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gdrudolph 07-24-2020 09:45 AM

Continental CD-265 Jet-A Engine
 
A friend I work with, Guil, enlightened me to this engine and I have fallen in love with it!! Anyone know of any Vans certification progress from Continental or Vans on this front?

http://www.continental.aero/diesel/engines/cd200.aspx

Cheaper gas cost
Turbo
4 cylinder
265 HP
11.7 gal/hr. burn
Hoping Garmin integration for emergency land feature (a feature that would help me sell my build to the CEO of our household).

The CD-230 to CDR-285 is a family of four-stroke 4-cylinder, air/oil-cooled, horizontally opposed, direct-drive piston aircraft engines with turbocharger and direct injection. The engine has a maximum continuous power of 265 HP @ 2500 RPM

rv6ejguy 07-24-2020 12:12 PM

Would be interesting to know at what hp the 11.7 gph FF figure is obtained at and of course the cost of the engine.

Looks nice and the weight isn't too bad if that's with accessories.

rmartingt 07-24-2020 12:45 PM

I don't think it's exactly the same engine but you might find these threads of interest...

https://vansairforce.com/community/s...d.php?t=148800
https://vansairforce.com/community/s...d.php?t=172550

gdrudolph 07-24-2020 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rv6ejguy (Post 1448988)
Would be interesting to know at what hp the 11.7 gph FF figure is obtained at and of course the cost of the engine.

Looks nice and the weight isn't too bad if that's with accessories.

unfortunately, still needs accessories ... so ... more weight but I don't know how much...

Flandy10 07-24-2020 05:34 PM

CD-230/265
 
This is/will be the engine I have. It is also an older spec sheet.

I know more than I'm allowed to say about it, but I do love it. I don't know/can't say when it will be ready for delivery. Vans knows about this project but they are keeping their interest level to themselves as they have not spoken to me about it... EVER.

The quoted FF is about 225HP. The engine can cruise at 90%power all day long. The weight is for the engine only- but that does include the primary exhaust system.

gdrudolph 07-24-2020 06:34 PM

Oh man... THANKS SO MUCH!!! There is hope :) I have not even started... YET haha. So I'm a good 3 -5 years out. It is GREAT because Vans just announced 'final size holes' so no "rinse and repeat 3x" as Jason says on his youtube channel haha. This announcement has made me even more eager to start. In any event, I'll keep an eye on your build blog if you have one... and mums the word :)

sailvi767 07-25-2020 05:54 AM

It looks like a great option but it is heavy. I also wonder about pricing. Past attempts at jet A piston engines have had eye watering prices.

lr172 07-25-2020 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flandy10 (Post 1449065)
The quoted FF is about 225HP. The engine can cruise at 90%power all day long. The weight is for the engine only- but that does include the primary exhaust system.

That is pretty exciting if it is accurate. I cruise LOP around 11 GPH and if I believe the common stats, I am producing around 165 HP at that flow. If this diesel can produce 215-220 HP at that same flow, WOW that is an impressive boost.

Everything I have read from Ross seems to indicate similar BSFC / efficiency stats between the std Lyc's and the new diesels, so I remain somewhat skeptical.

Larry

rv6ejguy 07-25-2020 09:09 AM

11.7 gph at 225 hp is a BSFC of .34. We're seeing figures of around .38 with 9 to 1 Lycomings running LOP with EFI and EI. So that's about 10% better for the diesel in cruise. So you'd have to see what the weight and cost trade offs would be.

David Paule 07-25-2020 09:20 AM

The weight is close to what the O-470 on my C180 weighs, but the power and fuel consumption is a bit higher. It's probably a reasonable engine for an RV-10 or Rocket, but would someone please explain why this would be preferable to a Lycoming IO-540 that you can buy today and which has known service requirements and reliability and for which the aircraft are designed?

I just don't see any advantage to this thing. Anyone?

Dave


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