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February 9, 2016.  0005Z.   Issue No. 4,048.

Seen at the airport...

....a good idea for getting air and lights off the ground.


Post Deployment help needed

Q: Hello VAF!

I'm getting home from an all expense paid four month vacation to the Middle East on Saturday. I was excited to get back into my RV-8 to go fly home until I found out that the plane wasn't used while I was away. Long story short, the plane hasn't been flown in at least two months and the weather has been very cold! Fortunately, it was in a hanger the whole time.

Bottom line, what do I need to do to make sure the engine is safe to fly? When I left, there was only about 15 hours on a fresh oil change.

Thank you for your time!

RV-8A Owner

A:  Change the oil and go fly after a very thorough pre-flight and ground run.

A:  Don't spend one minute fretting over it not flying for 2 months.

A:  Since the oil was relatively new, and if you parked it hot (oil had been up to 180 or so) then the acids would be quite low and being parked a non issue.

A:  Thorough preflight, let the engine come up to temp and go fly it.

A:  ...it is better for the engine to set than to ground run it.

A:  Heck, I've left an RV-8 sitting untouched for longer than that and I see it every day!

A:  ...don't sweat the couple months of it sitting.


Video- Flying down the coast --Australia (Perth)


Fiberglass Fun


From the mothership...


Status Report: Autopilot Servo Pic ...David Paule


What Have I Done Wrong? ...K Edmunds -14

Q: I have made it the step 8-12 on the empanage and am starting to cleco the HS spar together. My experience has been if it doesnt go totgether i did something wrong. It has happened a couple of times. So right now I am battling with the HS Stringer Web Assembly aligning properly with the spar.

These parts obviously don't line up the way they should.

A: Back up to page 08-09.  Note that the flanges on the stringers go the opposite direction (aft) than the flanges on the web (fwd).


Ski slope ...Vlad



February 8, 2016.  0400Z.   Issue No. 4,047.
  Congrats to the Denver Broncos and their fans!  Great game!  No flying this weekend, but Tate and I went out to the airport so he could practice parallel parking in my soon-to-be-his truck.  Those are Smokey Ray's old kitchen chairs <g>.  Life w/an RV sometimes means using the taxiway for other things. ;^)  He did great!
  Hope you had a nice weekend and your Monday goes well.


First flight N16GN ...Greg Niehues RV-9A

After 5 delays for various reasons, the weather was decent and the requisite family members and friends were present, and N16GN finally slipped the surly bonds! I bent the first metal in January of 2008, and I've got 1895 hours in the build so far, with the wheel pants and gear fairings still to go.  continue


Year 2015 recap ...Shawn Li video

I had great fun in my RV7 in year 2015, flew about 130 hrs in it (I know that is not an impressive number, but the fun factor is high , including the first trip to Oshikosh in my own plane. Here is a short version of recap. There are a lot of rides that I don't have picture or video of, I will do a better job to capture the fun in 2016.


Colorado Winter Flight ...Joe Zuffoletto RV-8


Cedar Mills Update ...Chris Pratt

Hurray -- my favorite restaurant and landing spot is reopened. Looks as good as new.  more


DIY Painting Update Pics ....Steve Melton


Milestone ...Charlie Derk RV-10

Elevator Finally Finished!  This has been the most time consuming piece so far... probably the most frustrating too!


Dick Bangsund RV-12 Status



February 5, 2016.  0003Z.   Issue No. 4,046.
  Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend.

"I was tinkering with the GoPro on a gorgeous winter
day in western Maryland recently and came
up with this . . .Happy 2016!"  -- Dave Hirschman

When did you first see / hear of an RV?

  • Bill R. - It was in 1988, my wife and I were taking a tower tour at SNA along with another young couple. They had just started building an RV-4 and we're rightfully very excited and told us all about it. I sure wish I had taken him up on his offer to look at his project.
  • Claude Pitre - I first heard of RV's when I saw it modelled in Microsoft Flight, 4 years ago. Beautiful RV-6A in that short lived flight simulator.

    3 years later (Feb 2015) I saw (flew in/flew) my first RV, it just so happened to be the exact plane that the Microsoft Flight version was modelled after, same paint scheme, same registration number. This was at the Axsys Air builder course in Washington.
  • Vern Darley - Seeing Van and the RV-3 at the Oshkosh was it for me plus reading about it in various periodicals. At that time, tube and fabric planes were still the rage
  • Terry Ruprecht - Saw my first RV on my first trip to OSH in 2003. I was blown away by the quality and finish of them. Like most of The Masses, I previously assumed "homebuilt" aircraft were built with bubble gum, bailing wire, and old lawnmower parts. Til that moment at OSH, I never dreamed an amateur-built aircraft could be so gorgeous. I was so struck, I created a simple chronological to-do list when I got home ...a) ground school at the local community college, b) FAA medical, c) flight training, d) order the first RV sub-kit - once I had my ticket in hand. Praise the Lord, it all worked out. Been flying my aluminum sweetheart now for 3 1/2 yrs
  • Joe Zuffoletto - I first learned about RV's when I bought my Mooney Acclaim in September, 2011. I had never heard of or seen a Vans aircraft before that. The Mooney seller also owned an RV-8 and he took me for a ride in it. I instantly fell in love with the 8 and spent the next year and a half trying to find one that was built right. The effort paid off in May, 2013 when I found my gorgeous 8 on the other side of the country.

    The Mooney seller warned me that if I bought an 8 I'd fly it more than the Acclaim. He was right!
  • Vlad - I started researching kit aircrafts around 2005. Spent my first Oshkosh looking and calculating. I am glad I chose Vans. Couldn't imagine how I would build and enjoy flying something else.
  • John Goodloe - I saw my first RV at Oshkosh 1980, when I saw the RV-4 prototype. I thought it was the coolest home built ever. I still have a copy of 'Kit Planes' magazine from 1980's where the RV-4 was on the cover. I ordered RV-4 plans (s/n 424?) and a tail kit in 1982. As they say life got in the way and I never got to build my RV-4.

    Jump ahead 25 years or so and I was finally ready to build, by then the RV-8 was aviable and it better suited my typical mission. So after and extended build time with a SLOW build kit, I finally have my RV. My RV-8 has been flying for just over six years. I could not ask for a more wonderful airplane!
  • Dan Langhout - Around 2005-2006 I was searching for information on home-made paint booths online. Google search came up with portions of Sam Buchanan's web site about his RV-6 build. Had never hear of RV's before (the flying kind) and had never really thought seriously about EAB planes before that.
  • Sam Buchanan - I was at a grass strip in 1992 looking at a Fisher Super Koala because I was about to start building mine. A little low-wing plane started buzzing the area at a very high rate of speed and I was told "that is (can't remember the name...) in his RV-3".

    A couple of years later I saw 2-3 RVs at Sun-N-Fun. But it was in 1997 when I saw my friend Mark's RV-4 going together that the RV really got my attention. It was obvious the RV was a "real airplane" as opposed to some scary odd-ball homebuilt. Then hangar-mate Robin started his RV-8 and I had to join the party in October 1997 with my RV-6 project.

    It has been quite a ride!


RV8 Gas run video ...Ed Soderblom video

Thought I would post this video to take you along on a flight to go get some fuel at BLI from a private strip called Meadowmist. The gopro is strapped to my hat in the attempt to put you in the drivers seat while I run my mouth a bit.


Eagle’s Nest Projects – A busy week at the McKinney Aviation Academy

...Phil Campbell words/pics

The students at McKinney Aviation Academy are having a very busy week with their Eagle’s Nest Project RV-12!

The McKinney Aviation Academy is comprised of students from all three McKinney, Texas High Schools – McKinney North High School, McKinney High School and McKinney Boyd High School

In addition to supplementing the student’s STEM curriculum, Eagle’s Nest Projects goal is to enhance the students’ pride in their school and to encourage community involvement.

We all know, general aviation is shrinking. With barbed wire topped fences, cameras, access controlled gates and no trespassing signs, for a youngster, getting to the airport can be daunting. Where do they start?

Well at Eagle’s Nest Projects we take the airplane to the kids!  continue



February 4, 2016.  0001Z.   Issue No. 4,045.

Ethan Beswick 9A ...welcome

Hello All-

Being that I am relatively new to VAF and have recently started a RV-9 project, I thought it might be appropriate that I begin a thread to document my build progress. I purchased a partially completed emp. kit towards the end of last year, and I have since completed work on the H.S., V.S. and I am now in the final stages of completing the rudder and right elevator. I have found a wealth of information here, and I am extremely grateful for this site (Thanks Doug!). Progress will be relatively slow as I plan to complete the emp. kit, then take a bit of a building hiatus while I attend grad school.

Some pictures of the beginning stages:

That's all for now, but I look forward to the journey and posting updates as I go...


Step repair/reinforcement service offered. WD-657-R & L ...Russ McCutcheon

As you know or may not know I build these steps for Van’s, we have built these from the beginning. I am in no way interested in pointing the finger of blame at anyone for the steps that have cracked or broken, not Van’s not myself and not you guys. This service is offered to try and give a solution for those that have a problem or anticipate a problem with their step/steps, that’s all.

After looking at the steps on Van’s airplanes and repairing/reinforcing a couple of steps a couple of different ways I have decided to offer the same or very similar reinforcement to what Van’s has employed on their airplanes.

The price will be $30 per step, $60 for a set. The step can be new or it can be used and cracked, even broken off so long as you have both pieces.

The plan is you send in your step/steps (with paint removed) in a box with a check for payment and a paid return shipping label.

Don’t send it in yet, I need to order the gussets from the laser cutter first, they are ready to go but I need an idea of the number to order before we get going. Send me an e-mail russmccutcheon@gmail.com letting me know what you want, right, left or both steps, when we are ready in a couple of weeks I’ll tell you to start sending them in, in the order you e-mailed me.


Want your RV-6/6A in Kitplanes?


Status Report: Cowl Mods ...crabandy

I've been gone for a couple days, just so happened I was in a window seat just forward of the engine. When takeoff power was applied fog/vapor was forming around the inboard edge of the inlet until approximately 60 knts. I'm guessing the engine was sucking air from behind the lip until airspeed was delivering the correct amount of air, at that point it was spilling over the sides. Unfortunately I didn't get my phone out fast enough to take a pic of the vapor/fog.



...a bunch of Ed Hicks photos of the RV-14A


Review my panel ideas ...two renderings



February 3, 2016.  0053Z.   Issue No. 4,044.

First rivets!! Guess I'm a builder now ...David Randall of Jamestown, NY

After a lot of practice on scrap pieces I dove in yesterday and squeezed my first real rivets. My wife is gonna get sick of me running around going "look what I made". The kit I bought had the wings started and am at the point in the instructions where the tanks are to be done. No way do I want those to be the first major thing I do on the kit so I'll probably rivet the leading edges first. These aileron brackets looked simple enough so here ya go.


Team Aerodynamix Light installation ...Anthony Greco pictures

I have received so much information on this site that I wanted to give back by showing how I cut leading edge lighting into my plane.

When I bought my 6A it had a small dent in the outer portion of the right leading edge in the second bay. Hangar rash for sure from something bumping it. The plane had no nav lighting at all- so my mission was to add nav/strobes and landing/taxi lights.  continue


The Adirondacks ...Vlad pictures

Passed by the Adirondacks the other day.


More on Rob Hickman's 'EFIS Still'

While technically this is not RV related I will try and make a connection. My micro-brewery is located in our hangar along with my RV-10 and yes it is using an AF-5600 EFIS to control it. We live on Dietz Airpark (OR40) just east of Van's and just over a year ago two of my neighbors Rion and Mary (both RV-4 owners) started brewing beer. After watching Rion and Mary brew a few batches of IPA in their shiny new conical fermenter I decided that this looked like way too much fun. You need to understand that Oregon is the center of the micro-brewery world and we take our IPA very seriously. After our Bonanza flying and IPA snob neighbor proclaimed “there has never been a Homebrew beer that is worth drinking”, my competitive nature might have taken over. One of my overachieving close friends has a saying “You don’t want your equipment to be the limiting factor”, so with all this in mind I set out to brew beer.  continue

[ed. I'm guessing the OP closed this thread - I know I didn't.  I liked it!  It had an RV EFIS in it! Rob, that is way awesome!  ;^)  dr]


20 years in our RV-4 ...Gary McDaniel video


Red Thunder ...Timothy Wilde pics

Me and my little RV holding our own with CJ’s and Yak’s as part of the Red Thunder (RPA Formation) team at the Vinton County Airshow. Our RV's can do everything a CJ/Yak can do (sometimes much better) for ~1/5 the hourly operating cost...thank you VAN! <g>



February 2, 2016.  0002Z.   Issue No. 4,043.

Hangar/Flying Pics ...Brian


Takeoff configuration effect on takeoff distance ...Nigel Speedy

The other half of my learning how to land my 8 was learning how the takeoff configuration and technique affected the takeoff distance. I did an experiment to find out by doing a series of takeoffs using flap 0, 10, 20 & 40 degrees. For the ground roll I also used a tail up attitude (approximately 0 deg pitch attitude), tail low (approximately 5 deg nose up pitch attitude) and tail down (tailwheel lightly held on the ground to hold the 3 point attitude of 11 deg nose up). So a matrix of 12 takeoffs overall, which I measured with a DGPS on runway 24 at California City, L71, in nil wind at 1540 - 1600 lbs. For each takeoff I adjusted pitch attitude after liftoff to achieve 1.2 Vs for the particular flap configuration at 50' AGL. This resulted in 72 KIAS for 0 deg flap to as low as 60 KIAS for 40 deg flap. Each takeoff started with mixture rich, prop full fine with the aircraft held stationary on the brakes until throttle was fully forward. There was only one attempt at each configuration so there is no statistical relevance. I've made no attempt to correct for runway slope, aircraft weight, wind, air density or power so these results are only representative of my aircraft on the test day, which is a polite way of saying they are incorrect everywhere else so don't use them for operational planning. I was really only after the relative changes not absolute distances.

The results are shown in the graphs below:  continue


Branson Picture Story ...Weasel

[ed. There were 2 words in the entire story...and it still told a great story! dr]


I'm back in the building game! ...JR in Shreveport

Well, I had previously posted my emp and wings for sale so that I could finance my CFI/CFII ticket. Well, I couldn't wait till they sold, so I went ahead and got my CFI/CFII prior to selling them.

I had a deal fall through on my kit, and I'm glad of it! I have decided to keep my emp/wings, and just buy the fuse in a year or two when I get my CFI/CFII training paid off. It all worked out just how I wanted. I was having some pretty serious sellers remorse while I thought the deal was going to go through!


Bet you never imagined this ...Brantel

Now we can truly say that these modern EFIS systems can do it all!


Alton Bay Recon ...Vlad

Second recon mission on Alton Bay. Not promising. Runway clearly marked with yellow cones but not groomed. Got on the radio with Paul the airport manager (you can see him by the runway) and he said it's only 8" he wants ice thickness at least a foot to open the airport.


From A.E.R.O. (VAF advertiser)


Stewarts Systems Fish Eyes ...Troy Branch

I know there is a lot of smart people on here and I need some help. I have painted my last airplane with SS and had no trouble. I love the paint. It worked perfectly. Now I am using it again and for some reason my Yellow gets a random fish eye. If I look really close the paint almost falls in places like the beginning of a fish eye. Like something is going wrong as it cures. They start to form around 5 minutes after shooting. I have been trying to solve this with the Stewarts factory for 2 months now.  continue


Overspeeds, and how much is too much

On my 9A I've got an IO360 and Whirlwind RV200 prop with their Jihostroj governor. Over the last couple days doing taxi testing prior to first flight I've been doing some progressive higher power runs, including sudden full-throttles, mostly to see if I could make the engine stumble or miss or do anything else that would concern me if it happened in the air. For this purpose I was being intentionally "ham-handed" with the throttle and throwing it around rather quickly, much more so than would normally be done in a non-emergency scenario. As I said, I was trying to make the engine do something bad.  more



February 1, 2016.  0001Z.   Issue No. 4,042.

Wallpaper Calendar for February ...courtesy Vlad Karpayev

In (8) different monitor sizes.


Another RV-14 In The Air

"In case people haven't noticed, the hobbs meter value for flying RV-14's his clicked up one tick to "3".  I guess Mitch is too humble to toot his own horn so i will blow into it for him.  Congrats on a successful first flight yesterday Mitch.  More info on Van's Facebook Page."


Vref as a function of Vs


Set Hamburger for 15 minutes ...David Paule

One of the shop tools I use is a timer. Now I know that we all have our own kinds of timers. This one's mine, a gift from a friend.  Here're the bottom skins clecoed in place. I've trimmed the holes for the inspection plates. The skins are in place so that I can locate the holes in the plates at the spar flange, which I somehow didn't do earlier. Now it's the left wing's turn.


Fixed a Broken Map Link on The Wx Page


My GAMI Spread is now ZERO!!! ...carrollcw

For those who have not seen my other thread about uneven airflow, I figured I repost a rundown of what has happened to get my GAMI to zero.

I have a new Titan IOX370 running dual EFII ignition and injection with vertical induction. With the stock setup, I had a GAMI spread of 1.3! In trying to determine how to reduce the GAMI spread, I realized (with the help of my neighbor Rusty Crawford) the root cause of the high spread was uneven airflow between the 1/3 cylinders compared to the 2/4 cylinders. This was determined because when ROP, 1/3 had the hottest CHT's, but when LOP they were the coolest (and I verified it was not due to injector imbalance).  continue


More status pics ...Carl RV-4 in Sweden


Selfie ...Aero Octaveus


Surprise during taxi testing ...Greg Niehues

I'm only days away from first flight (waiting on current strong west winds to drop for my north/south runway) so I'm doing some taxi testing. Life is good - so much so that a good friend of mine wanted to ride with me and kick the rudders a bit for grins himself. In doing so we discovered an issue - the right hand copilot brake pedal was sticking and would not return. After he kicked the pedals around a bit, the right brake was dragging and quickly got hot. This is not something I would have caught until who knows when...

This is why we test - because we don't know the things we don't know.


Great Sacandaga Lake, NY Ice Patrol ...Vlad pics


Carson's speed for RV's ...KRviator

I got bored today and got to thinking what is the best speed to fly in my -9 for the least amount of fuel used, which is commonly known as Carson's speed. Fortunately, I fly (or at least, will very soon fly) an RV-9A, for which CAFE performance data is readily available, via their APR flight testing.  more


DIY Painting Update ...Steve Melton

"...right wing, I rotated the plane instead of the booth. it just fits."


RV-14A #140-260 - England

Johannes Woolard and his Sevenoaks, UK blog.


Cabin Creek ...hydroguy2

I didn't land on a lake, but the runway at Cabin Creek (97MT) was slicker than I expected. Good thing for big rudders, as there was zero braking available. I could barely stand up when I got out of the plane.


Quirkies ...newt and jarhead



January 29, 2016.  0112Z.   Issue No. 4,042.
  Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend. 

Progress ...Warbo 7A in Canberra, Australia

Been a while since I posted here but I have been making progress albeit very slowly. I got to the step in the plans instructions that said, "Congratulations! You've finished the first major sub-assembly on your new airplane." Figured I should post a pic


DIY Painting Status Report ...Steve Melton

"...left wing, two coats on bottom, three coats on the top. I picked up a little dirt on the top. for some reason the wing was hard to paint for me. not sure if it is the orientation of the wing and crawling on the floor or that I am tired. I am beginning to see the end of the painting, right wing still to go and a couple stripes on the rudder. outside air temp = -4C. baking wing at 65F."  pictures


First post, hello everyone! ...Mike in Santa Rosa, CA

This is my first post.

I just got word that my deal finally went through, and I'm the new owner of a 2013 RV-12, with all the bells and whistles.

Only 140 hours on it. PPI is being done now, as soon as I get the AOK from the PPI, along with answers to a couple questions I had (how much AVgas or lead has been run-but with only 140 hours total on the engine/plane I expect a good report), I'll be sending the remainder of my money and then they are delivering the plane to me!

I have a hangar lined up, we still need to iron out a few things like who's going to carry the insurance (owner is personally financing a small amount for 1 year), but in a week or 2, or 3, depending mainly on weather (it's been raining solid here for a month in NorCal), as soon as we get a good enough break in the weather they'll be delivering my new (to me) RV-12 to my home airport!  continue


Milestone! ...Chris Chattin of Boise, ID

We have an engine!


Status Report ...crabandy -7 (and DanH input)

I think the foam strip guided epoxy/flox/filler lip may do the trick, the lip radius is looking better and I think I can fair it into the cowl a couple inches back. I think using the foam as a guide will help to make a more consistent shape around the lip.  pics


Milestone ...AdamB RV-10 in NH

Today I took delivery of my RV-10 emp kit.  Looking forward to getting through the inventory and getting started. And the fun begins!

related: The RV-10 Forum


Quirky ...Vlad


Gas Run w/Some Button Pushing

.4 hrs VFR flight plan to KSWI for gas ($2.95).  Played around w/Garmin Pilot and built a VFR plan that would have me steering from runway to runway - always something flat on the nose.  Texas has a lot of runways.  Just drove it around with the heading bug.  Used the app to file, activate and close (pretty easy actually - first time using this feature). 

.5 hrs IFR flight plan back to KAFW (then VFR to 52F at missed).  No clouds, but good button practice and time in the system.  ILS 34R.

4.1 RV hours this month.  Not much, but productive! 

VFR up.  (click to enlarge)

IFR back.  No tower. 1630Z void time.


Getting steered around to the localizer by approach.
Minimums bug set.  Tower in standby.  (click to enlarge)


RV-10 + Cloud = thrilled toddler ...IFR work with Rob Kochman

fmi: (including some IFR trips) http://kochman.net/N819K/?cat=20


Donation List Updated ...January reminder

I took a pay cut last year.  So this year, in an effort to hopefully raise more awareness, I'm going to remind folks about the yearly donation aspect of this website at the end of each month.  Readership in 2015 was up over 10%, but donations were down 7%.  My hunch is that many people don't realize just how few readers donate.  I'll post this reminder, and update the chart with totals going back nine years, on the last Friday of each month.

Thank you if you help keep this site going! 



January 28, 2016.  0042Z.   Issue No. 4,041.

N4932L Painted ...Dwight Frye

I don't post much but thought I'd share the fantastic work done by Boss Aircraft Refinishers (aircraftpainting.com) in Salisbury, NC. I'm a slow builder and got her flying in 2013, then finally got around to finishing the wheel pants and gear leg fairings so I could get it painted. The painting took roughly 3 months. BUT, the long time to complete was all my fault as you'll see from the pictures included below.

My wife Theresa and I dropped it off on October 24, 2015 and picked it back up yesterday on January 26, 2016. We disassembled everything the day we dropped it off, but it took two days to put it all back together again at the end.  more


Slick Magneto experts - Please help w/question ...Bruce Swayze

I recently pulled the right magneto off my engine, to put it up for sale. It's a Slick 4370. I see what I thought was an impulse gear assembly on the front of it. But one gentleman here saw my post in the classifieds and told me the impulse mag is always the left one, not the 4370 on the right side. I'm obviously new at this. I don't know these things. I'm hoping someone can give me more information. What do I have here? What is this thing? Any part number or model number?

My main purpose is to try and get some idea of what it's worth, so I can offer it at a fair price to a potential buyer. But I'm also wondering if this is useful for our RV's, or better for some other aircraft. ??? Any information or help would be greatly appreciated. Here are some pictures:

it appears you have a standard 4730 with some kind of an adapter. The gear is usually installed directly onto the shaft

You need to keep that, it is part of the engine.  The engines without that adapter suffer from the dreaded "magneto drive cushions fall into the engine during magneto R&R" issue.

That's not an impulse coupled magneto. Depending on the hours on it,,,it is pretty much core value only. Maybe $100,,,,$150 at most. You will get the most out of it on eBay

They were installed on engines with vibration issues mostly caused by different propellers. They are very expensive new but I have not sold any used so I don't think it would carry much extra value. You may check to see if that was why they installed that adapter assy!


Before and After Pics ...Xkuzme1

I have owned this RV-4 for nearly a year now. When I bought it, it was all white. I loved the all white, but I needed some way to spruce it up a bit. Id love to see what you all think. I used 3M vinyl to do it


Quirky ...mark in Sydney, Australia

The coal train between Leigh Creek and Port Augusta derailed near Parachilna in 2011.

500' AGL flyby at a safe distance: The train has broken into several pieces.

I only did one pass. A TV news chopper was inbound, we really didn't need to be in each others' way.


Updates ...crabandy pics

DanH sent this to me in a separate email, it illustrated the point nicely for myself. I need to lower the AOA of the inlet lip.


Panel Feedback Requested ...Chattin35


Quirky ...Mark



January 27, 2016.  0100Z.   Issue No. 4,040.

Ray Sage ...Larry Pardue post

Mannie Sage Bemis photo

I just saw this photo for the first time today when a friend posted it on FB. This is Ray Sage who lived in Las Cruces, NM until his death in 2014 at the age of 93. He practiced law until his retirement at the age of 88.

Ray flew P-51s in Europe and as a civilian was a long time flight instructor. Ray's daughter's post on FB has the following quote. "Daddy, a former P-51 pilot, WW2 vet, and independent flight instructor, said the RV-6 flew more like the P-51 than any other plane he ever flew. It was the last time he would ever man a cockpit."

I knew that I enjoyed that day very much but never thought about the fact that that was the last flight this great man made from this world.
Larry Pardue
Carlsbad, NM
RV-6 N441LP Flying


Painted!...Mike Messer

After 4+ years and 2000 hours I am declaring the TARDIS complete!  more

[ed. Tally of our lunch table PIC models.  We didn't count Tony's.
He started with "J-2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7...".  Not enough paper.  dr]


Australian Adventure ...Episode 1 is online (haydnc)


Two questions ...RV-12

1. I am a bit of an electric dunce so bear with me. Is there anyway to test the wiring of the landing, position and strobe lights before buttoning everything up.

2. I have a few mis-drilled holes and would like to fill them. Reading the forums it is clear that bondo is to be avoided so does anyone have a any suggestions. I have a West marine store very close by, but any suggestions would be appreciated

A:  Are they rivet sized holes? If so, pop a rivet in them. If there is a way to dimple it and put a flush river in the hole that is best, then maybe a bit of filler to conceal it

A:  I did one of these on the empennage and called the factory. They said to fill with JB Weld and build on! Good luck with the repair.

A:  I tested mine with a couple alligator clips and the spare 12v battery from my cordless drill. Everything worked just fine.


14 Years and Counting ...proof of fun

I had the cowl off the RV-6 to tighten the alternator belt, and while putting stuff back on took a pic of where the landing gear pokes out of the fuse.  Signs of roughly a decade and a half of RV enjoyment.  Light scratches and smudges - I like the patina.


30th Year Anniversary Celebration of the RV-6/6A Design Update ...Rosie

MANY CONGRATS to ART WOODS of Albuquerque who is #200 to sign up for our HUGE Celebration of the RV-6/6A design at AirVenture 2016!!!!!!

Gerry Julian was #100!

If you are planning on flying into Oshkosh this year and have not yet signed up, please take a moment to register your RV...ANY RV MODEL at www.eaa.org/RV6

I'm hoping to set a record for RVs in attendance so I plan to see you ALL at AirVenture 2016! Rosie

PS: Keep poundin' them rivets because it's ALL WORTH IT!!!!.


Quirkies ...John RV-8 entries

Someone earlier asked about the "LUECKE" I've flown over it hundreds of times but this picture is from Google. The airport in the lower center of the picture is 84R, just to give you some scale of the size of the letters in LUECKE.  Another quirky thing is the Oklahoma sand trap / Texas putting green.  It is located on about a 2nm final to runway 31R at the DFW International airport. Again the picture is from Google as I'm usually occupied with other duties when I fly over it.


RV-12 ADS-B Update ...from the mothership



January 26, 2016.  0126Z.   Issue No. 4,039.

Snowbound Update ...Vlad

Engine quit on stall practice

Today, I performed some acro, and a stall. After reducing to idle speed and have my speed drained at about 53 kt engine quit, a few seconds later a restared with no issues, so on ground idle is about 700RPM pump on and off does not affect idle. Very weird.
Guilherme Plassmann (Brazil)

I had a similar issue and eventually traced it down to a section of aluminum fuel line that went between my gascolator and the fuel flow meter. Once I insulated the fuel line, the problem went away

Lightweight props also play a role. Mine idles at 480-500 but I have electronic ignition and associated timing changes, engine runs fine during stalls but quits during hammerheads

I had a plane years ago that would freeze over incredibly fast without carb heat under the right conditions after idling down in a glide

DIY Paint Update ...Steve Melton pics

Low Fuel Pressure Update ...Kyle Boatright RV-6

I was down for a weekend due to the plague or some other malady, but got to take another pass at the problem last weekend when a buddy and I checked all electrical connections, tightened all fuel connections, and eyeballed the entire fuel system. We also scratched our heads a bit. I performed a run-up and no problems were noted. On that note, I went flying and saw no problems during a 15 minute flight.

This weekend, I repeated the test flight. Upon arriving at altitude, and after turning off the electric fuel pump, the fuel pressure (as measured by the GRT EIS4000) dropped again. It fell to a negative value of between -0.3 and -0.7 PSI. The engine continued to run fine in that condition for the duration of the flight - about 30 minutes.

I suspect I have an intermittent measurement problem. Funny enough, if you look at GRT's online troubleshooting guide, it mentions that their VDO senders often fail and become erratic at 200-500 hours, particularly on carbureted engines. On the other hand, the troubleshooting guide did mention that the erratic pressure tends to happen on the high side, rather than the low indicated pressure I saw.

So, I guess I'll order a new sender from GRT and see if that resolves the problem Unless one of you has a better idea. If you do, I'd appreciate hearing it..

FINALLY! She's Painted!!! ...Terry Ruprecht 9A pics

Quirky Entry ...Vlad

Quirky Entry ...n5lp



January 25, 2016.  0017Z.   Issue No. 4,038.

Burrowing out...Vlad


Inflight Pic ...Jim Stricker

Flying home after buying RV-12 SN120058 from original builder with 50TT. You can't see the smile...<g>


High cost of poor gust lock ...rstisser

We are in Venice for the winter with the RV6A tied down instead of at home in the hanger. Some rough weather came thru last weekend and now I have work to do. The wire that I use as a rudder lock came out and allowed the rudder to swing and hit the edge of the elevator. It made about a 2 inch gash in the middle of the rudder and made the trailing edge a little crooked. Now hoping to be able to patch the hole well enough to get back to Illinois. A new rudder is a must, but hard to do here. Better gust locks are also in the works.


VAF Ski trip ...LAMPSguy pics

2016, 3rd annual ski trip.


RV-8 Winter Flight Along the Colorado Front Range ...colojo pics

Today we have perfect weather in Denver before rain and snow move in tomorrow, so I took advantage of the opportunity to fly my RV-8 down to Colorado Springs and back.


Another RV-10 is conceived ...rjhecker

Good Morning Starting Jan 1st, the adventure of building a 10 began. I have been doing ALOT of reading like most of the new builders do and just want to put it out to the world that if your into reading and watching new guys pound rivets and have all sorts of questions please subscribe to the blog and follow along. And as always, advise is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance -Robert


I'm finally in the club! ...jeffkersey pics

I have been admiring these airplanes and looking for one to purchase for over a year now. Tuesday, I finally purchased a flying RV7A and flew it from North Carolina back home to Tennessee. Exciting stuff. After 12 years of flying, this is my first airplane purchase. I have been lurking on this site and am blown away by the community of talented and generous people flying Van's aircraft and sharing knowledge and ideas. Thanks to all who contribute here. I am sure I all be spending lots more time here in the years to come. All the best to everyone in 2016.


Long time lurker finally a new owner ...merlin3

Hello everyone, been a lurker on the forums for a while now and have been reading everything I can. Finally started looking for an rv4 pretty seriously a few montha ago. Well as of a week and a half ago i am a proud new owner of a rv4. Its the first plane I've ever owned and pretty excited to put a lot of hours on it this summer. Heres a couple pics.


RV-8 Mid-Fuselage panels ...cdeerinck

Maybe I'm losing my mind, maybe not. Maybe some of you can help me decide. Certainly, I might be losing some of my memory.

Picture #1, showing my rear throttle quadrant. The plate pointed to by the yellow arrows: Is this a Vans part, or did I custom build it? I can't find it on the plans, but I can't remember making it! It looks factory, so did I just do a good job?


From the mothership FP page...



January 22, 2016.  0040Z.   Issue No. 4,037.
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend. 

It's about the journeys--why we traded RVs ...Guy Prevost

I had a unique experience yesterday. I watched my RV-8a, better known in the family as Jane Plane, take off without me in the front seat. She’s headed east to her new home in a heated hangar next to a private paved runway. This marks the first time in her entire existence she’s flown without me as PIC. 2500 wonderful hours of building, 550 glorious hours of flight time. And now she’s someone else’s airplane. I’m a little sad to see her go, but not as sad as you might think. These machines are about the memories they make and the journeys they enable. We're on a pretty amazing journey right now.  continue


Don ...Dean Eiland RV-9

I guess I haven’t thought about giving rides much. I don’t give many rides. However I did give my father-in-law a ride last week.

My 78 year old father-in-law, Don, lives in Ohio and I live in Texas. He drives down and visits us in Texas about once a year. I really hadn’t thought about it much but he was involved in my building an RV since the beginning. In 2009, when I decided to buy a kit, he drove with me 3,333 miles from Dallas to 500 miles north of Toronto and back in four days to pick up an RV-9 kit. (Insanity and obsessions come in all forms. Don’t judge.) I couldn’t have bought that kit without him.

Since he visits once a year, or so, he has seen my plane in various stage of the build process. He was visiting last week and I mentioned taking a flight. He jumped on the chance to fly in my plane, "like a chicken on a June bug". We went up for about 1.5 hours last week and just puttered around the north Texas, Southern Oklahoma area. Nice day and nice flight. Didn’t give it much thought.

He left last Sunday and a few days later he called my wife from Florida and asked if I’d text a picture I took of him and my plane to a friend of his.

I really didn’t think much about the flight until your article. Thanks again Dave. I think the flight meant a lot to Don and again I hadn’t really given it much thought. I needed to.


The Perfect Workshop ...Bob's take

I just finished building a workshop for my project. I had just enough room that I could make the building just large enough to put the wings on sans tips, and do the control rigging/checkout and the fuel connections. I have time, but eventually I'm going to need to find a new home for some things if I actually want to do that

I'm not sure how building codes work over there or what construction methods are popular, but here are a few things I did/wish I did:

First, I would have subbed out a little more of the work. Just prepping for the foundation pour took me three months, and framing took three or four more, because I was doing all of the work myself up to that point, with no helpers. The project would have gone faster and made for much less irritation with the wife had I just subbed most of it out. As it was, had I not paid someone to do the roof, siding, and drywall, I'd still be working on it. I learned a whole lot about construction and building codes, though, and I would still do the wiring myself.  continue


From the 'Quirky' Things Seen From the Air Thread ...things to show your passengers.

Heart shaped house (Texas panhandle)

Texas Shaped Pool (from the 'Quirky' thread) ...


Aerodynamics and streamlining computations

Q: So, if I have a cylinder of length L and diameter D sticking out into an airstream at, say 210 Knots, what is the most effective way to streamline it?

A streamlined bubble (half teardrop) is convenient, but it also has a lot of skin drag. What is the break-even point? At what size does the blister have the same drag as the cylinder?

A streamlined mast (airfoil cross section) of length L (think pitot mast) also has a drag coefficient. Same question as above.

We all hate the little things that stick out.... Fuel drains, vents and so on. Is it better to leave them alone or to fabricate streamlined fairings for them? I know what the gut feeling is, but is it supported by science?

A: video

A: book


RV-4 Status ...Carl in Sweden

Making progress, just have to connect some wires then paint and get the seats done and I guess some paperwork:-).


Creeping Along ...Bill Boyd

Half the workshop floor was epoxied yesterday with the Rustoleum product from Lowes. Results were okay (we didn't grind the concrete first) but the odor in the house was awful the entire day. I really anticipated more airspace isolation between shop space and living space upstairs with the mini-split HVAC and the fully finished walls and ceiling. Instead it was like the painters had applied the epoxy in the living room - the volatiles in that stuff are just like spray paint - xylene, toluene, with a hint of coffee, leather and spice. Which reminds me, I suspect the shop is not going to double well as a cigar lounge as far a the upstairs occupants are concerned.

Here's the 10 on the half that just got painted. It's in the way, but they are working around it best they can.


RV-10 Horz Stab

Q: Do I need to tear it open?

A: The MIL SPEC actually allows for using a flush rivet set on the manufactured head of AN470 rivets and a cupped set to be used on the shop head side. There are specific requirements that are detailed in the document.
It is not possible just from photos to tell whether a lot of these rivets meet the requirements but they might.  Read through the document and then do some measuring. Pay particular attention to the 3.3.3 Driving procedure Section. Maybe you would only need to replace a few


I Might Still Be Building if I Hadn't Met Jay

I was thinking yesterday about how our RV-6 got to the first flight finish line.  I built at the house for 5.5 years (66 months) while working two jobs, raising a family and all the other stuff you do while you still have energy in your mid 30's.  Mind you this was an 'old school' kit where you drilled every hole in the fuse and hammered the spar webs together with a baby sledge / C-tool on the garage floor (it chewed out a little spot in the slab).  5.5 years at my house to get it to the point that required a completely different skill set.  I came to the conclusion that in my situation it would take another three years to finish, so I took it over to Jay Pratt's RV Central for help with the engine, avionics, fiberglass and rigging.  It was ready to fly in 5 1/2 months.  I'd drive over there after work a few times a week and work with Jay until 10pm.  Would I do it again?  Absolutely.  Most of my memories from there involve laughter, and I learned a lot.  I consider Jay a good, GOOD friend now.

Here's one example regarding how it's set up.  He doesn't change drill bits.  Instead, he has a drill for each bit, and multiple air lines, because that makes things go faster.  The whole shop is optimized for speed.  It works.


Months and percentages...

Red arrow points to my RV-6 at Jay's in 2002.



January 21, 2016.  0107Z.   Issue No. 4,036.

RV-4 "Windrunner" and RV-7 "Windrider" in form ...pics

New spars in progress ...Steve Smith

If you peek once in a while on the HP-24 project page, you have seen us laying up composite skins for new tapered wings for my RV-8 and Bob Mills Rocket-6.

8th Annual Ice Cream Social, Inyokern, CA

All, just a quick post so you can put the event on your caledar if you are the planing type. I will post more particulars later.

Date is March 12th. Hope to see you there.

This year will be a lttle different (we learn every year). I will have a few folks taking care of the ice cream and house keeping required so my wife and i can spend more time with people visiting.

My family will also be traveling from all over the country to come see all the RVs.

We had a tremendous turn out last year. I hope it is as good this year.

Crabandy Status Report in Pics

David Paule RV-3B Status Report

Back when I was laying out the bottom skins, I'd forgotten that Van's had included pre-punched inspection hatches for the bottom of the wing. Oops.

I went ahead and made my own, and of course the holes in the backing ring were incompatible with the pre-punched ones. Mine were slightly different sizes, too. Imagine that - Maybe 20 pre-punched parts in the entire airframe and I didn't use four of them.....

I left the cut-outs in the bottom skins until the deburring/dimpling stage. The cut-outs are now complete and I had to match the holes in the hatches to the holes in the spar. Yeah, I'd gone ahead and made holes in the spar for the hatch without including the hatches, another sequence error.

This next part I figured out before riveting the skins on. What I did was cleco the skins on the wing, cleco the hatch back-up rings in place, and screw the hatches on. Of course then the wing was covered up and I couldn't back-drill through the spar. A bit of tape held the hatches in place and the leading edge, attached, gave me a solid fore-aft reference, and with the skins removed, I could easily back-drill through the spar to the hatches.

Here they are drilled and clecoed.

Tailwind Tuesday - Monday also ...Rick A

Since Doug did his front page showing the great tailwinds on Tuesday, I had to mention my flight on Monday.

I flew the RV-12 I built to it's new owner in Florida on Monday. During the first leg, I flew at 7500 and had 10 - 20 kt tailwind.

On the second leg & third legs, I went up to 9500 and had a 40+ kt tailwind. I was making 160 - 165 kts over the ground! Not bad for a 115 Kt airplane. (I was showing 110 indicated & 122 true airspeed).

Quirky Things Seen From The Air in Your RV

Enormous TFR Over The East Coast ...Dynon

To close the book on this:

The FAA has investigated and found they did improperly uplink a "SPECIAL NOTICE" NOTAM as a TFR. Dynon's system received a TFR over ADS-B with no way to tell it was anything but. On top of this, there was an error in the transmitted data with one of the points of the outline being over near Africa instead of in Florida. This caused different mapping systems to draw it differently (including not drawing it at all).

The error was only in ADS-B uplinks. Any device that got it's data any off the internet would not have seen this or if you called Flight Service they would not have had it as a TFR either.

One element that made this situation more obvious on SkyView than other systems is that our default settings shade the inside of TFR's red to make it clear you are inside a TFR. SkyView does have a TFR opacity adjustment in the map settings. If you prefer to only see outlines of TFRs and not have the interior shaded, you can adjust this to zero at any time. The outlines of the TFR will remain in red.

We're sorry that this caused confusion among our customers, but in reviewing what happened here, there is no way for Dynon to protect against showing a TFR like this when ADS-B tells us it's there.

--Ian @ Dynon

P.S. Thanks to everyone that helped us and the FAA identify and get to the root cause of this issue. With your datalogs, we were able to give the FAA the exact data they had sent over ADS-B and quickly demonstrate that the issue was in the raw ADS-B data.

DIY Painting Update ...Steve Melton

RV Interior

(from Rich Meske) Take advantage of the Winter and plan to add one of our interior packages to your aircraft. We are offering interiors for models RV-6, RV-7, and RV-9. Other aircraft are possible as well. Choose your own materials and we will make your seats, armrests, and stick boots. The seats feature an inflatable lumbar support. An optional EZ-Step can be incorporated in the seat. It is a convenient place for a person to put their foot upon entering the aircraft. See this feature along with our newest products at aircraftextras.com



January 20, 2016.  0030Z.   Issue No. 4,035.

The value of the RV Community ...Dgamble RV-12

I have given a lot of people rides in both my RV-6 and now in my RV-12, and I always enjoy it as least as much as they do. Having been blessed with owning a Van's RV for what, nine or ten years now, it's easy to forget what wonderful little airplanes they are. Just as humans can get used to just about anything, there is a similar risk of getting so used to things that they start to be taken for granted - flying with people that have never been in a small plane before, or pilots that have never experienced the physical freedom of a nimble little sport plane, tends to remind the owner of what a special privilege it is to have one of these things.

I have to be honest, though: I don't remember everyone I've given a ride to, but they sure remember me! There's one guy at the airport that has had to remind me twice now that he took a ride with me. And now I realize that I've forgotten his name. Again.

On the other hand, there are some that are very memorable. There was a 50-something guy that had never flown in an airplane of any type, despite a life-long interest. And, or course, many of the very pretty young women are easily recalled.

And then there was Phil.

Phil called me one day last May to introduce himself as a fellow RV-12 builder in search of a ride. Naturally I told him that I'd be happy to give him one, and all he had to do was let me know when he wanted to come to the airport. There was a pause.... then he somewhat reluctantly told me that doing so would be a three hour round trip. "No problem," I told him, "I'll fly out to Zanesville and you can meet me there." That's less than a half hour trip in the 12, so it was no big deal at all.

The ride was memorable mostly because of how ebullient he was. I've seen that in younger people, and sometimes in 50-somethings as mentioned above, but seldom in the late-60s to 70-something group. That's not to say that they don't enjoy or appreciate it, because they do, but this guy was almost giddy. When we landed, we went though the obligatory "can I give you same gas money" dance, wherein they offer a couple of times and I respectfully decline.

Besides the fact that accepting money flies right in the face of FAA regulations, I really don't think it's necessary. I enjoy the flying, and the hourly costs of flying an RV-12 are so low that my out-of-pocket cost is nearly insignificant. And besides, I'm really just re-paying the debts incurred from when it was I that was asking for/receiving rides in RVs.

It's really just part and parcel with the mores of the RV Community.

What I have failed to consider is that what I consider to be a small favor may very well be of a far higher worth to the recipient of my minimal largess.

Obviously Phil had been one of those. When I got back to home base and picked up my phone to close my domestic flight plan (the text I send home to tell my spouse that I had cheated fate once again), I had a text from Phil telling me to make sure to look over to the passenger side - he had left something in the plane.

I did so, and found two wadded up $50 bills.


I had to do something with them, so one of them now rides in the map box, just waiting for the next time I find myself out somewhere and short of cash. The other rides in the glove box of my car, awaiting the same type of situation.

Late last November I received a message from Phil's wife telling me that he had passed away.

She told me that she thought I would want to know how much that ride had meant to Phil.

I took a day to absorb that, then remembered that I had taken a couple of pictures of him during the flight, which I try to do with everyone that rides with me. I was able to dig those out of my picture repository and send the better of the two to her, for which she was very grateful.

Then I had a thought.

I never know how to approach these things, so I cautiously composed another message to her that went something like "I apologize if this is inappropriate, but if you need help selling the kit, please let me know and I'll be happy to assist."

She took me up on the offer this weekend, so I drove out to the very nice heated garage where he had been building the plane to assess the situation. As it turns out, it's in extremely good condition, very well organized, and should be very easy to sell. In fact, I may have already sold it.

I also suggested that she would have no trouble selling the specialty tools as well. As I was winnowing them out from the more day-to-day tools, I came across one that I need myself, so I told her I would be making an offer on it.

When I had all of the airplane parts separated out from lawnmower parts and the like, I asked her how much she wanted for the tool, based on the price I found on Aircraft Spruce.

She paused, clearly thinking it through, then finally said, "Well, I guess I need to know what your fee is going to be first."

I have to confess to being momentarily stunned by the question; I can't imagine anyone in the RV community would even consider charging a fee for what I had done for her.

I told her that there would be no fee - in fact, it was a nice opportunity to use the knowledge that I spent three years building, only to never need again. Happy to do it!

She thought for a few minutes, then said "How about $100 for the tool?"

Perfect! I had half of it right there in the car, and the other half sitting in the map box of the plane!!

Thanks, Phil!

Oh, and she also asked if I had known he was ill at the time we went flying together. I had not, but as it was cancer, he probably did.

He very likely knew that our shared flight would be the only flight he would ever have in an RV-12 - I'm tearing up just writing this.

Now I better understand the worth people may be putting on those rides that I consider to be just another chance to fly my airplane.

It can be quite high.
Dave Gamble
Grove City, OH

RV4 with Garmin Panel ...Walt

John's Rotisserie

Paint Update ...Steve

Status ...rmartingt

Maryland Added to the RV Hotel List

Maryland - Glen Burnie/Baltimore/Annapolis - Mike Messer - 443-961-4552
I have two spare rooms when my kids are not in town (48 weeks of the year) and can comfortably accommodate up to four (full size bed and bunk bed). Centrally located (20 min drive) to KMTN (Martin State), KANP (Lee Annapolis), and KFME (Tipton) and 5 miles from BWI. Depending on the day/time, I can pick you up. Pool (June-August) and gym facilities in the complex. No smoking and sorry no pets.

Texas Tailwind Tuesday

Gary Platner (RV-8) sent me this pic.  20"MP, 2380rpm and 2,700'.  Pretty dang good for less than 7gph.

The winds at 3,000' at the time of this photo.
Gary was flying northeast in the yellow part <g>.

Panel ...SMRacer

Where has your cap been?

...and what charity did you give to?  The one below went to nearly 70,000'.

related: The 'Acts of Charity' section of the forums



January 19, 2016.  0004Z.   Issue No. 4,034.

RV-8R second test flight prelim data ...radial RV-8

We had a successful and event free test flight number two today!!! Prelim numbers show a cruise speed of 155mph at 23" of mp and 3000 engine rpm. This is 15 mph faster than my initial design goal. This is also only 15 mph slower then my fathers 200hp RV-8. These speeds would not have been possible without the use of the GT electric prop. After shutdown I laser checked the cylinder head temps. None of them were over 200f. The baffling is doing its job quite well! Time to de cowl and do a visual inspection and filter check. Video is posted below.  video


DIY Painting ...Steve Melton update and many pics

"...pulled the n-numbers at four hours after paint. paint is very soft and not tape free. called in the reinforcements to pull paint mask. they had fun. the numbers came off well. Amanda dug into the "5" somewhat with the razor on the right hand side and she told me so, I said it was OK, no worries. she did better on the remainder. the memories of the help are worth it. I had some runs on the cowl. this is how to turn a nice white cowl to blue runs. one day I may understand how to paint but with the help at the end of the day it was a good day. outside air temp -12C when we pulled the n-number mask."


Update on N914VA...east coast RV-14A demonstrator

(Mitch Lock)  "It's gonna be a little while before I can give demos. Being certificated under Experimental R&D which is the precursor to Market Survey/Crew Training like all of Van's factory airplanes, I have a 50 hour phase one flight test, plus a paint appointment next month. Should be up and working by mid March."


The RV Hotel Update ...21 pages of places to stay for free

(newest entries)
British Columbia
We are about 10 miles from the airport (CYSQ) and have a guest cabin that will sleep 2-3. Not far off the Alcan route. Plenty of parking at the airport. Can pick you up at the airport. We’re typically in residence from late May through mid-September. Lots of great stuff to do here. Best contact is email (arehart 'at' unr 'dot' edu) as we don’t have a phone there.
Greg & Julia Arehart

We have a hangar at RTS, home of the Reno Air Races. Sometimes can squeeze in another RV, or it is empty parts of the summer when we are traveling. We have a spare bedroom with double bed and can sometimes lend a vehicle if needed. Best contact is email (arehart 'at' unr 'dot' edu).
Greg & Julia Arehart


Update on 'Morning Sickness'

Well, it looks like Mike was right all along

I took the lower cowl off and found the mixture arm was about 1/4" or so off its stop. I then found I could move it that bit extra using the cockpit control. There were witness marks on the cowl - on the angle of the air intake section. A quick "re-profiling" with the Dremel and all now works as it should.

I have another couple of jobs to do before rolling her out and running the engine but I think the problem is solved. Thanks guys!

(later)......Just to close the thread - started up today and back to its normal, sweet self. I just wish all snags were so easy to fix. Well, easy when you have thousands of experts on VAF!

Thanks again, guys.


For Those Making Their Own Seats...



v3.0 of Vac's Training Syllabus is Online

Version 3.0 Summary of Changes

-Corrected FAR Flight Review reference
-Changed assumed weight for parachutes for the purpose of computing weight and balance to actual weight
-Scrubbed all Knot/MPH references throughout all Parts and adopted the following convention: “Van’s Aircraft provides RV-type airspeed performance data and limitations using MPH. In accordance with current practice, this guide presents airspeed in knots and MPH (generally presented in a KTS/MPH format). If a speed is a factory specified limitation, it is converted from MPH to knots and rounded to the closest appropriate knot. In some cases when converting from MPH to knots, a small interpolation is made to produce an easy to reference “round” number ending in zero or five if it does not exceed an airspeed limitation. Due to variation between individual aircraft, calibrated airspeed is utilized in lieu of indicated airspeed. Indicated airspeed for a specific RV-type can only be determined through flight test.”
-Revised figures and some discussion in RV-type aerodynamics briefing.
-Edited bounced landing ROT of page 434. Added ROT regarding retracting flaps abruptly (manual flaps) on conventional gear types during wheel landing.
-Edited LANDING section in PART 2. Added additional power-control discussion and established “no later than” point for stabilized final approach criteria.
-Added RV-3B weight and balance limits to Table 1-1. Limits obtained from Van’s tech support, including note regarding wing fuel weight inclusion in maximum allowable aerobatic gross weight.
-Added knots to Tables 2-1 and 2-2: VNE TAS quick reference data.
-Added RV-3B data to Table 2-4. Revised notes.
-Added RV-3B data to Table 2-5. Re-ordered notes.
-Added RV-3B data to Table 2-6. Added suggested asymmetric G limits (asymmetric G limits are not specified for RV-types by Van’s). Revised and re-ordered notes.
-Added RV-3B data to Table 3-2. Only VFE provided for RV-3 is 100 MPH/95 KTS. Note: No factory guidance available stating VFE for half-flaps or less is 10 MPH higher as is available for other RV-types.
-Added RV-3B data to Table 3-7. Revised and re-ordered notes.
-Revised note 1 in table 2-3/3-8.
-Revised and added to Appendix D: RV Handling Rules of Thumb



January 18, 2016.  0103Z.   Issue No. 4,033.

Air to air pic ...Guilherme Plassmann (Brazil)


9A Status Report ...Tom Argentieri pics

Finally had some time after the Holidays to Sikaflex in the aft window on my tip-up canopy. Lots of clamps, but the mess was manageable.  more


Status Report ...Gil Alexander 6A

Actual progress. Wings on with the real, final bolts.


Trigger Happy ...Charlie Derk RV-10

I got a little trigger happy with my drill and step bit. What was supposed to be a 5/8" hole is now a little less than 3/4". This is on my RV10 elevator.

What is the best way to "fix" something like this? New spar? New (larger) bushing? Silicone? VHB?


DIY Paint Update ...Steve Melton pics

"...cowling paint line. I do not think where the line is matters, I was only going for symmetry.

I pulled a tape line for the bottom blue across the lower cowl for each side half way and met close to the middle. I picked the one I liked best and made a template and duplicated the other side. mark the template with a pencil and cut the line. the trick is to find the cowl center with the template. the trial and error method worked for me on the 5th measurement. very little wasted tape with this method. this 1/4 inch tape in the picture is the negative. I latter swept a 1/2 inch blue tape around the entire cowl as one piece to match the 1/4 inch one. the wider tape gave a smoother line and was still able to contour..."


Welcome Heartland Machine & Mfg.

(in the Previous Day's News section)  "Heartland Machine & Mfg is offering their John's Rotisserie Kit to the VAF community along with other unique products related to building EXP aircraft. This rotisserie kit provides builders with the key components needed to quickly build their own rotisserie using two pieces of common lumber and hardware. See pictures and a video at heartland-mfg.com"



January 15, 2016.  0021Z.   Issue No. 4,032.
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend.


N914VA Ready to Fly! ...RumbaChad

Van's east coast RV-14A demonstrator received her airworthiness certificate Wednesday evening from DAR David Schober.

Congratulations to Mitch for all his hard work (and patience)!

related: The RV-14/14A Forum


Intermittent Fuel Pressure Problem

I own a RV7A with an IO-360, fixed pitch prop. with a Dynon SkyView that I bought from the builder and have been having an annoying fuel pressure issue since I bought it. At WOT during takeoff and in a climb with the electric fuel pump on, fuel pressure seems fine (30-35psi) If I shut electric fuel pump off I sometimes get a drop in my fuel pressure and an audio "low fuel pressure" warning from the SkyView. Drops to about 12-14psi. This doesn't happen all the time. When this first happened, I thought it was the mechanical pump, so I replaced it with a new one and checked my filters. That didn’t solve the problem. Engine always runs strong and I haven't had any issues. A week ago, after preheating the engine with a red dragon heater, starting and waiting for oil temps to rise above 100 (OAT was 25F) I performed a run up and I was getting a high fuel pressure warning. I believe it was around 40-45+ PSI. without electric fuel pump on. I waited a while to observe engine performance. All seemed well. I decided to take off and stay in the pattern. After engine warmed to operating temps all seemed fine, fuel pressure came back to normal and I had an uneventful 2 hour flight.

My questions to you all, is: Since I already replaced the mechanical fuel pump, what should I check next? Does temperature effect anything? Why was I getting high fuel pressure in cold weather and low in regular temps? Is it possible my fuel lines are effected by different temperatures? Is it possible it is just a bad sensor? Also, when I turn on my electric fuel pump, according to the SkyView fuel flow goes up a bit. Is this common?


Eagle's Nest Projects - Central High School (WI) Banquet honoring Student Builders


One Lonely Neglected RV at Leadville Colorado ...turbo :^)

Took a drive thru the airport yesterday while being out here enjoying the cool wx. The airport guy said it flew twice last summer. What a shame. The airport is looking great though.


Status Report...crabandy

I'm finally satisfied with the new shape of the cowling, I think. I bought a gallon of auto body filler to do the final shaping mostly because I could spread it and be sanding in 25 minutes, it was also cheaper but I missed the workability of the west systems. I did add some West Systems and flox immediately aft of the inlet rings. All the foam, filler etc is getting removed after the glass is on and cured.

My reference lines have mostly been sanded out, but they helped me keep things uniform as far as I can tell.  more



January 14, 2016.  0058Z.   Issue No. 4,031.
I was offered a ride in Sid Mayeux's RV-7A 'Kellie Girl' today at the cave and was happy to go.  Beautiful plane that flew exactly as advertised.  Sid's request was for me to show him my usual spots for seeing deer.  "I have the aircraft."  During the flight Monk joined up for a bit, and I got this pic while Sid flew.  The Wx is pretty good around here right now, and the skies are busy with RVs.  Good times...


Morning Sickness

I have an IO-540 fitted to my -10 and have been having some minor issues first flight of the day.

Everything was fine until I was away from home for about 6 weeks so decided to install desiccator plugs. The problem started after I refitted the normal plugs although I have difficulty believing it has anything to do with that - just coincidence.

On the first flight, the engine starts fine but then starts to stumble. I don't believe it is an ignition fault as it dies and then recovers if I give it a bit of throttle. It's almost like a vapor lock but can't be. Putting the electric pump on makes no difference. There is no evidence of any water in the system. I also do not believe it is the traditional "Morning Sickness" of a sticky valve - the engine is only 25 hours old and it is definitely like a weak cut rather than a misfire. By the time I have done the engine run-up all is well. Second flight of the day, no problem.

The first time it happened, I put it down to the engine having sat there fore 6 weeks but it occurred again the next day, although not as bad. I haven't flown since as I am away and the engine is again inhibited. I am hoping to fly again in the next few days, so any ideas?

In summary:

- doesn't feel like an ignition problem
- doesn't feel like a sticky valve
- can't be the EDP as the electric pump ON makes no difference
- can't be vapor lock as the engine is cold

That leaves water. The drains are clear but I suppose it could be collecting somewhere else. The aircraft is kept in an unheated hangar so could it be condensation in the fuel? This is the first winter the aircraft has been finished and flying.

More than irritating as the engine had been running absolutely sweetly! Any thoughts appreciated.


One less naked plane ...David Nelson

After flying naked (the plane, not me) for just over four years, she's finally got paint!


Rest in Peace Mr. Tommy Holland (RV-6A)

[ed. Mr. Holland passed away a few days ago, and David Jones sent me the following article that was written three or so years ago.  Reading this article will be time well spent.  ]


Status Report ...Aero Octaveus

Well. Finally reached a mile stone for the project. Wings are mounted on the wing stand and ready to rock.


New from Dynon- SkyView 14.0 Released & SV-GPS-2020 Shipping

We're excited to share two pieces of news. First, we are now shipping our 2020-compliant ADS-B Out position source - the SV-GPS-2020 GPS Receiver. We've also just released SkyView System Software version 14. In addition to support for the SV-GPS-2020, SkyView v14 includes over 30 new capabilities and improvements.

Michael Schofield
Dynon Avionics.  (more)


Houston Area Builders/Flyers Monthly Lunch

Looks like the last time we did this was back in November at Carl's, so let's make it Hooks this time around. Let's get some B-52 burgers at the Aviator's Grill this Saturday at 11:30.

I need to talk to you guys and get motivated again, I've been back from vacation for a couple weeks now and still haven't gotten back to work yet...


Updated- AcroBox for iOS


Mothership Stats



January 13, 2016.  0132Z.   Issue No. 4,030.
Might any VAF readers sell Jeep Wranglers for a living?  In the next few months I need to turn over the Ford Ranger to my now-old-enough-to-drive son.  I'm looking for a base model no frills that can be cleaned with a leaf blower.  Manual window cranks will be just fine.  I don't enjoy car shopping and would rather deal with a RV builder/owner who is in the biz than, you know, this guy.
  vansairforce 'at' gmail 'dot' com if you might be able to help...and thank you.


Radial powered RV-8R flies!!!! ...video

"I am happy to announce that the RV-8R has flown for the first time! She was test flown by my father, Mike Kelly at 8:00 am EST. test conditions 45 F, clear skies, calm winds. Chase plane was a 160 Hp RV-9.

She flew straight and true, and did two circuits over the airport to a landing. Engine and oil temps remained low. The propeller from GT performed flawlessly and cycled to maintain 3300 engine rpm. Top speed achieved was 130 knots. At one point the chase plane said he was at full throttle and couldn't catch up. These are all very preliminary numbers and will be verified with more test flying. But for now I can say that 10 years of painstaking effort have come to fruition.

Time to un cowl and inspect. A huge thanks to everyone who made today possible."


N789KD's First Passenger

Today My lovely wife/building buddy was the first passenger after Phase I was completed. As she was my "Kathy the Riveter" when I couldn't reach both sides, that made her the K in the K&D Aircraft factory in my backyard.

Nice cool morning with little wind, that made for a smooth demonstration of our 9A. For someone that isn't into flying she had a great time enjoying every minute. Jesse Saint was the cameraman, thanks again for all his help.

Now we'll be doing some traveling

I guess I'll have to revise my profile.


A riddle for you mountaineers ...Vlad (3 pics)

How long will it take to recognize this mountain?


Dormant RV-6

Looking for some input....knowing full well the broad topic at hand.

I am looking at purchasing a 15 year old RV-6. It has a factory new Lycoming O-360 A4M with 540 TTSN. The drawback here is that the aircraft has been hangar for 10 years, without a single flight hour on it (owner grounded for medical).

My natural concern is corrosion. Is there a good way to check for this without cracking open the case? At this point, I was thinking of valuing the aircraft with the engine core and getting it overhauled myself.

Thoughts, advice?



PIREP for the Property Owners at my Airport

fmi: http://www.fly52f.org/


Update on David's Wife ...David Domeier

"...At present we are into week 2 of radiation/chemo treatment. Marge is taking it very well but is tired and growing weaker, she can walk be it slowly and steps are a problem, can't tell if it is the tumor or side effects of treatment. They won't take another MRI for several months to see what's going on. We have a weekly appointment with Doctor on Wednesdays of this six week session to check progress.

We (Marge's oldest son) and I have looked at other prototype treatments. As our surgeon said after surgery, there are many, he has tried many, all are experimental. We've decided to stay the course here for now.

The Duke research is encouraging, 2 persons have had remission but 11 others of the initial 20 have died. The is much to learn about the polio virus treatment. The trauma of moving Marge to Duke and live in an apartment would be very stressful for her. At present she is very comfortable in her home just 12 minutes from treatment. She is age 74 and also suffers dementia.

Again thanks to all for sharing your prayers and thoughts. It is people who make life worth living. Airplanes are fun but in the end it is people who really matter."



January 12, 2016.  0107Z.   Issue No. 4,029.

Polyphosphazenes and BBQ

Meet Patricia.  She is a chemistry major at SMU and works in the lab across the hall from our daughter Audrey.  Audrey invited her out to the airport last weekend to get a ride in 'Flash'.

It was pretty much a brochure-perfect orientation ride.  Cold, smooth air.  Good viz.  Some deer to look at, and a bit of formation on Randy's wing.  Followed by lunch at the Hard 8 BBQ.  For about 30 minutes there, I think I was actually what the kids would call 'cool'.  Well, maybe 10 minutes.

Patricia tried to explain over lunch what her lab time is spent working on (this stuff).  Trying to modify polymers so that, in one application for example, there is a lower rate of rejection in the body when implants are used during post-mastectomy reconstructive surgery.

Very impressive!

Randy Richmond photo.


First Flight VH-MQB ...Michael Brooks 9A (Melbourne, Australia)

I'm pleased to report that VH-MQB (serial number 91939) now does what it's supposed to do.  Father and child are doing well, as is the test pilot Tony Manning, who did a magnificent job. Thanks to this great forum and its contributors. Without it I would have been lost.  Apart from a few niggles it was a relatively painless experience and flies "hands off" straight and level.


RV-8 Status Report ...Martin Leroux

Ever since I received my fuselage kit, I resisted the temptation to play with parts and build the airplane on cleco just for fun, then dream and making some airplane noise...Please admit will all do this !

Now that I work on my fuselage in a rented shop shared with my father and my uncle, they come almost daily witness the progress on my aircraft. Last November, they kept asking questions about aircraft parts, such as "What's this ? Where does it go ? I don't understand, show me and explain..." Therefore, because of "family peer pressure", over a period of about two week-end days, I built the fwd fuse and the mid fuse on clecos. And when they came back, now they could understand how my RV-8 is built.....And then they started bringing friends to show the airplane in the garage When they came back a few days later, they were disappointed to see the aircraft disassembled..."Hey dude, I have to disassemble it to make it for real later" I told them

Anyhow, this week-end of work spend building the fuselage temporarily turned out to be a great exercise. I got to know my parts and where they fit better. Definitely not a waste of time as I expected. And then I got fewer questions all the time...


DIY Painting Update ...Steve Melton


Jeff Update ...via Vlad

"Just got a progress report via SpyNet "



January 11, 2016.  0055Z.   Issue No. 4,028.
  I had the honor of attending Red Marron's funeral on Saturday.  The infamous B.C. Squadron was represented well!  There was some sadness, but rest assured there were many, many laughs.  What a life well lived!  Red, I'll see you on the other side someday.  You set the bar pretty high...

The Passing of a GREAT!!!!!


Happiness is...

(Jesse starts the talking)  "Now I realize some people reading this know what I truly believe is the source and cause of happiness. That hasn't changed. The title would more appropriately read "Happiness in aviation is...", but that isn't as catchy.

Happiness in aviation is walking out to the car after work and saying, "I think I'll take the -6A up for a spin." 25 minutes later I'm again walking out to the car with the biggest RV Grin. 0.3 hrs on the Hobbs, 1.8 gallons of $3.12 100LL, 2 aileron rolls and a majestic setting sun. Does aviation get any better than that?!

What is your "happiness in aviation is..." moment like?"


Pink Slip!! ...Greg Niehues

Still a few weeks away from first flight due to some lingering squawks and a few family commitments, but N16GN is official!! Thanks Mel!


Stuck! ...Vlad

I thought I would fit but the gap between the poles is 3" shorter then my wingspan.  Any ideas where I am?


From the Mothership FB page



January 8, 2016.  0035Z.   Issue No. 4,027.
  Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend! 

Sigh of relief ...Ray in WV

Received the pink slip today from Charlie Monola, FISDO Charleston, WV. He made the FAA look good with his great attitude, professionalism and here to help attitude. Now the fun begins. It's time to put to use the skills I learned from John "Jetguy" Asbury during the transition training last month.


Retired! ...Gerry Julian 6A

As of Thursday, Dec. 31, I am officially retired after a 35 year career as a physical therapist/clinic owner. Of course, this means more time at the hangar (finally get that GRT EFIS I've had lying around for a year installed), and more time in the air. There...this post is officially RV related! Time to start putting some real hours on Second Wind <g>


Rolled the Canoe ...Larry Larson 7A


Matt Dralle Update ...FB/Tim Brandt/Bob Leffler

Matt & Katie Update: Matt was moved today to the rehab hospital in Walnut Creek where he will be for the next several weeks. He starts work tomorrow.

Once we know Matt's schedule I will try to have a way to schedule people to go see him at the rehab hospital. I would like to have at least one visitor per day so that Matt has encouragement and friendly faces as Katie will not be there during the week after this weekend.


A few Maintenance items. Parts 1 and 2 ...John RV-12

Just replaced those cute little plastic inserts in the carb throttle arm where the springs attach. See parts 74 and 73 in the first pic. 788 hours on each one.


TeenFlight Puyallup celebrates 1st Flight

TeenFlight Puyallup celebrated the first flight of it's first student built RV-12 on December 10th, piloted by Marv Scott.  This is the first of three RV-12s currently under construction and we are expecting the next first flight by end of this school year.


Status Update ...crabandy pics


It's Alive!!! ...RV7Guy

Finally, my panel is lit up. I'm using the Vertical Power Primary Power System that provides power to the VP-X. There were a couple of wiring issues that Chad Jensen helped me work through. After that was done, we got the VP-X configured. Then, hit the switch and powered everything. All smoke stayed in the boxes. At this point, there are only 2 minor issues that I'm sure I will trace back to me

The equipment is as follows. 2 AFS 5500T (touch screen) EFIS's, Garmin 750, Garmin SL40, TruTrak Gemini 880, Garmin 330 remote mounted, CO Guardian 455, XM weather and radio, NavWorx ADS-B.


Thursday Morning No Flying

LIFR around here Thursday, so instead some talking, doing DB upgrades, solving the world's problems and lunch at Wendy's.  Afternoon looked good, though. 



January 7, 2016.  0036Z.   Issue No. 4,026.

  Me.  PIC.  IMC....the video

This could be the most boring video ever uploaded to the internet, but it means something to me.  My first PIC in the by God clouds in OMG IMC flying IFR.  LOL.  2,400' OVC and mist around N.Texas on the 6th, so I went up to KGLE (VFR) for $2.99 fuel, then got a pop up clearance back into KAFW on the way back.  ILS 16L.  At DH in VMC I cancelled and went back to my home field 3n.m. to the east.

It's only 1min 49sec, but it documents previously unseen white stuff around the canopy as I joined the localizer.  Kind of a non-event looking back.  I reached down to turn a knob and when I looked back up everything was white.  Eyes went straight to the PFD as trained.  Pretty neat feeling. 


related: My IFR Checkride


9A Status ...Ken Boyd

My RV9A flew for the first time on November 14, 2015. As of January 6, 2016 I have 25 hours of my 40 hours of test time flown off. I am very happy with the finished product.


All log books backed up! ...turbo and others

"...it only took ten minutes and a camera. this was my new years resolution to my aircraft. filed away in a safe deposit box, time well spent. the plan is to update the sd card at the beginning of each year. there are many good reasons to do this."


Met the newest RV on the block! ...Vlad re: Charlie

I flew to Columbia County airport 1B1 the other day. Look who is here. Charlie Luke and his brand spanking new RV! She is a beauty with dual GRT screens my old girl liked her.


Seat Belt cable magnetism with ADAHRS...need a fix ...Chad Hesterman

I'm wondering if anyone knows if there is a process to reduce the magnetism of the seat belt cables? I am having a bit of interference with my Dynon D6 and a much less extent, my Skyview. I have mounted the ADAHRS and D6 compass on a cross bar aft of the baggage compartment. The seat belt cables pass about 5 inches from them. I am getting some heading swing if I move the cables around. I am in the build stage of my 7A still, so I am looking for an easy solution if there is one. I have wrapped the cables in two layers of plastic shield, but no help.

Thanks for any ideas.


GoPro Mount for Top of VS ...rightrudder

And a Little Pull Ring


Upgraded Panel ...Walt

Another one I finished recently, nice clean simple VFR panel with room for upgrading to IFR later if desired.


WANTED: Beta Testers for New Construction Log App

(Ryan Asleson) "I'm nearing completion on a software application that experimental aircraft builders can use to log and record the construction process of the aircraft. The application allows the builder to create entries detailing specific work completed, including photographs. There are other features included to help the builder track the construction progress that I won't detail here, but are intended to help the builder visualize and document the construction progress.

I'm looking for builders who are actively in the construction process to serve as beta testers for the application. The ideal beta tester:

•Is actively constructing an experimental aircraft
•Uses a desktop internet browser such as Firefox, Chrome, Safari, or Edge/Internet Explorer
•Actively uses an iOS (iPhone or iPad) or Android mobile device
•Is willing to provide feedback such as bug reports, comments on features, or general recommendations

In return for their assistance, beta testers receive free lifetime use of the product.

If you are interested in becoming a beta tester, please call 612-246-4550 and leave a message that includes your email address and the type of mobile device (Android or iOS) you have."



January 6, 2016.  0024Z.   Issue No. 4,025.
  I spent the day nursing a sick kiddo.  The Tater's doing better, and I got a chunk of paperwork done.  


The Move to the Airport in Pictures ...John Walker RV-10

Finally catching up on an update.  We got a lot done in the week before Christmas.  Did the Matco Wheel and brake upgrade (finally) as well as the front axel upgrade. They had been on my list since the beginning but were in the "can happen anytime" pile... Along with some new Desser tires (oshkosh Special) and The plane Around Fairing spacers...

Related: The RV-10 Forum


David Paule RV-3B Status Update

With the flaps and ailerons done, I wrapped them in bubblepack and put them in the shop rafters. I think I should have adjusted the aileron pushrods before I did that, and I might pull the ailerons down and do just that. In the photo, we're looking almost straight up. The tan stuff is the sprayed-in foam and you can see one of the four electric radiant heaters, too.  more


Garmin Connect and D2

I've been loaned a D2 watch to abuse for a bit, and I thought I would ping out a thought or two.  Some screen grabs from the Connect app that you use with the watch below - three grabs from a walk on Monday afternoon, and some from a flight some time back.  It is similar to an iWatch re: its activity tracking features, but the flying aspect is actually kinda convenient.  For tracking a flight, if you're just wanting how far, how high, how long and a ground track, it's pretty painless, actually.  You just select 'Fly'...and then look at your phone after your flight.  It 'syncs' using lasers and ball bearings, or something.

Of note in the flying grabs you can see the green elevation graph showing the ILS into KAFW and then the RNAV 17 into Decatur.  In the pace graph of the walking grab you can see where I stopped to cross a couple of streets (waiting for cars) and where I stopped to talk to one of Tate's friends I passed there at the end.  Pretty neat.

Click to enlarge pics....

The 'high level' screen... ...tapping on the map gives... ...and tapping on the little square with a line graph in it gives you....  Bet you can tell when the autopilot was on <g>.


High level same as above... ...tapping on the little piece of paper with the bent corner gives... ....and the graph is like above.


Mystery Boats ...Vlad


Matt Dralle Update ...via FB via Tim Brandt via Bob Leffler

Matt & Katie update: Today Matt got to start eating semi-solid foods. He also is waiting for a room on the 4th floor so he is moving out of ICU. The boss and I went to see him at lunch and he looked really good. Really strong grip and doing well. There is a lot of work ahead for Matt but I know he can do it.

Matt will be soon moving to a Rehab Hospital sometime this week in Walnut Creek for several weeks.

Thank you for your continued prayers as Matt progresses.


1st GoPro video from my RV-4 ...Dean Pichon


Status: Dave Grimmer RV-8

Entered the canoe stage with the help of my son, who is becoming a good riveter.


New hole in my left finger

(JohnP MI) So, after telling myself over and over and over that it wouldn't happen to me, I managed to drill a neat 3/32" hole in my left middle finger.

How it happened... I was drilling the last hole in the right elevator outboard rib trailing tip of my RV-4. The space was too narrow to fit my standard wood drilling block, so I whipped out a new one from some 1/4" plywood I had laying around. I was down to the final two holes and was thinking ahead to the next step - deburring. In went the block of wood, the drill was centered, and I pulled the trigger. The next thing I knew, I could feel the drill bit twisting into my finger. Ouch. I was bleeding sawdust, aluminum, and blood.

What I learned... 110deg split-tip HSS drills cut through plywood like warm butter AND the drill stop exists for a reason. From now on I will be much more diligent about setting the drill stop depth correctly.



January 5, 2016.  0025Z.   Issue No. 4,024. 

Visiting family and friends ...N941WR

"Sometimes we simply forget what great traveling machines our RV’s are. More importantly, we forget what great friendship machines they are!

Three years ago, while attending the Triple Tree Fly-in my son, who was four at the time, and I walked back to the plane to get a toy out of the back and two gentlemen were giving it a pretty good inspection. As we walked up, I introduced myself and asked if they had any questions.

It turned out the son, Paul, had built an RV-6 and his father had just started on a -9 and was trying to decide where to put the little wheel. Neither had flown in a -9 or -9A so I offered both of them a ride, which they gratefully accepted. After the post flight debrief we each went our separate ways.

Later that day, while talking to another friend (I think it was Pierre), I noticed my son was running around with two little girls, the younger one being his age. After finishing with Pierre, I introduced myself to the girl’s mother and grandmother. While chatting with Mom and Grandmother, and watching the kids runaround, expending more energy than I expend in half a day, the two gentlemen I had previously given rides to approached and started chatting. As it turns out, the two ladies were their wives and the girls where their daughters/granddaughters."  continue


Crabandy RV-7 Status Report

Best build session I've had all year.....last couple of months included! Mr. Baby is down for a solid nap while the oldest 2 are actually interested in learning how to apply math with tape measures, ratios (mixing epoxy) and power tools while the 2 year old plays in the bucket of soapy water......

Here's the blank slate so to say, its been the front of my plane for 2 flying years and attacking it with 60 grit and sloppy epoxy has been the biggest hang-up of this project.  many pics


Mr. Ollie Washburn...Rest in Peace

(from Miles)  "Ollie Washburn, an RV-6A driver and the host for the Love's Landing Fly-ins (and my Dad's next-door neighbor when Dad was still there) passed away last week (Tuesday, I think) after a short illness. I haven't seen an obituary, but Ollie himself posted on Facebook on Christmas Eve that he had been in the hospital since Monday that week and was not feeling well. Then last Tuesday condolences on his loss started showing up.

Ollie and Loreen hosted my Dad's Celebration of Life in 2008 and for that I and my family will always be grateful."


Jan/Feb '16 FAA Safety Briefing is Online ...TOC below


Bagels and Cream Cheese ...Joe Wilbur RV-10

You know you've been at it a little too much when you feel compelled to sand your bagel after meticulously filling all the nooks and crannies with cream cheese.

Thankfully after a couple weeks of daily work on the cabin top, I can say it's finally done, painted, and almost fully installed. It isn't perfect, but it's pretty good if I do say so myself.



January 4, 2016.  0121Z.   Issue No. 4,023. 
Sunday morning before Mass I scooted out to the field for my first flight of 2016.  34*F and calm on the surface.  Thick air that works so well for spotting deer at slower speeds - counted sixteen in half an hour.  I don't think any of them even looked up.  Must be used to me.
  Back in the pattern, trimmed up with the AOA dialed in for final, I got one of those 'this is the greatest hobbies in the world' type feelings again.  I had the airport to myself, there weren't any bumps or crosswinds, and right as the wheels touched I dumped the flaps, stopping in 932' if you believe the ruler feature on GoogleEarth.  What a confidence builder!  These planes are absolutely amazing.
  Back home by 0930 for food, God, work, workout and football.  Hoping you had a nice holiday.  Lot of stuff in today's edition...lots of RVating over the holidays! 


First Flight Jeff Reins

"My Vans Aircraft RV8, N37HR, S/N 82310, was inspected on December 31, 2015. First flight was January 2, 2015. Flight was performed by Jay Pratt of RV Central, Saginaw, Texas. The plane is powered by an OX-340S-A1A2N, propeller is Hartzell HC-C2YR-1BF weight is 1043 lbs. Jay was excited about the acceleration on take off. Thank you Vans for the experience!
Jeff Reins
Canton, Texas"

From the test pilot Jay Pratt, "He used a ECI. O-340 Stroker rated at 177hp.
I was the pilot. I am impressed with this engine in Jeff's RV8!!! He has A Hartzell prop. The airplane weighed in at 1047."


Happy New Years from Maine @ 3000 ft ...pics from David

Hope everyone had a good holiday, took it easy last night so got up and headed to KBST for a 1st flight in 2016. A little cold -9c with 12kt crosswinds gusting to 18, but still nice day!


Update on Matt Dralle


2 Years to First Flight ...David Otero

One week shy of the 2 year anniversary of the day I started my RV-7, N505RV took to the air. Couldn't have happened without the help and support of my wonderful wife and great friends. I'll post more later.


RV-8 Blog ...welcome Chris Dupin


Mr. John Farnham...Rest in Peace  (posted by his son Ross)


2015 Review ...Jay Pratt starts the ball rolling

"...186.2 hours logged in all airplanes.

Flying Trips!

Sun N Fun and Key West in RV8 Borrowed Horse

Flew the Skywagon 'Paul Revere' to Spearfish, SD, Winifred, Montana, Kalaspell, Montana. Drove into Canada. Johnson Creek, Idaho, Salt Lake City, Utah, visited Park City.

Oshkosh in The RV8 'Borrowed Horse' ... After OSH, we flew to visit friends in Indiana, and Maine, drove into Canada, Prince Edward Island, camping along the Main and Canada coast. Then Flew to Watertown, NY and stayed a week with friends in a cabin on the St Lawrence River. On our way home we stopped and visited more friends in Missouri. Saw a bunch of springs and parks."  continue


Status: Katie B's RV-3

Tail's on! Temporarily, of course. Still a lot of work to do with control surface rigging, trim tab cable routing (grrr), and fiberglass.


New Years flight ...Brent Connelly RV-12 video


Teen RV-12 Build Project - Brighton, MI (45G) ...Jason Burton

Now that my first official post on the board was a plea for help regarding fuselage instructions, my second post is a formal introduction of myself and the RV-12 build project that my son (Collin, 13) and I have become heavily involved with since August.

My name is Jason Burton and I am a Private Pilot and one of the lead mentors for a teen RV-12 build project that is taking place at Brighton Airport (45G), in Brighton, MI.

We have approximately 12 boys ages 13-17 who work on the project twice per week with between 3 and 9 adult mentors. Admittedly, this is my first time building and airplane, but I grew up in the Tool & Die trade, and my career involves engineering and manufacturing of tools for stamping, molds, medical, etc..., so I consider myself to be mechanically inclined, and love working with my hands. Most of our mentors, including myself, are members of EAA Chapter 384, which is based at 45G, and are either experienced pilots, builders, or both. In face, one of our main sponsors completed a beautiful RV-6A several years ago, which he still owns.  continue


cderk RV-10 Status Update


143WM is flying again! ...yankee-flyer RV-12

After waiting 6 weeks and 1 day for new prop blades from Sensenich and then almost two weeks of miserable (300 and a half one day) Ohio weather, she finally flew today-- two flights working on prop pitch and just enjoying being off the ground again. Still a little tweaking to do on the prop but she's close.

Thanks for all the help, information, and encouragement, too.

P.S. No fuel flow alarms with new Kavlico sensor installed while there was nothing else to to.


Cascade Range - Mt Baker Area ...rockwoodrv9 trip writeup


DIY Painting ...Steve M. updates


Rocky Mountain New Year ...mchargmg

Sabrina and I took the Sabrina Lee to Buena Vista today. A beautiful trip as always. Here is the view coming into town.


Famous Visitor ...Joe

The world's only flying RV-14A, spotted at my house!


James Clark IV First Eight Flights....and some polishing



January 1, 2016.  0104Z.   Issue No. 4,022. 
Farewell 2015.  Wishing you, your families and your friends a happy, safe, healthy and RV-filled 2016.  Thank you for letting our family be a small part of it.  The people I meet through this site make me a better person, and for that I am forever grateful.


Vlad Wishes Us Well ...as only he can.


Matt Dralle Recovering

(Bob Leffler)  Many know Matt due to his Matronics mailing lists or his Mykitlog.com website and Kitlog build tracking application.

Regrettably, Matt had a stroke earlier in the week. I'm posting this on VAF because to minimize any potential hate mail sent his direction for lack of responsiveness in supporting these products. Unfortunately it's going to be awhile before he will be able to respond to any inquiries.

Matt needs our prayers as he recovers. The following was posted to his FB page last night.

Matt Update: He is responding to comments being made by squeezing Katie's hand and he was able to answer his age by using his one hand. All early indicators are that he is doing ok.

Katie sends her thanks for the prayers and that they are definitely helping


Check those oil screens ...Vic

I come across many RV's who's operators forget to check the oil screen on the engine. It should be checked at least once per year during the annual or whenever the internal health of the engine is in question. Here is a picture of one I removed from an RV10 yesterday that should drive the message home. IO-540 with 10:1 pistons and only 600 hours. I don't know when the screen was last checked, but clearly there is lots of blowby. All of the chunks were carbon, the screen was about 50% blocked, with one cylinder at 48/80 and 54/80 and all of the leakage going by the rings.


New Years Day Nor Cal Willows Lunch

There are a few of us planning to fly to Nancy's in Willows CA at 11:00 New Year Day. If we fill up Nancy's like last year it's a short walk across the freeway to Black Bear Diner. Hope to see a lot of you there. Happy New Year start it off right with a log book entry.


Is this the correct accessory case for my engine?

I have a disassembled O-320-E2A that I want to overhaul. Someone else had started it before me.

The accessory case had already been yellow tagged, cleaned and painted but I am a suspicious type. It looks like this:


December 31, 2015.  0055Z.   Issue No. 4,021. 
WAASUP!:  Antennae Placement Matters 

(quick/dirty bullet points because I've got a lot on my plate year end)
The video is at: https://youtu.be/3rQC5IC0zgE

  • 1080pHD should display using FireFox.  You might be able to read the panel using that.  My I.E. browser displays it in 720pHD.
  • Background music 'Sleepy Head' used w/permission of the singer/co-writer (Jamie Woodson of the band 'Room Full of Walters').  I worked with Jamie in cube land for a few years.  The first words of the song are 'Three coins in a fountain...'.  Jamie's falsetto main vocal with normal range voice in background really works.  Hook city.  Prince-like.
  • Broken layer 700' less than 200' thick a little north of our field breaking up fast.  Perfect for IFR baby steps with still-wet rating.
  • Launched 52F VFR and climbed to 2700.
  • The straight segments of the flight with no audio were sped up 800%.
  • Contacted Approach and asked for the RNAV 36 at nearby DTO.
  • DTO was broken at 700 and reporting IFR.  If you look close, there are some clouds for a bit.  I swear.
  • Around 2min 30sec I active 'Vectors-To-Final' and get the LPV annunciation.
  • Around 3min 40sec the WAAS logic decides it doesn't like that my fuselage is between the antennae and the WAAS satellite (described in detail bottom of list).  Within a minute the vertical guidance went away (I was VFR, as the clouds had broken up faster than anticipated).
  • LPV annunciation reappeared and disappeared.  LNAV it is...raised minimums per the chart.
  • A big hole in the clouds let me stare at the runway the entire way down.  No clouds were hurt.
  • The guy in the DTO tower sounded like he had a jawbreaker in his mouth when I went missed.
  • VFR back to 52F.  Cool to see how much the stick really gets stirred around in the flare.
  • An email exchange with TOP. MEN. later produced the following:
    "Background reading: HERE .  Real time GPS satellite status map: HERE .  Decoder ring for the previous: HERE .
    For your location, you were likely using WAAS satellite 138, which happens to be straight south of you. In fact, if I plug in the lat/lon of KDTO into this webpage: HERE ...it shows that PRN 138 is at an azimuth of 198 degrees, and an elevation of 50 degrees above the horizon."
  • My WAAS antennae is the upper left one below.  Starting the GS segment of the approach pissed that antennae off.
  • I wish I could play guitar as well as Jamie, and I miss playing acoustics with him during lunch when we lived in the movie 'Office Space'.
  • Logged .5hr,  .3 in the IFR system.
  • Progress.  Still hard to believe some of this stuff actually makes sense to me now.  I'm as shocked as you.


Mag timing most foul ...Bob Collins

I need someone to look over my shoulder and tell me what I'm doing wrong.

Just got the Slick 4371 mag (with impulse coupling) back from inspection. Set the engine to 25 degrees BTC and, with timing pin in, attached said mag, and reinstalled hold down nuts loosely.

Attached light in which open points are indicated by LED going out and beeping starting.

Adjusted mag til I found the sweet spot and tightened (removed timing pin before doing so). Then swung the prop around and the next ti!me around on the #1 compression stroke, the points didn't open until almost TDC.

I repeated this process several times with the same results. What am I doing wrong?



I win the dumbest all time mistake ...Michael Burbidge

I was removing the long studs to install my p-mag. I used the double not method which worked well, until I dropped one of the nuts into the accessory case. Talk about taking the wind out of my sails.

Any suggestions for retrieving the nut? I suspect it is in the oil sump.


Brian Chesteen Update

Folks that have followed me over the past 2 years know that I have made some drastic changes in my life to do my part in improving my chances at a long life to be here for my family and to enjoy flying the RV.

Losing 135lbs and taking up recreational running and participating in half marathons on each coast of the country and training up to 30 miles a week have been huge milestones in my life the past 2 years.

Some also know that I became the owner of 2 coronary stents at the ripe old age of 38 back in 2008. Since then I have been tied to the special issuance medical program in order to fly as PIC. It was touch and go back then to realize that I was building a RV that at the time I did not know if I would ever be able to fly as PIC of or not. Lucky for me, I met the SI standards and flew the RV in 2010.    continue


DIY Painting Update ...Steve Melton


And the flooding begins ...plehrke

Last weekend's 8-10" of rain across most of Missouri is starting to take its toll on the general aviation airports. Smartt Field (SET) already had water over its runways yesterday and many airplanes flew over to Creve Coeur (1H0) but now Creve Coeur is slowely starting to flood. Just a few inches yesterday on the north east hangers but rising. Latest prediction is it will get to my hanger on the north west corner.

I am in the middle of condition inspection so RV is total disassembled. Thought it would be nice time to do a bit extra inspection during the holidays. Then came the rain and who would have thought of flooding at Christmas.

Prediction is I will have 1-3" of water in my hanger 3-5 days from now. Time to hustle the final items on the inspection list and get everything back together and off the floor.

I think it is going to be a long winter and spring fretting about flooding until August.


December 30, 2015.  0046Z.   Issue No. 4,020. 
Still Fiddling w/1080pHD 

Uploaded a short 5min clip from Tue in varying lighting conditions to both https://vimeo.com/150283053 and https://youtu.be/41yAOX3wfjY.  18min flight monitoring approach and KAFW tower.  Youtube will show it in 1080pHD if I'm view through Firefox, but not through I.E.  Vimeo wants $60/yr to show 1080p.  So, click on the Youtube link using Firefox ;^).

Thinking of ways to build a custom mount for the camera that would place it just above my right shoulder, closer to the panel.  I really want to be able to read the panel clearly, hear the audio and capture the fun more accurately.

I'll make it work...still fiddling. 


New pilot in Socal ...Brian Pham (Optometrist. Long Beach, CA)

Hi guys. I'm a new pilot (just passed my check-ride for light sport 2 weeks ago!!). I'm interested in buying an RV6 and was wondering if there's anyone here in Socal who would like to meet up/ hang out/ fly and let me pick their brains a little.

My plan is to get an RV6 and find someone who will train me in it for me to get my private certificate. The trick is to find a CFI who also has experience in an RV and willing to train me in it.

If there's anyone here who has any suggestions, that would be greatly appreciated!

I'm looking at an RV6 right now to buy and it seems like a great deal, so I'll need to act on it soon. But I want to make sure I can find someone who will train me in it before buying.

Thanks in advance for all your comments/ suggestions.



EarthX Battery Box Photos ...Darwin Barrie

Here's the battery box I made for the 36C, installed on the firewall of my new 7. I used 1/2" angle and some scrap .032 sheet. The box was powder coated. 6 ounces. TT to build about 4 hours including a rough sketch.


I have quit flying  [ed. Our friend needs our prayers. dr]

...for a while.  My wife has a Glioblastoma Grade 4 tumor in her brain..this type of cancer is awful.

Surgery was on December 17. We start radiation/chemo process today. It will run 5 days a week for 6 weeks, will resume flying when I can.
David Domeier
RV-7A...Sold #70374
The RV-8...#83261 flying as of 6/16/2014


Uneven Airflow Update ...N412HC

So, the numbers are in. I replaced my ECI updraft sump with the superior updraft sump. Unfortunately the numbers did not improve as much as I hoped. Here are the numbers from my test flight climbing to 8500':


EGT's - 1220,1080,1215,1070
CHT's - 386,372,365,359


EGT's - 1195,1260,1190,1280
CHT's - 352,397,334,384
GAMI - 1.2

So, the numbers are a little tighter and GAMI went down a little, but not enough to justify the money I spent on the new sump. Oh well. So, I need to look elsewhere to figure out the uneven airflow.


7A Pic ...Stan Bahrns


December 29, 2015.  0051Z.   Issue No. 4,019. 
VansAirForce.net Shirt Wearer Walking the Walk

(click to enlarge - note Witt's shirt <g>)

(from Whit Nanna)  "I wanted to share a photo from West Africa where I've been deployed for the last couple months. We volunteered at a nearby orphanage yesterday and got to spend some time playing soccer with the kids. What a blast!

They have several children in need of sponsorship and I figured there may be some in the RV community that would LOVE to help. It's similar to a lot of other programs and for $35/mo, school, supplies, food and medical care are covered. Also, Sheltering Wings is tax deductible and accepts paypal donations if anybody is looking for an additional year-end giving source and a chance to make a huge difference.

Hope all is well in the States. There are definitely no winter storms out here near the equator. Stay warm!

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!"

fmi: About the site logo / how to get it on stuff


How many fuses needed?

Seems like a simple question, but proving not to be.
How many fuses are needed in a full IFR dual screen system?

I'm on my 3rd panel on the -6A, and every re do added more fuses. Now I'm planning the -10 electrical. I'm at the point I need to start mounting the fuse block and don't want to get caught short on fuses.

Btw, I am set on fuses not VP or breakers.
Fuse block is being mounted to the wall where my left knee would be.

I am thinking I will go with the Cooper Bussmann 15712 or the 15401
You can have up to 32 fuses on these. The 15401 adds relays to the block.

The advantage to the 15712 is it can have a low profile cover if only using fuses.
The advantage to the 15401 is the addition of relays, but it has a tall cover.

Both can use Cooper's circuit breakers in the blade type fuse holder. This adds the advantage of going with a few breakers in the same fuse block. But this drives a higher cover.

Would I need more than 32 fuses?
Relays might be nice for switching on the 2nd buss or to use micro switches on the panel. They were not needed in my -6a's system, but might be nice in the -10


New 9A builder

"Now that I have airplane parts in my garage I want to officially introduce myself. I am David Randall from Western New York. I bought Aaron Arvid's kit in Minneapolis. My wife and I flew out there and packed up his finished tail and unfinished wing kit in early December.  Recently finished my wing stands. Now to learn how to use all these tools I have never used before. Here are my sons learning with me as we work on the practice airfoil kit. I got each a Van's tool box kit for Christmas so we'll start those soon. In 2 weeks we take my older son to Daytona to his first semester at Embry-Riddle University so I want to get him rivetting before then. Couldn't hurt learning that since he is an aerospace engineering student.  I'm sure I'll have many questions so please be gentle on this newbie!! I want to thank Vlad for my first RV ride and Andy Turner for following up the week after that with a ride in his beautiful RV-10. You guys are great RV ambassadors."


Broken Throttle Springs ...RV-12

I have experienced three broken throttle springs now in 80hrs of flight. They are the new springs (Vans part SPRING-00002, McFarlane part 6822) made by McFarlane for the vernier throttle. See service bulletin 14-12-16.

The springs were installed by hand, so it could not be nicks caused by pliers.

Ken at Van's support was not aware of any issues with the new springs. I also have an inquiry in to McFarlane.

Anybody else out there having problems with the new springs breaking?



December 28, 2015.  0043Z.   Issue No. 4,018. 
Hydroguy2 House/Hangar Update

[ed.  That is drop dead gorgeous, Brian!  Very happy for you!  dr]


First Engine Start ...rightrudder pics and video


Story of the Year ...from Bob Collins' day job

"...a tribute to everyone who moves forward."


How many miles did you fly in 2015?..Rosie throws down


Los Angeles to England in an RV-8.  By Mark Albery (Avweb)


Almost Done w/Fiberglass ...KHeidorn pics


212kt GS ...Joe w/a 40kt tailwind


Site Mascot Gets Into Some Chocolate

While in Waco on Christmas Day, Moondog found some Hershey Kisses under a chair (possible placement by grandkids).  So, we spent some time that afternoon/evening at the vet getting an X-ray to see if he ate the foil wrappers, too.  Didn't.

  • Gas money to/from Waco for Christmas with Mom-in-Law:  $40
  • Cleaning supplies to clean up dog barf: $5
  • Finding a vet open on Christmas: Priceless $233.  ;^)

We're glad the little fart is going to be OK. 

Moondog requested the modesty screen.
I may have exaggerated it for comedic effect.


DIY Painting ...Steve Melton update


From the Mothership 


Family Christmas in the Hangar ...Mike Hillger

Normally, we push the plane out for our large family Christmas party. The West Texas Blizzard forced us to let the RV7 be included in the celebration.


RV-7 Status Report ...George Fahmy


Found Online: German Guitar Maker w/RVs on the Fretboard



December 24-25, 2015.   Issue No. 4,017. 


Goodbye 2015 ...Vlad starts it

It was a great year of flying my RV9A. I had 245 VFR Days and flew 587 trouble free hours enjoying every minute of it (vs 262d/620h in 2014). Looking forward to better 2016!

Highlights of the year. Mo's Ice Flyin on Ottawa River Canada.  continue/many pics


From the mothership FB page


More DIY Painting Pics ...Steve Melton

"...fairing looks good, no immediate orange peel, urethane likes to be room temp, cold paint goes on too thick and can cause orange peel when hanging to cure. I'll post of picture of this tomorrow to see the overnight effects."


North Pole RNAV (GPS) Rwy 18


20 minutes condensed to 6   

Tuesday morning I flew over to KAFW and shot the 16L ILS.  Captured the flight from radios ON to clear of the active - experimenting with the VIRB camera.  This at 720pHD, so you can't really read the panel.  You can probably make out when I turn onto the localizer and put the chart up on the MFD.  A sunset flight should be next test of this equipment, and at 1080pHD.  90% of the video is played 800% faster than recorded...you shouldn't get too bored.  I turned the autopilot on for a bit while established on the GS, just for giggles.

The VIRB video editing software has some new overlays which were neat to see (the 'gauges' on the right side).  And I'm sorry our runway is as bad looking as it is.  Several of us are quite embarrassed and are working the problem.

Anyway, something to do at work for six minutes if you're bored. 

1080p HD upload test of a portion of this video:
(seems to work on my FireFox but not in IE...looking into it)



12/23/2015.  0001 UTC.  Issue No. 4,016. 
DIY Painting ...Steve Melton

top cowl. I heated the paint and reducer to 70F before mixing by placing in a box in front of an electric heater. I heated the hangar to 24C and the booth temp for the first coat was 80F and finish painting booth temp was 70F. I used DT885 reducer to try to get a nice smooth finish. I painted the part upside down. the warm paint was thinner, had better flow and was overall easier to work with. added that to my checklist. towards the aft I managed to loose the paint line and also got the gun to close and saw the effects of paint "swoosh" in all directions from the air pressure. I thought I had ruined it but slowly it began to heal itself. other than this defect I'm happy with it.

also, the day before I forgot to clean my gun after K36. that took a full hour to clean. another painful lesson.

the "swoosh" run is just behind the reflection of the wire. I will get another picture of this tomorrow to see the effects of gravity overnight.  continue


Surgery Update ...Ed Wischmeyer

Was surprised and disappointed when they said they'd keep me overnight but boy was that a good call on their part!! Was hurting immediately post op. And I'm getting IV antibiotics.

As advertised, this surgery was lots less invasive than the last one - I was able to eat dinner the day of surgery. Letting the bone graft heal won't be any faster, though.

Will go home today to a very clean house.

Thanks to all for prayers and support!


Towbar ...DanH

A personal tradition; I build a new towbar for every new project. Thought you might like to see this one.


Mods ...Lance Logan

Here's a couple of pics ("I hope" says the caveman) this is a little different than what I did on the RV8A. The 6 exhaust is angled much more sharply down, so no center piece. The ramp that guides the air out of the cowl is likely as responsible as the 'flow straightener', but I'm too lazy to take the cowl of just to get a pic. Sorry about the dirty bottom... been doing a little acro.



12/22/2015.  0021 UTC.  Issue No. 4,015. 
Early Winter Fun ...Jesse Bentley

Breakfast at Lone Rock Saturday morning then down to Ron Moring's place for a little airplane geek out session. (He's well along on a Glasair Sportsman project) Ron grabbed these pics as I departed in the snow. Amazing how a little snow in the grass shortens your landing roll out!


Glass RV10 ...Troy Branch

Today I was given an early Xmas gift by one of my Employees. I talk airplanes often at work and she is so nice to always listen. Her hobby is making all kinds of things out of glass. Everyone needs hobbies and melting glass is a pretty cool hobby to say the least.

She surprised me today with what she thought was not the perfect airplane and was concerned about what I would think. Well it is an amazing feat to make such a thing out of glass and I was very happy with what I saw. You have to hand cut all the parts and then lay them on top of one another before placing them in the oven. You never really know what the final result will be. I know many hours was spent on this and I am very thankful for such a gift. It is melted onto a colored glass and then placed in a frame. I had not idea you could do this with glass.

I took her and her husband in the RV10 this summer, both very nervous flyers on commercial jet aircraft....they can't wait to go back up in the RV10. Much better experience for them.

The Branchair family is happy to hang this on the wall.


Status ...Gregg Brightwell

Flipped the Canoe! Big Milestone for me.  Well, the last week or so, I have been taking care of odds and ends, while waiting for a rivet partner. Steve was able to come by today, and we knocked out the right side of the forward fuse, and a few fasteners on the firewall. Here is a pic after we were done riveting.


AcroBox- an app for aspiring aerobatic pilots

...free app from Brad Benson


What happen to this cotter pin?

(AX-O)  I went flying again yesterday and during my preflight I found this. It was not there before the previous flight. no signs of hitting anything. Any ideas on what could had caused this? I was thinking a rope but I have not been around any ropes. BTW, that is a DJM 4 inch wheel. Love it.


Carlos' Static Line Run Pics



12/21/2015.  0107 UTC.  Issue No. 4,014. 
Surgery and Full RV Proficiency ...Ed Wischmeyer

The good news is that I'm getting my third (and hopefully last!) back surgery on Monday, but the challenge is maintaining the high level of proficiency required to make RV flying rewarding.

The brief history:
* Three years ago, laminectomy with bilateral foraminotomy. The challenge after that surgery was regaining G tolerance. I don't think that I ever got it back more than about 3 Gs, pretty low.
* A year ago was the mother of all surgeries, spinal fusion from L1 - L5, with full recovery taking a year. I started flying after six months (with a CFI buddy, a really good call, even in my docile old Cessna), and when the Cessna sold, bought an RV-9A and added a second G3X touch screen. What with weather, flu, and other interruptions, I'm barely up to comfortable proficiency with the G3X and have not flown the RV-8 nearly enough. My last flight in the RV-8 was within my acceptable limits but I was working too hard;
* Monday, I'll get extreme lateral interbody fusion L1 - L2 because, as sometimes happens, the last surgery didn't heal completely. No riding in cars for two weeks, no driving for six, but full recovery after 12 weeks;
* I'm now 66 and have been physically fit my entire life.  continue


RV-14 Avionics Update ...from mothership



DIY Painting Update ...Steve Melton

The long gear leg fairings developed slight orange peel when left hanging vertical. I painted these horizontal and they were perfectly smooth. the paint gun did not cause orange peel. it was simply the vertical orientation. the small fairing more horizontal surfaces (where it fairs for the attachment holes) are smooth. for this case, my conclusion is orange peel was simply caused by the paint flowing downhill. there are probably other causes for orange peel.


Probable Cause List Updated

The (14) probable cause documents (duplicated below) in the list have been published since 9/6/15 (the last time I updated).  The publication date is the last column on the far right side.  Two had fatalities, and all but one were VFR.

Accident Number Event Date Location
GAA16CA018 10/12/2015 San Marcos, TX
CEN14LA424 08/09/2014 Russell, IA (fatalities / IMC)
CEN15LA179 03/23/2015 Marathon, TX
WPR15LA092 01/26/2015 Seabeck, WA (fatalities)
WPR12LA321 07/14/2012 Novato, CA
GAA15CA093 05/23/2015 Lorain/Elyria, OH
GAA15CA056 04/30/2015 Tunica, MS
GAA15CA040 04/11/2015 LaFayette, GA
ERA15LA205 05/05/2015 Bartow, GA
CEN14LA471 09/01/2014 Las Cruces, NM
WPR13LA093 12/31/2012 Las Vegas, NV
ERA14CA265 05/25/2014 Harpswell, ME
CEN14CA264 05/21/2014 Rockwell City, IA
WPR14LA046 11/02/2013 Wickenburg, AZ

PLEASE read, digest and discuss these...and learn.

Yours in promoting safety,


How tall is your Xmas Tree?

Vlad's is 309,000'...


PMAG Issue/Fix ...AX-O

Today i wanted to go flying. So i did the preflight, had my test plan ready and pushed the plane out. During the preflight i moved the exhaust pipes and the right pair felt a little different. Humm, that is a little weird.

I started the plane and all appered to be working well. When i did the mag checks i knew something was wrong immediately. After troubleshooting i noticed that the number 3 cylinder egt was dropping as soon as i killed the good mag. Pretty easy to see with the engine monitor.

So i taxied back and started to remove the cowl. As soon as the cowl was off, the problem was easily spotted, one of the PMAG wires (#3, imagine that) came off the back of the PMAG. I put the wire back in but the standard click when correctly set on the PMAG did not happen. I found an unused new wire and gave it a try. Click!! So i checked some of the other wires and 3 more were extremely easy to remove. No click. I took some needle nose pliers and crimped the metal portion of the wire. Now they all click and feel secure.

I am not sure what happen. The plane now has 15 hours on it. I know that when i made the wires, they clicked nicely when installed. I will keep an eye on them.

As i was checking around before putting the cowl back on, i found a broken adel clamp. The one that held the right exhaust pair to the engine mount. Well that makes sense.

Got everything back together and went flying. Had a great flight. Has anyone had a similar issue with the wire coming off the back of the PMAG? My guess is mine came off during last flight because the previous mag check passed on the ground.


Never seen this before

Poking around in Garmin Pilot low level IFR charts over the weekend, and came across squiggly lines.  Screen grab below.  I have no idea what it means - my guess is 'don't use this line'.  Thoughts?

(update from FAA friend)  "unusable route segment. usually some sort of restricted area or warning area is nearby or overlaps the 4 mile width each side of center."


Mods and new cruise speed ...hlangebro

Finally, I broke 170ktas with my 160hp 7A!!
The changes since last time was: vhf and vor antenna fairings, ailerons reflexed to match the flaps (-2deg), elevator trim rod fairings, aileron fences!
170ktas at 75% and 160ktas at 65%!
This is a 2-3ktas increase since last change.
So far I have a 12.7% drag reduction since phase 1. Flat plat drag has come done from 2.36sqft to 2.06sqft.
My cruise at 65% is almost the same as the cruise at 75% when I started modding!


3.8 Cumulative GPA So Far...update

Permit me a moment to brag on our daughter (the 'AR' in N617AR).  The daughter who earned her allowance for years by updating the RV White Pages.  Audrey got her Fall '15 grades from SMU over the weekend (junior majoring in chemistry) - formula sheet for her Physical Chem class HERE (wow). 

Posting this so you can 'keep track of your investment'.  Go Audrey! 



12/18/2015.  0107 UTC.  Issue No. 4,013. 
Pop-Up IFR Clearance Works

Baby steps with this new IFR rating, and keeping the brain cells stretched out a little.  Thursday 18 minute CAVU VFR fuel run up to KGLE.  My home field is where it says 'Active Log' in the pic....Gainesville upper left.  After gassing up ($3.40) I launched and contacted approach while circling at 2,500' a couple miles west of Gainesville (waiting for a pause in a very busy approach frequency).  They gave me a squawk, a climb to 3,000' and vectors to the localizer on the 16L ILS approach at KAFW (the red line below is the IFR portion of the day - WIGZU is where the little bend is).  Switch to tower when told, joined the localizer, captured the glideslope and hand flew down to minimums where I went missed and cancelled IFR for the VFR return to 52F.  Blue lines logged VFR.

Added about .2hr to the normal fuel run, but gave me a tiny bit more experience "in the IFR system".  Eighteen minutes more experience to be exact.  No clouds were harmed...or even seen.

This might be my new fuel run routine.  Again, baby steps.  Good brain food.

(click to enlarge)

related: Doug's IFR Checkride


Tom Swearengen Update ...from Tom

Welll since its the time of year to state what we are grateful for, I have a few. I've previously mentioned the Dr's, nurses and staff that saved my life. To Suzanne, who has been by my side for 5 years, but even more the past 5 weeks. To the RV community and Doug and Susie, all of you have been so compassionate, it makes the healing process much easier. Lee Logan, Dennis Argetsinger, Ray Eaker for constantly checking on me, and offering lot of help. (no my 7 isnt finshed yet) .

Santa does come around. Thought he was in Texas at Rick's place but he found his way to SC, but in the form of a Realtor. Leased a house in Ridgeland, pretty close to 3J1, and we will be moving mid January.
What that means to the RV community is that I'll have a much larger area to develop and build the components and assemblies for you. Suzanne will have the office space she wants (I think), and over all a better deal for us. We arent foreseeing any delays for customers (normally), although the past 5 weeks havent been normal to us anyway.

WE certainly want to thank all the RV community for their prayers, cards, emails, phone calls and text messages from all over the world. Its a very great feeling to have!

Merry Christmas to all----and keep building and flying.
Tom and Suzanne.


Status Report ...crabandy

I'm playing around with making my own round inlets for the front of the cowl. Time to fire up my Wife's router for the first time, It was her not so popular Christmas present several years ago.......go ahead and laugh I really should've known better....   I ordered a circle jig and several router bits, the first cut was on the circle jig itself to make room for a 7/8 core box bit.  continue


Vinal Wrap's effect on LEDs and Comms (a good news story) ...Sid

So I've been flying my newly-wrapped RV-7A KELLI GIRL (thanks again Scott Farnsworth and AircraftWraps.com). She flies as good as she now looks, but right up front I've encountered a totally new issue involving my LED nav/beacon lights and my VHF comms.

The airplane.

The lights: AeroLED Pulsar nav/strobes in the wings, and the SunTail position/strobe in the tail.

The radio: PS Engineering PAR100EX. (BTW, my comms 2 is the Dynon SkyView VHF, but this problem didn't impact that radio).

The problem: With the strobes and nav/position lights turned on, I got terrible noise on the PAR100EX radio on all frequencies. To be clear, it's not through the intercom function: It's through the radio when that radio is selected. The PAR100EX radio transmitted clearly, but the noise was excessive in receive mode. My friend Blake Graham and I checked both VHF antennae to be sure they were mounted properly (the AircraftWraps folks had to remove them for the vinal wrap job). Yes, they were properly remounted and grounded to the ground plane. We also swapped both antennae to see if the problem migrated from Comm 1 to 2....no dice.  continue


Special Sealant Gun Package Deal for VAF - Limited Quantity Available ...Brown Tool

We recently purchased a LARGE lot of used/surplus tools from a major aircraft manufacturing facility in Wichita, KS. Included in that lot were a quantity of used Semco Pneumatic Sealant Guns. If you bought these Sealant Guns 'new', they would cost you $150 - $200. We have put together a combo/package deal with a used Sealant Gun and a kit of brand new accessories. Everything you need to EASILY apply aircraft sealant right where you want it. This is a one time deal and is limited to our surplus Sealant Gun inventory on hand.

1 ea. USED Semco Pneumatic Sealant Gun w/ 2-1/2 oz Retainer
(Sealant Gun is used - it will have all of the nicks, scratches, engravings, etc. that you would expect to see on a used Sealant Gun. It has been thoroughly tested and is in EXCELLENT operational condition and has plenty of useful life left.)
5 ea. 220323 NEW Semco 2-1/2oz Empty Sealant Cartridges
5 ea. 220544 NEW Semco 4" Sealant Nozzles
2 ea. 229394 NEW Semco Sealant Spreader/Squeegee
1 ea. BAT-SSK3PC NEW 3pc Sealant Spatula Kit w/ Pouch

If you bought all of these items separately, you would pay $81.25 (If you bought a new Sealant Gun with these accessories, you would pay around $200!) Take advantage of this special VAF package deal and pay only $60!


Garmin Pilot Introduces Lockheed Martin Flight Plan Filing ...v8.0

When filing an Instrument Flight Rules (IFR) or Visual Flight Rules (VFR) flight plan within Garmin Pilot, on iOS and Android devices, the app conveniently files the flight plan directly with Lockheed Martin to ensure precise delivery in the standard International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) format. Flight plans may be filed without credentials and are immediately available to air traffic control. Pilots may also select an FAA domestic flight plan filing option within the app, depending on preference and location. Pilots also receive preferred routing, which presents a summary of similar routes that have been cleared by ATC to other aircraft flying the same departure/destination airport pair.

Additionally, Garmin Pilot for iOS devices has incorporated a redesigned Trip Planning page, which includes a few additional features that provide convenient access to pertinent flight plan information. Within Trip Planning, pilots may view specific details regarding their flight plan and display details pertaining to their flight in a navigation log format. The addition of a weather brief icon within the Trip Planning page allows pilots to conveniently receive a legal weather briefing via Garmin Pilot, which displays testual weather products including: SIGMETs, AIRMETs, METARs, TAFs, PIREPs and more.


VAF Migration Update

Upgrading the server here in a month or so (Plan 'A').  Three more processors, 30% faster disk drives, 4GB RAM, some SQL tweaking, etc.  I'll keep you in the loop.  *Should* equate to faster site. 


Reeves Family Christmas Update

Drove down to Highland Park in tuxedos and gowns to look at the competition.  By tuxedos and gowns I mean sweats and baseball caps.  The top picture is a house of interest down by where Jerry Jones lives.  The second pic is my daughter's apartment at SMU a few blocks away.  I actually kinda prefer hers...  dr

32.832630, -96.796603 (ish). 
Beverly street in Highland Park (Dallas).



12/17/2015.  0121 UTC.  Issue No. 4,012. 
28,180' ...Nigel Speedy (Tehachapi, CA)

Today I set out to find out how high my 8 would go. I did some level accel's from 2 to 18k to determine the climb performance and then came up with a climb schedule to do a ceiling climb. Taking off out of Mojave at 1600 lbs I used 120 KIAS to 10,000', 100 KIAS to 15,000', 90 KIAS to 20,000', 80 KIAS to 25,000', 75 KIAS to 27,000' then 70 KIAS which got me up to 28,000'.

Some observations. It's bloody cold up high. Aluminum is a great conductor of heat. Pens and iPhones don't work very well when cold. The RV-8 cabin heater is no match for -40C. The Dynon Skyview system stops reporting OAT below -32C.

The flight was spoiled by being passed as traffic to a jet climbing out of China Lake as "a very slow moving RV at 280". Granted 38 knots ground speed is a little on the slow side for an RV.

These planes really need a blower or turbo to increase the shabby high alt performance.

(from a later reply by OP)  "I work at NTPS and we have a good relationship with the controlling agency for the Isabella MOA and they routinely allow us to operate aircraft VFR up to 290 and above. So I just put myself on the flying schedule and flew to work and used a work call sign. I actually asked for 300 in a fit of optimism and they approved that once airborne. You could just file IFR though. Be prepared for a long climb, it took me 40 minutes to get from 2700' to 28000'. I spent about 5 minutes up there messing around with different mixture settings and airspeeds but the novelty wore off pretty quick. One of those things you do once to say you did, but I think 18000 is a more practical ceiling (the engine actually makes enough power that the heater works & you can use a cannula instead of a mask) unless there was a scorching tailwind that you just couldn't pass up. I wore a pulse oximeter and lowest I saw was 92% O2 Sat. Have fun exploring."


My first GoPro video ...kaweeka

My first attempt at video editing. A few flights in my -9A from Sacramento to Tahoe compiled with music. Suggestions welcome. I'm hoping Santa brings me a second one to mount at the tail...


DIY Painting Update ...Steve Melton words and pics


Critique my panel, please

We are up the stage of panel layout. Most of the equipment is purchased - just trying to fine tune the layout.



12/16/2015.  0027 UTC.  Issue No. 4,011. 
Condition Inspection - Trick Learned ...Randy Pflanzer (Martinsville, IN)

I'm about 2/3rds of the way thru the condition inspection and I discovered a little trick that, at least I, didn't know about before. You know how difficult it is to get the bowl off of the Andair gascolator on the -12? Well, pulling it off has always been difficult for me........until my brain checked in. I realized that I was pulling against a vacuum in the fuel system. Once I pressed and held in the drain valve, the bowl slide right off into my hand. DUH!! Thought I'd pass this along in case you hadn't heard of this either.

Haven't found much of anything so far, just a loose stop nut. I'll be moving on to the 200 hr Rotax maintenance items next.


Courtesy Car List Updated

New listings in:


Slightly Oblong hole in Wing Spar ...Garet Hess (Edmonton, AB)

Well.. I've managed to put myself in a bit of a spot. While match drilling the W-726 spacers/W-731 Tie-down to the Wing Spar for the AN3 bolt, one of the holes managed to get slightly oblong in the Spar Web. At its widest point its 0.207" across. The hole in the spacer is good as well as the Tie down bar.  more


Panel Upgrade ...Rob Hickman post

How can you improve an RV-8 that just won a Bronze Lindy at Oshkosh this year?

Why you can upgrade the panel from VFR to IFR with a new Avidyne IFD-440. We sent a new powder coated and labeled panel center section, IFD-440 and PS Engineering PAC-15 remote audio panel to Synergy Air in Eugene Oregon.

Since this plane was built with our plug and play Advanced Control Module the panel "rewire" was as simple as plugging in the new GPS Navigator and Audio panel harnesses into the ACM.  more


222kts ...Craig Taylor (Plano, TX)

On a recent trip from Pagosa Springs, CO to McKinney TX we showed 222 KTS ground speed. Mixture was 40 degrees LOP, 6.7 GPH, 2400 rpm and airspeed was 162 KTAS. The 566 NM trip took 3 hours 33 seconds takeoff to touchdown. I'm just glad that we weren't westbound!


Pop-Up Clearances ...Avweb article

Weather's gone to pot? No IFR flight plan on file? Don't worry. ATC can usually work with you on the fly. But, you must take care of yourself until they can take care of you.


85 Hours In ...InlineTwin RV-10



12/15/2015.  0120 UTC.  Issue No. 4,010. 
RV10 First Flight ...David E.

First flight of N96KE was Tuesday 12/8/2015. This is my brother, Keith's, plane that I helped build. We used the Additional Pilot Program for the first flight. A 20,000 hour pilot with 1,000 in RV's went along with Keith. Airplane flies great. Equipped with Dynon Skyview, IO-540 and Constant speed MT-Prop.


Re-learning old lessons ...Matt Giordano RV-8

I've been flying since 1989 and I was a flight instructor through the 90s and it's amazing to me how every once in a while you relearn an old lesson.  Today was a beautiful day 70° in December so I thought I would bring out the RV-8 for short flight. Doing the pre-flight I got distracted by a man asking me questions about my airplane and of course I'm a talker so I answered his questions and then moved on. Putting gas into the airplane I got distracted again by a new pilot asking pilot asking questions about the RV and complementing me on how well It looked. Again I was distracted from the task at hand. I had reeled up the fuel hoses and got my receipt then another plane pulled up behind me to get gas at the pumps so I rushed I got in the airplane started the engine and started to move forward and out of the corner of Me eye I saw the orange ground cable that was still connected to my exhaust pipe I promptly shut down the airplane an unstrapped myself and got out and remove the ground cable. I don't think anything would've happened it probably would've just put in the ground wire off however there were other possibilities like I could've ripped the ground strap and flew with the ground wire hanging behind me at any rate something happen but it just reminded me to pay attention and don't be distracted by others. So pay attention when distracted by others.

[ed. The thread is turning into a 'confessional booth' of sorts.  A great read!  dr]


Steve Melton Paint Update


Hangar Concrete Floor Problem ...UnPossible

Hey - we are just a few weeks out from moving into a new home at the airpark in Pecan Plantation. However, we have run into a minor snag with the hangar that we are having built. In the pic below, you can see that the concrete floor rises as you move to the left... it looks like for whatever reason the last 10 feet or so is 3/4" higher than the rest of the floor. The rest of the floor to the right (which you can't see in the pic) looks to be level, as the gap appears consistent.

We are working with the contractor to figure out a solution, but they are coming up blank, so I figured I'd turn the the VAF experts. Is there anyway to grind down the last 10' or so by the required 3/4" to get things back to level?

If not, what is the least bad approach to fix this? Jack hammer it out down to 6" and repour?... entirely cut out that section and repour?


Michael Schofield of Dynon Discusses Enormous TFR over East Coast

So a summary of what we know, and a few thoughts:

A couple of weeks ago, the first reports of the enormous TFR over the east coast showed up on our forum. It took us some time to get a data log that contained it (we're in WA; TFRs are broadcast for the area near the transmitting ADS-B station), so we weren't initially sure what to make of it. During that uncertainty, it's possible that our technical support team jumped to the conclusion that there was a bug in SkyView. It's definitely the sort of thing that smells a bit like a software bug, but we don't think it's one inside of SkyView in this case.

What we know so far, as of right now:
  • The "TFRs" that people are seeing on the east coast are NOTAMs (actually, all TFRs are NOTAMs) that are being identified as TFRs by the bits in the ADS-B data stream that identify what type of information a particular record is.
  • Non-TFR NOTAMs are normally appropriately ignored by SkyView's TFR drawing. However, since these NOTAMs are being categorized as TFRs, they're displayed like other TFRs.
  • It looks like at least some other systems devices that receive TFRs over the ADS-B radio broadcast (UAT/978) are seeing the same thing.
  • It appears that programs and apps that get receive TFRs via an internet connection are not seeing this phenomenon, which is why some thought it to be a bug in SkyView.
  • The NOTAMs in question definitely aren't TFRs; It's not clear why they're tagged as TFRs. They seem to all have to do with outages the ADS-B system, which is we suspect why they're being treated differently than other non-TFR NOTAMs that are broadcast (just a hunch).
  • We're reaching out to other folks in the industry and the the FAA to figure out if this is by design, a categorization mistake, or something else.
  • Whether there are any adjustments to SkyView's software that might be appropriate are dependent on the above questions, and are still TBD.
  • In the meantime, you can reduce the visual prominence of these TFRs by turning down the interior opacity/shading of the TFRs in MAP MENU > MAP ITEMS > TFR OPACITY. If you go down to 0%, you'll have red outline similar to how other airspaces are depicted. You can also play with the zoom level that the TFRs are shown at in the same menu to affect when they're shown.

As for the other comments about various aspects of our company and support: First, thank you for speaking up. We try hard to support a fleet of thousands of aircraft that fly behind our products. I think we delight our customers most of the time. On rare occasion, we get it wrong or fall short of your expectations. I don't want to get into a public back and forth about individual cases, but if there's anything that we can do for any of you, please reach out to me in a PM for a more personal conversation.

Michael Schofield
Dynon Avionics



12/14/2015.  0120 UTC.  Issue No. 4,009. 
Listen to the sounds your airplane makes....it may save your butt ...Walt

While doing a panel upgrade and condition inspection on an RV4, I was hearing a very slight scraping sound when the stick was pushed full forward, obviously one of the elevator torque tubes was hitting something in that position and for a moment, I considered letting it pass, it's was one of those things you say to yourself how often does one really use full down stick so is it really a problem. After locating the area I found it to be under the passenger floor pan which of course is riveted down and the flap mechanism is bolted on top of it, so this was not going to be a 5 minute job. But letting it go kept nagging at me so I decided to just tear into it and find out where the interference was, have a "quick" look at the tube to be sure it wasn't damaged and grind off the offending material.  continue


C'est fini: Post-condition Inspection Flight

Condition inspection complete - finally got N617AR back together.  New EarthX battery installed this time around....MAN that thing is light (4 lbs)!  A pair of AeroLEDs Pulsars are next on the project list, replacing my 20-yr old strobes.  Gas at Denton is currently 65 cents cheaper per gallon than my home field, so that was a no brainer (pump here).  A .4hr flight Friday with no drips, runs or errors, as Jay Pratt has been known to say.

Kneeboard to record any issues (none).  It's time to do a VOR check for the logbook and a couple of approaches under the hood for currency this week.  If I intercept the 131* radial of the TTT VOR at the overhead break point at my home field, the VORs pass.  Every overhead break becomes a VOR check <g>.

What an amazing airplane!  Felt wonderful to get it back up in the air. 

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Acro on Top  ...Brad Benson 6A (Maplewood, MN)

I've had the itch to do some acro for the last several days - I usually am able to go at least once or twice a week but the weather has been pretty sour for longer than that. Thinking there must be a way around the issue, came up with a plan and threw it up for comments in another thread and talked with several people whom I trust & respect. Not hearing any downsides to it, I set about the plan.

The first step was verifying that the weather would be acceptable for what I wanted to do. That meant no ice in the clouds and relatively low (<5000ft) tops. Today satisfied those conditions - freezing level was about 8000' and tops were between 4000 and 5000 according to fresh PIREPS.

The second step was figuring out how to tell ATC what exactly I wanted to do. This was pretty easy and they fully approved - I simply filed a flight plan from KSGS to DOKTR, which is a fix near the airspace I usually use for acro. This was important; non-compliance with 91.303 wasn't something I wanted to get in trouble for. I added a 30 minute delay at DOKTR ("DOKTR/D0+30" in the routing) and added comments that I'd like VFR-on-top for some maneuvering 5 miles west of the airway. Filed it and away we went.  continue


Playing Around With Free Checklist Editor Software

...from Garmin (link) for display on my G3X.  Screengrab of the software on my PC below - subject to a thousand changes...many since I grabbed this image.  I might decide I prefer to keep the paper list down the road, or not.  I like how easy this is to change the list around to 'adjust the flow'.
  One wish for the software would be the ability to add color somehow to certain areas, such as in the 'EMERGENCY' section.  May be able to do that and I just haven't found it yet.
  Fun to play with!

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fmi: Garmin blog entry on this


Life in 2015

Monitoring family data plan use.  You would think the dad, running a family business, would use the most data.  No, that title goes to the 15yr old son - chart below courtesy my AT&T app.  And thank goodness for unlimited texts.  The 'group chats' those kids get into boggles the mind. 



12/11/2015.  0115 UTC.  Issue No. 4,008. 
Laziness, dead electric bike, AVGAS and food ...Darren in Canada

Captain Stu, my fellow aviation adventurer, from my local field, wrote an article for the monthly newsletter entitled, “Will fly for food”. He commented on most of the $100 hamburger joints in and around Southern Alberta. These are places that most of you will have no knowledge of, but that’s not the point of this little narrative.

At the end of his article he mentioned a few other smaller rural Alberta towns that looked to be potentials. They are located a little further away from Calgary, but definitely within RV distance.

This unusually warm December was all the goading I needed to plan a mission. Thus “Will fly for food Part 2” was born.  continue


Nevadan wants help to get the horse before the cart

I thought buying the hanger before the plane was backwards, but I did this anyways. However when I looked up on Van's website for an instructor they are only teaching people who already have an RV which is almost worse.

I would love to meet someone who can introduce me to these wonderful planes I have dreamed about most of my life.

Quick introduction to myself. I fly sailplanes out of Minden, NV (MEV). I have no need for a plane or a mission it would fulfill. I just always thought when I retired I would build an RV. However now I can actually afford one it seems buying a flying one makes more sense.

The member listings show many people at Carson, Dayton, Reno, and even one in Gardnerville (Minden) and one in Incline. If any of you have your ears on and feel inclined to talk, post or send a PM.

I would love to read from anyone what questions to ask of sellers or instructors.

Buying a hanger, then the plane, then learning to fly it seemed backwards at first, but maybe this is how it is done?


DallasNews.com Article:  McKinney students take flight with aviation program by building — and ultimately flying — their airplane   

In a hangar classroom at McKinney National Airport, students from McKinney’s three high schools are learning to fly — as they assemble an airplane piece by piece.

Quinn Dauenhauer, a senior at McKinney North, signed up for an introductory aviation course because he needed an elective. Now, in his third year with the program, he wants to study aerospace engineering at Texas A&M University.  more



(Rich at aircraftextras.com)
"Are you able to detect a low oil level while you are in flight? We just received a new batch of our Low Oil Level Sensors. This has been a popular choice for RVs and other aircraft. It will fit right in most O-360 engines and lots of others too. We also have shorter models we can offer now for shallower oil pans. If you want a custom sensor designed for your aircraft, let us know. See our Low Oil Level Sensor and more at www.aircraftextras.com."


2016 Calendars are HERE!!!



12/10/2015.  0114 UTC.  Issue No. 4,007. 
Panel Upgrade Status ...Joe Blank

Just finishing up my panel upgrade (as well as a thousand other things on the RV-6) from the past year. The new panel, anchored by 2 Advanced Flight Systems 5600's integrated with Dynon XPDR, Comm, ADS-B, ARINC; TruTrak Vizion A/P; Garmin GTN650; PS Engineering Audio Panel. The main harness was fabricated by Pacific Coast Avionics. These systems are simply amazing in their capability and features. Rob, Jeffrey, Ken, and all of the folks at Advanced flight Systems have been wonderful to work with. (Including my lovely wife Tricia... Yes, I am a lucky guy) They've all been really great! A big thanks to all of the folks involved in this effort!

While digging into the manuals last night as I sat in the airplane, the Northwest was again getting hammered by another pacific cold front. As I was sitting there, I could watch the ADS-B Nexrad data update, check airport info around the area (KUAO 17023G35KT 4SM RA), and see occasional bizjet and airline traffic targets going over probably wishing they were on the ground. All from the comfort of the stationary cockpit. Meanwhile, I could see what the weather was doing in Miami which looked way more pleasing than the NW deluge that we were about to suffer...

As I finish up the myriad of software settings, component checks, user training and return to flight test cards, this system should be light years ahead of what was in my panel for the first 10 years of it's service. I'm sure it will take a few hours to master but the additional capability is very impressive!


FP to CS Conversion Unintended Consequences

I recently converted from FP to CS and ran in to a bit of a problem…. I am sharing this in case someone else runs in to similar symptoms and in also to get community feedback.

Engine: O-360-A1A (one regular mag, one pmag, overhauled, currently w/ ~460 hours)
Governor: Jihostroj (New)
Stainless steel prop governor oil line (New)
Prop: Whirlwind 74 RV (New)

First and second ground runs had expected engine behavior and oil pressures. Logbooks updated, FSDO notified and first flight was ready to go.
On first flight, the oil pressure was initially normal on initial take off roll but after 160 seconds post take off start the oil pressure alarm went off while engine still maintained power. (The oil pressure alarm was set to go off at 25 psi.) I immediately reduced power and returned to land but before I could land the oil pressure got as low as 6 psi but then recovered to about 30. I’m thinking I would have an aircraft covered in oil but there was not a drip to be found. Therefore there could be an issue with the oil pump, prop governor, oil pressure sender, bearing or something entirely else.  continue


November Construction Time Lapse Videos ...gfb


Status Report ...rightrudder -9A

Finally, ready to put the wings on for good! Should happen this Friday, if my self-employed helper doesn't get any last-minute jobs.

Fuel inlet tubes match up perfectly with the tank fittings with a measurement of 2.50" from the fuselage side to the flare.There's a bit of give in the line, so you could be off by 1/8" or so and it would still be fine. Much peace of mind that they came out to the right length!

Looking forward to the W&B, I've located a set of Longacre racing scales from a friend who competes in autocross. I'm just guessing from looking at other people's #s, but the mains ought to be about 365-375 lb. apiece, and the nose wheel at maybe 300-315 lb. So now I'm putting ALL the stuff back into the plane for W&B, only to take it ALL back out for the DAR inspection. Putting it ALL back in after that will be pretty painless, because at that point it's time to fly.

All the placarding is done, checklists are made and laminated, ELT makes all the appropriate noises on 121.5, and POH is about 90 percent done (obviously a continual work in progress as I fly Phase 1 and determine what the numbers are for my plane). I still need to finalize some settings on the EFIS, and set reasonable limits so the display doesn't light up with warnings during the first flight.

I've also contacted Reuven at KSEE about transition training, which is tentatively set for mid January. So first flight in March? That's what I'm hoping.


RV-14A Engine Start Video


Milestone ...cderk RV-10

Woo Hoo... making progress. 50+ hours in and I've got a vertical stabilizer and rudder. Starting to look like something.



12/09/2015.  0109 UTC.  Issue No. 4,006. 

AX-O photo...


Why is This RV Smiling? ...Paul Dye

Because she got her prop back and went flying for the first time since late September!  Whirlwind replaced all three blades, machined the hub and put it all back together beautifully. The box they shipped it in is a keeper - ready for the next maintenance cycle, it would be a shame to lose it. I ran it up on the ground after installation, checked for leaks, then took it up over the field for about twenty minutes. Running great, very smooth - but we'll still look for a Dynamic Balance somewhere here in the Reno area. Walt has always done our balance work, but he's a long ways away.


More Steve Melton Painting

...horizontal stab, bigger parts, booth temp 75F at first coat, second coat 70F. it didn't seem to flow as well. perhaps for the bigger parts use a higher temp reducer like DT885 but overall I am pleased with it. usually it is better the second day after flowing out. painted upside down. sprayed the floor with water.


The Tru Trak ECO Autopilot really flies! ...Paul Dye

I know that lots of folks saw Tru Trak’s prototype demo of the low-cost ECO autopilot at Oshkosh a few months ago, and many looked forward to seeing it in action. I got a chance to fly it this weekend with Andrew in the Tru Trak RV-10, and I have to tell you folks – this is revolutionary from both a cost and performance perspective. For $1,000, you get a two-axis autopilot that will hold heading, track a Nav source, and hold altitude – the three things we all do with our autopilots about 95% of the time. For a VFR pilot, it is hard to think of anything else that you absolutely NEED. It has good control authority (I couldn’t tell much difference between it and Sorcerer installed in the airplane as well), and a unique feel – because it flies with trim tabs, rather than manipulating the controls.

And then there is the Envelope Protection – another cool feature that could very well make a huge contribution to GA safety.

I did a little write-up about it HERE, and there will be a full review in Kitplanes in an upcoming issue.


New RV7A Blog Describing First Flights ...James Clark IV

After seeing some of the other professionally done blogs about flight testing: I'm trying my hand at documenting my experiences flying my new RV7A in a wordpress blog. So far its only flights #1 - #4, but it seems like a nice way to keep track of all the new/changing/items and information in one place.

Follow along if you like, and please feel free to make suggestions as I'm pretty new at this:


Museum Month ...Vlad entries


My New Bookmarker

Mark Pensenstadler runs www.RansClan.com, and we occasionally bounce ideas off each other.  He also runs www.AircraftStickers.com, and is an advertiser on VAF.  I got the picture below in the mail today.  Made my day, and the 'modded' picture is my new placeholder for books.  Love it!  I could grow the beard like that, but I'd need a lot of coloring <g>.  Even rebranded my RV...

Plotting my next move now... ;^) 

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12/08/2015.  0036 UTC.  Issue No. 4,005. 
IFR Sunset ...ChiefPilot

I went for a short IFR currency flight from KSGS to KSTC and back today; KSTC was reporting 200' and 1/4 mile viz so I knew I would be going missed but wanted the practice. Tops were 2500 and I was cruising back at 4000' when the sun set. Scenes like this are one reason why I love to fly.

Punch List ...KRviator

So the story starts off Tuesday last week, when I'd arranged for a local L4 Amateur-Built Inspector to do the pre-flight final inspection on Aurora Australis. On Monday morning, I loaded up the 4WD with tools, fuel, a couple of spare parts and a jerrycan of fuel to fill with Avgas on the way. Problem being, on the way home from the airport the after flying that afternoon, I had tyre issues with the 4by so I took the KRviatrix's car the following day.

The hangar key lives on the 4by's keyring.......

So....I drive an hour and a half to the airport, and as I'm walking back from the fuel bowser, I see her fluorescent-yellow car (the only man-made thing besides the Great Wall of China that can be seen from space) in the car park, the penny drops as to what I've done, and an expletive was uttered that was heard for miles around. No one else could get into the hangar and as a result the inspection was put off till today.  more

Sam Buchanan's Next Plane Ready to Fly ...Sam also has a RV-6

Good news about Trish "SchoolMom" Russell...ronschreck post

Many of you know Trish Russell. She flew with the West Coast Ravens and has attended a number of formation clinics across the country. She retired from teaching last year and moved from California to North Carolina with husband Mark. They are building a beautiful home just two doors down the street from me at Gold Hill Airpark.

On September 30th Trish Russell was rushed to the hospital. She had an AVM in her brain that ruptured. An AVM (arteriovenous malformation) is a tangle of abnormal blood vessels connecting arteries and veins in the brain. It’s a congenital condition; she always had it and never knew until it ruptured. Trish had brain surgery on October first. They removed a portion of her skull to relieve the pressure on her brain and because the rupture was repaired quickly there is a high probability that Trish will make a full recovery. I visited Trish on the day after her release from the NICU. She couldn’t speak, couldn’t open her eyes and had lost all movement on her left side. We conversed via a white board. I visited her in the hospital three weeks later and was amazed at the progress. Her eyes were open and she was talking and talking and talking! Very slight movement on her left side gave her hope that she would be walking before long and perhaps even returning the left seat of her RV-6A. Through it all Trish’s husband, Mark and daughter Angelie have been by her side night and day. Their support and encouragement and Trish’s determination are all centered on one goal: getting her back in the cockpit.  continue

Flight Testing Continues ...AX-O

Finally... flight testing continues. I was able to log approx. 4 hrs this weekend. I installed a new Catto 2-bladed test prop (more pitch). This one got me closer to where I need to be but still not quite there yet.

Landing with a flat, and how to patch a tube with velcro and superglue ...CATPart

I didn't land with a flat, as it happened in the 30 seconds I waited for my takeoff clearance. Clearance granted, I tried to taxi to the runway, but could not roll at all, just did a 360 around my right leg, regardless of how much left brake and rudder. I was convinced my right brake was stuck. Tower let me shut down and hop out for an inspection, wheel pant is on the ground, tire as flat as can be.

My first thought, "there is no way they can tow this tail dragger (RV-4)". Tow cart shows up, and yea, not going to happen. So I hitch a ride back to the hangar (3/4 to 1 mile probably), load up the FBO golf cart with my tools, borrow a jack and air tank from them, but we can't find a tire patch anywhere. The fbo guy looks in the toolbox and sees some tape, superglue, adhesive backed Velcro, windex, we grab it all.  continue

Status ...Jesse

Just tried MOGAS, didn't go well

After getting the first 90 hours on my -9A, I decided to tried the 91 Octane autogas that is sold at my home airport. Being overly cautious, I completely drained the left tank of 100LL and filled it with autogas. On the next flight, I took-off on the right tank (100LL) and once leveled off and with everything stabilized, I switched over to the left tank. About 30-45 seconds later, I felt a noticeable loss of power and the engine began surging from cruise power to lower power. I had the engine page up on the PFD during the tank switch just in case and the fuel pressure was dropping, accompanying the power surge. My IO-320's fuel pressure usually runs at a steady 18 psi, but it was dropping to 8-9 psi for a second, then back up to normal, then down again (again with a power loss).  more

Paint Update ...Steve Melton

spinner and intersection fairing. I was cautious not to put too much paint on these for a fear of a run. I thought about painting the spinner inverted on the way home. the perimeter decreases because of the cone shape and if you have a run it could become worse. it worked out for me and was easy to rotate the spinner while painting. next time I would do it the same but use a stronger rod thru the spinner holes because the .042 wire is not strong enough and will bend at the holes. for the final and second coat, the booth temp was 65F, I used DT870 reducer.

W&B ...Greg Niehues

Got my first weight data yesterday, with IO360 and Whirlwind C/S prop, full glass panel, dual alternators, battery in the mid-tail, extended range tanks and complete Classic Aero interior (seats, side panels, carpet, the works).

Empty weight is 1111 pounds at 77.92" from the datum, just about 10 pounds heavier than I anticipated before I started building. Blasted primer! <g>

Tom Swearengen Update

Morning all. I just wanted to give an update to everyone. First---thank you all so much for the prayers and very kind words. Suzanne and I greatly appreciate it!. I started building a few hoses last week, to try and get caught up. Getting my strength back has been a bigger deal than the knee issues. Knee is fine, other than therapy makes it sore. I'm still about a week behind schedule, but in actuality probably a week ahead in getting it back to 100%. On a bike at therapy now, so its accellerating.

I think Im now caught up on all the small orders. Several packages to do this week for some VERY patient customers. The RV community has been very patient with me during this time, and thats something that we wont forget. Hopefully by the end of the month, things will be back to normal.

From the mothership FB page

Seen While Flying Monday Morning 

The highlight of my .2hr flight.  Crummy iPhone pics somewhere near my home field.  Zoomed in a bit later in Photoshop.  Don't ask me where exactly, I enjoy watching this guy.  ;^)  Sometimes he doesn't even look up from eating when I fly by.



12/07/2015.  0019 UTC.  Issue No. 4,004. 
Trip - Venice, FL-Albuquerque-Phoenix-Venice ...GLPalinkas

(in four parts)  First, as a former aerial photographer, one would think I would have brought a better camera than my iPhone. Alas, I did not…sorry

Well, It all started Oct 12 when family/life issues came up and I needed to wing my way West again from Venice, FL to Albuquerque. My lovely wife and I loaded up and I decided to RON in the Dallas area as a 10 hour flying day wasn’t in her cards…(neither were the very high winds forecast for central Texas) but we did get an early start.  <g>  ...


Selecting an Engine for the RV-14/14A

(mothership FB posting) 



Status Report ...Gregg Brightwell -4

After a lot of work the last week, the fuse is ready to finish riveting, I just gotta bribe a buddy to come by. (Kurt / Steve / Aaron - beer is in the fridge).  I cut off the jig uprights today after all the skins were clecoed on, and I put a couple alignment pins on the inside to replace them. Now I can access the firewall easier. After all these clecos are removed, I'll flip the canoe.


ECI Factory Visit ...Kyle Boatright

One thing I've found is that a friendly phone call will get you into a lot of interesting places. I've been on tours at Boeing, Lockheed, General Dynamics, Raytheon (ooh, laser guided bombs!), Legend Cub, GEC Avionics (a big HUD manufacturer years ago), plus a few more aviation related businesses based on a phone call or having a personal contact.

Since we planned to be in New Braunfels, TX for Thanksgiving this year, I reached out to ECI/Titan which is nearby in San Antonio and asked if I could tour the factory while I was in town. They graciously accepted and we worked out that I'd drop by the factory on the day before Thanksgiving. It was understood that the factory would be in the process of winding down for the holidays when I arrived.  ...


Where SMO Mounted his Camera

Put mine in the cowl. You don't have to use a Virb, any camera with composite video output will work - ie a cheap/light bullet cam.

(later in the thread: SuperCubDriver's setup)


Look at this oil filter ...Vlad

Several oil changes ago I noticed the paint on the base of my Tempest oil filter was strangely deformed. Never happened before and couple filters after there was no indication of similar orange peel. I still have one oil filter from that batch will put it in next month and watch...
I change lubricating oil every 50 hours on average and oil filter every 100 hours or so. Can somebody give me a suggestion what caused this paint warp? Rocketbob come back <g>.


From the mothership FB page...


Fuel Leak ...paul330 RV-10 (Wiltshire, UK)

After my last flight, there was blue staining on both sides at the wing root and down the gear legs. Not a huge amount, but obviously needs fixing. Had the root panels off - no signs of leak. So seats out and tunnel panels off. Sure enough, the leak seems to originate in the tunnel and flowed out across to the wing root.

I should mention now that my fuel system is modified a little. UK regs require a gascolator but with the wing fuel drains being at the low point, it's a bit redundant. A mod has been approved to remove the inline filter and put the gascolator in the tunnel to act as a fuel filter only. Using the Andair version means easy cleaning by screwing off the bowl. I also use the Andair fuel selector. All piping is standard flared aluminium fittings.  ...


Milestone: VS Finished ...N890GF


Honoring Pearl Harbor Day


12/04/2015.  0122 UTC.  Issue No. 4,003. 
RV-14 Taildragger First Flight...the video is out.

(from the mothership FB page) 
All of our cameras were out for the first flight of the RV-14 Taildragger on June 16, 2015. We've been working so hard on the kit we haven't had any spare time to edit all the footage together, but now we can share it with you! Mike Seager did a fantastic job as test pilot, and extra kudos are due to the Proto Shop for getting her ready (and painted!) in time to safely debut at Air Ventrure 2015."



Proud Dad ...Marshall

My daughter passed her PPL check ride yesterday.   Now, to make it RV related. We'll have to get her checked out in the 9A. <g>


The Radial RV is an airplane!!! ...flyboykellp

On to flight testing!


Eagle's Nest Projects - N904EN takes flight at Central High School (WI) ...R.E. Butcher

N904EN "Falcon One"
11-18-2015 - Airworthiness by Connie Martin, Milwaukee FSDO
11-25-2015 - 1st Flight - Jim Senft, Pilot

Central High School recently completed extensive renovations to their CTE facilities including the addition of a large 'shop' area which will comfortably accommodate their next Eagle's Nest Project - scheduled to begin early February 2016. The support for Eagle's Nest Projects from the School District, community, Central's principal, Lisa Albrecht, Eagle's Nest project director, Jim Senft, and the dedicated mentor team has been overwhelming and each deserves special recognition and accolades. Congratulations to Central High School Aviation Club for a "job well done"!
more (with video)


Going off reservation with changes,,,,,

(op ed) 
"Current and future builders,
One of the most distracting and sometimes paralyzing things a builder can do is go off reservation and make changes. Sad but true. It usually starts by reading something here on VAF or seeing something at Oshkosh and wanting to incorporate it into your build. Every change I have done during the course of my build has cost me time and sometimes money. At some point, you have to freeze the design and finish the dog-gone thing, at least that's what I've been telling myself. Guys like Horton and others come up with some of the best stuff but those great ideas have added years to my build (little exaggeration here if I may).  more

"I would agree that the “no mod” rule is an excellent guideline; particularly with regard to flying as soon as possible. I would also say that many RV builders have made excellent, safe (and safer) modifications to their RVs, but, yes, usually at the expense of building time. Like several others, I would agree that structural modifications should not be pursued as a rule. Also, aerodynamic modifications are extremely risky without professional analysis and testing.

On the other hand, that does not mean that RVs cannot be improved by careful, competent designers and builders who thoroughly analyze and test everything they are doing. Van successfully modified the Stits Playboy. Many of the people on this forum are capable of doing the same. Also, as a result of experimental aviation, there is a strong, mostly well-vetted, experimental aircraft service and modification supply business. Many of these businesses advertise here on VAF and are quite successful and well-appreciated."  more


Evening flight with RVators in Scandinavian ...video



12/03/2015.  0040 UTC.  Issue No. 4,002. 
Slo Mo RV-8 Take Off

Gary Platner launched Wednesday morning out of my home airport, and I was able to walk over to the taxiway and put my iPhone on the 'slo-mo' video thingy before he went by.  Nothing really groundbreaking, but I always like the 'thump thump thump' of the prop in slo-mo.  dr


Doing things that don't need to be done ...Steve Smith RV-8

I'm most of the way through my condition inspection. This is the fifth one (flying six years). So I thought I would be extra thorough.

I pulled the wheels and cleaned and re-greased the wheel bearings. This was a waste of time. The bearings look like new. Compared to typical service exposure of auto hubs, our wheels are hardly ever used, hardly ever exposed to unpleasant environments. Wish I had not bothered.

Completely anecdotal, but I remember hearing of a study that was done by Greyhound Bus on whether it was better to periodically clean and re-grease wheel bearings, or just leave them be. The ones that were regularly cleaned and regreased had a higher failure rate. Suspected damage to grease from residue of cleaning solvents.

I pulled out my conical K&N air filter (it is in a ram-air housing similar to the Bower system but my own design, gets filtered air from the cooling inlet)
It looks like new. It is still pink from the oil saturation. I looked up on the K&N website for guidance on when we should be cleaning and re-oiling them. Some graphic pictures show when it is dirty enough to need cleaning. Mine was way cleaner than the 'clean' picture. Like I said, looks like new. Again, compared to automotive, very small environmental exposure. I even operate off of dry dirt fields occasionally. Wish I had not bothered.

dr pic.


Critique my ELT mounting


Experimenting With Ignition Timing ...Michael Robinson

Much has been written on this forum concerning the pros and cons of electronic ignition and more specifically, the level of advanced timing they offer. Plenty of testimony that Lycomings "like" more timing than offered by the fixed magneto, and plenty of testimony that the factory knows best. There has also been dyno testing between the two, but the results have been less than convincing for either side. The current crop of electronic ignitions have fairly limited to zero adjustability and the curve seems somewhat mysterious. In my mind, what is needed is a completely adjustable ignition which you can tweak on the fly. Being able to set power, then move the timing around to see where the engine is happiest should put the issue to bed, shouldn't it?  more


2016 Calendar Now On Sale


Smokey residue at cowling hinge ...kritsher -12

I could use some advice on this. This is a picture of the right side of my RV-12 where the lower fiberglass cowling (on the right) meets the aluminum fuselage structure (on the left). The lower of the two hinge pins on the lower cowling runs down the center of the photo.


PIREP ...crabandy

More destruction, man I was so proud of those ramps. I used foam/glass to continue the spinner curve of the cowling onto inlet ramps so the black baffle material had a nice smooth transition to push against. I didn't have the heart to throw them away...



12/02/2015.  0104 UTC.  Issue No. 4,001. 
2015 Grass Strips ...Vlad

"2015 was a good year. 36 new grass/other than paved runways were added to the list which now stands at 127 total."


Officially a repeat RV builder ...Chad Jensen

I just took possession of kit number 1184, a completely untouched 4 tail!  I'm excited about this on as it represents a great spot between today's pre punched kits and a plans built airplane.  Let the winter project fun begin!! Good to be back...


4,826 Days Since First Flight*...ongoing maintenance.

Got out the 'riveting things' and the left wheel pant now has some replacement nutplates - replaced three that had twisted-off screws in them.  I've stopped using a cordless screwdriver to put new screws in, BTW <g>.  And my pnuematic squeezer isn't working, so I used the manual squeezer.  Always learning...  Always maintaining...  Wax on / wax off. 

*Microsoft Excel date functions are your friend ;^)

(click to enlarge)


Aerosport Products New Aerovents

Aerosport Products would like to announce our new AERO VENTS.  These are precision machined from aluminum and anodized either black or clear. The vents come with either the 2" scat tube nut or ring nut.  They require a 2.125" hole and have a 1.20" outlet. These vents seal off when closed to 99%


Visible Signs of Fun

Worn paint around N617AR trim switch outside of my left knee (a few years back).  It's now on the stick.  To this day when I get to 'TRIM SET' in my pre-takeoff checklist, many times I reach over my left elbow for a switch that isn't there.  Why'd I move it?  On a cross country trip a decade ago my resting arm held down the trim without me know...until the autopilot got frustrated and disengaged itself.  The resulting climb rate scared the living piss out of me for a couple seconds until I figured out what had happened <g>.



12/01/2015.  0041 UTC.  Issue No. 4,000. 
December Calendar Wallpaper

...courtesy Mr. Ed. Hicks.


Turkey Day: a Trip PIREP ...Vlad


Don't drop that BUCKING bar!


Shimming the Frame


First Flight(s) ...BigD


New Old Tool


A new RV Pilot --)


WW-151-H - Unexpected Issues at Overhaul


Part 2 of my RV-7A Aerobatics Lesson


Freezing Fuel Vent?

I designed this simple small tank just for plugged fuel vents whether it is plugged from bugs or ice or other foreign matter.
There is a one way check valve on the short hose that can take air in but not out so that the cockpit will not fill up with fumes.


The Sloooowww Reassembly of N617AR

I might be the world's slowest at putting a plane back together after its yearly inspection, but it presents opportunities to fiddle with stuff (and that's cheap fun).  It's cold here, and damp, and the floor is an ice cube...and I'm taking my time.  I got exactly (1) wheel pant back on Monday - new screws and washers, pant cleaned and waxed.  In the process of wiping down some more stuff in the engine bay I came across a spot where some scat tubing rubbed the paint off part of the motor mount - exposing bare metal.  Addressing that next. 



11/30/2015.  0057 UTC.  Issue No. 3,999. 
The Vinyl Wrap Transformation of RV-7A N260KM to KELLI GIRL

...Sid Mayeux discusses his newly-dressed 7A in six parts.


Thanksgiving First Flight ...JamesClarkIV

I thought you all might like to see some pictures from my airworthiness inspection and first flight:

Three things I'm very thankful for this year: My wife, my 8 month old son, and my fresh airworthiness inspection (10/16/15) on N997RV:  ...


RV-7 Journey Begins ...welcome George Fahmy

One week ago I began the journey of the RV-7. This being my first post, I thought I'd share that I have been reading the RV-7 forums for more than a year, and after transitioning into my new job, I finally purchased my tail kit. I can say in the week I have been building, its been awesome so far! Check out my builders log and if there are any critiques about my work don't hesitate to let me know. One thing I've enjoyed about these forums is the vast knowledge that everyone has. I look forward to being a part of this community and sharing my journey!


RV-8 Video ...Hamburg / EDHE


Out of the Paintshop Pics ...Tom Power


Jim Thill's RV-4 Fly-by Pic


Update ...Tom Swearengen

Good morning all. Its Saturday ( I think)---I'm in Virginia at Suzanne's moms for thanksgiving. I just wanted to give a short update for all of you.
Currently, I have no pain, just soreness in my lower calf, which is another word that I'm improving. Walking without crutches, or any other help aid, with no difficulty. Not fast, but steady. I'm about a week behind schedule on therapy, but other wise doing well.

I'll probably start building some hoses when I get back on Monday. So, should be back on schedule in about a week. I cant say enough about the RV community. We we unundated with emails, and texts, some of which I or Suzanne answered, alot of which I still need to address. Point is that all of were thinking more of my health than your projects, and that means more than you can imagine. Many of you are voices on the phone, printing on an email, but over the past 2 weeks have formed into real people. Its amazing that at the point of crisis, people bond together so best wishes actually become a force to combat the issue. Inner strength, strength from beyond, whatever you want to call it, it comes through alot of you.

When an email comes in from Australia, and the person is writing only to say hello, and offer best wishes, gee, that touches you right in the middle of the heart, and you can only smile that the way this happened was because of the great RV Community we have. I havent been to Australia, but sure would like to, and personally thank that person for the email.

Long medical story short, a reaction to the antibotic, Rocephin, given IV during pre-op. By the time I was wheeled into OR, the anesthesia, and the Rocephin were well on its way, doing their jobs. Last I remember was a tickle in my throat, which I tried to cough out. What we now know, is the tickle was the beginning of the airway clossure, and with the surgery almost completed, the airway completely closed, and flow rates began to drop.
Repeated attempts to get an airway failed, so a Tracheotmy was performed, all the while, my orthropededist was finishing his part so they could transport me.

OK enough about the bad stuff. Good Stuff------I'm told heroic efforts by several members of combined OR, ER EMS, ICU staffs have gotten me to where I am today. Deeply indebted to all of those people. In debted to the RV Community for its understanding, and expression of Love and well wishes. You just cant make all of this up. Hospital visitors included Lee Logan and Dennis Argentsinger, my building buddies from 3J1, seeing what they could do to help. Even though we've been friends for years, its still pretty moving to have them come an check on me.

Best thing is I'm on the healing side now. Should be 100% shortly.


Pics ...Trapper's -8


Visiting Jeff ...Vlad

Jeff I got picture of Madison over downtown Louisville. I will expand on the trip here as soon as I sort out all the pictures. Thanks for everything!


DAR Listings Update

Added listing in Virginia.


Panel Status...John Walker -10


VAF Courtesy Car Updated

Somerset, Kentucky.


Painted Pics! ...RV7AJeremy


Paul Roy's License Plate



11/26/2015.  0033 UTC.  Issue No. 3,998.
 Wishing you and yours a Happy Thanksgiving, and a safe, RV-filled weekend.  Like the mothership I'm taking Friday off, so I'll see you Monday.
I'm very thankful for all my RV friends. 


Soaking up the sunset...acroflyrgirl pics

Today, I had a pleasant shakedown flight. Tested my new interior and associated heated seats. Also tested the new autopilot that TruTrak so speedily sent me.  Hopped to PRC to see a friend then came home chasing the sun. The sky was splashed with beauty.


Courtesy Car List Updated


From www.tostenmfg.com


Status ...crabandy pics

I roughly measured my right inlet with the more restrictive upper cowling ramp in 3 different places, front-middle-aft end of inlet. Due to the shape and access, the cross sections are basically square and I used pieces of paper to gauge the size and measured the papers. Almost the same vertical dimensions with expansion sideways. The top page is the side view and measurement of the inlet in inches. The bottom page shows the inlet from the front-black, middle-red, and rear-purple with rough total areas denoted in their color square.


RV6 For Sale ...[ed. A very nice example of how to list an RV.  dr]

1991 RV6, 2700tt, 363 smoh on 0320 160hp, CHT, 4 cyl EGT. Narco 810 com, Navaid AP-1 autopilot w/altitude hold coupled w/GPS, Narco transponder w/mode C, Lowrance Airmap 2000 color GPS, Dynon D-60 EFIS, 2 place intercom, fuel computer, electric flaps. Good paint and interior. $44,500


200kts ...RyanS

Somewhere over Minnesota...



11/25/2015.  0112 UTC.  Issue No. 3,997. 

It can be rewarding ...Larry Pardue

I have a friend in a nearby town who mentioned several months ago that she wanted a favor. She wouldn't say what the favor was, so I was apprehensive that this was a big one. Well I finally drug it out of her.  more


First Flight ...Charlie Luke 7A

I thought it was about time I updated the status of my project. The inspection was Friday the 13th, all went well, received my airworthiness certificate. The inspection was done by an inspector from the local MIDO and 2 from the local FSDO. ...


Van Celebrates His First 60 Years of Flight



360* Video

You move the mouse and your field of view changes....


Passing of our friend Carlos Fernandez

It is with a very heavy heart that I send this email. Many of you may remember Carlos from when he worked for GRT Avionics. He helped many of us here on VAF set up our panels and was always there to answer our questions.  more


I'm stuck already ...cderk



11/24/2015.  0104 UTC.  Issue No. 3,996. 

Flight Pics ...acam37

RV-10 Build - N311CJ ...Charles

Hello to the VAF community. My empennage kit arrived September 30th and I've been enjoying nearly all of the work so far. When I started I didn't appreciate all the satisfaction this type of work would have or how I would maintain interest for the several years it will take to complete. But now that I have started it does not feel like a slog or something that I hesitate to go out to the shop to continue working on. I am definitely looking forward to this process of building an airplane, and in the end I will have a really nice airplane!

I am logging the build at: www.charlesoconnell.com

54LH ...Tim Threw

My first post, so we will see if I do this correctly. My "adopted" RV7A, 54LH picture is attached - RV grin included!  Thank you to:
- Vans and the builder, Larry Hackney for doing a great job!
- This site for helping me decide which model was best for me and what to look out for - thank you D.R. and the members.
- Jan Bussell for initial training.
- Tom Berge for pre-buy, helping me get her home and the remainder of my flight training.

I have looked at RV for decades - finally joined the club! Boy, am I happy I did

Status ...jcaplins

Here it is after the 2nd test run of the engine. 1st run was without prop, 2nd was with prop. Runs great, just have some minor issues to iron out.

Dolly, milkshake, RV, and aerobatics

Broken piece on corner of tilt canopy

200 KTS Finally ...Nicholas Bachaert

I know many people have done this before me but I finally did it so I thought I would post pics of it. I travel cross country to see my son and on Friday the weather was giving me a little push. One is straight and level and the other is with a 500 fpm descent. Happy Thanksgiving everyone! Have a safe and RV filled holiday weekend!

Who uses airplane to commute to work?

So there's a possibility I may be spending 3-4 days per week in a different work location, starting next year for the next 3-5 years. Relocating family is not an option. Driving distance is 90 miles each way and I figured I would drive up early Monday morning, spend Monday and Tuesday night away from home and drive back Wednesday. Thursdays may involve occasional daily commutes. It is a 90 minute drive each way, regardless of traffic or time of day due to roads I would have to use.

Home airport to local airport at work location is 50 NM. My home to home airport is 15 mins, and it is 15 mins at the other end to work location. This makes it possibly marginally quicker to fly.

There are so many variables purely on the $$$ side to consider that its hard to know where to start when looking at economy: cost of overnight accommodation, food and car fuel as driver, versus cost of "parking" the plane and airplane fuel as an example. For those who commute by plane, what factors should I be considering to see if this is viable? Is my commute too short to make the airplane worthwhile (purely from commute standpoint)?

The biggest plus I can see, assuming costs are close to a wash, is that I could spend every night at home. The biggest negative is that I am VFR only so flying commute would not be all-year round (but I live in Northern CA so get good flying weather 9 months of the year minimum). Please help me with other things to consider.

Panels Shipped in the Last 2 Weeks ...N402RH



11/23/2015.  0100 UTC.  Issue No. 3,995. 

1,000th RV-9/9A Takes Flight ...mothership Hobbs meter

related: About the 1,000th (thread)

First Flight ...BruceP

N7756B took to the air this morning for its first flight! All went well and the plane flies beautifully. Was well prepared after doing transition training with Mike Seager a couple weeks ago. I may have actually had a better landing than all of the 59 I did with Mike! I was two weeks shy of 11 years to build but it was worth it. Thanks to Doug Dodson of EAA Chapter 1000 for being my Technical Counselor, Flight Advisor, and being there to fly chase in his Glasair! Can't wait to get on to flight number two!

When a stuck valve is not a stuck valve ...Carl Froehlich

A few weeks ago we had an interesting engine issue on an RV-8A. The specifics are provided for your information and engine file. Here are the details:
• Engine is a standard compression IO-360, 180hp parallel valve with AirFlow Performance fuel injection
• Total engine time since new is 800 hours (over 13 years)
• Running dual pMags for the last 450 hours (dual Lightspeeds before that which were removed for repeated failures)

The engine started to show signs of a stuck exhaust valve:
• Rough idle on initial start up (classic indication) but the problem did not clear when the engine was warm (at idle) – not a classic stuck valve indication.
• #4 EGT way low – as if the cylinder were simply dead
• Exhaust pipe “popping” at idle
• The engine ran fine at cruise and full power.

Uh oh

The RV-12 and giving rides ...Dgamble

"I was looking for a word that would make a distinction between those who are attracted to airplanes because they can be a fast, efficient way to travel, and those that are attracted to airplanes because, well, because that is simply who and what they are. The former may look at a Cirrus SR-22 and appreciate it for its high speed, sophisticated avionics, and its potentially life-saving ballistic recovery parachute.

The latter? They see it completely differently. Yes, they too may have consideration for the aforementioned utilitarian aspects - the distinction that I am trying to make is by no mean mutually exclusive, but the second set of folks would be just as attracted to the graceful curves and elegant aesthetic balance of the Cirrus even if it plodded along at 90 knots, guided by a magnetic compass and an old Timex watch."

Thanks Everyone for Your Patience and Help… ...Jim Stricker

I’ve been pestering you guys for the past several weeks to get information for the flying RV-12 I recently bought. Everyone has been very kind to respond to my requests and I have been able to fix little squawks and now thoroughly enjoying the new plane. I just want to say what a joy it is to fly the RV-12.

A little history… I’m currently age 62 retired mechanical engineer. My other aviation interests are here http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=237058 and here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GE7V7NPVzQ My father flew B-17’s in WWII and taught me to fly when I was in high school a very long time ago. We owned a J3-Cub together for 23 years. My total flying history is 1200 hours - all in 65 hp vintage tail draggers. Fast forward to today… My father passed 8 years ago and I still miss him terribly. A month ago I traded “our” Cub plus a wad of cash for a beautiful flying ELSA RV-12 with only 50 hours TT. I rationalized the decision by saying I’m getting older and I had better do this sooner than later.

My thoughts on my decision…. Wow, what a nice flying airplane! The owner/builder of the RV-12 I purchased is a flight instructor so he gave me a checkout which amounted to four takeoff’s and landings to a full stop. I felt comfortable in the plane immediately. The plane, as different as it is from the Cub, was never out ahead of me. I’ve only flown one time in a Van’s aircraft and it was as a passenger in a RV-8 with no stick in back seat. I’ve never flown in a RV-12 until this deal came along. Nice airplane – solid, smooth, comfortable, visibility extraordinaire, good climb and speed, economical, extremely easy to fly. My next goal is to take the 16-hour LSA Repairman Inspection Aircraft Course at EAA AirVenture this coming year so I can do my own maintenance and Condition Inspections.

Glad you guys welcomed me into the RV-12 fraternity. I think it’s going to be a long association…

Piper J3
Hinckley, OH

Exhaust Hanger Broken

Status Report ...Av8torTom

Installed my canopy this weekend with Sikaflex. Quite happy with the result.



11/20/2015.  0110 UTC.  Issue No. 3,994. 
   Yearly inspection continues on N617AR...on the reassembly side of the curve.  Let's see...I put anti-seize on the new plugs and got them all in and torqued.  Cleaned/oiled the air filter and got that reinstalled.  Drilled out (3) nutplates on the wheel pants that had the screws broken off in them (used stainless on a few by accident over the years)...enough are broken now to have a 'fix party'.
   Cleaned all of the screws that I'd taken out (below), and when they are down to zero the plane is back together.  Sometime next week.  I tend to drag my heels during reassembly - gives me more time to look and drag a rag over things.
   Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend. 


Mr. Alan Tolle ...Rest in Peace

(From Van on their FB page)
"Longtime friend and RV builder/pilot/promoter Alan Tolle died on Nov. 9th.

Alan became a member of the RV clan around 1976 when he built his first RV-3. At the time, Alan, his wife Diana, and their family lived in Bakersfield, CA. John Harmon had already put Bakersfield on the RV map by building an RV-3 in record time and letting others fly it. John’s airplane infected Bakersfield with the RV virus and many projects sprang up. When a college teacher confidently announced that he was going to build an RV-3 “over the summer” my reaction was: Yeah, I’ve heard that overoptimistic prophesy before. Well, he (and Diana) did it -- in something like 75 days elapsed time! That, of course, was my introduction to Alan Tolle. Obviously, his stock rose considerably in my eyes.

I believe that he built another RV-3 soon after that, and built one of the first RV-4s when that kit became available. He followed with an early RV-6 and RV-6A when they became available in the mid-late 1980s. He flew a lot, showing up at most west coast fly-ins as well as Oshkosh and Sun’N’Fun. When Van’s started having banquets at these major events, Alan MC’d the after-dinner programs for many years. It would be a gross understatement to say that Alan was a great RV ambassador. For many years, he waved the flag for us and no doubt brought many builders into our fold.

Alan’s ability to build quickly was due to his ability to organize and stay on task. He was a consummate scrounger, and would shop at the fly-ins for avionics and instruments he needed and be well organized at the starting bell. Having everything on hand and sticking to his plan set him apart from so many builders who let distractions and “analysis paralysis” delay their projects. The accompanying photo was scanned from the July 1991 issue of Sport Aviation where a feature article by the late great Jack Cox covered the RV-6A that Alan had recently finished. Build time---6 months! That was from a standard kit (no QB available then) with no holes punched or marked, etc. When you compare that to the progress most of us are able to make on our “new and improved” kits, it is an even more remarkable achievement. Of course, Alan did have an advantage; his wonderful wife Diana provided invaluable hands-on help throughout.

At some point Alan felt that he had built enough RVs and built a Questair Venture which enabled him to reach his fly-in destinations quicker. Later, he acquired the remnants of the defunct Questair company and provided parts and services to Venture builders for a number of years. He also became interest in the rotary engine that Everett Hatch and Steve Beckham had developed and built another RV-3 using one of their engines.

Eventually, Alan and Diana relocated to Independence Airpark, west of Salem, OR and not far from Van’s. Their son David had moved to Western Oregon, so they felt that it was time for a change of scenery and an opportunity to be near their children and grandchildren.

I remember one time in the late ‘80s or early ‘90s, Alan told me that the RVs would soon become the most popular and numerous of the homebuilts. While I appreciated his optimism and confidence, I dared not take his prophesy too seriously. These where the days when the RVs were in the “also ran” category and the Vari-Ezes, Glasairs, and Quickie IIs were the darlings of the show. Obviously, I’m glad that Alan’s prophesy came to pass, and readily acknowledge that he help make it happen.

I’m sure that many of you had met Alan at one time or another. Because he was less active over the past 10-15 years, many newer RVers may not be aware of his role in the RV picture. Alan Tolle epitomized the support and contributions that “RV Family” members have made to our community’s strength.

RIP Alan, and our condolences to his wife Diana and family."

related: VAF Thread on Mr. Tolle


Back in the Air ...Tommy Lewis

We got our RV7a back yesterday with a new wing skin to replace the bird damaged right wing. Randy Richmond on Northwest Regional airport did the repair and it came out great. Check out these pictures.


Need Help w/Wood Prop ...Steve Lindberg 7A

My ten year old Aymer-DeMuth wood prop needs refinishing, I believe. Two photos show my two areas of concern, both on the same blade. The scratches go down to the wood, and there are cracks in the finish letting moisture inside.
Any comments? Can anyone recommend a wood prop expert who could do the work? The airplane is a 180 hp RV4 in a closed hangar. Thanks!


ELT Install kit available for the RV-14


From the mothership...



11/19/2015.  0013 UTC.  Issue No. 3,993. 

'Battery Diving'.
A dr picture of Smokey Ray at the Van Cave.

Review of the art piece:
"The artist brings the viewer face to face with their own preconceived hierarchy of cultural values and assumptions of artistic worth. Each pixel imaginatively propels its viewer forward into the seemingly infinite progression of possible reproductions that the artist's practice engenders, whilst simultaneously pulling them backwards in a quest for the 'original' source, or referent, that underlines Reeves' oeuvre."

We Are Worthy! ...BigD

Received the certificate today; Vic Syracuse did the honors at the fabled Monkworks facility. 3 years and 3 months, almost 2800 hours since starting...looking forward to the transition from builder to flyer.


Redneck Avionics ...jpowell13

The problem: just one panel mounted radio, no audio panel and no room in the panel for one, and my radio transmissions are hard read in the 131 to 132 MHz range.

Resources: A backup radio in reserve, and a extra Bob Archer VOR antenna in the left wingtip.

Solution: Hang the second radio under the panel, connect it to the VOR antenna, and plug a handheld mike into the mike jack. If they have trouble reading me on Com 1, pick up the handheld mike and transmit over COM2.


Garmin’s new GAD 27 interface module pairs with G3X™ Touch to streamline installation

...and add more capability!


RV-7 First Flight for Steve from "Flight Chops"


Fresh off Stein's Workbench...


G3X Touch Software 4.0 is out

Changes made from version 3.90 to 4.00:
Add support for GAD 27 electrical control system
Add config mode option to remove knowledge of previously installed MFD2 or PFD2 display
Add option to hide map field on split-screen flight plan page (GDU 46x only)
Add ability to create a user waypoint from Nearest Waypoints page
Add ability to create a user waypoint from User tab of Select Waypoint page
Add ability to acknowledge CAS messages by touching the CAS message area
Add option to display estimated time to VNAV (ETV) field in data bar
Add heading bug reference line to inset map, review pages, and traffic page
Improve Bluetooth communication and Connext interface
Improve CAS message display when there are a large number of messages
Improve selected altitude intercept arc
Change Flight Log page to appear on PFD1 display in a multi-display system
General improvements to system operation
Includes update to GSU25 software version 3.40
Includes GAD27 software version 2.00
Includes GAD29 software version 2.20
Includes GDL39 software version 4.60
Includes GEA24 software version 2.60
Includes GI260 software version 2.70
Includes GPS20A software version 2.10
Includes GSA28 software version 3.00
Includes GSU73 software version 3.40
Includes GTR20/200 software version 2.70

v2.9 Transition Training Syllabus ...Vac



11/18/2015.  0038 UTC.  Issue No. 3,992. 

Hong Kong RV-8 Local News Video (and more) ...Hank Cheng

[ed. And yes that is Hong Kong International Airport. dr]

Status Report ...David Paule -3B

I'd previously gotten the flaps to the point that except for the hinges, they were ready to be deburred, dimpled and riveted together. With the ailerons on, it was time to locate the hinge, the hinge brace and do some more drilling.

Update ...Tom Swearengen

ALL====I was relaeased from the hospital yesterday afternoon.
Trying to rest---yeah right---.
I'm greatly moved by all the outpouring of love and prayers from you guys. I say that in all sincerety. I'll do my best to live up to it!
I found out that medicine is like experimental aircraft. What you dont know you dont know. As I'm told, I was given an antibiotic along with the anesthesia. This was supposed to be a fairly quick proceedure to fix 2 partially torn meniscus in my right knee, that I had quite frankly got tired of dealing wth. So, 30 minutes, in and out, go home, and in about 10 days be back to normal.
Apparently very early in the proceedure, my throat started closing, O2 levels dropping, and scared the **** out of one of the best orthropediic surgeons in the country, a long time friend, and a Hudson Hornet fanatic.
I'm told that several Doctors and surgeons went to work on me, and essentially gave me the airway to save my life. I was in an outpatient surgurical center, very close to the hospital, so I'm told that EMS trasported me to the ER, and the staff worked on me for quite a while. Quite the commotion for a hose guy.

Long story short, in trying to get an airway, they broke a couple of teeth (you gotta do what you gotta do), so I have that to deal with. Trach hole is about the size of a -10 bulkhead fitting. Guess they wanted to test Don Rivera's flow data. Seems its right on the money.
Looks like the big issue will be the trach hole, and taking care of that. So, probably no cutting teflon hose, or any of that stuff for a bit-----until I can come up with a way to get it all covered up.

In talking with the Drs, we still dont know what caused it, but have narrowed it down to the antibiotic. I'd never heard of it, nor have I ever had it in any other proceedures. They have run a series of blood tests to see what else is strange about me, and we'll figure all of this out.

I want to express my deep appreciation to all the VAF and experimental community for the outpouring of support. Suzanne and I have been blown away by the emails, phone calls, and VAF posts. WE'll answer them all. I might take a little time, but its important for me to let you all know what you mean to us.
I found out, after the fact, that life can change in a instant. You NEVER think it can happen to you, but it happended to me, and for a while was pretty serious. So----if you havent hugged your Dr or nurse today, do it. Alot of people worked on me, and I'll probably never know all that were involved. BUT----they are the ones that gave me a second chance------to help you guys and finish my RV.

I'll keep you updated as I can.
Tom and Suzanne.
Tom Swearengen, TS Flightlines
Teflon Hose Assemblies for Experimentals

More on the Panel ...BSwayze update

Well, with most of the panel now cut out, I have finally been able to put a few more things in the panel, so it's time for another update!

RV10 three blade prop & first time pics post ...Stamper

Video Update ...gfb 9A time lapse

Cowling Inlet Reshaping ...crabandy pics

I recently sent my prop back to Catto, I've been watching it closely since hitting a rubber cone at OSH. I found that the scratches in the prop from the cone haven't grown lengthwise but one scratch started to open up slightly when I twisted the blade with my hand.
While the plane is down why not turn a small project into a big one...

Rudder stiffeners not lining up ...thoma015 RV-7


Film - Time Flys 2015, An Aviators Yearbook ...Richard Welch

3rd Annual VAF ski trip Jan 16 -23 2016

Attention skiers, the 3rd annual VAF ski trip to Colorado is Jan 16-23 2016.
Currently there are 2 bedrooms left at Casa Syvertson @ $75 a night per room.
Rental cars and food for the house are split equally among the group. The house is on a 9000 ft peak just west of Beaver Creek. We typically ski Vail, Beaver Creek, Breckinridge, Copper, Keystone and Snowmass. A room may be available on a nightly basis but not sure. If you live in Colorado and just want to ski with us you are more than welcome. Please respond ASAP as availability is first come, first serve.

John Morgan



11/17/2015.  0051 UTC.  Issue No. 3,991. 

Neat air to air moment today ...gerrychuck


Tom from TS Flightlines Update

Spoke with Tom again this afternoon and the news is that the doctors have still not released him to go home yet. Up and around though and expecting to be released tomorrow. I understand there were a couple more sign offs on his "annual" required, resulting in the delay. Happily, he sounded pretty good on the phone.

He should be home tomorrow (Tuesday)
Lee Logan


Status Report ...Gregg Brightwell RV-4

Well, haven't posted a status report in a while, as Axel and Arlie (among others) have had far more interesting, and important reports to share. Today was a big one for me though. I got a buddy to come by and get in the tube to buck some rivets. The canoe is riveted from the tail, to the back seat. All the forward skins, and the belly skin, are drilled. I can't wait to flip it! I want to get it out of this jig.


RV-10 - N688CD ...Charlie Derk's online project

Been lurking around here for a few months. Took delivery of my empennage kit mid-October and began building November 1. So far its been pretty exciting. I've learned a wealth of information here on the forums. Can't imagine what it would be like building without this resource - so thanks to all of you who make it happen.

I set out thinking that my "log" was going to be done the old fashioned way... pen and a notebook. And for FAA purposes, that's what I'm doing (along with notes in the Vans instructions). But then I remembered how helpful it was reading blogs and kit logs from all of you - so I decided that I would keep a log online in the hopes of giving back to the community who has helped me out.


Step Weldament Failure Warning ...Bob Kibby RV-12

The pilot side step (WD-1233-L) failed as I started to man the aircraft. WD-1233-L fractured at the lower end of the welds on both sides of the channel that mounts the step to the fuselage. The step did not separate completely and ended up hanging from the bottom of the airplane. I removed and inspected the right side step. WD-1233-R appears to a small crack at the end of each of the 2 welds where WD-1233-L failed.

Other than being surprised by the step disappearing under me there wasn’t any problem. If the step had failed when I was exiting the aircraft then I might have had a problem.

I’ve submitted a RV-12 Feedback Form (Safety Alert) to Van’s Engineering this morning but I wanted to get the information out so you can take necessary precautions when getting in and out of the airplane.
I am 6 “5” tall and weigh 215 lbs so the pilot’s side step does get a work out. I am trying to confirm that there are cracks on the passenger step since it doesn’t get the weight and cycles that the pilot side does. I’ll update the passenger step information when I get an expert opinion. The aircraft has logged 268 hrs over 380 flights


RV White Pages Updated ...network with RVators in 26 countries.


Plane Finder AR (Augmented Reality) ...free app for iPhone

Mike Warren gets credit for bringing this app to my attention in this thread.

From a nerd standpoint it was fun to play with for a bit.  Download the free iOS app to start with.  From their site, "Plane Finder works by picking up ADS-B plane feeds used by all commercial planes to transmit their name, position, destination and lots more."  A couple of screen grabs from my phone below - you move the camera around and the flights just appear on the screen.  Completely OVC when I did this...just aimed for the sound to get the closest plane's ID.  And BTW, the full size program online is pretty awesome when you spread it across two large monitors.  Lot of stuff up there...

Looking out my office window showed (6) airplanes at various distances.

In the driveway facing south.  Yeah, I'm pretty sure KDFW is that direction.


Courtesy Car List Updated ...go to lunch in an old Sherriff's car.



11/16/2015.  0044 UTC.  Issue No. 3,990. 

Congratulations to Hong Kong's First RV-8

Ready for Flight ...Bevan (BC)

Just got the final C of A paperwork back from the feds last week. The first passenger ride went to the "Boss". She approved it too...100%.

Friday the 13th ...Smokey Ray trip write-up

"...Recently, a chance to inspect and deliver a 9A from Coastal Oregon to a customer flying from my hometown airport in FL was too tempting. Another RV trans-Con? OK, twist my arm, I'll do it!..."

Effigy Mounds National Monument ...Pete Howell trip write-up

"...There are some hidden gems in the National Park System that beg to be explored with our little planes..."

Starter Failure ...AX-O

Rolling shutter explained

LuLu's Fly-out Friday after Thanksgiving - Black Friday

Battery Box From Scrap ...bret



11/13/2015.  0049 UTC.  Issue No. 3,989. 

Important TS Flightlines News ...Scott F. post

"Just received a call from Tom's wife, he is in ICU after having a BAD reaction to a drug combination during knee surgery. He almost joined another thread on this forum according to her.

Prayers for his speedy recovery are needed and if you're near him or know him, his wife could probably use a RV morale boost.

Needless to say, parts delivery will be delayed."


Podcast Feature Richard VanGrunsven ...1h 40min

A very nice listen.  BTW, you don't need a smartphone to listen, or even have to know what a 'podcast' is.  You can click on the play button noted by the red arrow below to just listen in your web browser. 

I would like to thank Dick for mentioning the site here around the 57-58 minute mark.  That was a very nice surprise, and much appreciated!  dr


Trying to Find All the Planes That

...had thier pics taken at Petit Jean



A leaking water pump in the car is getting priority these last couple days, so progress on the RV-6 condition inspection is slowed.  Bought new plugs and some air filter oil, so at least made a tiny bit of progress. 


New Eagles Nest Project? ...Dan Weyant

Just wanted to share some really exciting news.

I teach the PLTW Engineering program for Georgetown ISD, just north of Austin.

I've been working with our administrators to try and get permission to offer the PLTW Aerospace Engineering program in conjunction with the Eagles Nest Project.

Last week I flew two of our central office folks from KGTU over to Pearland to meet with Ernie and the folks running the program in League City. The guys I took over where extremely impressed, and really enjoyed getting to fly over in a "private" airplane (I borrowed my former partners Cessna 177B).

Yesterday morning I received word that the district has tentatively approved the program for the 2016-2017 school year!

As long as I can show enough interest in the program from the kids we should be good to go with the program for next school year!


RV-4 Status ...Jim Soutar



11/12/2015.  0133 UTC.  Issue No. 3,988. 

A ride for 'the little girl next door' ...Bob Collins

"Have I mentioned how much I love giving rides to people?

Have I mentioned how much I like the expression passengers get when I make a crosswind turn, and that beautiful RV canopy fills up for the first time (for them) with a perfect view of America, America?"  more (w/video)


RV-14 Finish Kit PIREP ...Jay Pratt

Received RV14 Finish Kit Yesterday 11-10-2015

First impression is how big (and heavy) the landing gear and engine mount are.  The angle valve is heavier than a parallel valve.  I received all the parts including the canopy struts, springs, that were backordered in the fuselage kit.

All the parts look quality +!  So,,,, it is back to work today. This 14 is going to be a super nice airplane, looking forward to flying it.


Powder coat crack?

After changing my oil I was inspecting the FWF with the cowl off and I noticed a crack on my lower engine mount. Not sure if it's just a powder coat crack or the mount itself. I'll probably need to buff off the powder coat to expose the metal, if it's the metal I imagine the repair could be grinding out the crack and fill with weld.

Anybody else have any thoughts?


AOPA Aviation Education Symposium report ...Bob Kelly

I just returned from a short trip down to Lakeland where AOPA held its first annual AES. Since the RV-12 was a topic of many discussions, I thought you might like to know what went on. First, it exceeded their expectations by at least 5 times! There were 150 attendees. We spent all day Monday hearing from some of the best and brightest in aviation education. A highlight (at least to me) was Barrington Irving (google him) who, although not an RVer, has the spirit of aviation far beyond his years.

I represented AviationNation, our new program of building RV-12s in schools. Interest was quite good, and I got many good ideas from the people there. AN currently has only two projects being built, but at least two more are scheduled to start next year, and a third probably will begin in a local college. That will be a first, and a big step forward for aviation. Expect to hear more about AviationNation!  more


''Perfect" Landings- The Search Continues in my RV-7A ...vid


Removing barriers to aerobatics- (IAC Competition on a Dime!) ...ronschreck

I hear it time after time: “I’d like to get into aerobatic competition but it’s just too expensive”. And I get it. If money was no barrier to competition we would be flying an Extra, MX or some other exotic bad-*ss aerobatic monoplane. But we fly RVs and the gas to get to and from a contest, hotels, parachute, and entry fees and on and on… It all adds up. There is a way.

1. Find a buddy with an interest in aerobatic competition.
2. Join the International Aerobatic Club (IAC). Dues for new members are half price right now!
3. Get with your local IAC chapter and tell them you want to start learning about competitive aerobatics. They will be VERY helpful.
4. Practice. You should have your buddy coach you from the ground. If you try doing it without coaching you will only become very proficient at doing it the wrong way!
5. Find a contest near you and sign up.
6. You and your buddy fly to the contest in one airplane. Share travel expenses.
7. Stay in a hotel with your buddy. Share a room.
8. Share a parachute with your buddy or borrow one from another competitor. If you are at a contest with me I will gladly share my chute. If you contact the Contest Director before the contest he/she will gladly arrange for a borrowed chute.

If you encounter any other barriers to competition that I haven’t covered send me a PM with your phone number or email address and I’ll do whatever I can to help you out. The season starts on March 17th in Donnellon, FL (X35). I’ll be there. Come join in the fun!


RV3 ranked in top 30 airplanes of all time...Esquire article



Veterans Day.  0012 UTC.  Issue No. 3,987. 

Thank you for serving.


RV7 Timelapse Flight ...Michael Jensen video


Finished ...Arlie Conner

Our project has finally made it to the finish line. She is signed off and ready to fly. But no plane is ever really "finished" is it? Our paint scheme is a warbird that is shedding it's skin to reveal it's inner racer. I think it turned out great.


And the first flight announcement ...acam37


NYC Hudson River corridor & Sky Acres 44N ...Lycosaurus Trip Write-up


Status Update ...David Paule

The ailerons are hung, if you can call a couple clecos at each hinge "hung." I haven't drilled the holes out for bolts yet. They check out with a straight edge lining up the tooling holes as well as fitting my shape jig.  more


The Avery's ...Mitch Lock

I have been building RVs for close to 30 years. The first two I built using a hand squeezer. When I started my RV-7 late last century, I decided I could afford a pneumatic squeezer with all the yokes and accoutrements. Avery was having one of their sales at the time so I placed my order. It was the probably the best tool purchase I ever made.

Anyway, a number of RVs later and it just didn’t have the pizazz it once did. So I boxed up the main body, enclosed a blank check and sent if off to Bob with instructions to repair it and fill out the check as necessary.

First, how many vendors are you willing to send a signed blank check? That says a great deal right there.

Second, the squeezer came back two weeks later all spiffed up and anxious to get back at those rivets. My blank check came back as well. Huh?

I called Bob. He said he repaired it under warranty. Warranty?! The thing was ten years old and had obviously been used on countless rivets and dimples.

Our country’s economy rests on the back of great small businesses like Avery Tools. We in the aviation community in general and the RV world in particular are diminished by their so well deserved retirement.

God bless you Bob and Judy Avery.


Another reason why this community is so awesome  ...people like this.


Status Update ...Martin Leroux


A Piece on Garmin's RV-7A Test Bed/Demonstrator ...page (34) in Avionics News Nov Issue.

(click here to download the PDF version of this publication)


FS: RV-3B Emp/Wing/Fuse Kit FS (still in crates) ...$8000


Here's How You Secure It ...Mike Starkey



11/10/2015.  0001 UTC.  Issue No. 3,986. 

My RV-7 was Parked on the Boeing Ramp!

"...my plane at Saturday’s Boeing Charleston Family Day Open House. I was a very proud papa to have her there and on display next to the 88-30 bldg, and even had Van's Aircraft provided brochures which I handed out to people interested in taking on a project like this someday! The kids were by far the most excited and my back is paying the price for lifting far too many of them in and out of the cockpit. I eventually had to close my canopy for that very reason.

I told a lot of my teammates that I kind of felt like when I was younger and it was "Show and Tell Day" at School."

Jim Lechleiter
787 Design Engineering


The Importance of a New Set of Eyes on Your Work ...vfrazier entry

It's sheer insanity to not have other qualified RVers look over your shoulder when you have the chance. It might save your life!

I recently was helping with the condition inspection on a 15 year old RV-6A. It had been inspected previously by the owner and one other mechanic. I was poking around and was astounded to find 3 bolts near the left main gear leg/spar carry through that had nuts on them that were visibly loose (gaps). These should have been easily seen previously.

It pays to have a fresh set of eyes look over your work, no matter how experienced you are!

Stabilizer Tips - the problems & the plan ...ERushing

Since my QB Wings & Fuse won't be here for at least another month, I've decided to finish the tail fiberglass.  more


Garmin VIRB Video Displayed in GDU 4XX Display ...g3xpert

Yes, if you connect the composite video signal output from any model Virb camera to the video input on the back of your GDU 4XX display, you will be able to see the camera image on the display at all times whether you are recording or not.

Additionally, the wireless control built into the display will control the Virb camera and allow you to start/stop recording and take pictures.

thread one info

thread two info


Mystery Structures ...Vlad


The Avery's ...Jim Pappas chimes in

In the early summer of 2010, as many of you know, I was diagnosed with cancer and had surgery in June that year.

Among the hundreds of you that sent me get well messages and encouragement were the Avery's.

I told them in private chats, that I planned to make it to Oshkosh even though I would only be about 6-7 weeks post op.

I told them I was tempted to push it, and go to show that you CAN beat cancer.

They knew the odds, and had dealt with it too, so they knew what I was planning was not wise but they were supportive beyond belief.

They sent me a couple free VAF Tshirts so I could emblazon "I BEAT CANCER SO WHATS A LITTLE RAIN" on them, as the forecast that year did not look good.

They gave me FIRM instructions that I was to check in with them as soon as I arrived at OSH, and they would have cold water in the booth for me.

Well when I walked in first it was hugs all around, then I think they realized as others would later that day just how bad I looked, and immediately made me sit and drink and cool off. They were so worried they kept asking shouldn't I go home? Not me, too stubborn.

They kept me there for about half an hour? When I got up to go visit other friends booths they said I had to check in on my way out!

Then more hugs and words I'll never forget "It's great to see someone beat it for once".

I didn't make it long at OSH, in total maybe 90 mins.....but I had to stop by on my way out to once more say good bye, and head home realizing what a huge mistake it was to push it that soon, but I was so glad to see them and to show them that, yes, I had good news.

I still have the shirts, I'm still cancer free 5 1/2 years later, and as it turns out that was the last time I got to go to OSH and see them.

As they go into Retirement I want them to know that beyond the planes, and tools, and Shows....

They had a huge impact in helping keep a very sick guy recover before, and beyond that day, and I was only one of many I am sure that they helped in some way, so it should not come as a surprise to anyone what these folks did over the years for so many of us.

Thank you folks for always being there for me, and for us, if you ever need the favor returned. Assuming there's a way I can do anything close to what you did for me all you need is ask.

God Bless and many more wonderful years to you all.

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related: User's Guide



11/9/2015.  0001 UTC.  Issue No. 3,985. 
  College ball, some exercise, Mass, yard work, NFL games...and the weekend is in the books.  Hope you had a nice one, and got off the surface for a bit.  

Ollies BBQ Flyin @Loves Field Is In The Book For 2015!!!


Sebring Aerobatic Championships- Most RV entries ever!

Kathy and I just returned from Sebring; 3.1 hours and over 2 hours IMC. The Sebring IAC Chapter 23 put on yet another outstanding event and four RV pilots competed. I recall that there was a "one design" contest in Giddings,Texas in 2008 but even after re-designing the Primary sequence to eliminate the spin only three RV's showed. I think we have proven that the RV is perfectly capable of flying the Primary and Sportsman IAC sequences without modification (spins included) and the four attending the Sebring event are proof of that. Bill McLean and I flew the Sportsman category and first timers Curt Sullivant and Mark Wesson flew in the Primary category. Curt flies a very nice RV-6 and Mark flies a very aerobatic RV-9 (yes, RV-9!). Both had a great time and promised to continue competing and hopefully bring a few buddies along to share the fun. Bill McLean took home a couple of third place medals for the first two flights and the rest of us had a good time too . I make no excuses but I will mention that I found that some highly qualified national IAC judges will not recognize a RV snap roll unless they see a definite positive pitch change prior to the roll. After getting a few "hard zeros" for my avalanche (loop with a snap roll on top) I was told by the contest director Marcus Cade that high performance monoplanes (Extras, MXs, etc) with full-span ailerons can do an aileron roll as quickly as a snap roll so to determine that a snap is not just an aileron roll the judges need to see a positive pitch change just prior to the rotation. Of course the RV with it's little ailerons can't possibly do an aileron roll as quickly as it can snap but most judges don't know that so I need to insure that the pitch up prior to my roll is more recognizable. I'll work on that.


Courtesy Car List Updated

I've streamlined the process.  Updates will show up MUCH quicker. 


Ready for airworthiness inspection ...Rayh

Wow, I am so ready to get my plane in the air before the snow starts flying. A week ago I called the FAA MIDO office in PA that covers WV and asked for some assistance in having someone from the FSDO office in Charleston, WV 80 miles away from me. Still waiting on a call back if they are willing to help. Normally the Charleston FSDO tells people they will not do them, so we shall see.
I may have to go the DAR route but it appears there aren't any closer than 3-4 hour drive time away.
My other option is to take the wings off and trailer it 30 miles away to Ohio where the Columbus FSDO will come and do it.
If I have to go the DAR route does anyone have any recommendations of one that is near the East side of Ohio or West side of WV?

Wheel Bearings Greased...annual inspection continues.

Randy 'Monkey' Richmond has a nice setup for re-greasing wheel bearings.  Surprisingly fun.


David Henderson, Rest in Peace

I received a very sad notice from our EAA chapter690 president this morning on Dave Henderson's passing. I and all his friends will miss Dave immeasurably.

He was the one I wanted to make the 1st flight in Miss Sandy, my RV7.

He was a good friend, I'll miss you Dave.

My First Big Mistake ...[ed. And welcome to the club.  We've all done it!  dr]

Long time listener... first time caller....

Started my RV10 build a week ago, and I think I made my first non-recoverable mistake. I had the vertical stabilizer cleco'd together and everything was going fine. I removed the skin for dimpling. While dimpling, the skin somehow moved as I was swinging my hammer and i wound up making a new hole, right next to the one that was supposed to be dimpled.

I'm thinking I need to call Van's tomorrow and order a new skin.

Anyone have any thoughts?


Canopy Opening / Prop Strike

Pasted in below is my copy of the incident report submitted to my insurance company. Hopefully it will be of some help if anyone has a similar problem. Yes, I am well aware of what I could have/ should have done. I've been through those 2 seconds MANY times. I had the canopy pop open during my second or third PAP flight 5 years ago but that was at cruise conditions and 2500 feet and was a non-event-- other than scaring me at least half to death. I really believe if I'd had another 10 or 15 feet of altitude this might have been the same.

Yes, I plan to install the canopy warning system-- can someone tell me just how that works? It is really necessary to leave the canopy up on the latch handle during long taxies in the summer, and I don't want an alarm scaring my passengers. What I'd REALLY like is a better latch system. preferably one that secures the canopy to the side rail.

Got my fire suit on

Wayne 120241/143WM 351.5 hours/5 years

30 October 2015
RV-12 N143WM

On this date I was conducting a local area VFR flight with the intent of burning off fuel in preparation for the annual Condition Inspection I planned to begin the next day. I shot touch and go landings at Greene County Regional, my home airport, Dayton-Wright Brothers airport, and Moraine Airpark (I73) before making a full stop landing at I73. After talking with friends for a while, I began departure from I73 intending to return to I19. Checklist and run-up were normal. Takeoff was made with takeoff trim set and the recommended 1 notch of flaps.
Almost immediately after lift-off the canopy popped open an estimated 8-12 inches— it varied with airspeed. Wind blast knocked my hat off, taking my headset and glasses with it. The aircraft pitched down, there was a loud BANG, and rebounded into the air. I regained control, reduced airspeed to 50-55 knots, and continued to climb. I continued to an open area West of I73 and found that at 1 notch of and 55 knots or less I could pull the canopy back down to get the latch bar under the rollover bar but could not latch it because the sides had spread due to air loads and the canopy pins would not go into their slots. Experimentation showed the airplane was stable and controllable with no apparent problems at 55 KIAS.
Returning back East (I19 is East of I73) I saw a truck drive out to the runway intersection where I’d hit, Circling I73 there was no radio call so I assumed that there was no damage and returned to I19 (10-minute flight at 55 KIAS). Flew a normal pattern (at lower speed) and landed at minimum speed, holding the nose off as long as possible. When the nose dropped it became obvious there was no nosewheel. The prop did not strike the ground and the engine continued to run until shut down. I had no problem remaining on the runway. Inspection showed the nosewheel was gone (recovered later at I73), the fork had folded at the lower bend, and there was about 1/16 inch ground off one prop tip and just slightly more off the other. There were no prop marks on the runway at I19 bet there were at I73. Inspection of the nosewheel fork showed that the welds broke, allowing it to separate from the fork

I have a Master’s in AeroSpace Engineering and spent 37 years as an aircraft design specialist in the Conceptual Design Group ay Wright-Patterson AFB. This is what I believe happened. It is possible that the canopy latch was not completely engaged. It WAS engaged enough to prevent air coming into the cabin (Cool day!) and enough to keep the canopy from rattling during engine runup, mag check, and takeoff run. When the canopy opened, the latch handle sheared the heads off three rivets in the bottom of the roll bar and damaged another. The airplane was trimmed for takeoff and had just lifted off. In those conditions the stabilator is exerting a large downward force to maintain pitch-up angle of attack with the increased wing pitching moment with one notch of flaps. With the canopy up 8-10 inches I believe the airflow over the tail was sufficiently disturbed to reduce the effectiveness of the stabilator and cause the aircraft to pitch down, resulting in nose-first impact with the runway, followed my main gear hitting, then rebounding,at which point I was able to counter the pitch-down force until I was able to almost completely close the canopy.

Things to check (annual)

While replacing the broken bracket I lifted the coils beneath the ignition modules and found the powder coating worn completely through (located at the end of the red line).I primed and painted this small area then used a washer at each end of the coil attachment to shim vertically and prevent further abrasion.



11/6/2015.  0039UTC.  Issue No. 3,984. 
  Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend.  

From a J3 to an RV-12 ...Jim Stricker

Not first flight for the RV-12 but first flight for me flying an RV-12. Big RV smile...    Previous 1200 flight hours were exclusively in a Piper Cub.  I owned a ’46 Cub for 23 years and traded for 12058 with 50TT. Flew it right out of the box with just an hour transition with the owner/builder.


From New Zealand

It has taken more than three years, but a group of young Nelson men have finished the aeroplane they started building as students.  ...


The importance of a new set of eyes on your work ...AX-O

You have heard it before, you will hear it again. I am familiar with the concept and have used it. In fact, before my first flight, I had about 8 folks look at "Dilemma" before the DAR inspection.

Last week I identified that I had a leak on the manifold side due to the engine having troubles idling and the MP only going down to 13 inches vice approx. 10 inches during idle. The plan was to remove and replace all my gaskets on my fuel servo and intake tubes because everything else was fine. Not really a hard job but time consuming. A buddy (nameless to protect the innocent) wanted to come down and spend the day talking planes. So I told him “you can come down but we are working”.

As we are going over the plan of attack we kneel down next to the motor and he pulls one of my MP lines and it falls out on his hand. As Homer Simpson would say, "Dohhhhh". How embarrassing!

This particular line had a number 2 aluminum hard line flared and connected to an AN fitting on one side then a “plastic” type line over the OD of the aluminum line going towards the MP gauge. The aluminum line remained inside the AN B-nut but the flare was completely separated. So from the outside looking at the line/fitting it looked fine. We ran a rubber line directly from the engine MP pick up to the MP gauge and the plane idled fine. I later replaced all my lines with new rubber lines. His trip saved me a few hours’ worth of work and head scratching.

The story does not end there. As my bud filled his aircraft with fuel I was looking at the trailing edge of his flap where it meets the fuselage (as we all do when we are trying to figure out how you will work on your own aircraft). I noticed that his flap had a small crack starting to form on the trailing edge most likely due to the flexing caused by when the flaps are retracted and they meet with the fuselage. I pointed it out to him and he was not aware of the issue.

So, the moral of the story. Have someone look at your work periodically and volunteer to do the same. When you identify something make the owner/pilot aware of the issue in a tactful way so no one’s pride gets hurt. And at the end feel good about the fact that you helped your bud be safer, you mitigated an issue, and potentially reduced EAB accidents in general.

Go check your MP lines and flap trailing edges.


The Yearly Inspection Continues....  

Wheels off.  Tread looks good.  Brake pads look good.  Picking up new plugs tonight (running NGK BR8ES car plugs....using two Pmags).  Repacking wheel bearings in morning.



11/5/2015.  0111UTC.  Issue No. 3,983. 
   Let me take a moment today to tell you that there is hope for this world.  Our next generation has some shining stars in the making.  Yesterday I got a call from Citicard saying someone tried to use our credit card number to make an online $400 purchase in Washington state.  They tried five times.  Then two more amounts at two more online sites, both denied.  This is not the person I'm talking about, BTW.
   As a precautionary action they locked down the card and said they would mail us a new one FedEx priority. They did say, however, that since it was after 3 PM that we wouldn't get the card the next day, but instead on Friday. I explained to the lady that we only have the one credit card, asking if there was any way to do that thing where they guarantee delivery the next morning for a slightly higher fee.  No.  Twenty years as a Citicard customer, and the first time we actually needed the card the next day...no joy.  And I know what you're thinking....one day without a credit card could be the very definition of a first world problem.
   So anyway, back to the hope aspect.  I got together some cash bills so our family could operate on a cash basis Thursday (gas for the truck and a few groceries most likely).  When I went upstairs to our spare bedroom office, resting on my keyboard was $170 in cash that our son had laid down. The note said, "You can use mine if you need it.  Pay me back when you can."
   He is 15.  Thank you God, once again, for letting this wonderful young man be a part of my life. 


New England Flight ...Gary Sobek

Took this yesterday heading East out of Rhode Island. Photo taken in the vicinity of where Massachusetts, Connecticut, and Rhode Island meet.


Status Report ...Don Patrick

Big day today....brought the fuselage to the airport on Saturday and got the engine hung today. Sequence was top right, top left, bottom right and bottom left.

Some frustrating moments, but with a little help and persuasion, she's bolted on.

Now I have to figure out how to rotate the back of the prop governor about 180 degrees.



N124TT restoration is officially finished. The conditional inspection was signed off today. It's ready to fly. Glamor shots to follow.
Arlie Conner
RV-4 (N124TT)
KOCH Nacogdoches


Nov/Dec Special from TruTrak


The Yearly Inspection Continues.....Dirty Under The Floor

WHERE does all this muck under the floorboards come from?!?!  Where the pushrods enter the side of the fuse I suspect.  I need to boot that off better.  Every year I spend time with Simple Green and a rag on my hands and knees wiping down in here.  And look at all the gunk around the hinge line for the seat backs.  Flying since 2002 equal sign dirt in ALL the crevices.  Amazing how filthy these airplanes get!

No major surprises this time around so far.  Cleaning the plugs and repacking the wheel bearings tomorrow.  That's the plan at least.  Heavy rains forecast which might change everything.

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Mothership Stats



11/4/2015.  0001UTC.  Issue No. 3,982. 

Pine Bluff Formation Clinic Cancelled - or was it? ...chipf

I spent the first 6 months of 2015 earning a commercial certificate. Being very goal oriented, I was looking for the next flying challenge so I decided to see what formation was about. I don't have any aspirations of team aerobatics, but flying in nice diamond formation over the football game seems just my speed. So I started studying and that led me to trolling for a formation clinic to attend. The Pine Bluff clinic popped up and I signed up and made the hotel reservations.  continue


The Averys ...Mr. Collins starts the thank you thread.

I guess when Avery Tools wasn't at Oshkosh this year, it signaled the end of an era and today's note that Bob and his wife are retiring and ending the business is good news for them. So, congratulations.

That said, it marks another iconic passage. Such is life and all but the Avery family (the whole employee group) were a beacon of helpfulness at a time when there weren't forums or the Internet to get help and answers outside of a call to Van's.

They also set a standard for customer service that others who cater to our sport/hobby are required to meet because that's what we're use to and what we demand.

They were, above all, "one of us." That's important.

Thanks to the Avery "family" one and all for being there for us. We wish you happy travels.

[ed. Mr. Avery, I'm right there with everyone with my thanks.  You spent thirty minutes with me back in 1996 showing me how to drill, debur, dimple and how to use a pneumatic squeezer.  Private lesson!!!  You and Judy enjoy your retirement!!!  ]


McKinney Eagle's Nest ...philcam

McKinney Eagle's Nest now has their online blog set up. All blogging is done by the students. Follow their progress here:


First Flight N243RB ...Larry DeCamp RV-3

"The -3 meets it reputation and expectations. 762 LB empty climbs and flies like an Angel on ball bearings."


November/December 2015



11/3/2015.  0051Z.  Issue No. 3,981. 
   Can I brag on my son a bit?  He raised his science grade in the second semester of freshman high school science from a 75 to an 83.  Go Tater! 

Fresh out of GLOCustom.com (Grady and Brandon)


Dad's Tools Never Stop Helping

Due to interests in skateboards, floor routine, trampolines and soccer as a kid, I've worn my left knee pretty much to minimums.  As such, it is always harder to crawl back in that baggage area of my RV-6 for the yearly inspection (going on now).  This year, the 13th inspection, I *finally* had the good idea to plug some of my late Dad's socket extensions together and see if I could loosen those screws with a little less bending.  Success.  Many of the screws were removed without even getting in the plane.  Picked them up with one of those grabber thingys.

Screwdriver bit in a 1/4" socket held in with tape.  Of note are the Snap-On TM77 ratchet adapter and TMS70A spinner, purchased in the late 70's I'd suspect for next to nothing.  I know he would smile if he knew how some of his tools are still on the job....being operated by half a copy of his DNA.

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Carbon Fiber Finishing ...Bob Kuykendall reply

We call that "aesthetic carbon." We don't do much of it; we're mostly a structural carbon shop.

It is rather difficult to get a pinhole-free surface with epoxy unless you are using advanced techniques and materials. Epoxy beads up on a waxed surface, and it is hard to get all the beads to hold hands even with the best of technique.

Two tricks we have used to get reasonable aesthetic carbon parts:

* Paint the mold with polyester resin, let cure, and then do an epoxy layup on top of that. The polyester wets the waxed mold OK, and the epoxy wets the polyester OK.

* Make an epoxy/carbon part, cure, and demold. Clean and acetone the molded surface, varnish with polyester resin, and then spritz with acetone to smooth out the varnish.

In my experience, the black carbon fiber surface will probably have a limited aesthetic life when used where it will get direct sunlight. Unless you're using a high-temp process like pre-preg, the high temps and temperature cycling will cause the surface coat to go either yellow or chalky pretty quickly.

Thanks, Bob K.


Status Report ...greghughespdx

Recently most of the work has been on elevators and rudder and stabilizer hanging, fitting, etc. Just last night the tail feathers went on the fuselage for good (I hope hah).

[ed. BTW, I think Greg is doing a wonderful job of documenting his build using the forums.  Note how he created a dedicated thread in the 'My RV Build Project' section, and hosts his pictures on Flickr.  I think this would satisfy any DAR, especially if you look at the 'printable version' that could easily be saved as a PDF file on your tablet/phone.  Timestamps, dates...the whole smash.  My whole site is backed up weekly in a dedicated, secure data center, and I'm betting his pics are also.  Lastly, he has a link to 'his thread' in his autosignature.  Great idea! 



Advanced Flight Quick Panels ...Rob Hickman

"October was a record breaking month for Advanced Flight Systems. The Advanced Quick Panels are proving to be extremely popular. In fact, we shipped 4 of them on Friday.

Looking to upgrade your old panel that has a GRT EIS or Dynon EMS?
We just released a new software update that will let your existing EMS (D180, D10 EMS, D120 EMS, GRT EIS) provide engine data to a AF-5000 EFIS. The new software makes upgrading to a new Advanced EFIS with an integrated engine display even easier."


Fuel System PIREP ...David Paule RV-3B

I don't think I posted this photo before. The photo was taken a year ago to show any prospective inspectors or buyers that yes, indeed, I installed anti-rotation parts on the fuel lines.

It shows the anti-rotation devices that I installed on the fuel lines. Note that no safety wire is needed, and I didn't bother to drill any holes for it. Yes, if I ever need to remove the fuel pickup line I'll have to unrivet the brackets (nutplates could have been used), but I decided that was unlikely.

Putting the bracket on the nut blocked two rotational degrees of freedom at once: the nut can't unscrew, and the fuel pickup line can't rotate in its hole in the access port.

The one on the left is a bit bulkier than I like but that's what it took. Keen weight-conscious readers might observe that I could have lightened these parts, and I agree. I should have.


From Bill Miksich...



11/2/2015.  0128UTC.  Issue No. 3,980. 

Update: Painted ...Lars


Bob & Judy Avery are Retiring.


Hangar Broke on Me ...Weasel


From the Mothership FB Page


Panel Status ...BruceMe


First start ...Rayh

Today was the day. Finally pushed the 12 out and fired it up. Started fine. Two issues though. After about 5 minutes, CHT left and right went above above 200 degrees. I shut it down before they got any higher. Also, right EGT on dynon not registering any temps. I pulled the top cowl off and everything appeared fine. I will dig further into troubleshooting tomorrow.

Another formation with my Buddy...RV8iator


Prop Strike/gearbox check- Questions ...Wayne RV-12

Had an incident yesterday where the prop tips touched the runway. Did NOT break props, did NOT stop engine. One tip has maybe 1/16" abraded off, the other 1/16 to 1/8". One a standard category engine this would not be a problem but I've been told that Rotax requires that the gearbox be torn down and inspected and that this requires the engine be pulled and sent to an authorized facility.

1) is this in fact the case?

2) Is there a facility closer to Ohio than Lockwood>

3) suggestions?

Panel Status ...Dayton Murdock


Keep an Eye on Those Ring Terminals ...Michael Robinson

Took off this AM for a quick flight around the neighborhood. Within a few minutes of takeoff I feel a sharp pinch on my bare leg - like a bee sting. A search of the cockpit does not reveal any critters, and my leg looks unscathed. I'm about to write it off as nothing when I catch sight of a pinhead sized metallic object drop out from behind the panel and land right on my leg, with the same painful results as before. I quickly figure out that it's molten solder, leaking out of my instrument panel. OK, time to land and figure this one out. Ammeter shows nothing abnormal, but a careful hand survey of my strobe light switch reveals that the wire is loose and too hot to touch. All lights off and uneventful landing ensued.

Inspection revealed that the screw securing the soldered and crimped ring terminal to the output lug on the switch/breaker was slightly loose, causing enough localized arcing to generate considerable heat. Enough to melt solder. And yes, the breaker is functional.

So the takeaway for me is that you can have a very high localized heat condition that won't show up on the ammeter, pop a breaker, create any radio noise, or show up at all until stuff starts to smoke. I was fortunate in a sense that the builder of my Rocket used soldered connections that gave me an "early warning".

I have a new focus area on my future inspections - just thought I'd share the experience.

Too cute video by Ron Schreck


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