My buddy Jim Pappas w/Billy Gibbons of ZZ Top on the
jumbotron at the Coca Cola 600 in Charlotte. Nice shirt!
Loss of records
casualties of the fire that leveled my home on May 13 were
my pilot logs and aircraft maintenance logs for airframe,
engine and prop. Thankfully my medical, pilot cert and
airworthiness docs were in the plane and therefore
What does an owner do when all his original and backup
photocopies of maintenance logs are lost like this? Besides
start over today with new ones...
I am at a loss. In more ways than one, I guess.
Do I have enough screens?
Here is my AFS4500 on center with A210 and GTX327 on
left. Barely enough space to put lock nuts on the rack
mounting and still get inside the panel header in the cabin.
The Skyview is about 2" wider so unlikely you could keep
APRS Art ...Vlad
...in remembrance of
Skin to longeron to F-711 rivet (7A)
New question. Drilling skin to longeron holes and found
one virtually impossible to set. How did you all set
that one rivet on each side? It's going to be right up
against the F-711D angle.
Laying out the stripes so I can paint this weekend.
First flight ...PeteP 9A
Harold flew west but his tail remained with me ...Saber25
This summer marks a thirty year anniversary of my RV4 and
the memory of the remarkable man that introduced me to an
equally remarkable plane.
In 1985 while returning from a training mission in south
western Idaho for the National Guard, I flew over a small
dirt strip adjacent to a work shop and spotted a shiny
aluminum airplane. At 500agl I identified it as an RV4
having seen pictures of the airplane in Sport Aviation. I
determined the position of this location on my map and the
following day my wife and I rode the motorcycle to Murphy
Idaho for a closer look.
Out in the desert country near the Snake River, we met
Harold and his wife who helped build what was then the first
RV4 in Idaho. After a brief introduction and explaining my
interest in his plane, we walked down to the shop to get a
closer look. Well, for me it was love at first sight. Years
earlier in the 70’s I had planned on building the T-18 which
was then considered the hot rod model for homebuilts, but
with intervening time the RV4 had outpaced the T-18 in every
performance category and also looked far sleeker. The seed
Harold had an interesting background. He could build
anything and that included homesteading and building a ranch
out of raw land in Idaho to include building the rig to
drill his water well. He logged a plot of forest land he
owned in the mountains and ended his career working as a
lineman for a telephone company. Not one to sit around he
decided at age 64 to build an airplane. He ran a tractor up
and down his land to build a strip of sorts with a fence at
each end of this hockey stick shaped runway measuring
1800ft. Adjacent to the runway he built a workshop and
proceeded shortly thereafter with the RV4. In those days,
basic hand tools for building were acquired and those that
were not available on the market would be hand fabricated.
Flying with my Son on Memorial Day - Bar Harbor ...Dvalcik
"Done....Part II" ...cactuspilot
Well, here she is....post paint shake-out flight...
During the paint down period I:
1) Installed the new vernier throttle and springs
2) R/R new dimpled carb floats
3) Re-did panel with carbon fiber overlay and installed new
autopilot panel and sky view touch on right side
4) Did 1st oil change (figured might as well)
5) Re-checked a lot of things (angle and torque on prop,
6) Ended up painting my own wheel pants as my painter got
evicted and subsequently disappeared....(long story)...which
went pretty good till the second coat of clear over the
acryglo metallics....got a lot of orange peel....
colors are SW jetglo matterhorn white, black velvet metallic
and copper gold metallic acryglo (with clear on top)
7) Updated everything to 12.2 (Van's...)
session ...Bob Collins
Have I mentioned how beautiful polished aluminum can be
Stage IV Colon Cancer & Building an RV-8 ...CSJohnson
After many years of dreaming, turning a garage into an
airplane factory, I started my RV-8 build on March 31, 2015.
Within two weeks I started experiencing abdominal cramps,
being unconcerned until one day they were stronger than
previous and persistent throughout the day.
X-rays at an urgent care center suggested a bowel blockage
and trip to the ER. More x-rays and a CT scan but the ER
doctors couldn't pinpoint the issue. I was admitted for
further evaluation. Three days later a GI doctor called my
room from his home at 11:30PM saying, "Something is
definitely wrong." A colonoscopy was performed and a
cancerous tumor discovered.
Surgery to remove the tumor, a section of the colon, an
appendectomy, remove lymph nodes, and liver biopsy was
performed. Several infections developed and I remained in
the hospital for four weeks with chest tubes and another
fluid drain (OUCH!), followed by three weeks of home
infusion with three self-administered antibiotic IVs each
day (via a PICC line; I'm hooked up as I type.) Pathology
results confirmed colon cancer having spread to all nearby
lymph nodes and a small liver lesion. Having metastasized to
distant organs I was diagnosed as Stage IV.
RV-7 Mods Added ...mantry
Cross Country Relocation...Radar Required! ...drdestructo
FOR SALE: FLYING RV-9A
...and THANK YOU!!! to
those who help keep this American, 1-family small business
741 donations this year so far
(out of 20,692
registered forum accounts - 3.5%).
- Year is
No Memorial Day edition today. Done out of solemn respect for those American
Warriors who sacrificed everything for my family's way of life.
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend.
Note: Forums might get slow for an hour around lunch Central time zone
Troubleshooting and apologies.
Click to enlarge.
Flooded Denton Creek vs full Lake
.2hr RV-6 hop 5/21.
iPad 'Micro' ...Larry Pardue thoughts
I am one of those guys that tends to like the Apple stuff but it
has never worked out that well for me in the cockpit. The iPad is
way too big as is the iPad Mini and the iPhone is way too small. I
have used the iPad Mini some in the cockpit, mostly on a kneeboard,
and had screen visibility problems and didn't like the fact of
always having to remember to bring it and then there is worrying
about the state of charge.
The other day I installed a mount in my RV-6 for the iPhone 6 that I
own. It showed promise. Still too small but the more vertical angle
seemed to make the screen much more visible.
AVERY TOOLS MEMORIAL DAY SALE
We have over 100 new tungsten
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prices. If you ever wanted a tungsten bar, or are ready to add
another to your tool box now is the time to buy. Also special
discount prices on clecos and most other items on our website. Visit
to see what is on sale. The Avery family wishes all our friends and
customers a safe and happy Memorial Day weekend.
Bob & Judy Avery
Skin scratches and imperfections
So I'm working on the elevators on my -10 and noticed that one of
the skins is fairly scratched up just due to man handling on my
part, placing it on surfaces it shouldn't have been.. back rivet
plate with rough edges..etc.. all the things.
Medical issue ...Smilin' Jack
In an effort to help other RV owners and in my case keep my
Corporate flying job I have decided to share the last 6 month issue
I developed an issue of a tachycardia about 180 BPM when I would eat
anything cold, Ice cream but it finally got to the point I could not
even eat anything out of the refrigerator with out my heart taking
off. The cardiologist had me wear a Holter monitor and they detected
AFIB in the last part of a a tachycardia episode. The episodes of
this happening were just days apart.
There were two options medicine to control the Tachycardia or an
In November 2014 I chose the ablation. I was now grounded until I
waited 6 months with no problems and pass th FAA Holter monitor and
It was during this time I upgraded my panel and installed the LED
Landing lights with the prospect of selling my RV.
I went through all the test A nuclear stress test, Echocardiograms
and a host of other test and could not get me in a fib but the
They tried on the operating table to give my heart to go into a fib
and could not do it even at 240 beats a minute for an hour so they
ablated the normal spots in the heart.
Three days later I was back in the emergency room with atrial
Flutter my heart rate was one 190 BPM and this time they got my
heart rate down with the caritizan mediation.
This repeated itself every 5 to 7 days over the next month I was
shocked back into rhythm or three times and was medicated back into
rhythm a few more times finally a decision was made to do another
ablation on December 4 since this was really taking a toll on me.
Now I am really concerned that I will not be flying again and have
told my close friends I guess it is over flying and offered the
plane to one of my friends who
said lets just wait and see. My Corporate flying job of 25 years is
also on the table.
The company stood with me, prayers were answered and on May 4,2015 I
was cleared by the FAA for my second class for a year.
I know others have been here before me. But you do not realize how
Life is and how we take things for granted. There are several on
this board that know the fears and prayers I went through just
hoping I would survive the two operations and the other 8 times I
was in ER in November.
There are procedures that can be done now and the FAA has guidelines
if those are successful that can get you back to flying.
I am grateful to be back to my corporate flying job! Playing my Sax
in Church and enjoying my RV with my wife who loves it as much as I
All is great now.. And yes my God still has a purpose for me!
Corporate Pilot CFI-AI
Job Opening - Avionics Technician ...Advanced Flight Systems
Vans will Be Closed on Memorial Day May 25th 2015
[ed. Those who support this site
financially are helping raise these two wonderful kids in a literal
way, so I like to give the readers the occasional 'status report'.
Here you go...and thank you for the help!!!!
Audrey's Grades at SMU
3.681 this term. She starts her junior year in the fall,
is working in the
Research Group lab all summer, and is third from left in the
pic at this
Our son played his 8th grade
final performance last night (he's opting out of band for the
9th). My parents bought the trumpet for me back in '76.
He'll pickle it for down the road....you never know!
Crystal Cooper photo of Rosie/Tuppergal (Andrew Brandt photo
(click to enlarge)
N302RM First Flight! ...Mike Hillger RV-7
I finally made my first flight in my RV-7 Friday. I
have logged 9 hours since. The flight went well other than
me being really nervous! I realized later, I had not flown a
plane solo in 2.5 years. Two squawks, CHT on #1 cylinder hit
400* before I got 800' in the air. I am working on getting
CHT's more manageable now. The second thing rattled me the
most, I added 20 deg of flaps and the plane yaw'd hard to
the left and my left rudder pedal came up against my left
foot! Needless to say I had to make the first landing with
no flaps. I later found out the left rudder cable was caught
under the nut on the flap control rod.
Back in the Saddle ...Ed Wischmeyer
It was seven months and seven days ago that I had spinal
fusion surgery, L1 - L5, a >>highly<< invasive surgery with
a long recovery time -- "full" recovery is maybe another six
months away. But I did fly the RV-8 today for the first time
since the surgery.
At the six month point post-surgery, I flew my trusty old
Cessna with an instructor buddy, and had no problems except
feeling strange during an unusual attitude recovery. A week
later, we flew 90 minutes of instrument practice.
A week after that, I flew the Cessna five days in a row from
the right seat (I'm an out of practice CFII), preparing to
check out the new owner of the Cessna. That all went quite
well, and a week later, the RV-9A showed up.
Being much more comfortable with right hand on the stick, I
flew the -9A from the right seat with the seller in the
left, and the two landings were just fine. I subsequently
flew the -9A four or five times, and those flights were safe
but definitely not pretty -- but that's another story. It
was surprising how much harder the -9A is to keep on
centerline than the Cessna, which had a steerable nosewheel.
Then a few days ago, I started up the -8 and taxied it a
little, just for a reacquaintance. This morning was the
first flight, light winds but tower accommodated my desires
to go directly into the wind. I was feeling good, looking
forward to the flight, and had an energetic, positive,
can-do attitude, not all of which have been present since I
started flying a month ago.
It felt great, and I'm glad I didn't sell the -8 before the
surgery. Thanks to all who suggested that I keep it. While
the flight wasn't up to my standards (i.e., **** near
perfect), the one takeoff and one landing (short flight,
just to keep things under control) were quite acceptable.
Now to finish the -9A panel upgrade and to get really,
really proficient in both planes.
Hangar Leak Fixed!
Rear Throttle ...Chuck Deerinck
Am I missing something obvious? I searched Google and VAF
to no avail. I'm looking for any information people might
have on this...
I got my DJM quadrants today. They look awesome!
Issue Online ...PDF
Crystal Cooper photo (Andrew Brandt photo ship)
Round and round she goes ...bobmarkert
This is not a picture of a NASCAR race. It’s what
breaking an engine in looks like! Using a very tortured
logic, subtracting a year for a military deployment and two
years for a Masters Program, we finally completed RV-8
N747BM after 7 ½ years…. OK, OK…. 10 ½ years!!!!! My wife
can rivet and proseal and I have an amazing group of guys
that pitched in to keep me going.
First Real IFR in the RV! ...crabandy
I flew my RV with a handheld for a year and did a radio
install/first condition inspection a few months ago. I had
other issues like remaking fuel lines and installing new
cylinders over the next couple months but the radio install
seemed pretty solid in the 20 flight hours since
installation. I had a trip planned for today and wouldn't
you know my destination was IFR, closest weather was 1/2-1
mile vis and 300-900 ceilings with good VFR within a 20
I waited an extra 45 minutes to find the Wx was improving
slightly, loaded some extra gas and took off. The start of
the BKN/OVC layer shortly after takeoff, we stayed about
3000 ft above the layer in cruise.
Skyking Bob's Initial Glider Ride
Lycoming Piston Pin Plug Failure ...N208ET
RV-3B Status Report
Panel Status Report
Somewhere over Texas. dr photo.
Cleaveland Aircraft Tool Webinar
Cedar Mills - Flooding
Hate to see Cedar Mills getting hit like this again. Took
these late yesterday so it was starting to get dark but it
looks like at least 1/3 if not 1/2 of the runway is in the
lake. I think that is boat floating on the porch of the
Diagnosing radio noise
I was particularly proud of my installation of the ICOM
A210 and the PS 1000II intercom because there wasn't a shred
Then I flew to the Berkshires on Thursday, encountering rain
behind a front that took my about 10 minutes or so to punch
It sat on the ramp for a day -- covered -- and when I gave
rides yesterday, I noticed heavy static mirroring the engine
RPM. It sort of got quieter (or perhaps the rest of the
world got louder) the more I flew but never really went
It was in both my and the passenger headphones (I flew right
seat to give a ride to a former fighter jock, American pilot
and current T-6 operator)
My head tells me that maybe there's a relationship between
the rain and the noise, but, before I go off diagnosing, I
have to consider that maybe there isn't.
When I flew over last year, I had trouble with my
transponder and just rewired the antenna and it worked
perfectly. And I recall looking at the com antenna
connection at the time and thinking, "I should replace that
connector with a 90 degree connector under the seat to take
the strain off that coax.
The transmissions I made sounded fine, my wife told me on
the ground. If that makes any difference.
But before I get home, I want to have a step by step plan
for diagnosing this. And I'm thinking the antenna connection
is the place to start.
In what order would you check things?
Removing right baggage floor on a 9A - aft rivets to bulkhead?
This is a question about whether we need to figure out a
way to remove some rivets... We bought our 9A already
flying, and the passenger step cracked a while back. We've
just started the replacement process. The part numbers that
follow are from drawing 29.
Vans Forum, we want your input!!!
(EarthX Lithium)......VAF Advertiser
"First off, thank you all who have been supporting us over
the years and adding your valuable input. We are now
officially working with 11 OEM aircraft manufacturers and
are endorsed and trusted by their own independent R & D
testing departments! Thank you!
As this market is relatively new, there is some gray areas
that we want your input with.
We would like to ask all of your for your input about the
specs for a lithium iron phosphate battery. It can replace a
lead acid battery, but it is not the same. To date, we have
tried to write up the spec's in a comparison type language
but maybe it's time to revolutionize this area.
A lead acid battery open circuit voltage (OCV) is
technically 12.6V. (definition of an OCV is: Open circuit
voltage (or potential) is voltage which is not connected to
any load in a circuit) but we call it a 12V.
A lithium iron phosphate battery OCV is technically a 13.2V
but the industry calls it a 12V so that people know they can
use it as a replacement.
We are considering changing how the industry labels the
batteries, or at least our batteries, and want to call the
voltage 13.2V but we are afraid consuemrs will think they
can not use it as a replacement for a 12v battery. Any
Second question, any input on how to label the amp hours?
This is an area that is all over the charts from battery
manufacturer to battery manufacturer. (and marketing
material as well) We want to state exactly how much amperage
you have in the event you are using the battery as a deep
cycle application such as when your alternator fails. We
list both now, what type of equivalent amperage a lead acid
battery would have for the amount of cranking power and the
usable amp hour. We want to go to listing only the usable
amperage but the numbers of what a lead acid might say will
look much more in comparison even though it might be less as
very few will list the true usable amperage. As an example,
if we list the ETX680 as 12.4ah, and the PC680 list theirs
as 18, (but only have 12.8 usable) it is confusing. And if
you compared another lead acid manufacturer, their listed 18
amp hour might only be 10 usable by design.
Look forward to hearing your input and thank you in
Airplane Wash for Hire!
Where do they think it up?
I find myself working in the hangar yesterday. Was doing
some electrical work so I needed the master on for some long
periods of time. I hooked the battery charger up and did my
My 5 year old daughter walked in......
What is that thing right there?
A battery charger, honey
Can that thing make little fire sparkles? ..........<g>
Once upon a time, an RV was built from raw sheet by
forming over hammerforms. Obviously we don't do much of that
anymore, although there are some remaining plans-builders
RV-8 Radial Engine First Run
Engine Start ...Andy
An induction leak is suspected (which I know cause of)
hence the "not quite smooth running". Apart from that, all
seems to work <g>.
Front tire after 4 landings
So I've done my normal search thing but this time no
luck. I think it's just a defective tire (this is the nose
wheel tire on my 9A). I've only landed 4 times and I'm
fairly sure they've been good landings. Thoughts on what
caused this would be helpful.
Glaucoma and flying the RV (or any airplane)
This message may be of interest to older pilots and
pilots not far from being "older".
My medical certificate is to expire soon so I had an eye
exam to make sure I could pass the vision test. I have
moderate cataracts but correctible with glasses. The exam
revealed a different problem I was not aware of - high
pressure in the left eye. Specifically 33, a number
determined by the test. FAA limit is 23.
The indication is a precursor to glaucoma which can lead to
optic nerve damage and blindness if not treated. The optic
nerve has over 1 million transmitters, incredible.
Back to FAA certification - I was concerned that this might
be the end. Glaucoma affects peripheral vision as it shuts
down eye function.
First thing to happen was the ophthalmologist prescribed
Lumigan drops for 30 days to reduce the pressure. The 33
number had to come down to protect the eye and meet FAA
During the 30 day period I checked out the certification
requirements for this condition. It turns out the AME has
authority to issue the certificate if certain conditions are
met. If these basic conditions are not met, the matter is
referred to the FAA for review. The test results are
reported on FAA form 8500 completed by the ophthalmologist.
This information is presented to the AME with a check list
as to whether he can certify.
I did not understand much of the information on form 8500 so
the outcome was somewhat in doubt until I saw my AME last
week. I gave him the report the week before so he could
review it before the appointment.
The 30 days of Lumigan worked, left eye pressure dropped to
22. Next came the peripheral test, it was complicated
looking at a white dot and indicating when other white dots
appeared around the edges of a circle. I thought I flunked
it as I had to do part of it over. As it turns out I did
not. My AME issued the certificate, he had reviewed the data
and that was that. Whew!
If this situation evolves it probsably will be ok with FAA
if detected early. Class 1 and 2 certificates are reviewed
every 6 months, Class 3 can go 2 years. The down side is
Lumigan drops are forever. Eye pressure should be checked
every 6 months to verify the medication is working, it comes
in variable strength..
How bad is this elevator tab bend?
RVs and Exercise Equipment
Twenty years spent
collecting unwanted exercise equipment from pilots and
friends who never wanted to see them again. The
equipment lives between the RV-6 and the hangar wall and is
used regularly. Yes, that is a 'Chuck Norris' Total
Gym as seen on TV between the wing and horizontal stab.
It's actually pretty dang useful.
For the last year or so,
I've been on the lookout for somebody tired of their
elliptical machine in the DFW area. So, if that's
you please give me a call and make me an offer!
Trying to hold off Father
Time for as long as I can while making the budget happy ;^).
Slowly getting there! As always, any Van's RV fan
is welcome to use the workout equipment in
if the door is up. Bring your own towel, though
Wishing you and yours a
happy, safe and RV-filled weekend.
Proper use of the Parker Rolo Flare tool
Mike Lauritsen from Cleaveland Aircraft Tool covers the
proper use of the Parker Rolo Flare tool and fields
questions from homebuilders during this 30 minute online
Followup on Walt's 'What's wrong
with this' thread
I think the main point I'd like to see folks take away
from this is that every time you do an inspection,
especially if you're looking at your own aircraft, is that
you really need to take a step back and try to look at
things with a "fresh set of eyeballs".
This aircraft was built in 1992 and I have no idea when this
part was actually installed, but I can assure you it wasn't
recently so it has been overlooked for quite some time.
This is an excellent example of how having someone else do
your condition inspections every now and then can be a good
thing, owners/inspectors will get complacent if they see the
same aircraft every year, it's just human nature, they stop
looking like it was a first time inspection which always has
a higher level of scrutiny than a repeat aircraft. Builders
are especially vulnerable to this type finding, they "know"
they built it correctly so why would they need to scrutinize
Your life and those of your passengers depends on sound
maintenance practices, make sure you give it the time and
attention it deserves!
VAF Courtesy Car List Updated
Rudder cable conduit
Has anyone run their rudder cable through the cabin in
I had a piece of 1/2" pex and it fits the grommet holes
perfectly and the cable end fits through it just fine. I
have flightline interior panels, but the rudder cable just
floating around has always bothered me. I know it works
fine, Im just not comfortable with it.
I am not worried about the few ounces weight. I know it
isn't necessary. Is there a safety reason to not run the
rudder cable through the cabin in conduit?
Making progress on why the
forums lock up Fridays at 11:30 CST for an hour
(from my ISP) "I monitored
the server on Friday at 11:30am CST and verified there were
no processes executing during the time the website becomes
unavailable. The errors are all related to IIS 6.0 and PHP
and the issue appears to be development related. I engaged
XXXX XXXX while the site was down on Friday and he had
me look at possible fixes with IIS, but none of them were
relevant to the issue. Here is the error that occurs when
the site is unavailable:
Source: W3SVC-WP Event ID: 2216
The script started from the URL '/community/showthread.php'
with parameters 't=125423&page=2' has not responded within
the configured timeout period. The HTTP server is
terminating the script."
We're still working the problem, but for now you'll have to
live with 167 hours a week uptime instead of 168 until then
<g>. Fridays from 11:30am to around 1pm Dallas time
might not be the best time to check the forums. If
you're an IIS guru, or if you work at Microsoft and know
smarter-than-me people (which isn't saying much), I'd love
to hear from you if this error message/mode makes a light
bulb go off above your head. BTW, I'm migrating to a
new server (running an upgraded version of Windows Server
and SQL in the next 2-3 months).
100 Hours ...andyrv
I have about 100 hours on the new panel but
haven't taken the time to get the new EFIS frames powder
Garmin GDU 460, GDU 450, GTN-650, SL-30, GTX-330ES. Dual
AHRS, Engine monitor, Auto pilot, GDL-39. Trutrak Gemini PFD
for backup. The Garmin and the TT both have independent
Those that went to RV-12 from 6,7,8,9?
Curious to see feedback for those that went
to a 12 and flew or owned another version prior. What are
the benefits and downsides.
Debating back and forth on 12 vs another model for awhile
now. The speed of others is attractive, but operating cost
of others surely adds into that factor. Is it worth it.
Being the 12 is so light do you notice more bumps.
Anything else be helpful to know.
Quiz - What's wrong with this Gascolator
I stumbled across this during a condition
inspection, can you spot the problem with this install?
(Ignore the wires, thats not the issue here).
LOE Date: October 16-18, 2015
F82 - Lubbock Executive Airpark
Runway 17/35 – 3500 x 70 Hard Surface
Runway 07/24 – 1500x150 Grass
Limited number of motor home hookups; On site airport tent
area; Limited number of hard surface tie downs - Lots of
downs; Some hanger space rental at $25.00 per night (Not yet
Motel with shuttle service - Block Fly In Rate to follow:
Clarion Hotel & Conference Center
3201 Loop 289 South, Lubbock, TX, 79423, US
Phone: (806) 797-3241 Fax: (806) 793-1203
Saturday afternoon Fly Out Museum Tour: F-82 TO: KLBB
(Silent Wings Museum) AND F49 Slaton Texas Air Museum (Free
More info to follow.
Russ Daves & Gray Bridwell
Co-Chairs LOE 2015.
Issue Online ...40 pg PDF document (free)
Quote of the Day ...JonJay
Don't confuse "performance" with flying
qualities. Lighter airplanes fly nicer. FP equipped machines
are usually, inherently, lighter.
That said, you can pry my CS prop out of my cold dead
Having flown FP on my -6 for a few years before converting
to C/S, I had to chuckle. dr]
Swollen Denton Creek looking SE today.
North of Justin, TX. dr photo.
Grapevine Lake beach on the west end (looking
NW). Where'd the sand go?.
How much Micro is too much Micro?
In order to get vents level and a consistent gap on nose
ring, I had to move the bottom cowl about 1/8" forward. This
created an "underbite" on the outboard cowl inlets at the
horizontal seam. I'm totally new to fiberglass but I have
been reading a lot in these forums. Is it acceptable to
build up the top cowl inlet with micro and sand to match the
bottom cowl or would I need to use something more structural
here? Also, how do I need to prepare the surface, etc?
8.33 Spacing in Europe
Channel spacing 8.33 is coming rapidly in Europe. In 2017
all radio's should be 8.33 capable. Even worse, in The
Netherlands the authorities like to be one step ahead....
which means the number of 8.33 frequencies is increasing.
CTR's equipped with 8.33 spacing are prohibited for aircraft
using "old radio's".
Windscreen Fairing Alternative
I have noticed on several finished and flying RV's that
the glassed fairing at the base of the windscreens is
cracking. My Cessna has a strip of aluminum to fair the base
of the windscreen. I was just wondering if anyone out there
has tried any alternatives to "glassing" the windscreen
fairing to the windscreen? If so, any pics? Likewise, are
there any known ways to prevent the cracks from occurring?
The last RV I saw had a beautiful paint job and now cracks
are forming at the base of the windscreen. I just want to
put some thought into this as I am just about to start
cutting the canopy.
'hydroguy2' Build Update
Spent a productive Mothers Day at Cabin Creek. Kris and I
acid stained and applied J-35 sealer costing to the hangar
floor. Whew, a little work but kind of cool looking.
Grass Strip Entry ...Veetail88
From Rich at
EXTENSIONS. We just received a new batch of Valve
Extensions. The flexibility of these extensions allows you
to get easy access to your hard to get to tire valves. For
more details on this and more GREAT PRODUCTS.
Request panel layout review ...dbaflyer
I'm getting ready to move
forward getting my panel built and would like to get some
feedback on what I have. I am a VFR pilot who would like to
pursue an IFR rating once my plane is complete.
This is a G3X Touch panel with GMA240, GTN650 (plumb now and
add later as $$ come available), GMC305 Autopilot
controller, Dynon D6 with backup battery. IBBS Backup
battery for GDU 460/GAD 29/GEA 24/GSU 25 , heated pitot,
GDL39R, Dual access auto-pilot, GTX-23 ES Transponder,
Enter the Next Kitplanes “Best Of…” Photo Contest!
"...For this coming month,
we'd like to see what homebuilders use to keep dirt - and
critters - out of their intakes and pitot tubes when they
are not flying. While many of us use boring red flags and
pieces of foam, it is not uncommon to see something a bit
more "playful" when perusing the ramp at a local or regional
fly-in. Send in your pictures - we'll pick our top favorites
and throw them back out for a community vote! Come on folks
- Intake plugs - let's see the Best!"
First Engine Start
Well I tried to get a video
of the first engine start done but my devices don't want to
That being said. Today I started the engine.
Had all the systems working.
A few thing went wrong:
-A couple of fuel fittings were not as tight as they needed
to be so they leaked during fuel checks. Got it corrected.
-Operator error. I followed the check-list but when it said
"BAT ON" I used the wrong battery switch. I have a way to
drop the battery/start contactor. after a few seconds of
frustration. I told myself to think and I figure it out. It
was a habit that I developed from doing all my ground tests.
Instead of wasting battery life, I kept by-passing the
-The RPM indicated was twice the actual. I chose 1 on the
EFIS. I will set it up to 0.5 pulses.
That was it. Now to schedule the DAR.
Split in tire tube
Had a flat tire on the
Rocket the other day. Took the wheel off this is what I
RV-12 Needing to be Ferried
...Tucson to Forest City, IA
This was in my inbox today. Posting here to see if
someone can help him out. dr]
Follow Up RE: 'Alternator Fooled Me': ...DanH
Tweaking the connector
didn't work long term. Actually, it didn't work very long at
all...maybe 10 hours.
Cut the plug off the harness and dissected it. Here's what
the connectors look like when out of plastic housing. You're
looking at top and bottom.
Lots of rain here in the DFW area this weekend.
Hope less wet where you are...and that you had a good weekend.
Go West Young Man…again ...Gary Palinkas
So there I was, in the desert of New Mexico, minding my
own business and dreaming RV’s when I get a text from
SkyKing Bob. Says he’s going to come to KABQ to put a dent
in my boredom.
He did. We did. Then we did our best to interrupt the day of
a lot of very friendly people at Moriarty Airport, NM. In a
sea of brown, the airport is a hidden jewel. Lots of things
and people we never expected to see.
Visited with (proud to call him my friend), F-111 pilot
Extraordinaire, Tom Bender. Tom is also an RV-6
builder/Flyer and I did an VAF article a few years ago on my
adventures with Tom.
New Home for N642EM ...Loren Jackson
After several weeks of intensively searching for an RV-6A
I finally found N642EM in Corona CA that I plan to ferry
home on Monday. I plan to fly it home to my home airport
KAWO north of Seattle. I just completed 2 days of RV
transition training with Mike Seager in Vernonia OR flying
the Van’s RV-6A production prototype. I’ve studied the
airspace around Corona and I plan to head out of the LA
basin via Cajon Pass.
Questions about my recent transition training, offers of
contingency help as I head up through CA or any other
comments appreciated! I look forward to flying this 180hp CS
prop RV-6A over the next several years as I continue
building my RV-7A.
Retrofitting a landing light into a flying airplane
There's a kit for that...
Where did 5 kts of airspeed go?...Christer Stenstrom
Here is a puzzling question? I have a new 0-360 engine
with a MA4-5 carb. I have a Garmin G3X system that records
every imaginable parameter once per second.
On my initial phase 1 test flights, I had the following
TAS 170 kts, MAP- 23.5, RPM 2410, density alt 3047, OAT 12
I had an issue with the carburetor and it was exchanged for
a new one of the same exact P/N (5-4164-1). After
installation here are my performance numbers:
TAS 165 kts, MAP-23.6, RPM 2390, density alt 2914, OAT 10
Somewhere I lost 5 kts. Fuel load was very close to the same
so aircraft weight was the same. Both flights were at full
rich due to new engine still. The engine seems to be
producing less power only by the numbers, it runs and feels
There is one foot note to add. During the carb change I
noticed that the hole in the Van's throttle cable bracket
that sits between the carb and the sump was slightly smaller
in diameter than the sump opening by about 1/8 in. I opened
it up to match the sump which should have improved
performance if anything.
Any good thoughts on where the 5 kts of airspeed went?
Bad USB Port Workaround
My Skyview doesn't seem to recognize USB drives inserted
into the port below the panel. I've tried with two different
USB sticks, both of which work fine in multiple PCs.
One the drives has an LED indicator on it which lights up
when it gets power. With this stick, the LED flickers as I
insert it into the plane and if I move the drive around in
the port, but it doesn't stay on long enough for the Skyview
system to recognize the drive. I assume I have a bad USB
port in my plane. I haven't yet opened up the panel to see
if the other USB ports in the Skyview are working.
Has anyone else ever seen this happen?
Does anyone know the best place to start looking for a
replacement USB port part? Van's? Dynon? Stein?.
RV-10 Seat Mod Update ...Mike S.
Just to "close the loop" on this----------the seats have
been in and out 3 or 4 times in the last month, and the
nutplate mod has been everything I had hoped/expected it to
Very glad I did it, really sorry I waited 4 1/2 years to do
Mothership First Flight Totals
As of May 07, 2015 9,028 RV aircraft have been
completed and flown!.
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled
weekend. Could be a weekend edition depending on news
volume. We'll see. On a technical note, the previous
two Fridays for about an hour starting around 11:30 Dallas, TX
time, the forums seem to get constipated, and they throw
database errors and run slow. Some folks will be watching
today around that time to see if we can get a better handle on
what is occurring (if it does). v/r,
N82SE Flies! ...Sam Evans
It's been almost a week now, so I guess I better make a
post on the forum. N82SE left the ground for the first
time on Thursday, April 30. To say the least, it was an
exhilarating experience; none like I've ever had. Although I
had a couple of squawks, the plane flew very well. I made
three laps around the pattern and landed. One of the squawks
was that I had no airspeed indication (I've already been
admonished for continuing the flight). The engine was
making good power & I continued on using GPS groundspeed.
Although I did make a good landing, I came in a little 'hot'
just to be on the safe side.
After eleven years, it was a great day. <g>
Testing The Waters- Mojave to Bimini ...Michael Robinson
With a nod to Rosie's epic journey, I just wanted to give
a quick shout out to all the virgins out there. If you think
you want to fly the Bahamas, just do it!
With plenty of research and building confidence in our
recently acquired Rocket We loaded up our stuff and set out
solo for our first foray out of the country.
Troy Branch Videos of Calgary to Florida Keys Trip
It's an airplane now ...PeteP 9a
Critters Lodge Fly-In Video
Talk of Recessed Cameras
Aliant Ultralight Batteries ...ad on the front page
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Sunset over Dietz Airpark at 10,000ft.
...open cockpit RV-3
EFII - the jury is coming in
Well, I think it's about time that I post a few of my
experiences with the EFII system (dual ignition and
injection) in the RV-10. I do believe N930M is the first
RV-10, and possibly the first 6-cylinder engine, to be
flying with the full EFII system. I now have 20 hours in it
and feel like I should share my experiences and thoughts on
it. I have talked to several people who have shown interest
or who are planning to install it in their -10's, so this is
mainly for those people, or those who may be on the fence.
First of all, it is a system that required, IMHO, a fair bit
more planning than a standard engine with mags and
mechanical fuel injection. Even with electronic ignition on
one or both sides. I have had a few misgivings of flying
-10's with dual lightspeeds, but that didn't last very long.
I am actually very much looking forward to flying with the
P-mag if/when they ever actually start delivering them. With
dual electronic ignition and electronic injection, though,
it mecomes much more serious. You really should have dual
batteries, at at least dual contactors, if not full dual
busses. You really should have dual alternators, or at least
it's a very good idea. You need dual fuel pumps because
there is no engine-driven pump. if any of these systems
aren't redundant and the only one fails, you either are
immediately a glider or shortly will be. I know that the
battery can keep you going for a while if the alternator
fails, but I'm not about to test how long that is. I also
think it's very important to have dual ECU's, one
controlling each ignition and each can separately control
the injection system. I know this becomes a fairly expensive
system, but just think, at least it's only 30-year-old
technology instead of 80-year-old technology.
To be perfectly honest, it took several weeks after first
engine run for me to get up the nerve to climb in and go
flying. I was very careful to stay within gliding distance
of the runway for the first several hours. I just didn't
fully understand all that was going on (still don't) and was
nervous about being the test pilot for a new system. I have
done first flights before, but never with a system that had
never flown in this configuration before (at least that I am
Voices of Valor: Bobby Brashaer
[ed. Bob is a rock star in the
RV world. My hometown newspaper did a piece on him,
and went into detail on some things you probably didn't
know. What an honor to say I know this man!
From the mothership
ALT field switch... why, really?
A: voltage spike during start
A: voltage regulator fails and the voltage increases
above acceptable levels
A: alternator belt breaks
A: If there is ever smoke in the cockpit, it might be
desired to shut off all electrical power including the
battery and alternator, thus a need for an alternator
A: when de-energized, contactors and solenoids can
produce a high voltage spike
Hat Sighting ...Turbo's Annual SnF Flight Review
From the Mothership FB Page
Day 25: Dallas to Rosamond Skypark ...Rosie
Status Report ...Z-EDD
Panel Status ...Mark Dickens
Engine Fairy Visited ...walter
Paint Time! ...Guilhermepilot
Upcoming EAA Webinars
Weight/Balance This Weekend...AX-O
TeenFlight Puyallup celebrates first engine start ...video
I'm going to try something a
little different here for a bit. Going to push out the home page
news at times other than 0630 local my time. Maybe
afternoon...maybe evening. Some days maybe twice! I
don't know if it will work, or what the ups and downs of it are,
or how I will feel having done it for a few days. The
times might ebb and flow with news volumes. The main goal
is to end the practice of waking up before 5 AM each morning and
hitting the keyboard in a flurry starting 2 min. after my eyes
open. The idea of waking up to the birds and sun seems to me to
be a healthier lifestyle choice :-).
Side note: Audrey made a 100 on her calculus final (sophomore chem. major
at SMU). What a brain on that kid!
Rosie and Tuppergal Are Home
ECI Sold to Continental
Crankcase Pressure Data
"...When I first flew with my new engine, an IO-375 in an
RV7A, I had the Antisplat Aero oil separator with the vacuum
system installed. After about 10 hours time on the engine it
developed a small leak that I traced to the front seal, (oil
on the ID of the flywheel).
Peach Slip In Hand
How to compromise a good fuel tank
I submit this boo-boo message and perhaps it won't happen
I have a question for someone who knows more about
magnetos than me, which is just about everybody I guess. My
RV7 was ready for its first flight last Tuesday but
unfortunately the weather was crappy that day and I had to
go back to work for a two week hitch on Wednesday!
I have a little time to think about solving my a little
Magneto problem I have....I have two Bendix S4LN mags on my
pre owned IO-360 B1E. I thought they were rebuilt 75 hrs ago
but after re examining my engine documents, it says
"Repaired as Needed". I installed new harnesses on each mag
(harnesses came assembled with new caps) along with 8 new
tempest fine wire plugs. I have one Dynon Comm Radio and
Intercom....On run up mag check, I get a 60 RPM drop on each
mag. I have never gotten a bad check from either mag unless
I had a fouled plug. I have run my engine more than a
several times and managed to foul the old plugs before I got
my idle mixture right. I have a ticking noise coming from
the right mag that follows my engine RPM.
Mission Control, I have a problem
This is a very painful post for me. I think I have gone
through a few trapdoors that I might not be able to come
back through, and I am really hoping someone here can give
me some advice.
In an effort to make my floors "removable", I elected to put
Rivnuts in under the floors. I thought it all went well.
When I had finished up all of the wiring under the floors, I
figured I could put in the floors, because I could take them
out later. During the process of doing that, I "spun" two of
the Rivnuts. Meaning that they were spinning in their holes,
so I got not get the floor screws to go in further, nor take
Sun n Fun 2015 ...Jaybird
A few stats if you want them.
ECI O-360 9.5 to 1 Pistons taper head jugs.
139. Gal of 100LL used
$680 for the gas
16.4 hours flown
$1280 For room, wrist bands, camping fee, ramp fees, etc
Bruce Hill Status Update
Does anyone experience junk like this? Long story/need advice
I thought I simplify and remove the prop oil return line
on my engine since I am going with a Catto fixed pitch prop.
The word of the day is "Simplify". It just rolls off the
I have an IO-360-A1A. The front plug on the crank is removed
already because it was driving a constant speed prop in its
With Service Instruction 1435 between my formerly Cheetos
stained fingers, I gave it a good read to understand what
needed to happen next. It said to either pierce or remove
the rear plug, located about 7-8" down the crank shaft. Oh
yeah, there is also an oil return tube running across this
cavity a couple of inches in front of the rear plug.
Fortunately, this tube is notched to give access to the rear
plug. Easy, right? Sorry, forgot that we're talking about an
airplane engine or anything airplane for that matter. Now
its time to figure out where the catch is.
Blain's Panel Cut
Mon May 4, 2015.
Excuse me pushing out the edition so early today.
I'm sick as a
Doug dog and thought I would type while I had energy.
Going back to bed....and good Monday morning.
N728TT First Flight ...Todd Stovall
I'm officially the owner of a flying RV-10 now! The flight was
short, (3 circuits around the field -- first at pattern altitude,
2nd a low approach, 3rd the first landing). Thanks to David Maib, my
transition instructor, the flight was a non-event and the plane flew
as advertised. I do have an oil leak which appears to be at the
filter, but I'll get that sorted shortly.
Everybody loves Turbo
Grass Season 2015 ...Vlad
Day 23: St. Kitts to Great Exuma ...Rosie
Day 24: Great Exuma to Dallas ...Rosie
[ed. PS: Rosie is now home
resting and playing w/the dogs. dr]
Happy Birthday Jim Thill! ...Vlad
Another RV IAC Contest Win - Ron Schreck
Congrats to Ron Schreck who outscored Pitts and Giles to win
Sportsman at the Carolina Boogie in Wilson, NC this weekend in his
RV-8. Ron also had the second highest percentage scoring flights of
anyone in any category with his last two flights just under 87%
each. It doesn't get better than that.
So right now RV IAC participation remains extremely small, but at
least the few involved really show what an RV can do in the hands of
So as tradition requires me to say, Ron - move up! <g>
Amazon Ranch ...Larry Pardue
How would you like to own hundreds of square miles of West Texas
ranch land and have the money to do pretty much whatever you like on
that land? Some of Jeff Bezos' projects do seem fun.
Welcome AV8R Designs ...ad in Previous Day's News
jist of the company is, like many others, seeing the need for
I didn’t like the exterior handle for the RV-10, and I wanted
something that maintained the stock functionality so as to not
interfere with the third latch from Plane Around. So, I designed a
new handle. After selling off the excess form the first batch, I had
ALOT of requests for more, so, here you go.
a picture of the handle. It’s simple 3 piece design that drops right
on with very little modification and can easily be installed onto
painted and flying planes in 10 minutes. The kit comes with a nylon
spacer, 1 extra button and fully detailed instructions. Pics of the
handle left and right.
Besides the handle, I’m working on some carbon fiber cable fairings,
a new interior handle for the 10 (again, that doesn’t require
modifying the door), as well as wing root fairing for the 10 that
are smaller and more affordable than what’s out there.
Mon May 4, 2015.
Excuse me pushing out the edition so early today.
I'm sick as a dog and thought I would type while I had energy.
Going back to bed....and good Monday morning.
N728TT First Flight ...Todd Stovall
I'm officially the owner of a flying RV-10 now! The
flight was short, (3 circuits around the field -- first at
pattern altitude, 2nd a low approach, 3rd the first
landing). Thanks to David Maib, my transition instructor,
the flight was a non-event and the plane flew as advertised.
I do have an oil leak which appears to be at the filter, but
I'll get that sorted shortly.
Everybody loves Turbo
Grass Season 2015 ...Vlad
Day 23: St. Kitts to Great Exuma ...Rosie
Day 24: Great Exuma to Dallas ...Rosie
[ed. PS: Rosie is now
home resting and playing w/the dogs. dr]
Happy Birthday Jim Thill! ...Vlad
Another RV IAC Contest Win - Ron Schreck
Congrats to Ron Schreck who outscored Pitts and Giles to
win Sportsman at the Carolina Boogie in Wilson, NC this
weekend in his RV-8. Ron also had the second highest
percentage scoring flights of anyone in any category with
his last two flights just under 87% each. It doesn't get
better than that.
So right now RV IAC participation remains extremely small,
but at least the few involved really show what an RV can do
in the hands of skilled pilots.
So as tradition requires me to say, Ron - move up! <g>
Amazon Ranch ...Larry Pardue
How would you like to own hundreds of square miles of
West Texas ranch land and have the money to do pretty much
whatever you like on that land? Some of Jeff Bezos' projects
do seem fun.
Welcome AV8R Designs ...ad in Previous Day's News
jist of the company is, like many others, seeing the need
I didn’t like the exterior handle for the RV-10, and I
wanted something that maintained the stock functionality so
as to not interfere with the third latch from Plane Around.
So, I designed a new handle. After selling off the excess
form the first batch, I had ALOT of requests for more, so,
here you go.
a picture of the handle. It’s simple 3 piece design that
drops right on with very little modification and can easily
be installed onto painted and flying planes in 10 minutes.
The kit comes with a nylon spacer, 1 extra button and fully
detailed instructions. Pics of the handle left and right.
Besides the handle, I’m working on some carbon fiber cable
fairings, a new interior handle for the 10 (again, that
doesn’t require modifying the door), as well as wing root
fairing for the 10 that are smaller and more affordable than
what’s out there.
Fri May 1, 2015.
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled
May Wallpaper Calendar
Airborne!!! ...Dan Weyant 9A
At about 6:00 CDT this afternoon N96KD took to the sky
for the first time.
Everything worked great, and she just jumped off of the
field. I've got a few issues I need to work out before
second flight, but overall I'm thrilled with how everything
Day 22: St. Kitts ...Rosie
Today was our last day of vacation, and starting on
Friday, 1 May, it all TRAVEL back to the States and
eventually home…this is the part of the trip I do not look
forward to because it’s ‘back to the real world…’
N728TT is Now an Airplane! ... Todd Stovall
Well, it took a while to get here, and my experience with
the Washington FSDO was a mirror of that journey, but I'm
proud to report that N728TT is no longer a project and is
now the latest RV-10 to join the fleet!
What is this material blowing by?
This is a new engine (IO-360 parallel valve, standard
compression, vetterman exhaust) put together by Aero Sport
Power (65 hours so far). I have noticed some seepage on the
number 2 cylinder through 1) the hole where EGT probe is
installed and 2) The exhaust joint downstream that exhaust
Embarrassing photo ...Jwputnam
I am learning about riveting the hard way I am afraid. I
have made more than a few ham handed riveting errors that
show up as dents and bruises, but I have corrected almost
all of them. The painter is going to have to do the rest I
One of them does concern me, so I am posting this photo for
comment, as much as it pains me to display it!
NationAir is now Gallagher Aviation ...jestes
Attention all Vans owners and enthusiasts -
As some of you may know NationAir and Arthur J. Gallagher
recently merged and from this merger NationAir will now be
known as Gallagher Aviation. Remember this name
Our office in Chesterfield MO is still devoted to all light
aircraft and our Vans specialist remain the same.
We are still the same great team we have always been we just
have a new name. You will still receive the quality service
you have come to expect and trust from us. Please remember
this new name and pass it along to your friends! See you at
Eagle's Nest Projects - SnF Youth Achievement Award
Why is my ventilation air hotter than ambient?
Can someone tell me why the air coming in the standard
cabin vents is hotter than ambient?
Before you speculate....take a temperature probe with you
and stick it in the vent while flying and compare it against
a known outside air temperature.
Is it heat of compression alone? boundary layer ingested air
from the cowling? heat leaking from around the cowling hinge
(mine is fairly tight but i guess it could still leak some)?
Alternator Fooled Me ...DanH
There I was, flying along, minding my own business, and I
get an "EIS VOLTS" warning. Uh oh, losing an alternator.
Status Report ...N546RV
Well, the wings are as done as they're going to be for
the foreseeable future. For the time being, I'm not going to
bother riveting the bottom skins. Keep these things open
until I've got all my plumbing and such finalized.