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TJTechArt
07-07-2009, 07:16 PM
Tom, not sure if this has already been asked...but I dont suppose you will be at OSH offering these will you?
Hi Ron,
Tom will be at OSH, but we won't be sending any inventory there. The giclee prints are printed, signed and numbered one at a time as they are ordered. And they are shipped in heavy shipping tubes to protect them. If we are not sold out of the 100 limited editions by then, Tom will take orders there.
Nina (for Tom)
TJTechArt
07-07-2009, 07:43 PM
The -8 was a slider, so why not -7 as tip-up this time? :D You may have collected the answers from the thread already showing that slider version is more preferred... however as it's such a minor detail (in one way), and I understood these are computer made eventually, so would it be too hard to make two versions?
Hi Pirka,
The model with the most orders will be the first to be created. Right now we have people who have expressed interest in all versions - RV-7, 7A tip up and sliders. If people want to place orders for a limited edition giclee print of any of these models, they should send their order via email to us directly at TJtechArt@comcast.net. We'll reserve a limited edition number for the model they request. We won't actually bill anyone until (unless) a project has enough orders and is scheduled.
The next cutaway coming up soon is the RV8-A. We're taking orders for those now. However, at least for now, we are only offering giclee prints at $200 plus S/H - we haven't had enough interest in the standard print orders to cover the printing.
Nina (for Tom)
TJTechArt
07-11-2009, 01:02 PM
Does anyone out there have a nice photo of an MT 3-blade prop with the spinner off from about a 20 degree angle (like the cutaway view)? I like the looks of the MT prop and am thinking of putting one on the next cutaway.
Thanks, Tom
Mike S
07-14-2009, 02:56 PM
Love the pitot cover:D
Mike S
07-14-2009, 03:13 PM
There's another creature in the illustration and it was put there just for fun. It's fairly small.
Tom
Boy, you make it hard on these old eyes, especially working just from the image on the comp.
Luckily I have the assistance of a sharp eyed young lad to help.
Rubber duck floating in the fuel tank???
TJTechArt
07-14-2009, 03:57 PM
Boy, you make it hard on these old eyes, especially working just from the image on the comp.
Luckily I have the assistance of a sharp eyed young lad to help.
Rubber duck floating in the fuel tank???
Yep - good eye spotting the rubber ducky. TJ
Mike S
07-14-2009, 04:19 PM
Yep - good eye spotting the rubber ducky. TJ
Does that mean I get a prize???
Free print would be nice:D
TJTechArt
07-22-2009, 07:10 PM
Hi everyone,
I'm finishing up the RV-8A cutaway and will post a teaser before Oshkosh, which means I'll be starting the -7 So...Who out there has the coolest RV-7
and will be at Oshkosh? We still don't have enough orders for the -7's to start a project but I will be doing some advance research. I'll be there all week and will be gathering reference photos. Look forward to seeing everyone there!
TJ
Guy Prevost
07-22-2009, 07:19 PM
Looking forward to seeing the 8A Tom! Are you just roaming Oshkosh or will you have a booth?
Ted RV8
07-22-2009, 07:24 PM
Tom,
Have you started shipping the 8 Giclee's yet?
Rick6a
07-22-2009, 08:12 PM
Oh Yeah. Mine arrived today. These photos cannot possibly capture the clarity and attention to detail displayed in Tom's stunning work.
http://i29.tinypic.com/9ifwg6.jpg
Veetail88
07-22-2009, 09:26 PM
My print arrived today too! GREAT WORK TOM!!!:D:D
The detail and clarity is awesome!
Took it over to get it framed and was blown away by the cost!
Michael's craft stores has a sale on framing, 60% off starting this Sunday and running a week. I'll be at OSH during the sale, but for that kind of savings I'll trouble my sister in law to take the print over there then.
Even at the sale price though, a nice frame with double matt and good glass still makes a pretty expensive display unit.
The art excellence, print quality and limited edition of the print is worth a top shelf framing though.
It's not like the print will ever decrease in value!
mculver
07-22-2009, 09:31 PM
Bet a little Google time looking for "picture framing online" or something like that will lower your cost :)
TJTechArt
07-23-2009, 09:22 AM
We found Michaels to be really expensive - even their so-called sales. If you have a Beards Frame Shop or other self-frame shop around try them. They are twice as fast, half as expensive and just as good. We never do the self-frame - they do it for you much cheaper than elsewhere.
Tom/Nina
TJTechArt
07-23-2009, 09:30 AM
Tom,
Have you started shipping the 8 Giclee's yet?
We have shipped 29. We are picking up another batch from the printer and shipping on Monday. We are shipping in the order we receive final payment. Yours is next up. Because they are so time-consuming to print, our printer can only produce about 25 - 30 per week.
Nina/Tom
TJTechArt
07-23-2009, 09:37 AM
Looking forward to seeing the 8A Tom! Are you just roaming Oshkosh or will you have a booth?
I'll be roaming and spend a lot of time under the tent next to the aerobatic center by the Pitts Model 12s.
Tom
Rick6a
07-23-2009, 10:16 AM
We found Michaels to be really expensive - even their so-called sales.......I know that to be true and the Michael stores in our area seems to frequently run some kind of frame sale. Because I've had occasion to frame several art prints lately, I've learned to spurn Michaels and have been buying frames on-line. American Frames is one I used most recently. Fast service and competitive pricing. Some on-line frame stores, like American Frames allow you to download an image of your artwork and then you can try out a wide variety of frames and mats and glass with your work of art. Another nice feature on some of these sites is the estimated cost of your frame is automatically adjusted with each option you add or change. Do a Google search. Lots better options out there even with added shipping costs than a locally bought Michaels custom picture frame.
Something else you may want to consider. A lot of artwork requires custom framing made to a specific, often unique size. That can easily add to its cost. The RV-8 cutaway drawing is very conveniently sized at 24" X 36." Premade picture frames of that standard dimension are widely available from a variety of retail sources. I happened to put my cutaway print into a pre-built frame I already had to protect and quickly frame the drawing so I could better admire Tom's stunning art craft.
panhandler1956
07-23-2009, 11:43 AM
Mine is framed and on my office wall - and Rick is right, it is stunning!
Thanks Tom!!!!
TJTechArt
07-23-2009, 11:48 AM
We just received notice that one of the prints ended up sitting in the rain for about 4 hours before it's new owner got home. He suggested that we look at shippers other than the US post office. We researched and found that the cheapest alternative is FedEx, but we would need to raise the shipping and handling charge in the US to $29, which we don't really want to do.
So for future shipments, prints will be wrapped in plastic inside the tube, so if the tube get's wet, the print should be protected.
If anyone has suggestions or issues with the shipping, please send us an email at tjtechart@comcast.net and let us know.
Nina/Tom
RVbySDI
07-23-2009, 12:51 PM
Tom,
I am envious of the -8 drivers who are getting their prints. When will you be doing a 9A print? I sent an email last week concerning getting my name on the # print list for the 9A but I am really jealous of these guys who are receiving their prints now.
Any news on when you will be doing other models?
rv8ch
07-23-2009, 01:42 PM
I am envious of the -8 drivers who are getting their prints. When will you be doing a 9A print? ...Simple solution, just start building an 8! :D That's what Rick did! ;)
Mine came on tuesday. Excellent is all I can say !!!
Well done Tom.
Ed
vmirv8bldr
07-23-2009, 02:33 PM
Got mine today, #22.....stunning.
#4 arrived yesterday. The mailman placed it beside the front door under the covered porch. Looks great! After some of you get yours framed, how 'bout posting a pic so I can get some ideas on framing. Thanks!
mannanj
07-23-2009, 07:47 PM
Mine arrived today and there were Thunderstorms in the area. I knew the time the postlady usually comes by, so I came back home to rescue it from possible destruction.
Btw, It's awsome! Thanks:D
xavierm
07-23-2009, 08:10 PM
USPS pushed in the end of the tube, luckily it didn't reach the poster and I didn't have to worry about rain in this hot socal weather...
Can't wait to get it framed.
TJTechArt
07-23-2009, 09:26 PM
Tom,
I am envious of the -8 drivers who are getting their prints. When will you be doing a 9A print? I sent an email last week concerning getting my name on the # print list for the 9A but I am really jealous of these guys who are receiving their prints now.
Any news on when you will be doing other models?
We are recording orders for all models. It looks like an RV-7 will be next because there are more orders for the 7's at this point. But we still don't have enough of any one Rv-7 model to commission a project. The 9's only have 14 orders so far - with most for the 9A. Although we're taking orders - we aren't invoicing anyone for retainers until a project actually has enough orders to schedule the project. We need at least 50 orders for a model to schedule it.
Nina
RV8iator
07-23-2009, 10:05 PM
I got my signed print #8 today and it is stunning.
Thanks Tom for the great work..
Camillo
07-24-2009, 06:38 AM
Hi. Were non-US shipping performed?
I live in Italy and my giclee has not come, yet.
Thanks.
Camillo
JDAviator
07-24-2009, 07:04 AM
Mine arrived safe and sound while I was gone this week. #35 looks great! (probably like the other 99 :D ) Thanks Tom!
RVbySDI
07-24-2009, 08:29 AM
OK, all you 7 and 9 drivers. Lets get busy with this! I really want one of these for my 9 so if enough of you guys will get on the "request band wagon" we can persuade Tom to start on our models. I know we can do it!We are recording orders for all models. It looks like an RV-7 will be next because there are more orders for the 7's at this point. But we still don't have enough of any one Rv-7 model to commission a project. The 9's only have 14 orders so far - with most for the 9A. Although we're taking orders - we aren't invoicing anyone for retainers until a project actually has enough orders to schedule the project. We need at least 50 orders for a model to schedule it.
Nina
Rick6a
07-24-2009, 03:57 PM
....I am envious of the -8 drivers who are getting their prints. When will you be doing a 9A print? Any news on when you will be doing other models?
Simple solution, just start building an 8! :D That's what Rick did! ;)If I didn't think the RV-8 is hands down the sexiest looking RV design out there, I wouldn't have built one.:D
http://i30.tinypic.com/szeqgo.jpg
OK, all you 7 and 9 drivers. Lets get busy with this! I really want one of these for my 9 so if enough of you guys will get on the "request band wagon" we can persuade Tom to start on our models. I know we can do it!
I am in. I didn't know that Tom is planning other models and I previously chose RV7A. I guess I have to drop that order and get on the "other wagon". I want the 9A but if there is not enough demand I go with 7A.
TJTechArt
07-26-2009, 04:59 PM
Hi Group,
I'm adding the finishing touches to the RV-8A cutaway and thought you'd like to have a peak.
Tomhttp://img17.imageshack.us/img17/4452/rv8aweb.jpg
Guy Prevost
08-07-2009, 06:28 PM
Looks great Tom!
Veetail88
08-08-2009, 03:13 PM
Here's what #1 looks like in a way too expensive frame job.
Sorry about the angle. The flash was bouncing back too much.
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/460/img2958f.jpg (http://img20.imageshack.us/i/img2958f.jpg/)
lorne green
08-08-2009, 06:52 PM
Tom your work is.........well, Art!!
I just made this image as my "desktop page".
Rick, you're right, the 8 is the sexiest RV. Too bad my wife likes to sit beside me when we fly!
So a 7A will have to do:)
mcencula
08-08-2009, 07:19 PM
I put my request in for an RV-7A tip-up last month. Surely there are enough -7A tip-ups out there to commission his work. Jump on the band wagon! :D
TJTechArt
08-15-2009, 01:11 PM
Hi Group,
I just finished the 2nd custom RV-8 cutaway of Joel McMillian's cool FW-190 replica scheme for N880JM.http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/6913/rv8n880jmcopy2.jpg
Find out more about having a custom cutaway done of your plane by contacting Tom by e-mail at: tjtechart@comcast.net.
Cheers, Tom
rv8eh
08-17-2009, 06:17 PM
and a couple of regular prints.
We just stared in silence. Wow.
The website previews do faint justice, I think.
Did I say Wow? Wow.
SpacemanSpiff
08-18-2009, 09:15 AM
[I]*a giclee is digital print that is the highest quality reproduction available. These are fine-art prints produced on museum quality acid-free paper using non-fading special inks. When framed properly, these prints have non-fading life expectancy of 100 years. These must be printed one at a time at ultra-high resolution for maximum detail. They take about 1 hour each to print and are dazzling.
I have a giclee print and would like to display it in my garage where I will be working on my 8. Is this a bad idea, or are you saying the giclee would hold up against the elements my garage is exposed to? When you say 'framed properly' above, what specifically does that mean?
Thanks,
Tom
TJTechArt
08-18-2009, 09:24 AM
I have a giclee print and would like to display it in my garage where I will be working on my 8. Is this a bad idea, or are you saying the giclee would hold up against the elements my garage is exposed to? When you say 'framed properly' above, what specifically does that mean?
Thanks,
Tom
Your garage would be fine - I assume it has a roof? If I were building an RV, that is where I would hang the print.
Tom
TJTechArt
08-19-2009, 02:44 PM
Another custom cutaway of the RV-8 that belongs to Dan Miller; N3TU. http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/8504/rv8n3tuweb.jpg
If you are interested in a custom cutaway of your RV-8, e-mail Tom @ tjtechart@comcast.net and attach photos of your plane. Tom will review the request and provide a quote. Custom cutaways start at $500.00.
TJTechArt
08-25-2009, 01:09 PM
I have started the RV-7 cutaway project. The photo reference used is of a friend's RV-7 Tip-up. I have thoroughly studied the plans for all of the -7's and now as I plot out components, all 4 versions of the model will be done at the same time. The basic skeleton will be done today and then the detail work will begin. Progress updates will be posted periodically.
Tom
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/7504/rv7layoutmap.jpg
Brantel
08-25-2009, 01:47 PM
Yeah!!!!!! :D :D :D
lorne green
08-25-2009, 07:35 PM
Stop it!!
You're teasing us!!
7A tip up!
You ROCK!
I can't wait!
RV7Ron
08-26-2009, 07:33 AM
-7 next....S-W-E-E-T!!
BillC
08-26-2009, 08:24 AM
Tom,
Please add me to the list for a limited-edition giclee print of the 9A. Also sent private email direct to you as instructed.
Thanks
Bill
Ken Martin
08-26-2009, 09:43 AM
Please put me on the list for a -7 tip up. (24" x 36")
Thanks,
Ken
TJTechArt
08-27-2009, 04:55 PM
Tom,
Please add me to the list for a limited-edition giclee print of the 9A. Also sent private email direct to you as instructed.
Thanks
Bill
Hi Bill. Just happened to see this on the forum. Thanks for your interest. However, we did not receive your email. Please try again to TJtechart@comcast.net. The reason we need you to email us is so we can capture your email for billing through PayPal when the project is 'a go' . Also - please indicate whether you want the tip-up or slider. I acknowledge every email, so you will know when I get it. I went ahead and reserved a limited edition for you. If you want a specific number print in the 1-100 series, please indicate 3-4 numbers in order of preference and we will attempt to accommodate. Thanks again.
Nina
TJTechart, Inc.
503-954-3732
TJTechArt
09-02-2009, 07:26 PM
Hi Group,
I'm deep into the -7 cutaway now and would like to get you all involved. I went to Van's homecoming last weekend and checked out the 7's that were there. The cool thing about these planes is that no two are alike. Since the subject of the cutaway is going to be a generic aircraft, I'm open to suggestions re. avionics, interior parts being primed vs. bear, prop and engine selection and so on. I want the cutaway to be a good example of a typical nicely done plane. Feel free to chime in and voice your opinion on any of these subjects.
Thanks,
TJ
lorne green
09-02-2009, 08:08 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing a full blown Classic Areo Design leather interior
(light grey on darker grey) shown on the far interior wall/rear bulkhead.
With perhaps the passanger seat in Gray leather. Oh and an arching red swoop
at the wing tips to detract from the box look of the RV wing.:) (you asked!)
Ken Martin
09-03-2009, 07:33 AM
I'd like to see and IO-360 Constant Speed configuration with leather interior, general glass display and a paint scheme that is NOT too busy.
Thanks for soliciting our input.
Regards,
Ken
mburch
09-03-2009, 07:40 AM
I'd like to see and IO-360 Constant Speed configuration with leather interior, general glass display and a paint scheme that is NOT too busy.
Agreed on all counts!
mcb
RV7Ron
09-03-2009, 09:32 AM
...since I just sent in my deposit for the -7 I feel I can contribute. :) I echo the Classis Aero interior comment. Of course I would like to see a three blade composite prop (I prefer MT)...just cuz it looks cool! I am priming interior structural parts so I would request that as well, but not as big a deal to me either way on that one. Cant wait to see it!
Jon Clements
09-03-2009, 09:44 AM
Hi Group,
I'm deep into the -7 cutaway now and would like to get you all involved. I went to Van's homecoming last weekend and checked out the 7's that were there. The cool thing about these planes is that no two are alike. Since the subject of the cutaway is going to be a generic aircraft, I'm open to suggestions re. avionics, interior parts being primed vs. bear, prop and engine selection and so on. I want the cutaway to be a good example of a typical nicely done plane. Feel free to chime in and voice your opinion on any of these subjects.
Thanks,
TJ
Hi Tom -
Thought the RV-7 Tip-up might be a way off......glad to hear its next in line!!!
I have sent you a direct email. It would be great to see it finished in a simple paint scheme - perhaps metallic grey/silver with black gear legs/spats and black checkerboard on the rudder - single colour schemes seem to do the design of the aircraft the most justice...just my 2c worth.
Cheers - looking forward to seeing the outcome!
JON.
cjensen
09-03-2009, 10:39 AM
Well...you're gonna get a ton of different opinions, but like Ron said, since my deposit is in as well, I'll throw my idea in to the ring...
I don't care about paint since it's a cutaway, but I like tan interiors and a three blade fixed pitch prop...;)
walter
09-03-2009, 10:50 AM
Nuther vote for Tan classic aero interior and two blade constant speed prop on a 7A tipup :)
RV7AV8R
09-03-2009, 11:02 AM
Probably the most common configuration is the 0-360 or IO-360 with CS Hartzel 2 blade blended airfoil on the RV7.
TJTechArt
09-03-2009, 11:19 AM
Thanks to everyone for the ideas so far. I appreciate it. I'm filing them away in my noggin and when all comments are evaluated, the result should be a very tasty illustration.
Tom
holbrog
09-03-2009, 11:27 AM
A 24x36 9A for me.
The pics of the 8s look amazing...
TJTechArt
09-03-2009, 07:57 PM
Wow! You guys have opened up a whole new avenue. I've been checking out the products of Classic Aero Design. Very sexy stuff indeed. TJ
lorne green
09-03-2009, 09:02 PM
You bet!
Oh Ya. A checkered flag rudder....red/white is my colour of choice
Steve N.
09-04-2009, 07:54 AM
I agree that the IO-360 with the Hartzel blended airfoil prop is probably the most common. I also go for the Classic Aero interior in light gray with blue trim. I like the swoops on the wingtips and tail to eliminate the boxy look.
TJTechArt
09-30-2009, 08:53 PM
I need some help from the -7 experts. I'm drawing the control system for the cutaway and noticed that the control stick is pushed forward of vertical on Van's drawing #32. This drawing shows the elevator in the neutral position. Is the stick really that way?
Thanks, TJ
TJTechArt
09-30-2009, 11:15 PM
Vans drawings are very accurate.
OK - I will draw it as per the drawing.
Thanks
Simon Hitchen
10-01-2009, 04:11 AM
Could I be put on the list for a 7 Tip up please. Tan interior seems to be popular, my choice too.
Many thanx,
24*36
Simon
Jim P
10-01-2009, 11:49 AM
I'd be in for -7 Tipper/ CS as well.
For external color on the mass-print, how about either the generic Van's scheme or bare aluminum?
Jim
esjacoby77
10-01-2009, 11:53 AM
Please add me to the list for a 7A tip-up.
snoop9erdog
10-01-2009, 01:33 PM
Tom,
Please sign me up for a 24X36 giclee of a 9A.
Thanks,
Ed Avila
TJTechArt
10-05-2009, 09:25 AM
Hi Group,
The cutaway is coming right along and is a joy to work on. The previously announced completion date of mid-October needs to be moved out to mid-November. I am trying to make this cutaway different than the RV-8 for interest and that decision has affected the schedule. I'm sure all of you builders can relate.
By popular demand, the -7 and -7A will be sporting a Classic Aero interior. Luke Doughton has kindly offered assistance on technical specs of their fine products so that the drawing will be accurate.
Also, looks like a Hartzell prop will be installed on both models.
The paint scheme has not been determined yet but will most likely be something relatively simple yet elegant and tasty.
As always, feel free to post a note with any thoughts about the project.
Cheers,
Tom
rwhittier
10-05-2009, 10:20 AM
Interested in a 7A tip up Giclee. Whenever you get to that point. Loved the first one you did. Thanks.
Hi Group,
By popular demand, the -7 and -7A will be sporting a Classic Aero interior. Luke Doughton has kindly offered assistance on technical specs of their fine products so that the drawing will be accurate.
Tom
Ken Martin
10-18-2009, 02:10 PM
Any status update on the -7 tip-up cutaway print??
Thanks,
Ken
Doug Rohrer
10-18-2009, 02:44 PM
Sign me up for the $65.00 drawing of the RV-7A slider. I sent a note to the business email address given earlier in this thread.
Doug
TJTechArt
10-18-2009, 06:35 PM
Any status update on the -7 tip-up cutaway print??
Thanks,
Ken
The line drawing of the -7 tip-up will be done in 8 days. I'll post a peak at that time. Then it's full-throttle to do the painting. The finish date is November 15th. Everything is progressing well. I've selected a paint scheme and avionics. Interior will be a tan Classic Aero design. Hartzell prop.
Today I'm drawing the high-pressure fuel system. It's a bear getting all those fuel lines and fittings in the right place and making them look good.
Tom Out
...Today I'm drawing the high-pressure fuel system. It's a bear getting all those fuel lines and fittings in the right place and making them look good. ...
I believe it. Sounds like the high pressure fuel plumbing is as much of a pain to draw as it is to make :)
Looking forward to seeing the finished product!
-Roee
kevinh
10-18-2009, 08:47 PM
Yay! I'm definitely in for a 7A slider when you get that far...
john stahr
10-20-2009, 08:07 PM
YES! Tom Johnson, one of the best cutaway illustrators on the planet has done the RV-8, he has also done some terrific other planes such as the GeeBee . The over the top cool thing is, Tom will photoshop your existing paint scheme into the file, and print off high end digital prints of YOUR plane!
Remember, when customized, it becomes an original piece of digital art, so it does not come for an airshow poster price.....check out Tom's site....www.tjtechart.com......contact himat tjtechart@comcast.net.....
TJTechArt
10-21-2009, 12:17 PM
YES! Tom Johnson, one of the best cutaway illustrators on the planet has done the RV-8, he has also done some terrific other planes such as the GeeBee . The over the top cool thing is, Tom will photoshop your existing paint scheme into the file, and print off high end digital prints of YOUR plane!
Remember, when customized, it becomes an original piece of digital art, so it does not come for an airshow poster price.....check out Tom's site....www.tjtechart.com......contact himat tjtechart@comcast.net.....
Thanks for the kind words, John. (Your check is in the mail).
Please note that my web site, listed as www.tjtechart.com, is still under construction, to be launched fairly soon. Contact can be made through my e-mial which is: tjtechart@comcast.net.
BTW, Today I'm drawing the Aero Classic Sportsman seats in the _7 cutaway.
Ken Martin
11-09-2009, 07:59 AM
How is everything coming along on the -7 drawing? Do you have a projected completion date?
Thanks,
Ken
TJTechArt
11-10-2009, 09:44 AM
How is everything coming along on the -7 drawing? Do you have a projected completion date?
Thanks,
Ken
I'm still in the "drawing" (line-art stage). The drawing will be done in two days then it's on to the painting. The painting will take 250 hours but I'm in 'hammer-mode', balls-to-wall so it will be done at the end of this month.
Tom
TJTechArt
11-23-2009, 10:33 AM
Hi Group,
Here's a peak at the line art of the RV-7 Tip-up cutaway.
Enjoy.
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/1849/screenhunter01nov230923.jpg
bullojm1
11-23-2009, 10:41 AM
Tom-
Looks great! Two suggestions -- remove the ELT and VOR whisker antenna's. Most RV'ers that I know hide these two antennas. IMHO, I think it would make it look better.
glenn654
11-23-2009, 08:27 PM
Is a drawing of the -4 going to be done?
I'd like to have one of those.
P.S. Appologies if this has already been asked, I haven't read all 34 pages of this thread.
Glenn Wilkinson
TJTechArt
11-23-2009, 10:11 PM
I will do an RV-4 cutaway if there is enough interest. So far, only a few -4 enthusiasts have expressed interest.
Tom
RV-3Bravo
11-23-2009, 10:20 PM
How about the ground breaking design of the RV-3. I'd be all over that!
tx_jayhawk
11-24-2009, 11:20 AM
Tom,
For a wife that is not VAF-saavy and wants to buy her wonderful hubby (me) one of those nice cutaway drawings, how might she get ahold of you? Can you PM a phone or direct email?
Thanks,
Scott
RV7Ron
11-24-2009, 12:56 PM
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=45626&highlight=cutaway
Scott, Doug posted this for info...click on the pdf, should have everything you (or your wife) need to know. :)
Tandem46
11-24-2009, 02:53 PM
Two suggestions -- remove the ELT and VOR whisker antenna's. Most RV'ers that I know hide these two antennas.
I agree. Most don't have the VOR antenna's and most hide the ELT antenna. They look more distracting than anything. Just my two cents!
81270
11-24-2009, 03:04 PM
...talking of which, have you seen the Clear-Nav Transparent GPS antenna. It's the latest ad amongst the aviation stuff on the left side of this forum
RV7Ron
12-08-2009, 01:25 PM
Hey Tom, since I think you're finished with the RV7 and I'm about to mail your payment. Got a 'teaser' shot for us to gander at?? :)
TJTechArt
12-16-2009, 04:05 PM
The RV-7 Tip-Up Cutaway is finished. Thanks to all of you who have ordered prints and have been patiently waiting. The prints went to production today and will be available shortly. For ordering information, send a request to: tjtechart@comcast.net.
The RV-7A Tip-Up will be produced next followed immediately by the -7 and -7A slider versions.
Tom
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/7858/rv7finalwebcopy.jpg
Brantel
12-16-2009, 04:40 PM
Wow! Just wow!
Looks amazing! I better go buy a frame!
Ironflight
12-16-2009, 05:03 PM
Wait a minute, don't the -7 folks get a rubber chicken?!;)
Mike S
12-16-2009, 05:27 PM
Wait a minute, don't the -7 folks get a rubber chicken?!;)
You read my mind........
First thing I looked for.
No duckie either???
:(
RV7Ron
12-16-2009, 06:48 PM
she sure is puuuuurdy! Nice job Tom, cant wait til mine arrives
cjensen
12-16-2009, 08:49 PM
she sure is puuuuurdy! Nice job Tom, cant wait til mine arrives
You said it Ron!! I can't wait either!!!
schristo@mac.com
12-17-2009, 07:37 AM
hmmmm.... hope it grows on me since i have one on order... not a fan of the color and the canopy curve looks a bit odd. perhaps it is the heavy use of shading to mark the edge but the arc looks off somehow... a bit too bulbous making the plane look more squat than it is in real life.
RV7Ron
12-17-2009, 07:46 AM
hmmmm.... hope it grows on me since i have one on order... not a fan of the color and the canopy curve looks a bit odd. perhaps it is the heavy use of shading to mark the edge but the arc looks off somehow... a bit too bulbous making the plane look more squat than it is in real life.
I gotta admit, after looking at it for awhile, the canopy does look off to me as well... looks 'short'. It seems it should extend toward the front a little further?
Brantel
12-17-2009, 07:48 AM
For another $300 Tom will knock you out whatever color you would like.
I agree there is something not exactly right about the light reflection on the canopy but most people would have no idea.
The rest looks amazing.
hmmmm.... hope it grows on me since i have one on order... not a fan of the color and the canopy curve looks a bit odd. perhaps it is the heavy use of shading to mark the edge but the arc looks off somehow... a bit too bulbous making the plane look more squat than it is in real life.
Brantel
12-17-2009, 07:55 AM
I gotta admit, after looking at it for awhile, the canopy does look off to me as well... looks 'short'. It seems it should extend toward the front a little further?
Nope, it is just aft of the subpanel right where it should be. I think what is throwing everyone is the light reflection....3
This is almost the same angle shot:
http://www.vansaircraft.com/images/rv-7_g.jpg
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/7858/rv7finalwebcopy.jpg
I do notice that their is more slope on the real one in the front than on the drawing.
lorne green
12-17-2009, 11:04 AM
I agree about your coments on the canopy.
Tom will fix the canopy on the "A" model. ;):D
Custom pitot cover not required!
Tom, it's looking good.
TJTechArt
12-17-2009, 01:07 PM
You guys are right. When working on these illustrations, sometimes I can get so deep into the details that I forget to step back and look at the big picture.
I called in a May-day to the printer to stop the press, then analyzed the problem and fixed it. Thanks for your feedback.
How does this look?
Tom
http://http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/5682/rv7canopyrev.jpg
TJTechArt
12-17-2009, 01:13 PM
Lets try this again.
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/5682/rv7canopyrev.jpg
Brantel
12-17-2009, 01:31 PM
Much better Tom! Thanks for fixing it!!!!!! Much less bubble like...
RV7Ron
12-17-2009, 02:07 PM
You guys are right. When working on these illustrations, sometimes I can get so deep into the details that I forget to step back and look at the big picture.
I called in a May-day to the printer to stop the press, then analyzed the problem and fixed it. Thanks for your feedback.
How does this look?
Tom
http://http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/5682/rv7canopyrev.jpg
Thanks Tom, I do like this one better!
Jon Clements
12-18-2009, 03:56 AM
Lets try this again.
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/5682/rv7canopyrev.jpg
Great work Tom - congrats.
Can't wait to receive my print....will proudly hang it in a public place!!!!
Cheers/thx
JON
TJTechArt
12-18-2009, 02:05 PM
As I started converting the -7 to a -7A, I noticed a pretty cool image on my monitor. It's an RV-7 with retractable gear! Thought you'd like to see it. It really gives a whole new personality to the plane.
Cheers, Tom
http://yfrog.com/j2rv7retractgearj
Brantel
12-18-2009, 02:08 PM
Wrong link Tom.....
http://img686.yfrog.com/img686/7900/rv7retractgear.jpg
TJTechArt
12-18-2009, 02:10 PM
Thanks for the fix. TJ
Dean Pichon
12-18-2009, 07:51 PM
Can you give me an update on when you can start a -4 for me?
Regards,
Dean Pichon
Bolton, MA
jflyboy
12-18-2009, 08:05 PM
I'd love to have a cut-away RV-4, I know a few other guys who aren't on VAF who might like to have one also. The 4 has my vote:D
IowaRV9Dreamer
12-18-2009, 10:14 PM
I'm hoping someday you'll convert the 7A to a 9A!
TJTechArt
12-21-2009, 03:03 PM
Hi - Nina here - answering inquiries about RV-4 and RV9A cutaway illustration projects on behalf of Tom. Tom would love to do the RV-4 and RV-9 when we get enough orders to commission the project. So far we've only had a few orders on the RV-4 and about 14 on the RV-9. We need 60, so we have a ways to go. If you know people who would be willing to commit to an order, we are keeping track. We won't bill anyone unless we get enough to actually schedule the project. Just send an email to TJTechart@comcast.net. Tell us which model and canopy style you are interested in. We're also keeping track of requests for RV-6 and RV-10. If you don't get an acknowledgment from us, then we didn't get your email. We are having some issues with Comcast. So give us a call at 503-954-3732. Merry Christmas. Nina
Interested in $65 RV-9A. E-mail sent.
Thanks,
Brantel
12-21-2009, 03:48 PM
Got my 7 limited issue today. I have not studied it to hard yet but on first glance, it is awesome!
Now I have to go buy a frame....
Oh, wait a minute, I need to finish my plane!!!!
TJTechArt
12-29-2009, 12:09 PM
Hi Group,
The RV-7A Tip-up cutaway has officially been released. If you placed an order, you will receive a PayPal invoice shortly. If you think you placed and order and have not received an acknowledgement from us, we don't have your order:( If you would like to order, send an email to us at TJTechArt@comcast.net or call 503-954-3732. Looking forward to doing the RV-7 and -7A slider canopy illustrations next. . .
Cheers, Tom
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/9809/rv7aweb.jpg
TJTechArt
12-31-2009, 02:02 PM
Shipping Status Update . . . For those of you who ordered prints, we plan to start shipping January 5 - assuming stars align between our printers and shipping tube supplier. As usual, we'll send an email when your print ships. Thank you for your support. Have a Happy New Year.
Nina
BillC
12-31-2009, 08:23 PM
Nina,
With most of the great work on the 7 series coming to an end, where are we with commitments for the 9's? Last I heard was that the number was well below the minimum required.
Thanks
Bill
TJTechArt
01-01-2010, 06:38 PM
Nina,
With most of the great work on the 7 series coming to an end, where are we with commitments for the 9's? Last I heard was that the number was well below the minimum required.
Thanks
Bill
Hi Bill - We still need about 35-40 orders to schedule a project. Nina
RickWoodall
01-01-2010, 06:56 PM
I will order 2x 9a posters. :-) Get em done. :)
LuisR
01-01-2010, 07:07 PM
If you have one for the -10, I'll take it....
IowaRV9Dreamer
01-01-2010, 07:25 PM
Beautiful print - I hope we get enough 9A orders (I should be on the list for a 9A slider).
I see all the spars (2 wing, horizontal & vertical stab) are gold anodized - is that the way the kits ship now? In my kit it is only the main wing spar.
RV-3Bravo
01-01-2010, 07:56 PM
I'd love to see a RV-3B drawing!
rleffler
01-02-2010, 04:35 AM
If you have one for the -10, I'll take it....
I am interested in a RV-10 as well.
plehrke
01-02-2010, 04:42 AM
Is there any plan to do an RV-6A (slider)? Put me on the list for one.
TJTechArt
01-02-2010, 02:10 PM
Beautiful print - I hope we get enough 9A orders (I should be on the list for a 9A slider).
I see all the spars (2 wing, horizontal & vertical stab) are gold anodized - is that the way the kits ship now? In my kit it is only the main wing spar.
The only reason all the spars are gold anodized in the illustration is purely for aesthetics. I think that feature spices up the painting. I do not know how those parts come from Van's currently.
Tom
chaskuss
01-02-2010, 07:44 PM
Hi Pirka,
snipped
The next cutaway coming up soon is the RV8-A. We're taking orders for those now. However, at least for now, we are only offering giclee prints at $200 plus S/H - we haven't had enough interest in the standard print orders to cover the printing.
Nina (for Tom)
Nina,
I had originally committed to a large standard print of the RV8. I'm actually building an RV-8A. Since only the giclee versions will be produced, put me down for an RV-8A. Heck, if I'm going to spend that kind of money [I'm a blue collar guy], it has to be of the model I'm building.
Charlie Kuss
Dangerous Dan
01-02-2010, 10:42 PM
One of the differances between bule collar & white collar workers is that the blue collar person washes hands before using the latrine and the white collar person after.. :D
I got the black and white -8 cut away and love it. If a -4 comes available, I would like it a bit more ;)
TJTechArt
01-04-2010, 12:02 PM
Hi Group,
Here's a peek at the -7 slider version. Working on the upper forward fuselage differences between the tip-up and slider today. It really feels like I'm building the real thing.
Tom
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/600/rv7slider.jpg
Flyguytki
01-04-2010, 12:32 PM
Cant wait to see the color scheme of the slider!!
chipf
01-04-2010, 12:48 PM
Hi Bill - We still need about 35-40 orders to schedule a project. Nina
Add another to the list for a 9A (sliding canopy). I'll spring for the giclee print.
TJTechArt
01-04-2010, 01:28 PM
Cant wait to see the color scheme of the slider!!
I have one scheme for one of the sliders pretty much nailed down but the other is TBD. Suggestions are welcome.
Tom
Flyguytki
01-04-2010, 02:32 PM
Black and Blue!!!
Possibly Something similar to this??
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll109/flyguytki/planecolors.jpg
schristo@mac.com
01-09-2010, 08:56 PM
sunshine and rainbow machine -off-
i received my print... it is okay as a poster but is not the sort of 'special' print that i had expected.
the paper is thin and the colors are not particularly vibrant. i have one other giclee print to compare
it to and that other print is simply stunning; it is on much heavier paper but was more costly.
although quite sharp this one is really more accurately described as a quality poster.
being charged 32 dollars in shipping for 5.70 in postage is foul.
at this point i am feeling quite sour towards the print.
bullojm1
01-09-2010, 09:21 PM
although quite sharp this one is really more accurately described as a quality poster.
being charged 32 dollars in shipping for 5.70 in postage is foul.
at this point i am feeling quite sour towards the print.
Completely agree. I am not very impressed with my copy. It just doesn't scream RV Greatness.
cjensen
01-09-2010, 09:30 PM
I really like mine, and I'm fine with the cost of the giclee print...I do agree with the shipping charge being out of line tho (EDIT-after the explaination, I am more than happy to have covered the costs associated)...overall, I'm very pleased and impressed with Tom's work!
TJTechArt
01-10-2010, 03:09 PM
We always appreciate feedback on Tom?s cutaway illustrations. Although we like the positive comments better, it?s also valuable for us to hear when our clients have a less than satisfactory experience with Tom?s work or our business practices. So we want to respond to the two comments about shipping charges and quality of the paper.
Regarding quality of the paper. The museum quality, smooth surface, acid free paper we use for giclee prints was been carefully researched and selected to provide the best possible image. Heavier papers used on some fine art giclee prints is too texturized to provide the sharp image required for technical illustrations as finely detailed as Tom?s work. Colors are also rendered better on the semi-matte paper, which produces a more sophisticated, understated luster. The colors on the aircraft are intentionally kept slightly muted so as not to look gaudy. In this case thicker paper would produce an inferior print.
Regarding shipping and handling. In response to the complaints about our shipping and handling charges, we sat down to re-access our actual costs to make sure our charges are reasonable and fair.
The actual shipping charge, which is usually between $8.70 and $10.25 (averaging $9.50) for the US, is a fraction of our actual shipping and handling expenses. Because the RV model cutaway projects are very low volume and exclusive endeavors, we do not enjoy the efficiencies and economies associated with high volume shops. As both the open edition and giclee prints are printed one at a time, a typical batch is only 8-10 prints.
For an idea of what it is included in our shipping and handling charges, following is what it takes to process a batch of 8-10 prints.
Administrative time to respond to inquiries and answer questions, take and acknowledge orders, invoice via PayPal, log reserved numbers and respond to personal requests. Type labels and check against records. Send shipping notices and respond to requests for tracking numbers.
Two trips to the printer to proof and then pick up prints.
Packaging, including extra heavy tube, acid free tissue paper, protective plastic bag and label.
Illustrations are easily damaged, so each piece is handled with extreme care. Prints are hand signed and numbered and carefully rolled and packaged.
Trip to the post office and processing there.
As you can see, we have included our administrative expenses into the cost of shipping and handling and we are re-thinking this practice. Apparently it makes the shipping and handling seem inflated and causes customer dissatisfaction.
That said, the most logical thing is to price administrative costs into the price of the illustration and lower shipping costs to simply cover average postage and packaging. It takes approximately six months to produce a new model illustration and we realize only about 70 combined orders (all models in a series, giclee and open editions). So with the labor-intensive nature of the illustration, high cost of printing and low volume, there is no room to absorb these costs into the current price of the prints. For those who are curious, try Googling how much it costs to print a 24x36 giclee.
Once the slider versions of the RV-7?s are completed, we will re-visit our pricing and figure administrative overhead into the product price. We hope to come up with a price for future RV model illustrations that will both support the process of creating them and the dollar value our customers place on them.
We thank you for providing feedback. And a special thanks to those of you who have purchased Tom?s illustrations ? and those who have purchased multiple copies. The RV project has been a labor of love for Tom. The messages you have sent expressing the enjoyment you get from his illustrations and thanking him for taking on the RV projects are truly gratifying.
Nina
The Wizzard
01-10-2010, 03:44 PM
Count me in as well
TJTechArt
01-10-2010, 04:00 PM
Count me in as well
Count you in for what???
schristo@mac.com
01-10-2010, 07:28 PM
the quality of the giclee print and paper should be disclosed upfront... the print is really a high quality poster...
your discussion on the reasons for selecting the paper and print are okay but the detail should be disclosed since
your giclee print is inconsistent with an art quality giclee print.
the costs attributed to 'shipping' are clearly administrative direct and indirect costs that are part of doing business.
adding a hyperinflated shipping charge to a committed order amounts increasing the price without fair notice.
in the end i was charged 560% over the actual shipping cost of 5.70. not cool.
charge whatever you want for your product but shifting product costs to shipping is foul.
i want a refund.
cjensen
01-10-2010, 09:37 PM
Wow Stephen...I feel it was fully explianed (although after the fact), and find your last post inappropiate. Tom has done a wonderful job, with A LOT of time spent in development for us RV nuts with a custom print.
With the costs explained, enjoy your print man...
Brantel
01-11-2010, 07:29 AM
Trouble with dealing with the public is that you cannot please everyone no matter what you are selling. If you sent someone a 2lb solid gold turd for $1 someone would complain that it is not shiny enough.....:confused:
To say this print is not special and compare it to a poster is simply unfair.
The paper may be thin to you but to me it is thick so this comment is very subjective.
The colors are what I would expect for a technical cutaway print. I have seen dozens of these and Tom's renderings are similar to what I have seen in my life. To try to compare it to other artwork would also be unfair.
The printing is superb and very very sharp. Just what it should be for a technical print.
To compare this print to something that was more costly again is not fair.
I agree that Tom should include his shipping overhead in the product cost and not markup the shipping so much.
To be fair, everyone who ordered one of these prints had complete disclosure on what the price and shipping cost were going to be. Examples were posted along the way and pictures of prior customers and what they were receiving were being posted all along. There is no way that someone can claim they did not understand what they were purchasing.
Stephen made a post earlier that he did not like the color scheme that Tom chose to apply to the print. Tom cannot and will not ever be able to make a non-custom print meet everyone's expectations. If you want a custom color scheme, pay the custom price.
If you step back and think about this, Tom has provided some of us with the opportunity to get a very unique cutaway of the outstanding Van's series of aircraft. I know he put a massive amount of work into these prints. I also know that he most likely spent almost 1/2 of the price of these prints on services to get them printed. That being said, I doubt he is making a mint off of this project.
Could he have went with paper that cost $100 more? Could he have made the colors look like a photo rendering of a real model? Could he have spent a thousand more hours on each model adding additinal detail? Sure he could have but that would have put the cost out of reach of the everyday person that wanted something like what he actually delivered. If you want those things, call Tom as I am sure he would be more than willing to give you a quote.
Enjoy your print. I know I do and everyone that looks at it are amazed at the quality and detail.
sunshine and rainbow machine -off-
i received my print... it is okay as a poster but is not the sort of 'special' print that i had expected.
the paper is thin and the colors are not particularly vibrant. i have one other giclee print to compare
it to and that other print is simply stunning; it is on much heavier paper but was more costly.
although quite sharp this one is really more accurately described as a quality poster.
being charged 32 dollars in shipping for 5.70 in postage is foul.
at this point i am feeling quite sour towards the print.
Completely agree. I am not very impressed with my copy. It just doesn't scream RV Greatness.
the quality of the giclee print and paper should be disclosed upfront... the print is really a high quality poster...
your discussion on the reasons for selecting the paper and print are okay but the detail should be disclosed since
your giclee print is inconsistent with an art quality giclee print.
the costs attributed to 'shipping' are clearly administrative direct and indirect costs that are part of doing business.
adding a hyperinflated shipping charge to a committed order amounts increasing the price without fair notice.
in the end i was charged 560% over the actual shipping cost of 5.70. not cool.
charge whatever you want for your product but shifting product costs to shipping is foul.
i want a refund.
Wow Stephen...I feel it was fully explianed (although after the fact), and find your last post inappropiate. Tom has done a wonderful job, with A LOT of time spent in development for us RV nuts with a custom print.
With the costs explained, enjoy your print man...
cjensen
01-11-2010, 07:41 AM
<snip>To be fair, everyone who ordered one of these prints had complete disclosure on what the price and shipping cost were going to be. Examples were posted along the way and pictures of prior customers and what they were receiving were being posted all along. There is no way that someone can claim they did not understand what they were purchasing.
Very good point Brian...the shipping cost was included in the first emailed invoice, so we all knew is was going to cost $32 for S&H up front. I thought it was high, but then again, I thought the deal for a giclee print was great, so I never thought about it again until it was brought up here.
Since the explanation was posted, like I said, I am more than happy to help cover the costs associated with getting these to our door safely.
:cool::cool:
DarylT
01-11-2010, 07:56 AM
I agree with you Brian and Chad. I love the 8 and am waiting on the 7A slider now. I just saw the latest update and you know it will be awesome.
Brian I will take one of the gold turds for a buck and promise not to complain about how shiney it is. :D
JetMech72
01-11-2010, 08:24 AM
The -7 slider is still in-process, correct?
I'll take a gold turd, too. The wife has a birthday coming up...:D
RV7Ron
01-11-2010, 08:44 AM
Also count me as a happy customer. I also thought the shipping cost was high, but I was made fully aware of it up front before I placed my order and I now appreciate the explanation as to why. Nina and Tom have been VERY accomodating to me with all of my questions and a shipping mistake they made. I count their customer service as top notch. Vans does not market their product at all which kinda dissapoints me, I suppose because they dont have to and to also to keep overhead low.
But I, for one, am very proud of my project and am glad that someone out there is willing to put this kind of effort into creating a cutaway print. Until Tom agreed to do this, there was NO option for something like this. So...Thanks Tom for doing this so I can own a cutaway print of my once in a lifetime project! I totally agree with the previous post, you wont EVER make everyone happy...it's impossible. Some people really are just a buzz kill about everything. I dont mind a little constructive criticism, but this print is not 'junk' (as alluded to) by a far stretch of the imagination.
jeffmoreau
01-11-2010, 08:57 AM
I ordered and received my RV8-A print in late 2009. As a Christmas present to myself I had it framed in December. It was the main topic of conversation when many of my aviation oriented friends visited my home over the holiday season.
I couldn't be happier. The print was delivered as promised in a carefully packed tube.
Keep in mind that we are dealing with a very fine piece of artwork.
For all that they must go through to produce something of this quality I believe that the price is well justified.
TJTechArt
01-11-2010, 09:50 AM
The -7 slider is still in-process, correct?
I'll take a gold turd, too. The wife has a birthday coming up...:D
Yes, the -7 sliders are still in process.
Jim P
01-11-2010, 10:18 AM
As someone who as actually produced a commissioned print, I can say that there's a reason the term "starving artist" came into being. If an artist actually received compensation for the time invested at even minimum wage, limited production runs would end up being prohibitively expensive. OK, Nina can bump the print cost by $20 and lower shipping by the same and that still works for me (I really like the -7 print I just received).
Unfortunately in aviation (or other areas) we really want something for the lowest price and we're sometimes unwilling to appreciate what goes into a given product.
schristo@mac.com
01-11-2010, 12:10 PM
it is good to have the benefit of a community forum like this. through this discussion many details and
perspectives have been captured that give a broader perspective.
the vendor received alert to an error in rendering the canopy that was corrected before printing, details of the
paper, its look and presentation, and the thoughts behind the choices have been made available, unusual shipping
costs have been revealed and will likely be appropriately allocated in the future.
this is the sort of thing that makes a community forum so useful.
TJTechArt
01-11-2010, 12:55 PM
Thanks to everyone who responded on our behalf. Like I said before, we love hearing nice things about Tom?s work and I enjoy the nice customer service comments. Although criticism is welcomed ? it?s not especially enjoyed. But it is clear from everyone?s comments that our pricing structure needs correction.
Also thank you Stephen for your gracious response and for adamantly bringing the problem to our attention in the first place - like I said, not pleasant to hear, but we did hear you.
Tom comes from a commercial art world where projects are one-off. One customer ? one print ? one check. Quite frankly, we had no idea what we were getting into when agreeing to do the RV commissioned work. We were quickly overwhelmed by the administration of the project and realized we had drastically underestimated the ?handling? in the ?shipping and handling? charges. So, being na?ve, we increased the handling charges to be more realistic. What can I say ? that didn?t go very well.
Recommended pricing, in the art world, for a 24x36 giclee print is between $350 - $850. We weren?t trying to make a killing and we felt if we kept the price way low, more people would be able to enjoy the print and we would be okay with higher volume. Tom way under-estimated the time each illustration would take and the volume hasn?t been forthcoming. But Tom really loves what he is doing, and we?re both enjoying working with all of you - so he?s still at it.
Tom and I will focus on our cost structure after he gets the -7 and -7A slider illustrations released and shipped. The new cost structure will necessarily result in a price increase on all prints for all models, to more realistically cover the time it takes to produce an illustration and the administration and handling in a small shop like ours. The shipping charges will no longer include ?handling? and will be lowered to include only a flat postage fee and packaging. In the event the overall price (print plus shipping) ends up increasing, we will honor current pricing for any orders received prior to the new pricing being announced.
Tom and I both truly enjoy working with the RV community and regret that our pricing structure was at the center of such a riff. We look forward to an on-going relationship with all of you and hope to be able to embark on another RV project once the -7 series project and a few custom orders are completed. Although still not enough orders for a project, the 9 series is picking up momentum and the -6's have some interest as well.
To Stephen ? if you want to return your print, please send us an email at tjtechart@comcast.net and we will give you instructions for returning it and receiving a refund.
Nina
RV7Ron
01-11-2010, 01:01 PM
it is good to have the benefit of a community forum like this. through this discussion many details and
perspectives have been captured that give a broader perspective.
the vendor received alert to an error in rendering the canopy that was corrected before printing, details of the
paper, its look and presentation, and the thoughts behind the choices have been made available, unusual shipping
costs have been revealed and will likely be appropriately allocated in the future.
this is the sort of thing that makes a community forum so useful.
in the end i was charged 560% over the actual shipping cost of 5.70. not cool.
charge whatever you want for your product but shifting product costs to shipping is foul.
i want a refund.
I agree, it is useful. But the way you essentially attacked them (Tom & Nina) on this public forum was tasteless, as if they were purposely trying to screw you over. I have nothing against you nor do I know you but if you are truly that unhappy send them a PM and I'm sure they would refund your money, because you certainly seem to be in the minority on this.
Just got my 7A tip-up prints. Very, very nice! The print quality is impressive, and Tom's artwork is outstanding.
An interesting thing to note is that I purchased a limited edition giclee print (for my living room) as well as a standard print (for the hangar), and so it's interesting to compare the two prints side by side. They both look terrific. To my surprise, I actually can't see a difference in sharpness between the two. The resolution is so high and the registration so tight that I'd have to put them under a microscope to compare sharpness (which I have no intention of doing). The only clearly visible difference that I can point to is color. The colors in the giclee print appear to have higher saturation than the standard print, and so aesthetically the giclee has a somewhat deeper, bolder, more vibrant appearance. Having said that, again, both prints look great. And the difference, even side by side, is actually pretty subtle (at least to my eyes).
Thanks again, Tom and Nina, from a very satisfied customer.
-Roee
ccrawford
01-15-2010, 10:54 PM
Received my print today, the giclee version, and it looks super sharp.
Now I just need to save a bundle to go get it framed
JonJay
01-16-2010, 09:17 AM
Hi folks. You used my buddy Dan's 8 out here at Parkside for a photo shoot. I have seen his print and your stock print and they are fascinating and fun to look at. If you would consider doing the 6 at some point, you are welcome to come out to Parkside again and go over my 6.
The 6 may present more of a market than the other models as more of those have been built by far than any other model. But of course, most of us 6 owners are old school, cheap and crusty, so that might balance things out! HA!
The 6 was not CAD designed, all hand drafted. Not sure how much you guys import from Van's, so the 6 project might be more development than its worth at any price.
Regardless, beautiful work and well worth the price for such a fine print.
TJTechArt
01-16-2010, 07:05 PM
Hi folks. You used my buddy Dan's 8 out here at Parkside for a photo shoot. I have seen his print and your stock print and they are fascinating and fun to look at. If you would consider doing the 6 at some point, you are welcome to come out to Parkside again and go over my 6.
The 6 may present more of a market than the other models as more of those have been built by far than any other model. But of course, most of us 6 owners are old school, cheap and crusty, so that might balance things out! HA!
The 6 was not CAD designed, all hand drafted. Not sure how much you guys import from Van's, so the 6 project might be more development than its worth at any price.
Regardless, beautiful work and well worth the price for such a fine print.
Hi Jonjay,
Thanks for the invite. If the interest picks up on the -6, I'll take you up on that.
BTW, all of the RV cutaways were done without the luxury of any CAD data from Van's. I worked in 2 dimensions on all of them using the same plans you use for building the real thing plus hundreds of photos as reference I shot myself. Ask Dan, I wore a grove around his plane over the several days that I analyzed it.
Tom
TJTechArt
01-23-2010, 04:56 PM
Hi Group,
The RV-7 slider version cutaway has just been released. If you placed an order, you will receive a Paypal invoice shortly. If you think you placed an order and have not received an acknowledgement from us, we don't have your order. If you would like to order a print, send an e-mail to us at: tjtechart@comcast.net or call: 503-954-3732. Looking forward to coverting this image to the -7A slider version.
Cheers, Tom
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/7639/rv7layerssliderweb1.jpg
OK Tom -
That makes two in a row with no duckie and no chicken.
What gives?
TJTechArt
01-24-2010, 06:41 PM
The response was mixed on the ducky and rubber chicken. If I get enough votes, I can put them back to work. They love it! Just chime in and let me know.
Tom
TJTechArt
02-05-2010, 11:56 AM
Hi Group,
The RV-7A Slider Cutaway has just been released. Print production will follow immediately. For more information about the prints, send a request to: tjtechart@comcast.net. Enjoy.
Tomhttp://img508.imageshack.us/img508/9931/rv7aflatsliderfinale.jpg
LuisR
02-05-2010, 12:34 PM
Any plans for a -10 version?
rleffler
02-05-2010, 12:55 PM
Any plans for a -10 version?
I hope so!
If enough models get done, a RV-10 has to come sooner or later.
Tom,
You may want to state the process and commitments you require to get the RV-10 started.
bob
TJTechArt
02-05-2010, 06:53 PM
In response to inquiries about RV-6 and RV-10 projects . . . Right now, Tom doesn't have immediate plans for more RV models, as there are not enough orders for any model to justify a project. Here's the stats
RV-4: 7 orders
RV-6: 12 orders
RV-9: 20 orders
RV-10: 6 orders
RV12: 2 orders
Like Tom said in an earlier post, he does not use CAD. Everything is done from scratch in 2D, using blueprints and photos of actual planes. Since it takes about 6 months for Tom to do a series, we need to have somewhere around 60 orders for a model to sustain a project. The number of orders needed depends upon how many of them are for limited editions. If most are open edition prints, then we need more than 60.
Current plans are to work on the orders for custom RV paint schemes and then we'll see if any of the other models get enough interest to start another RV project. We'll keep filling orders for RV-8, -8A, -7 and -7A as well as customs for those models.
Thanks.
Nina
rleffler
02-06-2010, 04:07 AM
So how is an order placed to get in the queue?
TJTechArt
02-07-2010, 10:56 AM
So how is an order placed to get in the queue?
Just send an email to tjtechart@comcast.net and let us know which model you want and whether you want a limited edition or an open edition print. If you want an open edition, let us know if you want an 18x24 or 24x36.
LuisR
02-07-2010, 12:37 PM
Just send an email to tjtechart@comcast.net and let us know which model you want and whether you want a limited edition or an open edition print. If you want an open edition, let us know if you want an 18x24 or 24x36.
What's he difference between the limited and open edition?
RV7Ron
02-07-2010, 12:42 PM
What's he difference between the limited and open edition?
http://www.vansairforce.net/graphics/Cutaway.pdf
this should help answer your question.
TJTechArt
02-09-2010, 10:31 AM
Due to popular demand, the rubber chicken is back to work on the pitot tube. There will be 2 versions of the RV-7A Slider prints - 1 with chicken and 1 without. Send your request to: tjtechart@comcast.net and let us know which version you prefer. Those of you who have already contacted us do not need to reply again.
Tomhttp://img52.imageshack.us/img52/3206/rv7alayslidermaster.jpg
TJTechArt
03-15-2010, 07:52 PM
Hi Group,
Thought you would like to see a custom cutaway of N743RV. For information on how to get a custom cutaway of your RV-8, 8A, 7 or 7A, please contact Tom at: tjtechart@comcast.net.
Tomhttp://img691.imageshack.us/img691/2346/n743rvmastercopy.jpg
TJTechArt
08-10-2010, 03:44 PM
Hi Group,
I just completed a custom RV-7A cutaway based on the aircraft out at Van's, N137RV.http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/415/rv7avansweb.jpg
TJTechArt
08-15-2010, 09:27 AM
I am planning to release a 2011 Calender featuring 12 RV Cutaways soon. Stay tuned for details.
Tom
E. D. Eliot
08-15-2010, 12:15 PM
Count me in for the RV-12 editions. Thanks
TJTechArt
08-16-2010, 09:02 AM
This is the paint scheme I am using for the next RV-8 custom cutaway.
Tomhttp://img541.imageshack.us/img541/2964/traditionalredgray.jpg
dmhodge
08-16-2010, 09:31 AM
I'd be interested in a -7A
TJTechArt
08-16-2010, 09:40 AM
Do you mean a -7A with the above red and gray paint scheme?
Tom Out
GEM930
08-17-2010, 12:38 PM
Any plans to do a 6a?
TJTechArt
09-06-2010, 01:27 PM
To date, interest in a cutaway of the -6, -6A Models has been very small. Several more commitments would be required before a project could be started.
Tom
Ted Radclyffe
09-06-2010, 02:51 PM
I would be interested in an RV6-A cutaway if there were one in the offing.
Ted
"Rough Red"
VH-ITR
TJTechArt
09-06-2010, 03:01 PM
I'll add you to the list, Ted.
GEM930
09-06-2010, 03:07 PM
Arn't there more 6s flying than any other RV?
Couldn't you just make the changes to the 7 / 7a drawings that are already completed? Anyway please add me to the 6a list.
TJTechArt
09-07-2010, 10:38 AM
I will check out to see what it will take to convert the -7 to a -6.
Tom
Inverted
09-07-2010, 01:44 PM
I've emailed twice asking about the -6 drawing. Once initially and then 6 months later asking for an update.
Count me in! I'd like one of the giclee prints. Am I #1? :D
JonJay
09-07-2010, 02:17 PM
I will check out to see what it will take to convert the -7 to a -6.
Tom
There are very few similarities outside of exterior appearance. The spar, battery box (unless you upgraded like many), wing tips, number of ribs, rudder, seat pans,...I could go on and on. Basically, it would be like starting over.
TJTechArt
09-16-2010, 02:31 PM
There are very few similarities outside of exterior appearance. The spar, battery box (unless you upgraded like many), wing tips, number of ribs, rudder, seat pans,...I could go on and on. Basically, it would be like starting over.
I just received the preview plans for the -6, -6A and will study them in the next few days to find out how much effort will be required to create a cutaway illustration. I will keep you posted.
Tom
snoop9erdog
09-16-2010, 05:00 PM
Any chance you can look into the 9? It is essentially a 7 with a different wing and rectangular horizontal stabilizer. The fuse is exactly the same.
Thanks,
Ed
NYTOM
09-16-2010, 07:35 PM
Put me on the list Ted. :D Definite sale here.
TJTechArt
09-19-2010, 01:33 PM
Hi Group,
I have just launched my website to satisfy all of your cutaway needs. Fun for the whole family! Check out: http://tjtechart.com
Cheers, Tom
TJTechArt
01-06-2011, 08:07 PM
Here's the latest custom RV-7A cutaway; Steve Jarrell's beautiful N84-VC originally built by Vic Syracuse.http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/1373/n84vcfinalweb1.jpg
sjarrell
01-07-2011, 07:59 AM
work by Tom. Highly recommended!!!
mburch
01-07-2011, 08:20 AM
Cool! That airplane must be extra fast with both horizontal and vertical fuel injection. ;)
mcb (owner of RV-7 print #2)
TJTechArt
01-07-2011, 04:49 PM
Cool! That airplane must be extra fast with both horizontal and vertical fuel injection. ;)
mcb (owner of RV-7 print #2)
I was aware of fuel system confusion. The cost of a custom cutaway is directly related to time. The more time it takes to accurately portray a particular aircraft, the higher the cost.
In the case of this illustration, the lower air scope on the cowl was more important to the client than completely modifying the base stock illustration engine components to convert it to vertical injection - hence the two intake systems.
Tom
aarvig
01-07-2011, 04:55 PM
Sweet...absolutely sweet.
lorne green
01-07-2011, 05:23 PM
Sweet...absolutely sweet.
Yes, I'm very pleased with my 7A cut-away from Tom. I display mine above my bed......sweet dreams...........
I paid more fo the frame, matt et al, than the print.
Tom's RV 7a #1 (signed, of course)
sjarrell
01-08-2011, 02:30 PM
Cool! That airplane must be extra fast with both horizontal and vertical fuel injection. ;)
mcb (owner of RV-7 print #2)
Yep, top speed and payload double, and fuel usage gets cut in half. I'm amazed someone didn't do it sooner! :D
TJTechArt
04-26-2011, 03:35 PM
For a limited time, TJ Techart is offering 50% off the regular price for Cutaway RV prints.
24 X 36 Limited-Edition Giclee was $275.00......now only $137.50.
24 X 36 Open-Edition was $100.00.......now only $50.00.
18 X 24 Open-Edition was $75.00.....now only $37.50.
Shipping and Handling is FREE!
This offer good while supplies last.
To order, send e-mail request to: tom@tjtechart.com.
Brantel
04-26-2011, 03:45 PM
Ouch, guess I should have waited!
xavierm
04-26-2011, 05:30 PM
I might need a second one for my office.
David Z
04-26-2011, 06:19 PM
I was going to wait until after the summer :D
UnPossible
05-19-2011, 08:44 PM
Hey - has anyone heard from Tom recently? I emailed back and forth with him nearly a month ago about his clearance sale. I sent a check in late April, that cleared my bank on 5/2. I have not recieved my print and have not been able to get in touch with him to see what is going on. I sent him an email late last week, and left a voice message yesterday.
Not sure where to go from here.....
NYTOM
05-20-2011, 03:53 AM
I sent my check about the same time you sent yours and my print was delivered yesterday. It's actually much better than I expected with very rich coloring and printed on thick photo stock. Going out to get a frame for it tonight. Finally I have a something I can point to when trying to explain to friends and family what that mass of aluminum in my shop is all about. :D
UnPossible
05-20-2011, 09:27 AM
Hey - has anyone heard from Tom recently? I emailed back and forth with him nearly a month ago about his clearance sale. I sent a check in late April, that cleared my bank on 5/2. I have not recieved my print and have not been able to get in touch with him to see what is going on. I sent him an email late last week, and left a voice message yesterday.
Not sure where to go from here.....
FYI - I heard from Tom this morning that my print in on its way.... thanks,
Jason
MauiLvrs
12-30-2011, 11:05 AM
Regarding shipping and handling.
As you can see, we have included our administrative expenses into the cost of shipping and handling and we are re-thinking this practice. Apparently it makes the shipping and handling seem inflated and causes customer dissatisfaction.
Nina
It doesn't seem inflated .. It is inflated. Charge for the product what it cost to make it!
If you want to extort people... at least separate the shipping cost and the extortion (handling) cost.
Most everything we buy from Amazon .. come with free shipping ... or at least discounted.
TJTechArt
09-06-2013, 12:35 PM
I have a few 24 X 36 Cutaway Prints left that I am clearing out. Price is $50.00 ea which includes domestic shipping. RV-7 Sider, RV-7 Tip-Up and a few RV-7A Tip-Ups.
Send me a private message if you are interested.
Cheers, Tom
DarylT
09-06-2013, 05:40 PM
And this is how good they look when they are framed!
Tom did a great job.
http://www.rv7a-factory.com/photos/TJCutaway.jpg
Dean Pichon
09-06-2013, 06:34 PM
I have a few 24 X 36 Cutaway Prints left that I am clearing out. Price is $50.00 ea which includes domestic shipping. RV-7 Sider, RV-7 Tip-Up and a few RV-7A Tip-Ups.
Send me a private message if you are interested.
Cheers, Tom
Hey Tom,
When do you plan to complete the RV-4?
TJTechArt
09-09-2013, 04:14 PM
To everyone out there who have been asking about the RV Model choice for the next Cutaway Project:
The most popular is the -9 but it will be awhile before I get to it. Illustration is only a part-time endevour now as I work full-time at an Engineering Design Company.
Currently, when I do have time for drawing, I work on a Cutaway illustration of my favorite airplane - The 1931 Gee Bee Model Z. Completion date is at least 6 months out. After that, I plan to do the Laird Super Solution.
Cheers,
Tom
snoop9erdog
09-09-2013, 04:44 PM
Tom,
I'm also ready for a 9 when you geter done:D
RV7AJeremy
09-09-2013, 06:28 PM
I have a few 24 X 36 Cutaway Prints left that I am clearing out. Price is $50.00 ea which includes domestic shipping. RV-7 Sider, RV-7 Tip-Up and a few RV-7A Tip-Ups.
Send me a private message if you are interested.
Cheers, Tom
Hi Tom,
PM sent but I will take a 7 slider.
Weasel
09-10-2013, 09:38 AM
If there is ever time in your life to consider the RV-10 -- I would be #1 for the high definition print #1 if/when if becomes availible.
-Weasel
rleffler
09-10-2013, 09:41 AM
If there is ever time in your life to consider the RV-10 -- I would be #1 for the high definition print #1.
-Weasel
I tried to generate interest a couple years ago, but couldn't get enough interest to meet mininum order requirements. I'm certainly in if there is enough interest.
bob
Steve Melton
09-10-2013, 10:11 AM
+1 for 9A for me
Rupester
09-10-2013, 12:19 PM
+1 9A for me too ...
KRviator
09-10-2013, 12:33 PM
Me too!
For a -9A one that is...
RVbySDI
09-10-2013, 12:53 PM
I posted a couple of years ago (Oh wow! I just noticed it was 4 years ago. Man, time flies when you are. . . ummm, flying) to request the 9A on this thread (post # 272 (http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=38927&page=28)). At that time the 9A was not on the drawing board yet. Perhaps there is enough interest now to spur on the production of such a drawing.
I'll take a 9A giclee print. I'd prefer a slider and will send an email.
n981ms
09-10-2013, 02:00 PM
in for a 10
Mike S
09-10-2013, 02:01 PM
I also would be in for a RV 10, if you ever do one.
Tom:
Sent a pm requesting a 7 slider.
Please put me on the list for a 9a slider.
thx
ppilotmike
09-11-2013, 11:03 AM
Count me in for the 10 cutaway, if and when you do one. I think I'll be interested in a custom one of my particular bird too. However, I'm still a few years away from being finished...:mad: If you do a generic 10, I'm still likely to buy one, to have framed until my project is complete.
Scbado
09-12-2013, 07:24 AM
Plus 1 for the 9A Slider - please add me to the list
majuro15
12-29-2013, 05:52 PM
I'd like a -10 cut away drawing as well. I'll be taking you up on a customized version in the future once I have mine done. But would love to have a generic anytime!
ppilotmike
06-18-2014, 03:21 PM
Tom,
How's it coming on the list for RV-10'rs? Any chance you'll be starting on one of those anytime soon?
majuro15
06-18-2014, 07:07 PM
Yes, update please, I have space on a wall reserved!
RV9A Bill
06-18-2014, 07:12 PM
Another who like one of the 9a slider.
RV9A Bill
Hornet2008
06-19-2014, 04:08 AM
A 9 slider would be nice depending on price.
rleffler
06-19-2014, 06:18 AM
Tom,
How's it coming on the list for RV-10'rs? Any chance you'll be starting on one of those anytime soon?
When I tried to convince Tom that a RV-10 would be a good next project several years ago, he request that we coordinate a minimum number of prints to cover his initial cost of production. I don't recall the exact number for the minimum commitment. I couldn't get enough interest to come close to meeting that number.
However, if you want to give Tom a call and handle that coordination, you can put down for one.
bob
n981ms
06-19-2014, 06:28 AM
I would be in for a ten also.
airguy
06-19-2014, 07:56 AM
Still waiting for my 9A....
N941WR
06-19-2014, 08:07 AM
I'm guessing we will never see a -9 (negative on the Alpha) print. Tip-up or slider doesn't really matter.
ppilotmike
06-19-2014, 08:35 AM
Bob,
I wouldn't mind leading the charge, but it would be low on my priority list. I've got two builds going on (mostly the 10 however), plus renovations on my house, plus a 2 yr old daughter, plus a baby son due to be born next Friday (July 4th), plus wife and I work fulltime, plus no family nearby (hers in Poland, mine in Georgia), etc., etc... And Oshkosh is coming up soon! :o
Maybe next year, I'll jump on this.
Scbado
06-19-2014, 08:14 PM
I'd love to have one of a 9A slider!
Ken Martin
06-29-2018, 09:42 AM
Does anyone know if Tom is still selling Open Edition Prints? I sent an email to the address listed, but it came back undeliverable.
Thanks,