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n700jl
05-09-2017, 10:33 AM
Thomas,
An official welcome to this elite club!I knew you could get there since you ditched that slow Cessna trainer! HAHA! I am sure this will be only 1 of many memorable flights that you will have in you beautiful, FAST RV-10! Congratulations!:D:cool:
n700jl
05-09-2017, 10:36 AM
OH and BTW 221kts is awesome! And I am sorry this club will never get old!:D Keep pounding those rivets! You can do it!
tfriendshuh
05-16-2017, 02:15 PM
Wheee!
https://photos.smugmug.com/325RB/n-4B8Rx7/i-5Bfr7wB/0/2a7cee0d/X2/i-5Bfr7wB-X2.jpg
daddyman
05-17-2017, 03:45 PM
Wheee!
https://photos.smugmug.com/325RB/n-4B8Rx7/i-5Bfr7wB/0/2a7cee0d/X2/i-5Bfr7wB-X2.jpg
All,
I've been looking forward to joining this rare club.
Location: just west of Washington, DC (LDN VOR)
Alt: 7,500
RV-4 160hp with CS Hartzel
Oh Boy.
The picture is not that sharp as I do not have George to rely on, and so a quick from my phone to my iPad.
http://i65.tinypic.com/3012aa8.jpg
Daddyman
Jetj01
05-24-2017, 12:47 PM
Always thankful when the tail wind gods choose to visit my RV-4FB
http://i67.tinypic.com/2zof6hi.jpg
http://i63.tinypic.com/n4gw82.jpg
humptybump
06-18-2017, 07:40 AM
A while back I managed to get my little 150hp RV-8 into the 200Kts Club with a ground speed of 208Kts. I kind of forgot about it until the other day when I was looking for a photo of Stormy's Hop Along airfield.
That's when I found this little gem ...
http://elder.ninja/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/uploads/2017/06/12VA-53VG_228kts-575x472.jpg
j-red
07-11-2017, 01:05 PM
Winds weren't any faster up here at 10k than they were down at 8, but I couldn't know that without trying :D
170KTAS, 203 GS
http://halie.com/scale/25/oij.jpg
RV7A Flyer
07-11-2017, 10:13 PM
I've been 200+ a few times, as high as 215 knots ground speed. I had 70 knot headwinds one time, and was tempted to both turn around for a bit to get 240 GS, and then slow to < 70 TAS to get 0 or negative, but the thought of having to cover the same ground twice at 100 knots was so painful I opted not to do it! :)
mbuehler
07-12-2017, 08:18 AM
Didn't know this was a thing! :) I squeaked it over the line a few weeks ago on the way to Spokane :
http://i.imgur.com/poCRGw1h.jpg
istrumit
07-12-2017, 12:35 PM
RV-10s can do it too ! In level flight !
http://imgur.com/a/70nwy
istrumit
07-12-2017, 12:38 PM
RV-10s can do it too, in level flight !
src="http://imgur.com/a/70nwy"
istrumit
07-12-2017, 12:39 PM
RV-10s can do it too, in level flight !
<IMG src="http://imgur.com/a/70nwy" /IMG>
istrumit
07-12-2017, 12:39 PM
RV-10s can do it too, in level flight !
<img src="http://imgur.com/a/70nwy" >
istrumit
07-12-2017, 02:20 PM
http://imgur.com/a/70nwy
istrumit
07-12-2017, 02:20 PM
RV-10s can do it too, in level flight!
link to pic: http://i.imgur.com/vWogvpm.jpg
Auburntsts
07-13-2017, 07:32 AM
I made it once too! Actually got it up to 203KTS but didn't take a photo so this will have to suffice:
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4207/35728173932_56a6ab0d29_c.jpg
Gary's RV7A
08-31-2017, 08:59 AM
http://<a href="http://s1285.photobucket.com/user/RV7A/media/232%20knots_zpslbxdj6jm.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a582/RV7A/232%20knots_zpslbxdj6jm.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo 232 knots_zpslbxdj6jm.jpg"/></a>http://s1285.photobucket.com/user/RV7A/media/232%20knots_zpslbxdj6jm.jpg.html
Gary's RV7A
08-31-2017, 09:06 AM
http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a582/RV7A/232%20knots_zpslbxdj6jm.jpg
bkervaski
08-31-2017, 09:14 AM
Heck yea! Awesome thread. Any RV-14's in 200kt club yet?
N941WR
08-31-2017, 09:16 AM
I made it once too! Actually got it up to 203KTS but didn't take a photo so this will have to suffice:
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4207/35728173932_56a6ab0d29_c.jpg
No picture, it didn't happen. ;)
Dustyone
08-31-2017, 04:00 PM
My Prayers to the Tailwind Gods were finally answered :p
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tommylewis
10-23-2017, 08:06 PM
Today we flew our RV7a from South Dakota to Texas with some great tailwinds.
http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/pp138/tommy1lewis/N967BT/IMG_3854.jpg
Aiki_Aviator
10-24-2017, 03:34 PM
https://www.dropbox.com/s/bkf97owxouplh2y/240.jpg?dl=0
Big tailwind :-)
Melbourne to Sydney - Australia...
RFazio
01-23-2018, 10:41 AM
Here is my photo.
https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipPy-XwW9V-g4GnQzcLTiQV5U_0UMXZAid3D2lNz
https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipPy-XwW9V-g4GnQzcLTiQV5U_0UMXZAid3D2lNz
Dorfie
02-21-2018, 08:06 AM
Had the great joy of an average tailwind of 34kt on our return flight from Stinson field in San Antonio to Lexington in KY past Monday. Started of with GS of 195 with increasing winds nearer home with GS to 217. Did about 875NM in 4h26min
Here is a link to my track in FlightAware: https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/N245JM
Some compensation for my flight there on Friday against similar winds!!
Johan
Janekom
02-21-2018, 08:59 AM
Here are two screenshots from Dorfie's flight.
http://hanekom.org.za/Images_Vlieg/N245JM_212KTS.JPG
http://hanekom.org.za/Images_Vlieg/N245JM_217KTS.JPG
mike newall
02-21-2018, 02:31 PM
Yeah....roughly! :cool:
Now what I want to see in these photos is proof that you were LEVEL at the time!
Tsk Tsk...
The shuttle wasn't level, it was in freefall - it just kept missing the earth :p
FasGlas
02-21-2018, 08:07 PM
Please note.. This is TAS not GPS.
https://image.ibb.co/jtbLtH/2_11_18.jpg
jbell2355
02-22-2018, 10:27 AM
https://i.imgur.com/sp0VHRM.jpg
rightrudder
02-22-2018, 11:58 PM
Congrats!! Now clean your EFIS screen. :D
As of now I'm in the 186-kt club with my -9A. :o One of these days I'll find the perfect tailwind.
jbell2355
02-23-2018, 02:49 AM
Congrats!! Now clean your EFIS screen. :D
As of now I'm in the 186-kt club with my -9A. :o One of these days I'll find the perfect tailwind.
LOL, it only looks that dirty when the sun shines just right and it's put under a microscope.
Ethanol1
02-24-2018, 06:20 AM
KSAW caught my eye. I was there last weekend for the sled dog races and snowboarding with my daughter.
mike newall
02-24-2018, 02:11 PM
Please may I join the club the traditional way...
https://photos.smugmug.com/RV-Photos/i-RgGpGHc/0/7a9e0cb3/L/H5Gvi38eRliZVe4zotoqYQ-L.jpg
Bevan
02-24-2018, 07:56 PM
Please may I join the club the traditional way...
https://photos.smugmug.com/RV-Photos/i-RgGpGHc/0/7a9e0cb3/L/H5Gvi38eRliZVe4zotoqYQ-L.jpg
TAS is the way that really counts but -4700 fpm?
Bevan.
mike newall
02-25-2018, 04:14 AM
I know, I know, we were having fun - OK :D
It was a gentle run up to it. We had at least 30 seconds worth left ;)
Bill.Peyton
04-18-2018, 02:53 PM
St. Louis to Ft. Myers 3:51!
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/795/39720254330_380db20d9b_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/23vWFMd)5B542F6A-01E3-4AB7-9563-85547A001913 (https://flic.kr/p/23vWFMd) by Bill Peyton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157728418@N08/), on Flickr
BillL
04-18-2018, 03:52 PM
St. Louis to Ft. Myers 3:51!
Bill, no pictures so it did not happen (me not you) , but yesterday I was doing some Phase I at 9000ft and only had a 72KT tailwind, for a GS of 248kts. 46F OAT, but temps below 3500 were 34F.
OK, OK . . . so pictures next time.
Bill.Peyton
04-18-2018, 04:09 PM
Without pictures it didn?t happen!
Chattin35
04-22-2018, 04:10 PM
I'm in! Made it with normal cruise config :)
https://i.imgur.com/iNTUcO7l.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/TPXkVz0l.png
Champ
12-04-2018, 11:24 AM
Did the 200+ knot thing. Straight and level at 5500ft, WOT, full rich, with a pretty good tail wind - parking brake not engaged ;).
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Posted this before but here's my RV looking fast on the ground.
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Dan Langhout
12-04-2018, 12:23 PM
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PerfTech
12-04-2018, 12:30 PM
?.It seems as if I usually have headwinds and rarely see favorable tailwinds.
It must be some kind of conspiracy, or something of sorts. I did find about 37
MPH on the tail at 14,500' the other day on my way to Oregon, but that seems
rare for me these days. :confused:
https://i.postimg.cc/CK91vJFp/IMG-1445.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
snopercod
12-04-2018, 02:42 PM
I hope Doug will forgive me for posting this short video on his RV site, but I'm just so proud of descending into AVL at 220 MPH in my 140 HP Lancair. I had to keep my speed up to stay in front of Darwin's RV-4! It was pretty cool seeing the houses pass rapidly underneath. :D (The Garmin editing software has a bug in that it only shows ground speeds up to 127 Kts.)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/flcwv7pjhpe59fz/2018-11-29%20Birthday%20GMU%20Clouds.mp4?dl=0
RWoodard
12-17-2018, 08:52 AM
My little RV-3 doesn?t have to work too hard to get to 200kts groundspeed. I?ve seen significantly bigger numbers with bigger winds, but wanted to at least get on the board!
This is on the way home from an impromptu trip from KFNL to KSBS. I was at 13,500 feet just west of Estes Park and slightly north of the summit of Trail Ridge Road.
My TAS was 179kts so there was very little wind.
http://www.woodardfamily.com/hosted/9F85C8B3-9027-47A8-878C-2AAA1300F35A.jpeg
http://www.woodardfamily.com/hosted/8E045F80-AA82-448B-AC0E-E03D2306E1F1.jpeg
http://www.woodardfamily.com/hosted/FA5EB287-D220-42E8-9F71-13EB96CFCB90.jpeg
RV7 To Go
12-20-2018, 04:58 PM
http://i67.tinypic.com/2jg2edz.jpg
Hoping the pic works....
Firewalled leaving CYTB yesterday in my 7 with a climb to 3000' and a 21 kt tailwind. Running ROP on a 180 hp O-360, Marvel 10-3878 with the Mooney mod, Sensenich 85" FP and dual mags. Took a little more than 2700 rpm to get there but she did!
Al
Christopher Murphy
12-20-2018, 06:40 PM
My little RV-3 doesn?t have to work too hard to get to 200kts groundspeed. I?ve seen significantly bigger numbers with bigger winds, but wanted to at least get on the board!
This is on the way home from an impromptu trip from KFNL to KSBS. I was at 13,500 feet just west of Estes Park and slightly north of the summit of Trail Ridge Road.
My TAS was 179kts so there was very little wind.
http://www.woodardfamily.com/hosted/9F85C8B3-9027-47A8-878C-2AAA1300F35A.jpeg
http://www.woodardfamily.com/hosted/8E045F80-AA82-448B-AC0E-E03D2306E1F1.jpeg
http://www.woodardfamily.com/hosted/FA5EB287-D220-42E8-9F71-13EB96CFCB90.jpeg
Hey Rod
I flew on that same route the next morning bringing 170 of my friends back from Lihue and was doing about 400 kts. Id post a picture but I dont have it set up.
😀
Cm
http://i67.tinypic.com/2jg2edz.jpg
Hoping the pic works....
Firewalled leaving CYTB yesterday in my 7 with a climb to 3000' and a 21 kt tailwind. Running ROP on a 180 hp O-360, Marvel 10-3878 with the Mooney mod, Sensenich 85" FP and dual mags. Took a little more than 2700 rpm to get there but she did!
Al
Gee that's really pushing the RPM into the red, I sure as **** wouldn't do that! I get my RPM back to 2600 just after t/off, I almost feel sorry for your engine! -:(
RWoodard
12-21-2018, 05:37 AM
Gee that's really pushing the RPM into the red, I sure as **** wouldn't do that! I get my RPM back to 2600 just after t/off, I almost feel sorry for your engine! -:(
Not to worry. It?s a Canadian RV?-those are metric RPMs!
rvsxer
12-21-2018, 06:37 AM
A few evenings ago, normal cruise:
https://photos.smugmug.com/RV-Stuff/i-pDL7Wnm/0/7c9d2097/L/20181216_200016-L.jpg
Many years ago I was flying freight in a Piper Lance at 11,000' near LaCrosse, WI and saw 260 kt on the DME (yes, DME). Verified GS with ATC. 100 kt tailwind. Routine for an airliner but not seen often down low.
SJordan
12-21-2018, 08:14 PM
Just got this one today coming back from picking up a new prop from Catto, It obviously preforms amazingly.
http://i68.tinypic.com/2meydtg.jpg
I'm gonna put this one up just because I like the numbers. Groundspeed is nice (221 knots) but check the TAS vs fuel flow, 192 at 9.8. Settings are simple; WOT, adjust RPM for an indicated 65%, and lean to peak at 23 degrees BTDC.
Pressure recovery for the combustion air intake is pretty good. 21.4 Hg is measured at the usual #3 intake port. Static pressure for this altitude and temperature is 20.98, so delivered MP increase due to ram is 0.4" Hg after all intake tract losses, here including a filter which hasn't been cleaned since last January.
How much intake tract loss? Total pressure at this PA, temperature, and velocity is 22.3 Hg, but you can't recover all of it for several reasons. In the case of an engine intake (and just like cooling air), the noteworthy factor is that the "pitot" is not a closed end system. At 2500 RPM, if we assume engine VE is 90%, the calculated total pressure inside the airbox, before the filter, would be 21.9 rather than 22.3, so the overall intake tract loss for the 390, with filter and FM200, appears to be about 0.5" Hg.
Please excuse the crappy photo. The sun was at an entirely wrong angle.
https://www.danhorton.net/VAF/Join%20the%20200Kt%20Club/2500_RPM_Cruise_12122018.jpg
rvbuilder2002
12-22-2018, 10:24 AM
Settings are simple; WOT, adjust RPM for an indicated 65%, and lean to peak at 23 degrees BTDC.
Whhhhhatttt.......
Only 23 degrees BTDC?
You don't need the fancy ignition system gear for good fuel economy? :rolleyes:
BillL
12-22-2018, 09:00 PM
Just taking some other data this morning, and did a quick run up to get on the board.
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Toobuilder
12-23-2018, 08:46 AM
Whhhhhatttt.......
Only 23 degrees BTDC?
You don't need the fancy ignition system gear for good fuel economy? :rolleyes:
Keep in mind that this is "Peak" EGT and the flame front is still moving pretty rapidly. Go LOP and the advance requirements change quickly.
Also keep in mind this is an angle valve with a better combustion chamber AND higher compression than standard, to boot. 23 degrees is a relatively steep advance.
If you are to add the 5 degrees to compensate for the less efficient parallel valve combustion chamber, a few more to make up for the higher compression, and then the 4 that I add when going 30 LOP, sudenly you have your advance in the low 30's.
If you want to throw in another wrinkle, consider that Dan is running a dual system. If you want parity with all those guys running an electronic on one side and a mag on the other, you have to add ANOTHER 5 or so degrees. Now you are up in the high 30's, knocking on the door of 40. Yet this same engine at a sea level TO power will need ~ 22 degrees. Do you know of a "simple" ignition that offers that range of adjustment in normal operation?
So as it turns out "fancy ignition gear" IS a required tool for good economy.
Dont mean to turn this into another ignition thread, but the "cheap shot" needed a response from someone who has done the flight testing and knows better.
You're both right, and it wasn't a cheap shot. Technically speaking, it's not a fancy ignition system (a Ford module with a sub-$200 timing controller), and it is 23 degree fixed timing when running on this ignition map. I have two, switchable in flight, but a fella can probably do it with mags if given the other airframe changes.
I can run this angle valve for more economy, and if chasing economy alone, I'd be at less RPM, LOP, and out around 27~29 degrees, which is the other ignition map. However, I would also be slower. This is a speed thread. The point is 190 plus KTAS on less than 10 gph. It makes 200 knots GS a near sure thing for the windward leg of most flights, without breaking the bank. I like it.
Toobuilder
12-23-2018, 11:04 AM
You're both right, and it wasn't a cheap shot. Technically speaking, it's not a fancy ignition system (a Ford module with a sub-$200 timing controller), and it is 23 degree fixed timing when running on this ignition map. I have two, switchable in flight.
I can run this angle valve for more economy, and if chasing economy alone, I'd be at less RPM, LOP, and out around 27~29 degrees, which is the other ignition map. However, I would also be slower. This is a speed thread. The point is 190 plus KTAS on less than 10 gph. It makes 200 knots GS a near sure thing for the windward leg of most flights, without breaking the bank. I like it.
I believe Scott's intent was to diminish the importance of a "fancy" variable timing system.
In sharp contrast, here is but one post on a flight from a couple years ago which very clearly illustrates the value of variable (and most importantly "correct") timing.
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showpost.php?p=1099002&postcount=53
For those who dont want to read it, let me summerize: thanks to the correct timing curve I was able to match your speed AND FF in my heavy, loaded to the gills 540 Rocket on a hot day. I saw 191KTAS @10 GPH - could not have done that without direct control of the timing bump needed for LOP ops.
So to return this thread back to the boasting about speed:
Congrats Dan, you have managed to get your slick, highly refined speedster to match my overloaded, coarsely built and significantly overpowered Rocket for speed and economy! ;)
Toobuilder
12-23-2018, 12:19 PM
To be fair, my OAT was 70 degrees that day... At cruise altitude...
rvbuilder2002
12-23-2018, 08:19 PM
The point is 190 plus KTAS on less than 10 gph.
And that was my point as well.
I'm fully aware that the quoted fuel flow isn't as low as it could be if ultimate range economy is the goal.....
The point was that considering the speed it is still impressive fuel economy without advanced tech like automatic variable timing, etc.
FlyingBanker
01-04-2019, 01:47 PM
Didn't get a picture, but we hit a ground speed of 231kts on my very first flight in my newly purchased 6A on our way home from California. Nice way to start things out.
Ed_Wischmeyer
01-04-2019, 03:47 PM
Suppose Van's did come out with a fabric covered Super-Cub-ish plane, with rib stitching. That could give the 200-knot club a whole different meaning...
Paul K
01-04-2019, 06:24 PM
My ground speed exceeds 200k so often I don't even get excited about it! What I truly aim for is 168k TAS sipping 7 GPH or better! If I can find an altitude with a tail wind, all the better.
Bavafa
01-04-2019, 06:33 PM
My ground speed exceeds 200k so often I don't even get excited about it! What I truly aim for is 168k TAS sipping 7 GPH or better! If I can find an altitude with a tail wind, all the better.
At what altitude to you get this speed/fuel burn, it is awesome.
I have had one small cross country trip so I was only at 10500 and was getting same speed or a bit better but at 8.2G, of course I had a nice tailwind and did reach the 200K club thru the ground speed
My ground speed exceeds 200k so often I don't even get excited about it! What I truly aim for is 168k TAS sipping 7 GPH or better! If I can find an altitude with a tail wind, all the better.
Wow I've never heard of speeds using such low amounts of bang water, what's yr secret?
bruceh
02-10-2019, 05:30 PM
I finally was able to hit the magic 200+ Knot ground speed on the way to the Copperstate Fly In. This is of course only possible with a really strong 44 Knot direct tailwind, but it is in level flight with "Otto" the pilot at the controls. The green circle on the map is my "glide ring", you can see how skewed it is towards the North East. At one point I saw a 48 knot tailwind. It was actually quite smooth all the way out to Buckeye, AZ. I decided to enrichen the mixture a bit and see what the true speed of the airplane could be at altitude.
My usual 6.5 gph speed is around 147-150 Knots (LOP), so with 9 gph it was going only 8-10 knots faster.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Airplanes/Copperstate-Fly-In-2019/i-VCSpHSF/0/6a7f0e0d/M/screenshot-N5771H-SN03222-15.3.4.4867-20190209-073807-165-en_US-M.png
jeffkersey
02-15-2019, 07:51 AM
Yesterday was a wild ride. This picture was taken at only 3500msl. If I had climbed, I could have seen larger numbers but the trip too short to warrant that. I kind of wish I had turned around and flown a backwards ground track. I have never done that before. On return home the winds made for a non-boring crosswind landing... :)
http://jeffreykersey.com/IMG_3131.jpg
TShort
02-26-2019, 09:10 AM
Rejoined the club on the way back from IA yesterday:
https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7885/32277424867_d99240f365_c.jpg
Rough math shows 278mph, over 20mpg - and I don't have my injectors balanced yet and wasn't really leaned for efficiency.
Not bad for a 4 seat traveling machine that hauls whatever I stuff in it!
Gee that's a very high engine RPM? I almost feel sorry for your donk:D
TShort
02-26-2019, 08:17 PM
Gee that's a very high engine RPM? I almost feel sorry for your donk:D
Haha - I had to google that, my Australian is a bit rusty!
I was running fast, just for the purposes of maximizing TAS to see how far into the 200kt club I could get. Max RPM for the IO-540 in the -10 is 2700...
n700jl
02-27-2019, 04:55 AM
Congratulations! For a minute there I thought I was going to need to start the 300MPH club! Fantastic planes and Wonderful Tailwinds. Very Impressive!
Carlos151
03-04-2019, 01:45 PM
As most of you know, joining the 200kt club in our machines is a regular occurrence. I was just out playing last week and with these crazy winds we've been having in the TN valley, I recorded my fastest and slowest ground speeds in level flight yet, with not a whole lot of effort.
FAST:
http://i63.tinypic.com/9sgw1x.jpg
SLOW:
http://i67.tinypic.com/2nv9zd0.jpg
Haha love that, 15 kts, to a yachty that's fast👍:)
Greenley
04-17-2019, 10:35 AM
Flying MI to Vermont over Canada and picked up a nice tailwind. Fastest I have seen in my newly finished RV10.
http://andrews.edu/~greenley/GS235.jpg
Jonathan Alvord
04-27-2019, 08:01 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/HL332Syr/IMG-5971.jpghttp://https://photos.google.com/album/AF1QipMvT0GHdpJi2KdmA5V6LfYuX3_YQ049u4GGiaFz/photo/AF1QipOhX_R8Fd2LknkpC4rFoNfPpew-GdmqIMl7OLNnhttp://https://photos.google.com/album/AF1QipMvT0GHdpJi2KdmA5V6LfYuX3_YQ049u4GGiaFz/photo/AF1QipOhX_R8Fd2LknkpC4rFoNfPpew-GdmqIMl7OLNn
Flying from Nehalem Bay to Prosser Washington, hit 255mph GS cruising at 11,500, and then snapped this photo which had 249 just after starting decent to Prosser.
tommylewis
06-03-2019, 10:56 AM
On Friday afternoon on our last leg from TX to NH, about 90 west of Nashua, we had a nice quartering tail wind at 9500 when we had to deviate left to avoid
building clouds. When we turned back the tailwind aligned perfectly to give us
a 200 knot ground speed. Shortly after when the vsr got to 400 and we started down we got to 207. Nice flight.
https://i405.photobucket.com/albums/pp138/tommy1lewis/N143EB/57003EEF-4F1F-4EA6-98AC-90ED4FE479B9.jpeg
Saw 217 kts GS the other day at 9500'. 173 TAS so was operating in the yellow arc mindful of any turbulence. That was at 32Lph, pretty good speed for that FF:)
The highest I've ever driven a plane was 645 kts GS, ahh the good old days, now retired loving the dream:)
sbalmos
10-13-2019, 07:22 PM
What I thought was going to be highly improbable to achieve and left to the more-powerful RVs happened this past Saturday. Took advantage of a crisp, cold fall day, grabbed my oxygen, and went searching for my 9A's service ceiling. I didn't quite make it there - an air gap between my canopy skirt and the fuse was making for quite a chilly cockpit, even with heat. 21F made for some frosty hands!
But I made it in the 200kt club! That was one heck of an incredible tailwind I got when I turned to take advantage of it. :eek: Probably would've been even faster if I kept climbing. WOT here at 15k and the climb rate was still at least 400fpm at 90 KIAS when I leveled out. And this is on a typical 3-blade Catto FP, not repitched or anything, and 150 HP engine. Now I'm getting impressed at where the -9 likes to live, going multi-state cross country.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/mtCTfMVidQJ43nl7I8JpFkKcPsr6edCMubFJR-KlAvTHtru8bOKQgIgPeqbxHMjVoTyScAxKZNjblJJZezgan-kztjn8RBxBaW1L7V97lgTSdR1HPifgll2mcgTNkfc-yvA3cHpMXNr3VhDWK10yjRbRE2IrA33BY9xNRAi8Ai4y8bT0Ny qj2B0MgboK7CxK3cmyuVc58Vy5oEkN79kQtI_t5p3eoTrKrmGI S1SumWGj2fHMllIPpsgeSAXC5iHatELAgwB2Uj7wHKFwaYuKW4 q6lbb52X0VhU51nuyKGZsYirQiJC3qU4QD-5-5qryCRipNbvFhB_e_5pq0NFq9Y1MGcMyuXcVVffX8R6bidAa1e Ds_6qiq3-ORQ1Ax5h9paM4SbuTYe1ESBSmtusUs_Oqqzds0JBdn0DDkqZl3 dxdORJWNwPQiNhMriMiWaD3eJmvCjCgJtaT5VsYUllht8si9FC WkhhwcRJQlUXMoItvMN9M_yIslYRyInXKz4pQe7kLT8HsVbufz ix6ANLPhnaQKD0v7OInY3WwEOBhLK9cl4y3KPJeLW6raGdGvjI sSKIm2t-RqJ24_HWX3Y0gyWDNzUaXfqcA9cPqawLCDycX0tt0j7v1K3NFC gHwr0zQsdd56SCPRkPdKCRU-irL5uwCAK3aOpnMQWq-X4nZ0p_YAA35bn6N-UFg6ynCF1s8o3qUfvqKUryfiUQdyOJyZXbx6YG0wIyYgCTuIJx hdoa5r6_Di=w1069-h802-no
bjdecker
10-15-2019, 09:10 AM
Cruising back from a lunch run over central Texas. Smooth as glass with ~40kts on the tail.
http://distractedpilot.com/1475.bmp
Plummit
11-03-2019, 02:54 PM
Coming back from Big Bear this morning:
http://halie.com/scale/25/oFb.jpg
mikerkba
11-04-2019, 09:13 PM
First time to claim 210 knots in the RV8A: on my way home from HSF (north of Reno) to Ely on October 19. Across the state of Nevada, 1.5 hours flight. I observed 207 kt GS on the Advanced Flight EFIS. But flightaware was looking when I wasn't and shows a hit at 210 knots.
I don't upload pics to VAF but the flight track show I was actually in a slight climb at the time of 210 knots. The track ends shortly after due to limited radar coverage in the eastern part of our state.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N4032Q/history/20191019/1832Z/tracklog
Zoom zoom baby, bring it!
Coming back from Big Bear this morning:
http://halie.com/scale/25/oFb.jpg
I took my PPL check ride at LGB. I was flying out of Meadowlark (L16) in Huntington Beach, just south of the SLI VOR. Can't believe it's been closed and turned into a shopping center and subdivision for 30 years now.
kcameron
11-05-2019, 06:40 PM
http://www.cameron.com/~kcameron/rv-4/Pics/2012-05-23/IMAG0066_lores.jpg
partner14
12-01-2019, 10:06 AM
I hate to post this because I was flying on 48% power with the following setting: 2220rpm, 1/2 throttle, climbing at 250fpm, 15,480'. IAS = 153mph, TAS = 197mph, Ground Speed (GPS) = 265kts, or 305mph, wind speed = 110mph.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3549873565037675&set=gm.2516372998483784&type=3&eid=ARCHFLVD-qjj4dHFiwsPC3baWjKRRIgonTQpvMZUbiK5JOhOKu9Jve8A9QR sfeXTPDFPihg3G9XqrLsx&ifg=1
NewbRVator
12-01-2019, 10:53 AM
I missed the photo op. Had smooth cookin' uppers and hit 200 kts. By the time I got my camera and snapped I was at 194kts GS level at 12.5k elev.
If I had oxygen I could of hit 220kts that day as the uppers were fast and smooth.
titanhank
01-12-2020, 05:42 PM
4500ft doing 174ktas
https://i.postimg.cc/RZR9cVc1/20-F1-F293-D46-B-4489-812-B-E14-B08-FA5294.jpg
ALagonia
01-12-2020, 07:04 PM
I was too excited and forgot to take a pic of my EFIS. On December 31 at 9,000? burning 7.2 gph my 9 hit 215 kts. flying from 1A3 to KSFB.
AviatorJ
02-04-2020, 10:21 AM
Went up the other day and noticed a strong went so decided to make it a tail wind!
https://i.postimg.cc/rDSmqCXS/IMG-2035.jpg (https://postimg.cc/rDSmqCXS)
ALagonia
02-04-2020, 06:40 PM
I hit 203 kts yesterday at 6,500? in my 9 with an O-360 engine mated to a three blade Catto prop. How cool.
krw5927
03-11-2020, 06:32 AM
Finally joined the club yesterday at 5000' in my 9A with a nice tailwind :D
https://i.postimg.cc/SsYrJDVJ/screenshot-N425-KW-SN03969-15-4-7-5568-20200310-182708-209-en-US.png
Denok
03-11-2020, 12:50 PM
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ubCSwrL44oMt8BZT_V4foCJXyJcGGS_mvRwQy5vxoTZA-CxWQ4mZQdN5-zDNVeLbWQADFV_XOE9EaGy6mVTRTrTDl36AvuY_o5LdLElWj8m JpbGvqzgpsd804TVtuvVvCQ_WNjlktMripP3pvcxeIQr6xjN6G CMkhGnaDsMunWXZpYblPkEozMyXX-5NT4xgm_RhmjT2H_IAaoHAeJ9hqvkIp9vA0fK3nwwv5SGbKl3e 5kcd_SMfEnDnC0Bttu_kMXSznE4bS94GPrLEFVhz0_zs0g-OdfNiX9DgKhqawWZGKak1FfnL7_eldmlDxQ08dXJaTzO69LKGs jFhVCUAYpmgSMw70F8P1JTPob27cWcEH0_if-FuYTDCgjF783cXWWU8iEJ4SfAXSFnDaTm8fhfdTb-yv3yxwpF7Swv5lT36hVSjZHA0coumuPi2IAp01Nwx8DL4ezXVs wtl3vru2MfyEAzkA5stGBDpD4ViiFX3y-m_cYt8YdBkaAlEISwjAgDS7FMnikBR3KHD9XeWBawXqFBe5VxF Z0E-9O5zIKazHhaSP6SKYkpXh9HkH3TrossASCM37jbBR3c6WaU14k AYq36eTj_GzFHY807sWjWt0HvdKpTLA20a7JtdFT_ghKq81PRx nH7DqcFuzu2HjtmDMNwQbqfM3dqR-XcPa6aO3LgPq8ezqEE=w1380-h777-no
Every flight in my F1 is in the 200 Knot club!
Ed_Wischmeyer
03-12-2020, 01:09 PM
Even a fabric covered J-3 is in the two hundred knot club, if you look at the fabric and count.
roadrunner20
04-26-2020, 05:48 PM
Joined the 200kt club while on a Pilots n Paws mission.
https://i.imgur.com/tYoOkHp.jpg
KJBSouth
05-09-2020, 09:10 AM
Thursday 5/7 on the second leg of a relocation from Michigan to Florida, RV7 N50KB joined the club; 215 kts ground speed!
There was a 72 kt tailwind component while cruising on 59% power at 14,500 ft msl.
http://bambas.com/aviation/photos/200kt EFIS.jpg
The 25kt crosswind component caused the 7 deg. crab to the West.
The personal intermediate fix (USR00) was set to take the route around a restricted area.
http://bambas.com/aviation/photos/200kt GTN625.jpg
I had set up a VNV profile to descend to 1100 ft ten miles before the KBKV destination. The GTN computed this to start in 53:40 minutes.
http://bambas.com/aviation/photos/200kt MFD.jpg
247mph and 9.9gph = 24.9 miles per gallon.
PS: Do I need GAMI injectors?
roadrunner20
05-09-2020, 12:01 PM
Thursday 4/7 on the second leg of a relocation from Michigan to Florida, RV7 N50KB joined the club; 215 kts ground speed!
There was a 72 kt tailwind component while cruising on 59% power at 14,500 ft msl.
247mph and 9.9gph = 24.9 miles per gallon.
PS: Do I need GAMI injectors?
Wow! Welcome to the club. We've been getting some strong southbound tailwinds here recently. Welcome back to Florida. We'll have to get together at KBKV, since there's no Oshkosh this year. At least, we have cheap fuel. $2.60/gl.
KJBSouth
05-09-2020, 02:51 PM
Thanks Dan,
I'd like to hear more about your Pilots-N-Paws activity. Maybe do some of it myself if it wouldn't cut into your game. How does it work, etc.
edclee
05-09-2020, 04:34 PM
Just bought an RV9A and on the way back from Yakima WA to Lancaster SC, had this for speed over the top of the 12,500' Class B ceiling at Atlanta GA. Oh well, dont know yet how to get pics to work. It was 244 mph Ground speed.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/ovL18YNw8iMWi1gW7
sailvi767
05-10-2020, 06:38 AM
Over NC yesterday there was 50 knots of wind out of the west at 8500 feet. Sadly I was going West! Faced with a smooth ride and big headwind or bumpy ride and 35 knot speed gain. Picked the bumps!
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roadrunner20
05-10-2020, 01:23 PM
Thanks Dan,
I'd like to hear more about your Pilots-N-Paws activity. Maybe do some of it myself if it wouldn't cut into your game. How does it work, etc.
Sent you a PM on Pilots n Paws. We can always use more pilots.