no sectional, IFR low/hi, etc? There's no data of what the "basic map option" is.

Purchase the AF-MAP once, after trying it out and you like it, and you continue to have public and private airports, terrain, obstacles, airspaces, state lines, navigational beacons and intersections. Airport information is also displayed; including runways, frequencies, traffic patterns, elevation, pattern altitude and fuel availability. The IFR maps and sectionals are a separate purchase for those that would use them. As far as the Synthetic Vision and other items, I don’t know, the website is vague in the details.

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Originally Posted by sbalmos (Post 775420)
Just noticing a few new things that don't seem to be mentioned in the product info pages themselves.

This is just about one of the only gripes I have about Advanced Flight, Their website is not very well laid out or detailed. I have found myself calling them numerous times to get information about their products that “should” be detailed on their website. Most of the info I have comes from other users, calling them, or Google.

penguin 05-31-2013 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by sbalmos (Post 775420)
Bringing the topic somewhat back to the original post again, am I noticing a few new or changed options? The last I knew, the remote transponder that Rob was offering was a Mode C only. Now it's a Mode S? And it looks like there's now a specific AFS-branded ADSB receiver. A different EFIS AOA option option, in addition to the usual Pro/Sport.

Just noticing a few new things that don't seem to be mentioned in the product info pages themselves.

BTW, just out of curiosity, if one doesn't get the advanced map upgrade, what does show up on the map screens? Just a base map, no sectional, IFR low/hi, etc? There's no data of what the "basic map option" is.

Yes, transponder is now Mode S - I believe the Trig box controlled remotely.

AoA - as Randle said, either display it on the EFIS, using a Pro like graphic, or use a separate display (either Pro or Sport). I have a separate Sport display as it was fitted before the EFIS.

If the map key is not purchased there is no map page, its just not there. Its also not possible to split the main screen in 3. If an SD card with the terrain database is loaded the I'm told the Synthetic Vision will work.

I have an AF-4500 and have just flown behind it for 15 hours around France, Italy, Austria and Germany. Brilliant! Everything on one screen that is easily visible with sunglasses on. I like SV, especially as airfields ahead are shown with their identifier overhead. This was the first time I used in in mountains - certainly is accurate! For Europe the Pocket FMS nav database is far better and cheaper than Jepp. I am very happy with my choice. Installation was straight forward with no huge AHRS to mount (everything is behind the screen), wiring harnesses provided. Easy integration with other boxes. I have tried several moving maps, this is the only one I have been able to see easily with sunglasses on.

Pete


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