$25/yr on the honor system.

List of 2015 donators HERE.

What is suggested:
$25 yearly around the time of your birthday.  Any amount, however small, is appreciated.  Having said that, you might be exempt.

Daughter's College Updates
(a.k.a. Tracking your investment)

Our daughter Audrey's SMU-themed VAF cap, safety glasses and lab coat.   A. Reeves photo.

In the lab...

Dec 2014:
Audrey's fall grades are in:  3.8 overall (3.9 in her major)

Nov 2014:
Audrey currently has a 3.9 GPA at SMU.

Sept 2014:
Yesterday we got a text from our daughter Audrey, a sophomore at SMU majoring in Biochemistry, saying she starts training for a lab job this coming Wednesday.  The Lippert Research Group (web link) is working with chemiluminescence in the body.  She will start out helping to analyze chemicals found in saliva to look for trends between stress and depression.  Some of the other research involves using widely available smart phone technology, for example an iPhone's camera, to test for lung cancer.

Summer 2014:
  Freshman year GPA calculated: 3.896

12/16/2013: Tracking Your Investment
...Audrey Reeves Fall 2013 grades.  1 semester down.....7 to go!  3.85 GPA after her first semester at SMU.


Why I don't fly much, or go to fly-ins, and flew 25 hrs last year (less this year)

  Regular 'ol Cashflow 101.  Daughter in college.  The current plan is biochemistry major / world languages minor at SMU, most likely with graduate school. In other words, more expensive than our house.  No, 'm not doing OSH, or SnF, or really anything for the next ten years. And I'm OK w/it.
  I can pretty much guarantee that if you send in a donation over the next few years, it will be spent on helping this wonderful young woman become a productive member of society. Then we start it with the Tater....

1996 w/tail kit.

Senior portrait

Latest Reeves Family News:
   Two pages of notes from our daughter's freshman Biology class at SMU.  She did this at home on a Saturday "pre-studying".  [ed. I can pinpoint the moment when I realized my daughter was smarter than me.  It was seeing these...  dr]


How to Donate(you might be exempt, read on....)


About Donating, Described In One Sentence
Pay only if you read/use VAF - our family will convert that money into groceries, electricity, health insurance payments (which went up $2,400/yr in 2014), college tuition (daughter in college) and more.

In One Paragraph
Is this site, and its forums, part of your regular internet scan?  All our family is asking is that you pay for the goods and services you regularly use by sending in a yearly honor system donation of $25 - an amount less than (1) cup of Starbucks a month.  This site is a small business in every sense of the word (one employee), and this one family has everything riding on it.  We're not going to flood you with emails, snail mail, or pop-up ads.  Bandwidth, servers (and raising a family) isn't free.  To those who donate, thank you.

PLEASE do not start threads in the forums along the lines of 'People should donate!'  Donate if you think VAF is a good product, don't if you don't.  God Bless You either way.  Thank you.  dr


  • VAF is our family's stab at American Small Business.  It provides about 95% of our family's total income.  As far as I know, I'm planet Earth's only full-time Van's RV online community provider.
  • Our family has entered 'the college years'.
  • Ads on the site do not pull in what you might suspect.  I WISH I made what some folks on the internet think I do.  It always cracks me up to read occasionally on other boards how some guy has a problem with me asking for donations.  Funny how most of the time those guy's I.P. addresses resolve to this site on nearly a daily basis.  I guess they think the servers and bandwidth are given to me out of the goodness of my internet provider's heart, and that groceries magically appear in my kitchen. ;^) 
  • Over the 17 years this site has been online in various forms, best I can calculate is I've spent over $120,000 bringing it to you.
  • Between April 2000 and June 2014 I pushed out over 3,500 M-F daily editions of the site.
  • No fly-ins or events attended this year (or last) or planned for foreseeable future.  Family expenses first.

Food for Thought

Kindly imagine walking up to the magazine rack inside a bookstore, and grabbing one off the shelf - one targeting the Van's RV community.  One that is published over (250) times a year.  You do this every weekday for a year, never paying once.  The pages have ads, because without them, magazines fail.  One day, an employee of the store asks you if you've enjoyed the last 12 months of magazines.  "Absolutely!", you say.  They then suggest that if you've received value from these that you make a donation of $25.

If I just did advertisers only, or just donations, I'd have declared bankruptcy long ago.  A few of the smaller mom 'n pop advertisers here have had to close up shop and/or curtail their advertising budget in order to stay in business in this down economy.  Donations are more important than ever. 

I hope you will adhere to my wish that folks NOT start threads in the forums along the lines of 'People should donate!'.  It's very important to me that this site raise funds the EXACT OPPOSITE WAY thousands of organizations do it.  I'd ask that you simply read this entire page once a year or so, ask yourself if you think you are my target audience, and decide for yourself.  Tip: Several folks use their birthday as a when-to-donate reminder, and some others edit their auto-signature in the forums to list the month they donated.

I'll never put a single thing in your inbox or mailbox asking for money.  Ever.

●  Jump right to the How to Donate Money section.

Perception vs Reality:

  • Perception: I work an hour each morning, then spend the rest of the day napping on a pile of cash.
    Reality: That would be awesome, but it's not really what happens. 
    In 2007 I bet my house and family's future on the success of this web site - just before the start of one of the worst economic meltdowns in our country's history.  So, I pretty much spend every waking second trying to market it and make it better.  Unless I'm asleep, I rarely go more than an hour without sitting down at the computer.  Not having a commute and self-employed means you're working three minutes after you wake up, as well as sixty seconds before your head hits the pillow.  I work every evening, seven days a week.   Even Christmas.
  • Perception: We are rich.
    Reality: We are not. 
    There is no other paycheck...just this site, and it is
    enormously expensive and time consuming to run.  I thank God every single day for the advertisers and donators that have helped keep it afloat.
  • Perception: You can take off work whenever you want.
    Reality:  Good one.
  • Perception: This site will be online forever.
    Reality: Maybe.
    The intent from the beginning was to 'virtually' feed the soul of the ten year old kid still inside each of us that wants to fly more than just about anything else.  You held your hand out the car window as a kid and pretended it was a wing.  You had a cardboard box in your room with a control stick and drawings of instruments on one side, and you sat in it pretending you were upside down over the mountaintops.  You watched every single airplane that flew over your house with rapt, unwavering attention.  Me too. 

    I've taken great pains over the last decade to duplicate some of those feelings here.  To convey the dream and promise of RV flight, a sense of happiness, of accomplishment, of motivation, of friendship, of caring, of compassion wrapped in a
    Christian, positive, civil tone.  In other words, the exact opposite of most websites on the planet these days.  But sadly, the banker man doesn't care much for these uplifting emotions.  The stone cold, brutal reality (the point I need to drive home) is that unless a certain number of regular readers donate $25 yearly, the site will go dark and I'll go get a technology job somewhere to better support my family.  It's a simple matter of cash flow.  I do love airplanes, and especially RVs, but my family comes first.  Always.  If you are one of the regulars, PLEASE donate yearly.  It literally means the difference between the site staying and going away.


How To Send in Your Yearly $25 Donation
I prefer donations in the order below.  However you decide to donate, even if it's a bag of pennies,

1. Cash
(a Jackson and a Lincoln wrapped in some scrap paper with your name on it).
Simple bookkeeping, no middleman fees and instantly ready to go back into the economy at the businesses that offer our family cash discounts - farmer's market, gas station, restaurants, doctor (5%), dentist (10%), optometrist (10%), clothes, etc...you'd be surprised.  Even got an auto parts store to give me a cash discount on brake pads.  As a 1-person small business fighting the good fight for capitalism and the free market, anything that doesn't require a trip to a bank, fees or a time period to wait for funds to clear makes me want to do back flips.

Please consider sending cash first.

     mailing address:
Delta Romeo, LLC.
     P.O. Box 270321
     Flower Mound, TX 75027-0321

2. Check made out to 'Delta Romeo, LLC' (if you're in the USA)

     mailing address:
Delta Romeo, LLC.
     P.O. Box 270321
     Flower Mound, TX 75027-0321

3. Credit Card


*Why does VAF use an honor system business model?

Exempt from Donating:
picture courtesy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jointcolors.jpg

  • any United States citizen who has EVER been in no-shit, bullets coming at you combat.  You know who you are, and I will never be able to thank you enough for protecting my way of life.  Please enjoy the site free for the rest of your life.
  • anyone currently serving in the United States Armed Forces
  • police officers (past or present)
  • current Kindergarten thru grade 12 teachers.
  • firefighters (salaried or volunteer - past or present)
  • anyone employed by Van's Aircraft
  • anyone acting as a moderator in the forums
  • My Mother-in-law.
  • anybody currently unemployed
  • the (2) renters at 'theVanCave'

The simplest explanation I can offer is because it's less work for everyone involved, it keeps the non-corporate vibe intact, and it helps preserve my sanity.  Forcing anyone to pay just to view or post introduces another colossal layer of complexity, and changes the vibe.  Hello unintended consequences.  I WANT this site to be different from everything else.  The non-corporate vibe thing is very important to me - it has to do with the 10-yr old inner child in me that I want to protect.

Also, when I have to go look up my username and password for some website just to see a dang site, I want to put a shoe through the monitor.  I vowed to never make this site be that. 

Three more reasons...

First, as a United States citizen who is VERY appreciative of those who defend(ed) my freedoms, the 'exempt from donating' category at left is of primary importance to me.  Who would setup and maintain the list of thousands of free combat veteran accounts?  How do you verify their credentials? This all implies employees, and an office, and status meetings, and peer reviews, and a thousand other things that a) gets us off topic and b) killed large parts of my soul in a previous corporate life.  I'd have to charge much more to cover the increased overhead, just so I could net the same amount.  It becomes an episode of ‘The Office’ every day. Thank you, but no. I do it this way for my own simplistic, sanity-preserving reasons.

Second, it releases me from the ‘I paid my money so this is the direction I expect you to go with the site’ back and forth. If you don’t feel you got $25 in value during the past 12 months, don’t pay.  On the other hand, if you visit often, post, saved or earned money on something in the classifieds, don't fit in one of the exempt categories and still choose not to pay, well, I don't even know what to say to that.  I'm sure your parents are real proud of what you've become.


Q: Ever hear how copper
     wire was invented?

A: Two pilots got in a fight
     over a penny.


Third, this honor system business model allows those who are on the fence regarding getting into the hobby to virtually ride along, for years if that’s what it takes. The soft sell approach gets people involved in the hobby and sells kits.  Having to pay just to see what’s inside right there at the beginning, right when you're just getting interested, is a major buzzkill.

Thanks to those that ‘pay their tab.’

Things I'll never do with VAF:
You'll never have to click through a pop-up ad to see any page.  There will never be an ad that moves your screen over to the side and starts talking to you.  When you go to the front page, it won't start singing, or dancing around, or try to get you to buy some car or cable service.  You'll never have to login just to see the dang story.  I'll never start a VAF wine club, or put together a VAF lawn tractor discount.  It's focused only on RVs and the people who fly and build them.

$2.08 a month.   I don't think anyone can argue that isn't an outstanding value!

2014 Donation lists:  Cash/Check - Credit Card
2013 Donations: 2,624 (cash/check - credit card)
2012 Donations
(previous years:  2011 | 2010 | 2009 | 2008)

Those who donate are in the running for prizes that I pick in spurts.   It can range from a $30 gift certificate to something worth over a grand.*

Thank you for supporting our family's small business,

Doug Reeves (and family)


Monthly Prize Winners
Once a month (or so), we pick a winner from those that have donated during the current year.  .

Jan '09
Howie Hilliker
Feb '09
James Brown
Mar '09
David Sheridan
Apr '09
Darwin Barrie
May '09
Don Olandese
Jun '09
James Swanson
Jul '09
Paul Eckenroth
Aug '09
Craig Bennett
Sep '09
Jeff M Jacques
Oct '09
Lyle Clarkson
Nov '09
Gordon Porter
Dec '09
John Paulich
Jan '10
Bernhard Daenzer
Feb '10
Paul Whaley
Mar '10
James Kinsey
Apr '10
Allen Checca
May '10
Marc Hudson
Jun '10
Jeff Coutant
Jul '10
Joseph R. Ross
Aug '10
Edward Martin
Sep  '10
Robert Gordon
Oct '10
Rick Galati
Nov '10
Mark Morlino
Dec '10
Gary Slatt (Hummelstown, PA)
Jan '11
H. Clay Phillips
Edgewood, NM
Feb '11
William Brock
$30 Avery Tool Gift Certificate
Mar '11
Stan Smith
$30 Avery Tool Gift Certificate
Apr '11
Benjamin Krotje
$30 Avery Tool Gift Certificate
May '11
Rupert Clarke
$30 Avery Tool Gift Certificate
Jun '11
William Cloughley
$30 Avery Tool Gift Certificate
Jul '11
Mark Thorne
$30 Avery Tool Gift Certificate
Aug '11
Grover Rogers
$30 Avery Tool Gift Certificate
Sep '11
Berchmans Wick
$30 Avery Tool Gift Certificate
Oct '11
Dennis Glaeser
$30 Avery Tool Gift Certificate
Nov '11
Lars Margolies

$30 Avery Tool Gift Certificate
Dec '11
Mark Albery
Garmin aera 560

The 2012 VAF Prize Winners ($50 gift cert from Van's Aircraft)

Stuart McIntosh Lauren Munro Alain Van Severen
Richard Pedersen Tim Andres Fredrik Diehl
Darren Lucke Kliff Black Neal Howard
Kenneth Broussard Roger Evenson Scott Brega

Lifetime Donators:
(eligible for
monthly prizes for as long as I do the site  - worked out a barter deal with something I was hunting for...)
 - Clements, Jon
 - Dalton, David
 - Karpayev, Vlad
 - Redmond, Robert  10yrs
 - Rosales, Paul
 - Schoen, William
 - Settle, Curtis (Bill)
 - Thorne, Mark
 - Webster, Tom

*In the 'You're Not Going To Believe This' Category:

I appreciate the resourcefulness of sending me some insignificantly small amount in order to get your name on the list of contributors.  Having said that, I only actually list and consider those names of people who donated at least $25.  In other words, if you didn't donate at least $25 your name will not appear on the site as someone who donated. 

Yes.....it's happened...by a couple of people with 1,000+ forum posts.  Actually, they each used a credit card to send ten cents.  What they don't realize is that PayPal took the entire ten cents for their processing fee, so in reality they just spent a few minutes typing in their credit card information for nothing.  Well, they did spend some of their money....just not on me.