July 28, 2016. Issue No. 4,168.
(566) RVs on field at peak is the count as fw'd to me, breaking the
record of (480) in 2012. How cool is that?
RV Fly-over Tuesday.
(click to enlarge)
(Gary Sobek saw it somewhere and
fwd'd to me).
Osh pics ...John
RV Folks at OSH Photo ...Rich Klarich
(click to enlarge)
You know that bit about pilots being tight with money?
"The Homebuilders line for a FREE donut. They say the cheapest
thing about flying is the pilot. This line helps prove it."
----- Gary Sobek (& photo).
From the mothership FB page...
July 27, 2016. Issue No. 4,167.
Courtesy John (RV-12 N1212K)
N199MJ Up, Up, and Away ...woodmanrog
N199MJ took to the skies today at 8:38 am EDT. The engine purred
like a kitten -- all temps in the green. Highest engine temp at 75%
power 381 degrees with outside air temp of 95 degrees. Myra and I
flew almost 4 hours today. Kudos to Nathan Rigaud of Two Bums
Aircraft, Inc. in Sebastian, FL for all of his assistance and
expertise in getting us to this incredible day. We are the 9th RV14
flying. Pictures coming soon.
Wed OSH Stuff:
OSHKOSH GROUP PHOTO - WEDNESDAY 8-30AM
"Wednesday morning, 8:30am at the Special RV Parking display,
just WEST of the Homebuilder's Registration building. Please
wear any RV related shirt you have."
Team Redline RV Flight Team night Air Show
RV Social PIREP ...DanH
Well, another Social is in the history books. The weather was
perfect, the beer was cold, and everybody smiled…a lot.
Nothing flies without money...no bucks, no Buck Rogers. Many
thanks to Gallagher Insurance, Barrett Precision Engines,
Continental Motors, Delta Pop, EXP Aircraft Services, JD Air,
Kitplanes Magazine, Perry Hill Automobile Company, SteinAir, TruTrak,
and TS Flightlines.
And now, a few more photos.
RV-3B Status Report ...David Paule
I ordered another dozen #40 drill bits and half a dozen #30 bits
a few days ago. When I bought this kit I ordered a bunch of these
from an otherwise reliable vendor and those bits were not so good. A
competitor sent me some samples and I've been buying bits from them
Made the F-315 outboard seat ribs. These have that 1 1/4" strip of
.025 in the saddle. The plans and one of the builder's logs show
that it should be under the rib flange. Most of the other builders
seem to rivet it to the top of the flange. Don't know if it'll be a
gotcha later, but I riveted them to the top, too.
These seat ribs fit reasonably well except for the rear flange,
which I cut off and replaced by an angle.
July 26, 2016. Issue No. 4,166.
RV Social Monday Underway. Pic and pano courtesy S. Balmos.
RV Stuff at OSH Today
Schedule: Tuesday, July 26th at 10:00 AM
Location: Theatre in the Woods, at the east end (facing the flight
- 34-ship RV formation overflights (four passes, 11am takeoff)
- Van's Aircraft Banquet (you got a ticket, right?)
RV-4 Panel ...olyolson
Ok so it's not a Fancy glass panel like Fitz has but I
couldn't justify the bucks required for a full glass cockpit for
the type of flying I normally do. This is what you can do if you
buy smart, look for used equipment (mostly here on the forum)
and don't mind some round gauges. The carbon fiber look is from
using 3M Carbon Fiber tape- easy to use, allows for screw ups
and redos (Axel's idea). Just peel off a bit, heat up with a
heat gun and reapply-easy. Ok granted the Garmin GTR 200 and the
Aera 660 are new but everything else is used including the
ex-military stick & throttle.
Had to send the used Narco 122 VOR/ILS for repair but it was a
relatively cheap fix. The "used" Trio EZ Pilot also had to be
sent to the Trio company for repair/update but if you are
willing to deal with some minor issues you can get a reasonably
affordable IFR panel.
Made it ...Jetguy
Landed OSH Sunday evening about 445pmct. Very hot throughout
out journey. But had a great tail wind. Planes flew well, great
Picture is at Fayetteville AR. We were able to fly from North
Texas to OSH without using any 100LL. Thats Bob Kibby next to
his RV12. Because of tail winds we only Stopped 3 time. Last
Stop was 37nm south of OSH so we will not need to buy Fuel at
the show where they only have 100LL.
I'm just wrapping up the annual and it's time for some engine
runs and see how the new boots/cowling work together. It fired
right up and ran like it should. The first run was just in the
idle/fast idle range for about a minute. After shutdown I had
some smoke exiting the inlets and behind the spinner and once I
opened it the oil door. It didn't smell like a
fuel/oil/electrical smoke but I still got the cowl off in a
hurry. I found a light dusting of pink foam dust on the
components of the lower cowl, I think that along with dust/mouse
milk on exhaust joints/LPS overspray was causing the light
smoke. Pie helping me with the first engine start,
as you can see she's feeling like her old self with plenty of
From AX-O Monday...
Ground Shot ...Arlie Conner RV-4
RV-7 Status ...pazmanyflyer
July 25, 2016. Issue No. 4,165.
Gary Sobek texted me
Sunday afternoon, "35 or 36 RV flight safe on ground @ OSH".
Then we exchanged humidity levels and heat indexes - him 64%/99*F
and me 37%/109*F. He texted everyone was soaked through at OSH
but having fun. Looking forward to the pics as they appear
online. The HBC beer
tasting is apparently going on as I type this. Maybe some
pics will turn up Monday post hangovers.
Hope my friends attending OSH have a wonderfully fun and
Tom & Bonnie Summer 2016
Arrived safe at Osh thread ...chime in if you feel like it.
The RV Social Monday After the Airshow
RV 14A, one more flying!!! ...Rich's N2261
And then there were "8"! Pink slip yesterday and 1st flight
today. First time builder. Big GRIN. What a great plane this is.
Thank you Vans. Flew great. 5000' for 1.5 hours. 75% power OAT
70' F. CHT,s 330 to 370. EGT's 1200 to 1250, fuel flow 16 gph.
Oil temp 210'. All good. 24 in. mp. 2500 rpm. TAS 150. Keep
pounding those rivets. Your turn will come soon
Bug and Bee may now fly ...woodmanrog
On Friday, July 22nd, The Bug and Bee was signed off to be
able to spread her wings. We should have our first flight
Tuesday, July 25th. Whoopy!!!
Living the Dream, Landing at OSH in our RV-8 ...Charlie
What a remarkable journey this has been. We departed Auburn
California on Wednesday, July 20th. Made it to Osh from Austin
Minnesota on Friday before noon. What we encountered along our
route was amazing, sometimes a little frightening.
The turbulence at 13.5 over Utah and Wyoming was jolting to say
We made it to Torrington WY and stayed the night. I wonder what
happen to the four gentleman in a 182 we met while fueling in
Wendover NV. They too were headed to Torrington but I didn't see
them on the ramp. I hope they make it to Osh safely.
Mothership Crew On Their Way to OSH ...FB pics
Ground Shot ...McPilot
Audrey is home from nuclear chemistry summer school in San Jose.
She got back to Dallas on Saturday and is now back in the lab
at SMU Monday for a few weeks until classes start (Senior).
She got the shirt...
And yes, I enjoy talking to my daughter
about fission, fusion, gun assembly and implosion trigger
techniques and refinement amounts of U-235 and Pu-239.
Call me a hopeless romantic... And proud.
July 22, 2016. Issue No. 4,164.
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend!
OSH Bound....Sid Mayeux 7A
RV-6 30th Year Anniversary T-Shirt
...Limited Edition Commemorative Garment from
Window Trim Jig ...Cbull RV-10
I've taken so many ideas from this forum but really haven't given
back. So here goes:
I think this only relates to RV-10's, why I'm posting here. I don't
really know what builders do for the junction where the windows meet
the fiberglass on the inside. Here is my solution, sorry if its been
For this example I used 1/4" deep #8507K14 rubber edge trim from
McMaster Carr. I basically made a little jig to cut one side off of
the edge trim. To cut the trim I generously applied WD-40 to the
trim as I pull it through the cutter. 20' of window trim in 2
minutes, perfectly cut.
I used the 3M instant adhesive in the pic below and installed about
3" at a time. The super glue is very expensive, $30 for that little
bottle, but wow does it hold. I haven't even put a dent in it with
almost all my trim installed.
A picture is worth a thousand words, so here are roughly 7000 words:
Shop Status Report ...scard
"...I'm looking forward to having it 68 degrees when it is 105
"You made the shirt, Terry!!!" ...Ian post re: the EAA 30 yr
I love the shirt!! That is my plane in the back. I bought the
plane from Terry Jackson, and his wife designed the paint scheme.
While there may be other -6's out there painted like mine, until I
You made the shirt, Terry!!!!!!
Visit Garmin Team X at OSH! ...& daily seminar sched.
Cabin Top Fit Question / Photos ...Justin
Need some assistance on what to sand down more in order to get a
batter cabin top fit. Here's where I'm at right now. Over all it
seems to fit well except for.....Both sides have about the same
1/8th inch area visible on the flange but near the aft end it
disappears. Is this normal or what area should I sand to have
this drop down more? I first thought it was the flange back area
hitting the longeron but there's a gap right there. Thanks!
Superior Air Parts Forum Sched
...emailed to me by TexMex lunch friend Scott Hayes (VP there)
July 21, 2016. Issue No. 4,163.
Colorado! ...Pete Howell Trip Report
Andi and I turned 50 and the RV turned 10 this year. We decided
to get out and celebrate! The mission was pretty simple, see an
unique National Park, do some mountain flying, and get in a bit of
We wanted to hit the mountains early so we flew halfway on thursday
night and camped in the pilot lounge at McCook, NE on a hot rainy
night. Shirley at the FBO was the best, gave us the car, and told us
the best places to eat. We even caught the local Legion game!
RV-14 Status ...Mark in NJ
Hello All, I thought I would post a few pictures of my baby. It's
still in utero but coming along. Wings on order, due to arrive in
Garmin® Team X introduces the GTX 45R and GTX 35R ADS-B transponders
for experimental aircraft
This is a GREAT RV family ...Jeff Vaughan
My family and I have been vacationing in Mid-coast Maine for the
last 25 years. We always drive to our rental house with numerous
bikes, Kayaks, and kids. I love Maine but I have always thought that
my vacation could always be better if I got some air time and had
the opportunity to check out the local area from above. To haul all
the stuff I would need a DC-3 or maybe a Cessna Caravan.
About two years ago David Valcik moved his home and RV12 from
Eastern Pa where I am located to the Belfast Me area. I contacted
David before we left for Me in hopes I could get a ride in his very
nice RV12. "Of course" was his quick reply. This year I decided we
rented for two weeks so it gave us many days to get a flight in.
TruTrak working on multiple STCs for Cessna 172
(from Andrew (RV-4 owner))
Springdale, AR July 16, 2015- TruTrak Flight Systems is pleased to
announce that they are working on STCs for the Eco and Vizion
Autopilots. TruTrak has acquired a Cessna 172, completed the initial
installation of a full Vizion system, and the roll axis installation
for the Eco. The Eco pitch axis installation will be completed
following EAA AirVenture.
The aircraft will be on display in TruTrak’s
outdoor booth #174 at EAA AirVenture. Both the Vizion and Eco
autopilots will be installed in the aircraft so that patrons may see
and learn about each system. The complete product line will be on
display at the indoor booth in building C 3030.
“We are very excited about both of these new
projects.” said CEO Andrew Barker “Our dream has long been to offer
the same safety enhancing autopilots to the certified market that we
have been offering the experimental market for the last fifteen
Founded in 1999, TruTrak is a leader and
innovator in the experimental and light sport aircraft autopilot
market. TruTrak has designed and manufactured many cutting edge
autopilots including the autopilots in the Virgin Atlantic Global
Flyer and most recently Solar Impulse.
SteinAir's OSH Employee Uniform
The site made the sleeve, baby!!!! Standard catchphrase at
the bottom <g>. Stein emailed me this pic today. dr
Status ...Martin Leroux RV-8
A month later, I still don't believe I have reached this stage in
Sometime June 16 just before Dinner time, there was an aluminum
canoe in my shop
What I really couldn't believe is that Yves and I achieved that in
about an afternoon, not more that 5 hours for joining fuselage
front, mid and tailcone.
Panel Status ...sbalmost
Just in time for Oshkosh, the panel comes alive. Still have to
finish the power wires for the ignition system indicators and label
backlighting. But everything else came right up. Only have to debug
why the VPX doesn't want to communicate with the MFD properly.
July 20, 2016. Issue No. 4,162.
A new -8 is born ...Herman in Germany
I recently completed my RV-8. Doing ground testing now. here are
IFR RV-4 Schematic ...FitzRX7
Just finished wiring my RV-4 panel up, Garmin G3X everything.
GPS-only IFR, redundant on almost all fronts, I think I have all my
bases covered except dual engines.
Wanted to see what the masses thought about how we ended up
designing it. I had a lot of help from some very smart people, many
many thanks are in order. Especially Paige Hoffart and Jim Beyer,
lots of their brain-bytes when into making this reality.
Some neat things on this are:
-$30 backup battery system instead of >$300 backup battery system.
4th of July weekend in Door County ...NovaBandit Trip Write-up
Doug Rozendaal's Rocket flying chase with 'Doc'.
Garmin OSH Announcements:
New Garmin Navigation Database & Database Bundle Options
We are excited to announce the availability of the new Garmin
Navigation Database and some new database bundle options. The
Garmin Navigation Database brings improved database coverage to
your G3X or G3X Touch system and lowers the cost of annual
database subscriptions for compatible Garmin panel mount GPS
units such as GNS 430W/530W and GTN series. Initial coverage is
limited to North America.
New Garmin® navigation databases bring trusted, cost-effective
solutions to the cockpit
announces new enhancements to the G500/G600 glass flight displays
Garmin Pilot™ app adds support to display Jeppesen terminal charts
Garmin® introduces new and exciting ways to interact with GTN™
Garmin® revolutionizes database management with wireless Database
CPI Install RV-10 ...Australia
My aircraft has just turned 2 years old and we have flown just
over 300hrs. While there are a few other threads about CPI
install, I thought I would share my experience as it goes together.
July 19, 2016. Issue No. 4,161.
Anchors Aweigh! ...Dick Van Grunsven
here’s the promised story to accompany the teaser photos of a couple
days ago. Yes, I was fortunate enough to spend a day (& night)
aboard the USS Carl Vinson aircraft carrier. The Carl Vinson is one
of ten Nimitz class carriers, the largest carriers in the Navy
inventory. I won’t bore you with vital statistics, as these are
available in the referenced links. Suffice it to say that it is
impressively large, sometimes noisy, ever impressive, etc.
The source of my good fortune was that of being in favor with EAA
headquarters. Apparently the Navy occasionally offers a block of
such “Embarkations” available to EAA, as well as many other
organizations. I had been aware that the Navy made such tours
available to parents (grandparents?) of service members, and other
special persons. Several people I had spoken with over the years had
had this experience, and all simply raved about it. Thus, I was
overwhelmed when offered this unexpected opportunity. I was a bit
concerned about being cleared because of my age and past medical
issues, but apparently I answered all of their screening questions
"The Experience” consisted of being flown from San Diego’s North Bay
Naval Air Station on board a C-2 “Greyhound” COD (Carrier Onboard
Delivery) aircraft. Regional airliners are luxurious compared to
this shore-to-ship shuttle, but none of us were complaining. There
are only two side windows in the entire cabin/cargo section - no
interior paneling, interior lights, etc. Boarding is via cargo
loading ramps at the rear of the fuselage. The seats face rearward,
and we were all wearing floatation vests and hard hats with ear
muffs for sound suppression. Arrival onboard the carrier was not
announced, and because we had apparently been flying around in low
level turbulence for a while, had no way of knowing when we were on
landing approach. Just a solid “thunk” of the wheels on the deck,
and then being pushed back (forward) into our rearward facing seats.
In about 2 second we came to a stop, the cable was detached, and we
taxied off to the parking area. Thus began about 24 hours of a
rather intense introduction to the tip of the arrow of the Navy’s
Much of our time on board was spent touring various parts of the
carrier and listening to talks on the vital and interrelated
functions. I will not try to cover them all, but rather will just
make a few random comments. One memorable briefing was given by a
Rear Admiral who was in charge of the Carrier Strike Group. He
looked younger than his presumed early fifties, and was an excellent
speaker. While he was outlining Navy Carrier capabilities, world
politics, etc., aircraft were making arrested landings and catapult
launches from the deck above. These sounds and vibrations punctuated
his talk and lent tangible drama to the presentation.
Carriers in the Nimitz Class are often referred to as 4 ½ acres of
sovereign U.S. territory which can be relocated anywhere in the
waters that cover about 70% of our planet. As such, it makes them a
unique and vital component of our nation’s military arm.
Particularly in the military actions in which we have become
involved in recent years, carriers are indispensable because of
The meals served were very good. Dinner in the Officers mess,
breakfast in the NCO’s mess, and lunch in the officer mess again. We
sat with servicemen and were encouraged to ask question about their
service experience and careers. All very interesting.
Our Navy “tour guides” were surprised to learn that all in our group
were pilots. Apparently most of their “Distinguished Visitors” are
not pilots. I guess that this just affirms the fact that we are a
very small minority.
We had several opportunities to observe flight deck operations.
Though the carrier is huge, by normal airport standards it is tiny.
Thus, close viewing proximity to the action was assured. Because we
were required to wear hard hats and protective goggles, photography
was difficult. No flash photography was permitted, for obvious
reasons. (I did get some decent photos and videos, but I’m sure that
you can find better on YouTube.) We were planning to watch some
night operations; by they were cancelled because of low clouds.
Though the Navy is capable launching and recovering under very
marginal conditions, this stage of qualification and currency
training required better conditions for safety reasons. The
following day we were able to view flight operations from a command
bridge several levels above the flight deck, which provided us a
fabulous vantage point.
One thing that struck me is the lack of personal space offered the
typical seaman. We were shown their berthing rooms; bunk beds with
about four levels, and adjacent lockers. (Many years ago as a junior
officer in the USAF I had occasion to visit the Airmen’s barracks
and noted the 4 per room accommodations which I noted as being small
in contrast to my personal BOQ room. These carrier accommodations
add new meaning to “compactness”.) When you realize that there are
over 5000 souls on board, you can better appreciate the need to
conserve space. While we didn’t have time so see what common space
and recreational opportunities were afforded the crewmen, this lack
of space caught me off guard. Now I better appreciate the meaning of
“Military Service”, with emphasis on SERVICE.
Speaking of space; everything on the ship is compact. The walkways,
aisles, or whatever the nautical term, are narrow and the doorways
(portals?) are narrower and require stepping through because their
bases are raised above floor level. The stairways are all ladders,
not stair steps and elevators as on cruise ships. Obviously, the
design features of the carrier are prioritized around its mission,
not the convenience of its crew. The relative luxury I experience on
a daily basis didn’t prepare me for this, though I should have
known. Not complaining; just explaining.
If our arrival onboard with the arrested landing may have been a
little anticlimactic, our departure was definitely memorable. The
boarding procedure was the same, and while we couldn’t see anything
as we taxied into position, we knew that our launch was imminent as
the engines revved up, the whole airplane shook in its restraints,
and the “flight attendant” raised and then lowered his hand.
Remember, we are facing rearward in our seats, with belts and
harnesses well tightened per instructions. Even so, when the “cat”
was cut loose, we were forced back (forward?) into our restraints
for what seemed a long time; actually about 2 seconds. That’s enough
time to accelerate to about 105 mph (or is it knots? Whatever.) far
better acceleration than even the hottest Tesla. Thus was the
approximate and fitting end to a memorable day at sea. I’ve spent a
quite a few days onboard luxury cruise ships, but I’d have traded
them all for this experience, if that had been the price of
As a veteran of military service and as a patriotic citizen, I have
always been a proponent of a strong military, so this experience
only reinforced my confidence in their ability to “get the job
done”. Also, we must remember that the military’s job is to execute
the commands of our elected officials who have to make difficult
policy decisions in our increasingly complex world.
My apologies to our Navy hosts for my incomplete and/or incorrect
representations or terminology. To an even greater degree than
general aviation, the seagoing Navy has a vernacular which has
evolved over hundreds of years, and is at times foreign to us
landlubbers. To the Navy and EAA; my sincere gratitude for this
- Dick Van Grunsven
Captions and Pics
0077 FA-18 On “Short Final”
0170 View from ‘Bridge” showing the two forward “Cats”.
0196 close up photo of the arresting cable, showing size and
0203 All 15 member of the EAA crew. Second from left side of photo
is Jack Pelton, then Alan Klapmeier (Cirrus), Someone with dark
glasses, Dick VanGrunsven, etc.
0066 The Admiral, following his briefing” talking with Jack Pelton
page Aircraft Carrier Embark Brief) ...2.67MB PDF document
Status Report 9A West Virginia ...gsxphil
Evening Project: Put that old HVAC / Furnace squirrel fan to good
use ...David Nelson
With summer heat solidly upon us, a bit of moving air can sure
help. If you've an old squirrel fan from a HVAC / furnace lying
around (or know of somebody who's getting their HVAC/furnace
replaced), here's a fun little project to convert the blower into a
handy and portable fan. Just to clarify, this is not the fan that
sits outside in the condenser unit.
Depending on the blower design, you may have to build some kind of a
support to keep the blower stationary. For the one pictured below, I
built a cradle out of some scrap cedar pickets and 2x4's. The 2x4's
were ripped down the middle and beveled to increase the friction
between the cradle and the blower. The entire cradle assembly is
glued and screwed. The blower wedges itself (there's about a 3/8"
gap between the bottom of the blower and floor of the cradle) and
it's surprisingly stable. With the cradle, I can rotate the fan from
about 30* downward (great for when working under the RV) to straight
up (great when hanging those new lights in the hangar).
Panel Before and After ...FitzRX7
Haven't posted on VAF much, but with all the great info was able
to complete a panel upgrade and complete electrical system overhaul
on my '96 RV-4 (not built by me). Thanks for all the great info on
Ramona, Henderson, Salt Lake, and Long Beach in a weekend ...bruceh
This is the kind of utility these wonderful machines offer. I
took my daughter from Ramona (San Diego area) up to Salt Lake City
(by way of a Friday overnight stop near Las Vegas) to do some
apartment hunting. She starts at the University of Utah graduate
school in August. A full Saturday in Salt Lake City, then home via a
quick stop in Corona for cheap fuel, then Long Beach, CA for lunch
with family and to pick up her new car she bought from her cousin.
Back home at 5pm sipping a beer.
Status Report ...N546RV
Finally finished shooting rivets on the bottom of the canoe and
rolled it back upright again. I'm glad to not be spending any more
time sitting under that thing sweating profusely all over my
New panel for the RV-3 ...Al Girard
I wanted to add an auto pilot, in the process added an EIS and
managed to squeeze in a mount for the IPAD mini. This plane is
awesome and really enjoy it and the friends I've made as well. See
you all at KOSH! Yes, the glare sheild is extra custom and works
Build Status Report ...kentlik
July 18, 2016. Issue No. 4,160.
First Customer Built RV14 Lands at OSH ...TimO
Hey all, had a great day today with the RV-14. Took it to OSH for
it's first real x/c flight, landed and got to taxi right into show
center at Papa 2, and shut it down while I got my campsites. I guess
that officially makes me the first customer to bring their 14 to OSH
but it will not be the last time or year it makes it there. It was a
beautiful day for flying, and I'm oh so happy to be D.O.N.E.
Scammers/Spammers...reminder they exist.
It's time again to remind folks about scammers in the world.
A couple of folks clicked on a link PM'd to them by a scammer
recently and then entered their VAF password at the link given
(don't ever do that!!!).
The scammer then logged in here as them and made contact with some
other folks about WTB/FS listings. No money changed hands that
I can tell, but I had to lock down their accounts until I could
straighten things out.
In a classified listing, there should be a phone number,
or an N-number, a picture or an email address
in the listing....something you can Google yourself. Some
write their phone number out in words instead of numbers, or in a
mix of words and numbers (a good idea). The person's profile
should show info that isn't cryptic. 'PM me or click on
this link for more info' should be a
huge red flag! Don't click on links sent to
you in order to 'get more info'. A higher level of alert
should exist on your end when using the email or private message
For me, if a post doesn't have a phone number I pass.
"PM me" or "PM sent" is a deal breaker with me. I personally
never PM or email in regards to classifieds, but that's me. I
worked in I.T. security for a decade, so I'm suspicious by nature,
and know some of the risks. I choose to call them if they type
in a way to reach them and get a feel for their knowledge of the
item being offered over the phone. Your risk level might be
This is really, really important. Don't
EVER enter your VAF password
anywhere but here! If you do, you most likely just gave your
password to a scammer...
You can put someone's email address
listed in a classified in Google to see if it pops up on some spam
lists. Trust your gut. If it's a new account listing a
$5000 GPS as a first post....hesitate. Any low-count poster
with an item to sell should get more scrutiny from you.
Familiarize yourself more about Internet fraud, phishing, vishing
and online security and safety at:
https://www.usa.gov/online-safety (See how if you hover
your mouse over the link you can see the SAME address at the bottom
corner of your browser? Make sure that's always the case!)
I'm asking the mods to raise their squelch setting. If a mod
or I don't get a warm fuzzy or your classified is cryptic in nature,
it's gone, and your account locked until I can research. I'd
like to thank again the under-appreciated moderators on this site
who help me guard against this type thing when I'm away from the
keyboard. They delete suspicious posts that I miss when I'm
sleeping and stuff. We are lucky to have them around.
Registration Tip: If you're currently a lurker and
thinking about registering a forums account, the more detail you
provide in your profile (stuff I can verify with search engines),
the better chance you stand of me approving the registration.
If you leave fields blank and/or the info is cryptic, and the email
address is a long combination of random, expect to be declined.
I'm not asking for bank routing numbers, just something I can use to
verify you're a current/potential RV-builder/owner. Scammers
are sniffing around the periphery, and I need to shore up the walls
a bit. If you're not cool w/that, that's OK - you can already
read stuff as a lurker.
Sometimes the crazies get in, and I'm
sorry for that. We're trying as hard as we can, but there is
evil in the world (as you know).
New Sticky Threads in the Classified Section:
Status Report ...crabandy
Everything seems to fit pretty well and is ready for an
engine run, I just have to put the inside of the airplane
back together after the annual. I can't wait to wheel this
thing out and clean the hangar out from the past 6 months of
Garmin Mode S Transponder Software Upgrades at Oshkosh 2016
"We will once again provide free software upgrades for
Garmin Mode S transponders used in Experimental aircraft at
Just bring your GTX 23ES, GTX 330, or GTX 330ES transponder
in to us at the Garmin tent at Oshkosh and we will install
V8.02 software into your transponder while you wait. It only
takes about 2 minutes to accomplish this update.
After being located at the entrance to Hangar D for many
years, last year we moved to a new location across from the
EAA Welcome Center and the Ford tent. If you look at the
Airventure ground map, this is grid K13. From homebuilt
camping, just follow Knapp street South to Celebration Way
(the main entry street) and turn left
Sorry, but we are not equipped to perform sign-offs for
certified aircraft, so please only bring us transponders
that are installed in experimental aircraft.
Hope to see you at Oshkosh!"
Almost Done ...KHeidorn RV-14
July 15, 2016. 00:01 UTC. Issue No. 4,159.
Site Scheduled Maintenance 7/16/16 11pm CT - 7/17/16 6am CT.
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend!
First Flight ...Joe Rainbolt
RV-6 Dressing up for the big dance / Smoke Oil Mod ...gbitzer
My RV-6 just had it’s 15th birthday and I was honored when Ken
Scott chose it as Miss February for the Van’s 2016 calendar.
Rosie’s post about the 30th Anniversary of the RV-6 event at OSH
struck a nerve and I knew it was time to tuck my 6 back in the
hangar for a few OSH improvements. I fly a fair amount of IFR and
rain is like sand paper at 200 mph. A new coat of paint was in
order. This also provided me a chance to make a few improvements.
Although I liked my original paint scheme I wanted to spice it up a
bit. Some type of checker board was the answer. Steve Melton’s posts
on his paint project encouraged me to take on the painting project
myself. Although I had repainted the wheel pants and cowling over
the years this was my first attempt to paint the entire plane
unassisted. Using a PPG base coat / clear coat system made the
process longer but much easier in my mind. It also made more
complicated designs possible with my skill level. Unfortunately I
could not fit the entire plane in the booth.
Rocky Mountain Renegades Airshow Team 2016 video ...bobmarkert
During this years off-season the Rocky Mountain Renegades have
burned copious quantities of 100LL and are now in possession of FAA
SAC and Formation SAC cards (Statement of Aerobatic Competency). We
have upgraded our show to add more solo aerobatics and formation
aerobatics. We also changed our name from the Rocky Mountain
Renegades Formation Team to the Rocky Mountain Renegades Airshow
Team. Here is a link to our 2016 promo video and our updated
website..... I hope you enjoy it.
Long Windy story ...Caveman
Dan Horton posted a great RV travel experience that he had
recently and he mentioned landing in the wind in Oklahoma. I didn't
want to induce thread drift so I'm starting a new thread on fighting
the wind and invite you to share your experience.
I've attended two general aviation fly-in events at Vance Air force
Base in Enid, Ok. At one of them one of the officers made a
statement that Vance has the reputation for putting out the best
crosswind pilot's in the USAF due to the strong crosswinds in the
area. I didn't think too much about it then because the wind is a
fact of life out here on the great plains and frankly we natives
don't even mention it unless the wind is blowing 30 mph or more (or
more likely if it is down to 5mph or less). After all they didn't
surround our small town with all those wind generators for no
I work at an airport West of Enid and transient pilots and their
passengers often comment on how windy it is and we usually come back
with "this ain't nothing". I could tell some stories about trying to
pop helium balloons with the prop during some local fly-in events
but I'll save those for another time.
Recently, I have to admit that Oklahoma has been dethroned as the
wind capital of the contiguous U.S. Here's my story. This took place
a few months back. I sent this story via e-mail to my OKie RV
buddies when one of them mentioned he had installed a parking brake
during his condition inspection.
A couple of them suggested I repost it here on VAF. I was reluctant
Guardian Avionics Introduces New Line of USB Power Solutions for GA
July 14, 2016. 00:01 UTC. Issue No. 4,158.
Quick Western Tour Trip Write-up ...DanH in Mike Starkey's
My RV6 story ...sjhurlbut
As we all know, it is a special time for RV6 (and other RV)
owners and fliers with the 30th Anniversary on the horizon - Oshkosh
My interest in the RV6 began in 1999 while reading an issue of
Kitplanes magazine. At the time, I was posted for work in Comox, BC.
In the Kitplanes magazine I came upon a Van’s Aircraft advertisement
for "homebuilt" airplanes. I was stunned to see how with one's own
hands a plane could be crafted and enjoyed. This set in progress a
series of events which lead me to become a proud owner of a
As I'm sure many other homebuilt owners can appreciate, it is the
journey of the build which infuses pride in the outcome and for me
it started in 1999. I had saved enough money to purchase the RV6
tail kit but clearly had not thought up a plan on where to start the
construction. In typical plane-builder obsessed fashion I set out to
put this kit together in my dorm room. Progress was being made and
with only a few complaints of fellow occupants regarding the skin
dimpling process and paint fumes. I was as happy as a pig in you-
know-what. Then Van’s introduced the RV7 and the ease of that build
enticed me to purchase it. I needed to sell the RV6 in order to
proceed with the RV7A. This RV7A kit made a trip in a moving truck
in boxes labeled "hobby equipment" a full 4800 kilometres to meet me
at my new posting in Kingston, Ontario. I set a goal to complete the
RV7A before December 17th, 2003 so that I could honor the 100th year
Anniversary of the Wright Brothers. I met my goal and completed a
twenty minute flight in C-FZQX with a giant RV grin. I was hooked. I
was hooked on building RVs. I bought myself another kit - 71629 and
sold the first RV7A. Desperate to be airborne again I completed the
kit in 2 years. To honour my dear sister Tammy who passed away at
age 31 from complications following a heart and dual lung transplant
in her battle against Cystic Fibrosis, this one was given the
RV10 Daytrip to Wisconsin Dells ...NovaBandit
I'm trying something new (for us at least!) and I put together a
"Flight Log" video of our trip. We're still figuring out what works
well in these videos, format, things that should be
longer/shorter... and we'd love some feedback about what you all
Thoughts on teamwork in the shop (or how to equip your partner for
So I'm currently in the midst of doing all the riveting of my
fuselage canoe. I managed to shoot a large proportion of the rivets
by myself, which kind of reflects how I've worked on most of the
project - I do stuff solo whenever possible.
Fortunately for me, my lovely partner also flies and is interested
in the build, so she's a very willing helper. Among other work, we
shot all of the top wing skin rivets together - me shooting, her
bucking. It was tedious at times (pretty much the running story of
wing building), but we got through it pretty painlessly.
When it came time to flip the canoe over and get back to team
riveting, I decided to switch roles - rather than asking her to
crawl under the canoe and perform all the contortions, I let her
stand outside and run the rivet gun. We made steady but slow
progress, but she had a hard time controlling the rivet gun, and so
numerous rivets got overdriven and had to be replaced. I was
frustrated because I felt like she wasn't concentrating on doing the
job right, and she was frustrated because, well, she wanted to help
and it wasn't going well, and of course she could sense my
We crutched along like this for several short sessions, and I
thought seriously about just asking someone else to come help, but
when I sat down and thought about it, I was asking a lot of her. She
hadn't done a lot of work with the gun and wasn't going to have that
sort of innate feel of "that's about right," and here I was dropping
her in deep water, leaving her to shoot while I grunted instructions
through sheet aluminum. Throwing my hands up and kicking her out of
the garage was hardly helpful.
Thank you Liam at
Liam sent me an early prototype of their 'Freereel' to play
with....it came in the mail last night. The air hose that I've
love hate is finally tamed I think <g>.
I think I'm going to like this thing - it has already found a spot
on the Rubbermaid 'taco cart' that I roll around the hangar while
working on / cleaning / fiddling with plane and/or cars.
It helps calm my inner neat freak. Thanks again Liam!
And yes, I did notice the RV and RV personalized license plate in
the video <g>.
How to use video:
July 13, 2016. 00:01 UTC. Issue No. 4,157.
'Mothership' Cap Sighting...the new sticky
More info to follow re: these pics (I'm told)
Weekend in Napa, CA
I've been going to Napa to do wine tasting for over 30 years.
This time we finally made it up there by RV! It was an easy 3
hour flight straight up from San Diego.
Passenger choking while eating – Heimlich Maneuver in an RV ...RyanS
Nothing gets your attention like seeing your child struggle to
breathe. My son (7 years old) and I were on a 2 hour 10 minute cross
county recently in our RV-9A. About an hour into the flight, while
cruising with the autopilot on at about 8000’ AGL, he told me he was
hungry. I remembered a protein bar I had packed. I pulled it out and
instructed him to break off “pea-sized” pieces and eat them. What
could go wrong?
A couple minutes later, I looked over and saw a distressed face
looking slightly downward towards his knees. I asked, “Are you OK?”
He looked at me, very frightened and wiggled his head. “Can you
breathe?!” He shook his head side-to-side.
I immediately unhooked his seatbelt and pulled him onto my lap. I
gave a quick thrust to his abdomen and then heard him speak. It was
the most relieving words ever, “Dad, I don’t have my seatbelt on!”
We were both very thankful this event turned out the way it did.
Reflecting back, I’m constantly monitoring my position on ForeFlight,
so I knew the nearest airport. But, here are a few other thoughts I
took away from that flight:
1. NO EATING IN THE AIRPLANE. EVER. Not even a bite. If we’re
hungry, we’ll land.
2. Know the quickest safe way to get your airplane on the ground,
without compounding the problem.
3. Keep on a radio frequency that can best help you in an emergency.
If it’s an option, consider keeping 121.5 dialed in on your #2
Lobster Fly-in T-Shirts ...Dvalcik
"2nd annual Lobster fly-in (Sept 17). ....."
Status Report Pics ...crabandy
RV10 Project - Scotland...jamcgee1978
After ordering my kit in March, and turning what was a 2 car
garage into my workshop Im finally picking the kit up tomorrow. Long
journey from VANS HQ via New York then shipped to the UK and
hopefully in the workshop come Thursday!!!! Too say im excited and
raring to crack on is an understatement...more to follow soon.
RV-8/8A Builder/Flyer/Wannabe Meeting Proposal ...Kevin Horton
Our annual pilgrimage to Oshkosh is not far away, so its time to
sort out the usual RV-8/8A builder/flyer/wannabe meeting. Looking at
the forum schedules, and trying to avoid presentations with
significant interest to typical RV builders, Tuesday at 10:00 looks
promising. I propose our traditional meeting place at the east end
of the Theatre in the Woods - i.e. the end towards the flight line.
I decided to avoid Monday, as many folks would be running around
talking to vendors, trolling through the Sea of RVs, or whatever
else their number one OSH priority is. Many people start leaving
after Tuesday, so Wednesday or later is less desirable. That leaves
July 12, 2016. 00:01 UTC. Issue No. 4,157.
POTUS TFR Dallas today (info).
Heads up. From July 12, 2016 at 1630 UTC (July 12, 2016 at 1130
CDT). To July 12, 2016 at 2145 UTC (July 12, 2016 at 1645 CDT)
RV-14 51% FAA NKET EVAL
"On June 29th, 2016, the FAA National Kit Evaluation Team
officially approved the construction of the RV-14 and RV-14A kit
airplanes as compliant to the experimental aircraft kit "51% Rule."
Here at Van's Aircraft, 49% goes a long way.
We laid out every component of the RV-14, from Quickbuild to slow
build, from taildragger to tri-gear, from spinner to tail light,
with an philosophy that says 'anybody can do this', and invited the
FAA to come take a look."
Phase 1 Complete ...Greg Niehues
"I'm out of Phase I now, and I'm not calling it "done" yet until
it's painted, but my project has turned out to be every bit as
satisfying as I had hoped, and then some! 8 years and 1,985 actual
shop hours to current status, with maybe another 10-15 hours or so
for touch-ups and tweaks, so we'll call it an even 2,000 hours.
All those hours spent in the freezing cold while driving rivets, all
those hours in the 100 degree heats dripping sweat while driving
rivets, I kept telling myself it would be worth it someday - and I
was right! It's SOOOOO worth it, keep going guys!
I routinely cruise in the mid-upper teens on any trip over 100 miles
now, because it's so easy to get there. I climb at 1000/min at full
power even at max gross in hot west Texas ground temps, and
yesterday I was still showing 700/min leveling off at 16,500. Solo
with light fuel load the Vy climbout deck angle is astonishing! I
can flight plan 150ktas on 6.5-7.0 gallons per hour at that altitude
and hit my numbers every time. This magic carpet ride is awesome!"
-14 Status Report ...control
Left tank almost done...
N.TX Hangar For Rent (52F) ...Sid Mayeux
I'm possibly moving to another hangar, and need to find a renter
to take my place in my current T. It's a great T (largest on the
airport), excellent landlord and awesome hangar neighbors.
Why moving? This hangar and its taxiway are really best suited for
taildraggers. My 7A kicks up pebbles on the taxiway, wearing away at
my prop. The uphill lip at the mouth of the hangar really is better
suited for a tail-dragging winch.
I really love this hangar, but it's just not the right solution for
I've been paying $375/mo plus about $35 monthly electric bill, but
you'll have to work out details with the owner. 110 and 220 AC
installed, and has a restroom at the end of the row.
Please PM me if you're interested.
Big Tire RV-4 ...gmrv4
CASA Final Engineering Report of Jabiru Engines ...TomVal
RV-14 Status Report ...Marvin McGraw
This is my status. Wings went on last week. Should be flying in a
few months, hopefully!
From the mothership...
My Interior Paint ...TimO -14A
Eagle's Nest Projects - Kenosha News / Nicole
Jackson, RV-12 Builder-Student Pilot
July 11, 2016. 00:01 UTC. Issue No. 4,156.
(Gary Platner) "Leaving Bartlesville, OK with my 95 year
old mom to take her to spend a week with her two sisters in
Congratulations to Ken Scott! (thread) ...enjoying
(from the mothership
FB page) Thursday (7/7/16) was a significant day at Van's as
long-time (27 years) employee Ken Scott headed into retirement!
Grillmeister Rob fired up the new company BBQ, and the assembled
company celebrated Ken's new adventure over lunch.
Ken is well-known to many RV builders, having edited the RVator
newsletter, presented numerous RV seminars, taught RV building
classes, flown thousands of demo flights, and answered numberless
questions in the course of his storied career at Van's.
Ken has built an RV-6, an RV-12, the KK-1 one-off design and is now
building a Bearhawk with two neighbors at his airpark home, situated
only a couple of minutes from KUAO as the RV-6 flies. So we
anticipate seeing him around to buy parts. You will also continue to
see his articles in the aviation press, sharing his knowledge with
the broader aviation audience.
Everyone at Van's wishes Ken and his wife Cami (the Violinist) all
the best for their future, and says thanks for all the contributions
Ken made to the RV community!
More RV spotted in Russia ...Vlad
Two more RV-10 are in advanced finishing stages at Cetus facility
nr Moscow, Russia. No more information available at the moment only
satellite images <g>.
David Paule Status Report ...3B
With the longerons trimmed down and smoothed and deburred, it was
time to bend them. I was looking forward to this, because David Howe
had loaned me a tool he'd made for the job.
Bill McLean cleans up at aerobatic competition
(Ron Schreck) Against a field of twelve competitors, Bill
McLean easily took home first place in the Sportsman category at the
Bear Creek Bash IAC competition in Rome, Georgia this past weekend.
The field included several Extras and Pitts flown by some of the
best aerobatic pilots in the region and Bill easily topped them all
in his RV-4 with an overall score of over 84%. Well done, Bill.
-12 Canopy Additional Hold Mod ...Scott Millhouse
Grass Pics and More ...Vlad
July 8, 2016. 00:01 UTC. Issue No. 4,155.
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend.
1st Journey in Bella--Telluride and Bluegrass! ...Guy Prevost
After a couple of weeks of test flying after the big system and
panel rework [ed. Discussed below in
today's edition. dr] it was time for the first
family trip in Bella—the new family RV-10.
RV-14 Common Fuselage Wiring Harness ...thread
Van's has released the WH-00125 Common Fuselage Wiring Harness
for the RV-14.
The drawings for this harness are also available on the Van's
Aircraft Downloads Website in DWG form. These may be used as an
electrical systems overview for the standard wiring harnesses
installed in the RV-14 wing and tailcone.
The harness itself provides a bridge between the wing and fuselage
wiring harnesses, and is designed to provide a good starting point
towards interfacing with AFS, Dynon or Garmin EFIS systems, with
enough wire to reach behind the RV-14 sub-panel.
Please see the updated RV-14 Avionics Letter for more information
From the mothership ...press release
Taking the extreme quickbuild route ...Guy Prevost
As detailed in
this post, our growing family led to us wanting an RV-10. We
couldn’t justify both the 8 and a 10, so a trade was made. That
said, I’m a builder at heart, I’m very picky about systems, and I
still wanted to get my hands dirty. We flew N649BG, now named
“Bella” for about 3 months while we discovered what we did and
didn’t like. We then set about an intense 3 month period to make it
In general, the airframe was in great shape. The panel, although
seemingly well-equipped was really basic vfr with the addition of a
GNS530W. There were no backups, no heated pitot, and the system was
only marginally integrated. The grounding system was old-school—In
fact basic ground fixes increased ATIS reception from 13nm to 50nm
during the first week of flying. The second com radio was 28V with
an adapter, the transponder got altitude data from an out-of-spec
ameri-king encoder even though it was sitting right next to an EFIS.
Traffic data from the GTX-330 went to nothing, etc. I should point
out, that I determined pretty much all of this in my extensive
pre-buy. This airplane was just what I wanted—my own RV-10 (meaning
systems done by me) in about 10% of the time of building from
scratch. The one item I didn’t catch was that the plane had very
leaky tanks. More on that later.
RV-7 Update ...slngsht
Progress on horizontal stabilizer. And a couple of questions -
hopefully not redo problems... Current state of things as of
Hallelujah! My canopy fits! ...Cliff
A belated thanks to all who responded to my previous posts on an
After several months of frustration in working with the plexi - that
turns out was faulty, Vans graciously supplied a replacement.
After the initial trimming, it fit better than the first one ever
did! I had it bonded in place with Sika 295 UV within the week.
The back window is also in - a relatively simple installation with 2
A question - has anyone used the 295 UV as the plexi to 702 fairing?
- how was it to sand?
- have there been any issues with paint cracking, etc.?
- is there anything else I should be aware of?
N40 OSH Camping Update ...Jeff Point
July 7, 2016. 00:01 UTC. Issue No. 4,154.
Great Moments in Formation Flying ...Rob Erdos
I did a brief formation ferry flight recently with a friend who
owns a Cessna Cardinal. He departed first and then I rejoined and
slid into echelon. I've never seen anything funnier than
the look on his face when he glanced over at our RV-6:
I'd have worn the pug mask myself, but the eye holes are a bit
small for formation. Many thanks to my wife, Debbie, for being a
Flying into OSH- Required Reading ...Jeff Point
the big show just a few weeks away, many of you are no doubt already
making plans to attend. For many, it will be your first trip. I
encourage everyone who feels up to the task to do it- you can’t beat
the feeling of accomplishment that comes from successfully arriving
at the world’s busiest airport in an airplane you built yourself.
That said, I have compiled a list of required reading materials.
Anyone flying in for the first or twentieth time should take the
time to read all of them. You’ll no doubt learn something, and it
will make the experience better for you, and for everyone else at
the same time.
Skin discoloration / corrosion ...YellowJacket RV9
Forgive my ignorance about types of corrosion, but now that my 9A
has some hours under her belt, I am starting to notice some areas on
the skin that I assume are corrosion of some sort. Any advice as to
best way to tackle these spots?
I plan to fly unpainted for a while, and while I'm not looking
for a show quality shine, I'd like a non-splotchy appearance. I
played around with some Diamond Shine today that was recommended by
a hangar neighbor, and also ordered some Purple Polish. The Diamond
Shine works very well on most of the skin but did little to remove
the blotches shown above. I assume I need a rougher compound like
one of the Nuvite products, but not sure what grade may be best.
I really didn't want to get sucked into polishing, and the few
minutes I spent doing it today weren't that fun, and yet, I wanted
to keep doing it for some reason...
Max Fuel Flow on Takeoff/Climb ...DanH reply
The excess fuel is not cooling anything. It is merely lowering
combustion temperature, and delaying peak pressure, much like
Lycoming data lists what they consider to be the minimum fuel
flow for rated power, which includes a detonation margin. Power
output is fairly flat in the region richer than optimum, so it is
possible to run richer without huge power loss. Setting up the fuel
control to be richer than the minimum required for rated power adds
additional detonation margin. Recall that best power mixture is
about 100F ROP, and we like to see the fuel control set up for 200
ROP at full rich, maybe 250. Some like it even richer, but that's
just an expensive way to make less power.
BSFC (pounds of fuel per HP per hour) is a fine guide to fuel flow,
IF you know power output with some accuracy. For example, my IO-390
manual says minimum fuel flow is 105 lbs at 210 HP, for a BSFC of
0.50. A 260 HP engine at 0.50 is 130 lbs per hour, or 130/6 = 21.66
GPH. The consensus 25.5 would be a BSFC of 0.588.
Here's a useful chart from the FAA dyno, an IO-540-K. Lots of
interesting things to observe, but in the context of this
discussion, note the BSFC and fuel flow at max power mixture; 245 HP
at 112 lbs per hour, for a BSFC of 0.46, or 18.6 GPH.
July 6, 2016. 00:01 UTC. Issue No. 4,153.
Another Pilots n Paws success. Skylar! ...scard
(disclaimer: this happened a few months ago) It was a
mission that came together at the very last minute. Tanya was
planning on flying from Corsicana to Austin on a Tuesday afternoon,
when a mission request came in that morning for a transport from
Corsicana to San Antonio. With San Antonio just an additional 45
minutes by air, she offered to make the flight that afternoon if the
arrangements could be made on such short notice.
Sure enough, the coordinator Jerry was able to make magic and locate
animal lovers at each end to make it work, and 8 hours later a
5-month old redbone coonhound was in the back of Tanya's plane.
Neither the pup nor Tanya knew it yet, but this would not be their
last flight together in the red and white RV-9A.
We had lost our 15-year old beagle a couple months earlier, and our
house was awfully quiet without some hound-induced chaos. The little
pup was such a sweetie, rode great in the plane, and turned out to
not have a mean bone in her body. It helped that all she wanted to
do was cuddle. That and her magnificent eye-makeup was all it took.
Tanya returned home in a bit of a daze saying "Wow, that was a
really great dog. That could have been the one..." Those comments
went on for a couple of days. The next weekend we went back to San
Antonio. The pup, now Skylar, was back in the red and white RV-9A en
route to Austin and her newly adopted home.
Pylon Racing in Portugal - RV class results ...Pete
Air Race Championship race 1 in Lisbon last weekend, results
Sport Class overall (match race & circuit race) results:
1st Javier Del Cid - RV-8 190.50 mph (IO-360, 180 hp, fixed
2nd Bob Ellis - RV-8 190.40 mph (IO-360, 180 hp, fixed pitch
3rd Stephen Hipwell - RV-7 177.21 mph (O-360, fixed pitch
4th James Stringer - RV-6 176.97 mph (O-320, ground
5th Peter Pengilly - RV-6A 175.01 mph (O-320, fixed pitch
Lap distance 2.661 miles (nominal), race distance 20.705 miles
Sport race final video
Match race (slalom) video to follow
Trip Report, Maintenance Issue and First Flight! ...Bruce Eicher
Snuck out of the valley Saturday under some lower overcast thru
our not so secret passage. (Columbia Gorge)
Prop Choice 72" vs 74" data point ...TimO -14A
While working on the nose fairing I remembered that I hadn't
actually measured my as-installed prop clearance. When picking out
my prop, I talked to Hartzell and pondered what to do about choosing
the 72" vs 74". I figured that with the IO-390 making a little more
power than the IO-360, the better choice may be the longer prop.
Hartzell felt that way too, when I called them. They also said that
the longer length gives more repair you can do to the tips should
you need to shorten or file it for nicks. Van's tended to lean from
what I gathered from talking to them to the 72", primarily for added
clearance. The price is the same either way.
It was a tough choice but I went with the 74" after they gave me the
factory demo prop clearance and I found it was more than the
clearance I have on my 80" RV-10 prop.
I just wanted to give the data point for my IO-390+74"
C2YR-1BFP/F7497 prop, installed on the "A" model RV-14. As
installed, it is just over 11.5" of ground clearance...close to
I can't say that it's the perfect prop for everyone. Taildraggers
may want a different one, perhaps someone wants to comment on that.
But for the RV14A, it sure seems like the 74" has no real down side.
I just wanted to post that in case there were others who sweat the
details before signing the order form, like I did.
Tailcam video of the July 4th fly-by at Geneva, Florida
It is the tradition that the Spruce Creek Gaggle Flight conduct a
fly-by at the 4th of July Parade at the Village of Geneva, Florida.
Following is a video taken from a GoPro camera mounted at the tail
tiedown point of my RV9A.
The rest of the story ...Brantel
A couple weeks ago I started a thread related to the GA35 antenna
and what looked like the second failure of the same on my airplane.
Due to my history with a prior GA35 antenna failure and the fact
that mine had ran for 4 years under the cowl of my RV7, I
incorrectly assumed that the heat had finally killed my second
I have to tell you that this was a wrong assumption worth just north
Turns out after installing a third new GA35 antenna, new coax cable
and connectors, and even trying a forth WAAS enabled antenna of a
different brand/model, it was determined that there was absolutely
nothing wrong with the second antenna that I totally destroyed just
to see how it was made inside....
419 'Moose' Squadron reunion ...flyboy1963
Some cousins and friends in the RCAF are attending the 75th
anniversary re-union of the 419 Squadron, which operated Lancasters,
Halifax and Wellingtons in the big one. The squadrons first
commander was from Kamloops BC, & for the anniversary, they decided
to paint up some Hawk jet trainers ( now at the reformed 419 group
at Cold Lake AB) in the original colours and insignia. Sadly the
Mynarski Lanc is based at the CWH in Ontario, and it's a bit of a
stretch to bring it here.
Originally I though I'd just do some serious drinkin' in honour of
our boys, but the more we talked (always dangerous!) the family
pilots decided that it would be cool to do up the RV in homage to
the squadron. Permission was obtained, and a spot on the ramp may be
available should the current scummy weather permit a cross-country
to YKA. ( sorry guys, didn't have time to do the full camo!)
The Kid I Know ...Vlad
Year 2009. Florida. I am volunteering at S-n-F with sheet metal
workshop. My RV is half done. My good buddy Rich Denton is having a
party at his camper. He is 40. Very few pay attention to this kid.
July 5, 2016. 00:01 UTC. Issue No. 4,152.
Good morning and I hope you had a nice 4th of July
weekend! I'm hoping a cartoon of me in a unicorn costume sporting
rainbow rocket assist might get the attention of those who read
regularly but have yet to donate in 2016. The year is now
50% over and the on-the-honor-system
donations are running about 38% of
the 2013 total. Or about 4% of
the registered forum accounts. Around $17,200 after taxes from
987 wonderful people. All the
numbers and names updated HERE
as of Jul 2, 2016 16:30CDT.
Please consider donating if you are a regular reader - it usually means the
difference between our family making or loosing money on this small
business at year's end (it's crazy expensive to run - I'll spend much more than
the donations coming in on servers and bandwidth).
Just pay if you use it...that's all I'm asking. Sometime during the
Don't make me get out the tutu. Nobody wants to see that - it can't
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Doug (and Susie and Audrey and Tate)
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First Flight ...The Swede
Recently got the paperwork from local EAA and Transport Agency as
well as the radio license after approved inspection of EAA/TA
First flight took place june 30th at local airport Visby, Gotland (ESSV)
and lasted 41 minutes. Initially had a somewhat hard time to
follow ATC maximum altitude instructions, this is a quick litte
airplane and things happens much faster than in a PA-22 or TB10
Engine worked satisfactory, maybe fuel pressure is a bit on the high
side. Have to check with a pressure gauge and compare with EFIS/EMS.
EFIS airspeed differed some from steam ASI at higher speeds, not
sure why yet?
The airplane is also a little heavy on the left wing, to be sorted
Overall very happy to have come to this phase of the project and I'm
really looking forward to investigate behaviour and characteristics
at flight trials.
Proud Moment for Our Family ...TomVal
Our son, Jeff, took command of the 93rd Air Ground Operations
Wing at Moody AFB on Tuesday. After five tours in the F-16 and
numerous assignments overseas, Jeff is now finally based closest to
our home (in Charleston) during his past 22 years of service. We are
planning to take advantage of this during the next two years of his
assignment and spend more time in Charleston.
As an aging parent, I have had limited time to share our love of
flight with our son. We have shared one weekend of flying when I
owned a Yak-52, Jeff had one flight in my RV8, and after four
years of ownership, Jeff has not flown in my RV12. As I see
my flying years beginning to fade away, I am looking forward to
making up for lost time with our son.
5.5 States in a weekend ...Pete Howell Pictures
My new 7A ...McPilot
Just took delivery today. Thanks to Tom Berge for pre purchase
help and Michael Karatsonyi for getting the plane through customs
and ferry pilot!
9th Condition Inspection ...Bill R.
This year's Condition inspection was a big one. It took two
months to complete and I'm still waiting for some parts to arrive
but the plane is airworthy and flying again.
A couple of things of note:
I have Dynon Capacitance fuel senders and LOVE them. They are very
accurate, regardless of how little fuel is in the tanks. For two
years I have been struggling with my right sender. It would work
fine and then the level would drop to zero, come back up again after
some time and then maybe start dropping again and then come up. It
was intermittent and random as to how long it would stay at zero or
at the correct level (It never over reported the fuel in the tank.).
I thought for sure it was a bad connection so over the past two
years I rewired the thing, twice! Each time, on local flights it
worked fine. So I thought I had it fixed. Then on longer flights it
would drop out again.
It finally dawned on me that the sending unit on the tank might be
bad so I ordered a replacement and installed it.
Panel Status ...Sam Bovington
I mounted instruments for the first time today. I have a mix of
old used instruments, and room for the Garmin G5 that I have on
order and a Garmin GDU 370 if I can find a good used one. The area
below the GDU 370 cutout will be filled by a used GTX 327 and a
simple GTX 200.
NORDO into class D ...C. Brenden
Had a radio failure the other day in a twin I've been receiving
some training in. We were VFR but I was under the hood flying an ILS
approach to a class D controlled airport. When approach switched us
over to tower freq we were unable to get the tower to respond to our
calls. We were still hearing them broadcast to other aircraft - but
they did not respond to us. My instructor advised to break off the
approach, remove the hood, and we would trouble shoot the situation.
We decided I would continue to fly the plane and he would try to get
the radios working. We tried different freqs (approach and tower),
different headsets and jacks, and even broadcast to see if any
planes would respond. We then squawked 7600 and orbited north of the
class d for a few minutes. We then entered the traffic pattern while
looking for a light from the tower. None. On base we did hear tower
issue us clearance to land. I did speak with the tower on the
telephone afterwards. No problems but I did fill out a NASA report
just in case.
RV-12 Canopy Incident...video and pics
[ed. VERY very windy in DFW on the 3rd,
and Georgetown is only about three hours south by car (trees are
moving pretty good in the vid). Glad nobody hurt! dr]
Test Engine Run.....at home ...bret video
My RV-4 Learns an F-4 Trick ...Vac
The McDonnell F-4 had a nifty, aural AOA system that allowed you
to hear the angle of attack when operating around L/Dmax and
slower…it had a “solid tone” that indicated when you were ON SPEED,
or flying optimum AOA, let you know when you were slow and really
got your attention when you were approaching a stall. ON SPEED was
especially helpful during approach and landing as well as
maneuvering flight; and the logic allowed the pilot to make fine
corrections between slightly slow, ON SPEED and slightly fast when
desired. The F-4 didn’t have the greatest handling characteristics,
and the system helped the pilot avoid “pulling on the pole” too hard
and making bad things happen. I’ve been privileged to have flown
lots of airplanes, including fighters and jumbo jets; and I’ve found
the F-4 aural AOA system to be the best I’ve used in any airplane.
Recently, I met a couple of smart engineers and fellow RV'ers that
have helped to build a prototype system that allows me to program
the F-4 AOA tone logic for use in my RV-4 to demonstrate the concept
to folks that might not be familiar with it. The “tone generator” is
actually a small computer that processes the basic serial output
message from my Dynon DY-10A, which includes AOA information from a
standard Dynon AOA pitot tube I recently retro-fitted to the
airplane. The tone is pumped into the intercom system and the volume
is pilot-adjustable (except for the slow tone and stall warning). In
the demonstration videos, the camera is receiving raw audio output
and it’s much louder than what I’m hearing in the headset; and, to
be clear, this is not the Dynon programmable AOA tone.
Vlad's June Grass Strip Pictures
July 4, 2016.
00:01 UTC. Issue No. 4,151.
IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one
people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them
with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the
separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of
Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of
mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel
them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created
equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain
unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the
pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are
instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of
the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes
destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or
to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its
foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such
form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and
Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long
established should not be changed for light and transient causes;
and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more
disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right
themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But
when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the
same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute
Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such
Government, and to provide new Guards for their future
security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies;
and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their
former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of
Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all
having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny
over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid
He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and
necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and
pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till
his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has
utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large
districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the
right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable
to them and formidable to tyrants only.
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual,
uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public
Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance
with his measures.
He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing
with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to
cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers,
incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large
for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed
to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions
He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States;
for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of
Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their
migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new
Appropriations of Lands.
He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his
Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.
He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure
of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither
swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their
He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without
the Consent of our legislatures.
He has affected to render the Military independent of and
superior to the Civil power.
He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction
foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws;
giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any
Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended
For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring
Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and
enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example
and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws,
and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves
invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his
Protection and waging War against us.
He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns,
and destroyed the lives of our people.
He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign
Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and
tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy
scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally
unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high
Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the
executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall
themselves by their Hands.
He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has
endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the
merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an
undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.
In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for
Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been
answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus
marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the
ruler of a free people.
Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our Brittish brethren.
We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their
legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have
reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement
here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and
we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow
these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections
and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice
and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the
necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold
the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.
We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of
America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme
Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the
Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies,
solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of
Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are
Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all
political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is
and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent
States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract
Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things
which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of
this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine
Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes
and our sacred Honor.
The 56 signatures on the Declaration appear in the positions
Thomas Heyward, Jr.
Thomas Lynch, Jr.
Charles Carroll of Carrollton
Richard Henry Lee
Thomas Nelson, Jr.
Francis Lightfoot Lee
Robert Treat Paine
July 1, 2016.
00:01 UTC. Issue No. 4,150.
Yesterday 0730 local I flew the RV-6 direct 52F -> GLE over the top of
Denton's class D to Gainesville, TX on a fuel run ($3.35). Denton
sounded busy on the radio, so I checked in as a courtesy just to let 'em
know I was listening and able to move if they needed me to. Lotsa
targets in the early morning before the temps get unbearable.
On the way back, for button and workflow practice, I checked in with DTO
again (same guy) 5nm north of
2,500' on the inbound course and asked for the practice ILS 18 to missed
with a straight out exit to 52F. If he said 'no' I'd just climb
200' and go over the top again. He was still clobbered, but worked
me in fine (pic right). Back 52F shortly thereafter with mostly
full tanks and on the home computer working and taking care of a
has-stomach-bug wife by 0930. Logged .6hrs, reacquainted the brain
with some IFR buttonology and got some time off the surface for mental
health. Win win win.
Reminder: Mothership closed Monday ("Phone, Fax, e-mail and Web Orders
placed after 12PM noon (Pacific Time) on Friday, July 1st will be
processed on Tuesday July 5th"). I'm taking the day off as
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled
July Wallpaper Calendar...Adam Burch photo
1st Flight - RV-12 kit #1000 ...Tony_T
June 15th, N212EX made it's maiden flight at Lopez Island,
Washington. Builder Dick Bangsund was at the controls with his CFI
along in the right seat. Pilot comments "beautiful airplane, very
sensitive on the controls compared to my C182...love this
airplane...worth every minute I spent building it", Dick.
North Fox PIREP ...aturner
I flew up to North Fox Island with the boys last weekend and had
a great time. continue
Congrats are in Order for our RV Friend ...you know him as 'jclark'
in the forums.
New vinyl graphic sticker placards available
Charity Cap Sighting ...turbo
fmi: about the
Totally Unrelated...my daughter's summer nuclear chemistry
school schedule for today
...I have no idea where she got the brain she has.