June 15, 2018. Issue
Back in the saddle!
Thursday 0900 I flew the RV for the first time since last Saturday.
I *tried* to hop over the KAFW and do a quick 16L ILS
starting at WIGZU for a tight .2, but they were working four planes
besides me, one of which a FedEx heavy. So over Justin I opted to
slip out the back Jack and called up Denton for their 18 ILS instead
- pattern to myself. Good practice I think to go from being set up
to do one approach, throwing all that out the window, and resetting
for a different airport slash approach ten miles away. Lotsa
buttons, and opportunities to muck it up. Joined at PINCK and
at mins scooted back direct 52F.
note are the overshoot on the localizer (I was fast) and
the sorta circular overhead break with base just over
FM1171. Flaps 1 about 90* from final and flaps 2
just lining up with the centerline….concentrated on
keeping the circle a circle while honking that flap
handle up (I can sometimes see in the track where I grab
for flaps). Crosswind makes the circle even more
fun, and the short bursts of concentration get
addictive. Screen grabs from Garmin Pilot on the
It was good to get off the surface again. I missed it.
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled
48 States in 7 Days - Day 7 ...larrynew
Day 7 - Friday, June 1st, 2018
We were up early at cousin Mark and Gayle's house
with Uncle Tommy arriving at exactly 6 a.m. to cook
a delicious southern breakfast including grits with
Aunt Lois helping. Much better than my powdered milk
and cereal in a ziplock! On the way to the airport,
we visited with Jeff, cousin Laura's husband. He
owns a big company that builds huge electric motor
starters. We got the nickle tour and parting gifts
of Yeti cups. It was super interesting to see in
inner workings of a small factory. Another cousin
Dwayne worked there and we visited for a few
moments. Remember not being able to throw a rock
without hitting a cousin? We didn't mind the
somewhat slow start as the morning clouds in Florida
had our destination IFR.
When we departed for Marianna, Florida (KMAI) the
weather was already VFR. There were multiple
helicopters making practice approaches to the field
and it looked like it used to be a very large
training base of some sort. We parked next to an RV
but didn't go in to visit, only taking a quick
picture. We were both beginning to feel that this
was the last day of the trip and we need to keep
pushing and finish. No so much get-home-itis but
more keeping the momentum going.
Vladspotting ...Dutch Harbor, Alaska
"It was nice meeting you Andy. You should bring
your RV9A to Dutch Harbor. With all your busy
working schedule you won’t be able to fly much
though. Tom sold me 20 gallons of avgas he said he
will keep a stash for us. Good people are at the
airport the manager rocks!"
Houston area monthly RV lunch (June)
It's that time again! Looks like we're due to
rotate back up to Hooks for some B-52 burgers. Same
time as usual, 11:30, this Saturday (6-16).
I am unsure if I'll make it, as my parents are in
town visiting for a couple days. Depends entirely on
whether they're interested enough to want to attend
and listen to the fun stories.
Finished RV-12 ...Cdenora (Mexico)
4 years in the making. Ivo prop constant
speed. all else very much original.
Do I need to relocate my oil cooler? ...boulderick
Recently bought an RV-6A that flew first in 1995.
Now that it is getting hot in Colorado, I'm having
trouble with high oil temperatures. We're going
through the steps I've seen in other forum posts -
checking the baffles for leaks (there are some
places to tighten up), checking the oil cooler for
flow (expensive to have it cleaned, but we may do
that), checking the oil temp sender and gauge and
doing a compression test (tomorrow after work). The
one thing that seems odd about this aircraft is the
position of the oil cooler. It's just inside the
left hand intake, mounted horizontally with a piece
of 5/8" aluminum angle behind it to help direct some
of the airflow through the cooler. Seems that
airflow would largely bypass the cooler mounted this
way. Has anyone seen this kind of configuration? Do
I need to change it to the more traditional firewall
mounting with a SCAT hose from the back of the
June 14, 2018. Issue
Update on the
wifey's '07 car......bad fuel pump. New one on order now and
should be back on the line in a couple days. Easy fix and glad
Audrey didn't need the Honda at grad school. Minimal hassle
for the spousal unit.
48 States in 7 Days - Day 6
The two man tent was quite cozy. We have a bigger
one but this one is nice and light and was only
meant as a backup for this trip. Glad we had it.
Austin said he didn't sleep well as he had forgotten
his eye shades and didn't want to get up to get
them. We had a few good rain showers overnight with
no leaks in the tent plus a nice wet airplane to
make it easier to clean. For breakfast, we added
cold water to my powdered milk and cereal in a
ziplock that I had read about on a camping blog.
They said the key was the best quality powdered milk
and it was actually pretty good.
When we were finished with breakfast and almost
finished packing the airplane, an older lady drove
up to the fence and yelled she had unlocked the FBO
for us. We finished packing and taxied the airplane
over in front of the FBO and went inside to use the
facilities. While washing my hands, I had an odd
feeling like vertigo and worried maybe I was too
tired from the trip or getting sick. Turned out the
mirror was warped at the top and the peripheral
reflection behind me was like a fun house mirror.
Whew, crisis averted! We ended up waiting in the FBO
about 30 minutes for the weather to clear. The man
from last night and the lady from this morning were
in the FBO with us but neither visited or even said
hi. The open pilot lounge looked like the grand
kid's playroom and before we left, we got the
distinct impression that the couple was paid to run
the FBO but didn't care much for those pesky pilots
From the Mothership Website
"It’s that time again when we have to gauge our
costs and make adjustments to our kit prices. We
have viewed intently into our crystal ball and have
determined that our loyal customers will keep the
sales level high enough to warrant this minimal
increase. Thanks to all of our customers who keep us
Input Needed ...Av8torTom
Hello - I'm starting to think about the layout of
my panel. Will be VFR, day/night. I'm thinking one
10" and one 7" Dynon, but not married to any
manufacturer at this point. Input greatly
appreciated. Also, where are most people placing
their main electrical bus in the 9A?
Cowl flap thoughts ...crabandy
I think I’ve seen/googled most of the ideas out
there when it comes to cooling the lycoming in the
summertime. I’m sure there are many more out there
that I haven’t seen. I’ve done a decent amount of
work with inlets/plenum/sealing and lastly ignition
timing for temp control. Most people seem to be
concerned with climb out CHT’s. I currently have no
issues climbing out on a hot day, I have issues
taxiing after a quick turn on a hot day and I’m
carbureted. CHT’s and oil temps are fine but fuel
seems to be boiling, erratic chugging during taxi.
Idle mixture is correct and an excessively lean
mixture and RPM’s above 1000 help.
With my stock cowling I used to see heat radiating
out of the upper inlets while fueling. I don’t see
it with my sealed inlet boots. During ground
operations the pressure diff between the upper cowl
and lower cowl is very small. How many people pop
the oil door open after they land in hot temps?
Most cowl flaps are installed in conjunction with
the lower outlet, I’ve stared at this space on my
cowling for months trying to come up with ideas.
I’ve shrunk and contoured my exit to approximately
35 sq inches, not a lot of room for a cowl flap with
a vertical induction carb and 2 exhaust pipes.
I’ve also been staring at the rear of my upper
cowling, what about an upper cowl flap, similar to
the old 30’s cars/trucks had in front of the
windshield? With the low pressure diffs on the
ground it would take advantage of convection in
addition to a larger exit area during climb out. I
kept hoping for an easy test without months of work
I’m currently finishing an oil change and making
room behind the upper engine mount to possibly add
an upper cowl flap when it dawned on me, why don’t I
spend 2 minutes and remove the oil door and go fly
several quick turns? On 4 cylinder lycomings the oil
door is behind the upper plenum and part of the
lower cowling volume/pressure. Roughly 5x5 (25 sq
in) in the upper cowling that is convection friendly
on the ground, also pretty easy for anyone else to
test fly and and see what kind of cooling the extra
exit area gives them.
7A Rebirthing Status Report ...jcarne
Priming and riveting of the rear bulkheads is all
done. Now on to the longerons!
Just Cant Stop (even at full lean!)
This is pertaining to an IO360-A1A injected
engine with the RSA fuel servo.
I think Gremlins broke into my hangar. I just
performed a routine oil and filter change after
installing silicon rocker cover gaskets and a new
oil quick drain. I touched nothing else. Before
re-installing the cowl I ran the engine and allowed
the oil to heat up in order to check for oil leaks.
After reaching 170 degrees, I pulled throttle to
idle and mixture to full lean to stop the engine.
The engine wouldn't stop! It just kept on purring
like a kitten. No real roughness, etc. Without
giving it a lot of thought, I just switched the
magnetos off in order to kill the engine. My first
thought was that the lean cable came loose somewhere
and lost adjustment.
I checked the linkages along with the local IA.
Everything looks good. When lean is pulled, the
lever on the fuel servo goes all the way to the
stop. A fair amount of fuel (more than usual)
drained out of the sniffle valve from the sump. It
had to be a fluke! Went to restart engine. It was
very hard to start (which is unusual for my
experience with this engine. Remember that I killed
it by grounding the magnetos so fuel was still going
into the cylinders since I cant get shutoff at full
lean). Once started, and smoothed out, I pulled lean
and saw EGTs go up. I then pulled full lean and it
kept right on running. I killed the engine this time
by shutting the fuel off.
I had AirFlow Performance Overhaul my servo and
basically replaced the full injection system with
new parts and lines, restrictors, etc. back at the
start of the year.
Am I missing anything here or is this a call to
Airflow to troubleshoot? I am not aware of any
additional adjustments for Idle shutdown other than
making sure the lean lever on the fuel servo goes
all the way against the stop.
Your input is appreciated!
52F Fish Fry
...Phil cranked up the fryer, Jackie made some
coleslaw and Liz and John brought the brownies.
Around 25 ended up eating the crappie Randy, Phil
and Clayton caught not too long ago, and the usuals
had a nice opportunity to hang out with a cooling
breeze and RVs in the background.
Pic from Mr. X
....Golden Gate (left) / SF (right)
June 13, 2018. Issue
Tate earning some extra summer money out at 52F Tuesday.
Vladspotting ...Dutch Harbor, Alaska
"Thank you for tracking guys. Made it to my
planned destination Dutch Harbor, Alaska. The trip
could not be possible without help from all my
friends. Thank You! The trusty RV took another
beating and survived. Will be heading back leasurely
when weather improves. Looking forward to see you
So I returned to my home base at New Kent (W96,
Richmond, VA USA) the other day to find that a V-22
Osprey was doing touch-and-goes. Or whatever you
would call it when a tilt-rotor aircraft practices
The V-22 is just a flat-out amazing aircraft. I was
going to join the pattern and land so that I could
watch it in action, but then it occurred to me: what
is the wake turbulence like from those things?!?
Fearing it might be extra nasty, I motored on for
some additional sight-seeing elsewhere.
Any theories on how much room to give to a V-22?
48 States in 7 Days - Day 5
Next stop was eventually Petersburg, West
Virginia (W99). Leaving the low weather coast and
flying west, we had to avoid the huge DC SFRA
airspace and some weather while we were looking for
a destination where we could spend the night.
Petersburg listed "on airport camping" which sold
us. After landing, we searched for the camping area
and saw what looked like it but was outside the high
barb-wired fence with a locked gate. Then we saw a
large mowed field adjacent to the taxiway with a
bridge over the ditch that looked just like the new
"island" parking area in Home Built Camping at
Oshkosh. Looked perfect to us and we were the only
ones around so who could care. We pitched our
campsite and Austin went in search of electricity
around the closed FBO to heat water for our camping
dinner. During his search, an older gentleman drove
up and said we weren't supposed to camp there.
Austin said he told him the airport listed "on
airport camping" and that the other place wasn't "on
the airport" or even accessible. He grumbled
something and left but we stayed put.
Update: June 10, 2018 Trip to Seward, Alaska ...mbauer
Saturday June 9th, a visitor stopped by the Kenai
Airport (PAEN). Most of you will know who it is by
checking out this photo of his RV-9A and my RV-6
parked at the Transient Parking Apron here in Kenai.
Will you please critic my process/approach please
I really like the idea of painting before first
flight and since I have not found a suitable
painter, I have decided to tackle it myself. I hope
I don’t end up regretting this decision.
So far, I have done much of the fiberglass work to a
near paint ready stage, this is all except the cowl.
My choice of paint is a car type paint (base/clear)
and I believe either Valspar or PPG would be the MFG
but I like to get more info and recommendation on
So far, the process in my head is to
- Wash clean and sand (150-180 Grid) the bare
- Take care of any of the imperfection, rivet gun
smiles, with Evercoat Metal glaze and sand to
- Clean the area to be painted with acetone
- Prime with Transtar 2K DTM primer then sand with
600 grid to get all the minor defects
- Primer- Seal with the same primer, Transtar 2K but
- Paint with base coat within the specified time
(about a day) after sealer has been applied.
- Apply clear coat within the specified time after
Any other prep work on the bare metal is needed?
How important is to do the sealer if the primer is
smooth and ready. Will just sanding be sufficient
for adequate adhesion and bonding?
Finished RV-7 Pics ...vinigrando
RV IAC Aerobatic Competition Standings - 2018
Four RV pilots
competed this weekend in two separate contests.
Jerry Esquenazi and Randy King dominated the
Sportsman category at the Southeast Aerobatic
Championships in Rome, Georgia taking second and
third place among a very competitive field of
twelve. Bill McLean had a good thing going for the
first two flights in the Intermediate category but
faltered in the third flight. (You don't get to
count the best two out of three!)
Still to report is David Schmitz who is competing
int Salem, Illinois this weekend. Weather has
delayed the contest and we are still waiting for
final results. More news to follow...
From Mothership FB Page
June 12, 2018. Issue
Colonoscopy went well. Zero polyps. One
hemorrhoid caught, banded, tagged and released w/tracker.
Still sleepy and have (not medically trained) a condition I choose
to call 'Butt Fire'. Taking it easy.
See you Wednesday.
June 11, 2018. Issue
Saturday morning 0720 I flew down to Lancaster, TX airport to eat
breakfast. Checked in with approach and got cleared into Class B
(hoping for a flight over the top of KDFW). Didn’t get it and the
restaurant was closed (vacation) if you can believe my awesome luck.
;^) Used the powder room and hopped back in the plane. Called
up approach again and this time asked for a ‘photo pass over KDFW’.
Granted! Flew over my old workplace in Las Colinas, then over the
top of DFW from east to west at 4,000’. Jets taking off and landing
underneath me. How cool!
took a few pictures, landed, texted Monk to see if he was around
(0830) and we drove over to Justin for breakfast at the Lonesome
Spur. Everything turned out fine, and I finally got to overfly KDFW
after nearly 16 years of having a flying RV.
Tuesday’s edition might be a little watered down (pun). I have my
first colonoscopy scheduled for Monday. Pushing out (again w/the
puns) the Monday edition early so I can take the prep med that turns
Estes 1/4A3-3T into a
Saturn V F-1.
I talked with Monk about saving some money with the camera he uses
to inspect engine valves with, but no dice.
Hope you had a nice weekend and I’ll let you know if the doc finds my
PS: If you’re my age and haven’t had a
colonoscopy yet, read
PSS: The new recommendation to begin screening
is age 45.
48 States in 7 Days - Day 2 ...larrynew RV-7A
Day 3 |
Build Status ...RV7ForMe
So on the second attempt I had to push the lip up
while pulling the pop riveter.
Worked out in the end but cost me about 30 min and
was completely unnecessary. Wont be doing that again
on the right flap!
First Start ...Claude Pitre
After fixing a couple small issues discovered
while pre-oiling my zero time IO-320, we got it
started up for the first time. Does that ever make
it feel like an airplane, don't have to make my own
airplane noises anymore. A couple of minor squawks,
lost my oil pressure sensor after start - came back
after shutdown, probably a loose connection. I've
got a bit of fuel leak at my fuel flow transducer
and my #4 CHT sensor is offline. Unfortunately, my
left fuel sender is still stuck on empty. The local
guy that I had build my engine was pretty pleased
with it, so that pleases me lots. Only ran it for a
few minutes, we'll give it another start in a few
days after fixing the issues we discovered. Planning
my final inspection for the week after next and if
that goes well, the RV-9 counter will be jumping up
by 1 in early July.
RvPilotLife_TR#2 ...Josh 9A
I recently had the
pleasure of flying twice to Madison to see Guil’s 9a
project. We also flew around. The trip up this last
time had some incredible cloud formations. Did a
quick blog on it. Hope you enjoy!
Razor Blade Trick ...snopercod
So today I used the razor blade trick to taper
down the new paint. It worked pretty well but I have
two recommendations. First, putting the razor blade
in a vice and using a steel rod to curl over the
edge seemed to work better than the 600 grit. I
tried it both ways. Second, be sure to put a small
piece of tape on the side facing you because it's
almost impossible to tell which edge has the curl.
Early heads up....Ironflight's
60th birthday (Louise post)
Save the date! We will have a birthday
breakfast/brunch fly-in at our place (A34) in Dayton
Valley Airpark, Nevada, on September 22nd. 8 am to
noon. No presents. All VAFers are welcome.
Obviously, more information closer to the date.
Build Update ...David Paule -3B
After making the titanium belly overlay, I
clecoed it in place. Forward is to the left. That
overhanging part is to allow for a rounded entry for
the air exit.
Build Update (RV-10)...1001001
June 8, 2018. Issue
car towed to the hangar with the help of a friend's trailer and Rob
Reece's 'Optimus Prime' truck (OP). Troubleshooting soon, and
thank goodness for friends.
Tate's summer began Thursday afternoon. He's washing OP Friday for
$$$ and interviewing for an airport mowing position (air conditioned
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend.
...Laura Starkey. "...this would
have been my dad’s 98th birthday. He was my
inspiration as a child to fall in love with flying.
He was a WW2 Navy pilot whose love for flying rubbed
off on me! Took his navy logbook with me on the
flight today. Dedicated to my dad’s memory!!!"
(Mike Starkey's better half - you know Mike....the
unofficial VAF greeter ;^) ). Congratulations
Sunday, May 27th, 2018
Up early for our second official day of the trip.
The Travelodge was quiet and comfy and we got a good
night's sleep after watching NBA basketball. After a
drive-through breakfast of McDonald's bacon, egg and
cheese biscuits it was an easy drive back to the
airport. Today will take us to California, Oregon,
Washington, Idaho, Montana and North Dakota. Here
are the bomb bunkers leaving Hawthorne
Best way to fix this dumb mistake?
....his words. While working on the flap
positioner, running the flaps up, the plug on an
extension cord wedged between the flap and upper
skin resulting in these dents. Don't really have a
way to get inside the flap to push it out, so was
wondering if anyone had some repair suggestions?
jamesdavid <$100 Arduino/Bluetooth/GoPro Mount Sensor Pod
Last year, for EAA's Founder's Innovation Prize
competition, I made a < $100 sensor pod with an
Arduino variant connected to a differential pressure
sensor, with Bluetooth to an iOS App. The general
idea was that the pod would attach to a GoPro style
mount and provide pitot static data to an iOS device
and cost about as much as a "Stratux" DIY device,
but for pitot-static and other flight data instead
I did not get selected by the EAA -- other similar
things were selected to present during AirVenture.
However, other than the $2000 Levil BOM Pod, I have
not seen anything further in this space, and nothing
further from the other EAA Founders Prize Finalists.
I have not tested it in flight (I just got a
steam-gauge RV-6A that I may try this out on once I
get transition training and comfortable with the
airplane), but, when I saw this thread, I figured I
would share this for educational/discussion purposes
from 'Big Toot' First Flight Wednesday
Five Hour Phase One ...Iron
Yesterday I completed the shortest Phase 1 flight
testing program I have ever done - it was for a
neighbor's ELSA RV-12, an airplane I have been
watching him build for the past five years.
June 7, 2018. Issue
Milestone: 5,000 Hours ...turbo RV-6A
i finally passed the 5,000 hour mark on my trip
yesterday from FL to CT. it was a great flying day
of mostly vfr wx and some ifr challenges in the
NY-CT area but my old faithfull rv did it again and
again and again. thought i would catch the hobbs
turning over and get a screen shot or note where i
was but it didn't happen. landed about 4 tenths
later at mount olive NC, w40, rnav 05 coupled ap
synthetic vision in severe clear conditions.
squeeked it on as usual, rolled to mid field and
turned off. topped off with 31 gallons and continued
as usual. glad you are all here to share the moment.
be safe out there and enjoy those blue skys and wet
see you guys tomorrow at jafrey nh for lunch.
...ppowers in Kingsport, TN. RV6 N46WP flew
for its first flight today.
Day 1 - Saturday, May 26th, 2018 ...larrynew
We departed Dumas, Texas early on the first
official day of our attempt to visit 48 states in 7
days. Today, we visited Oklahoma, Kansas, Colorado,
New Mexico, Arizona, Utah and spent the night in
Can’t get oil gurgle after 10 months idle ...Jim McCarter RV-12
My RV-12 Rotax 912 has not been started for 10
months while doing ACI, brake job, satisfying SB’s,
etc. l recently thought it would be a good idea to
turn the prop by hand to pump the oil back into the
oil canister. (A fresh oil change was done just
before my final flight 10 months ago). Well, the
first thing I noticed when I started turning the
prop was that the engine compression seemed low. I
kept turning the prop - about 100 revs - and I never
could get the “gurgle”. Can someone explain what is
going on an tell me what to do. I don’t intend to
try starting the engine until I’m sure everything is
back to normal.
‘Big Toot’ Flies ...
Not RV, but neat and close to home! I had
the distinct pleasure of witnessing the Tommy Meyers
and Phil Witt designed ‘Big
Toot’ put air under its tires for the first
time. S/N 1 aviated Wednesday morning at 52F
around 0630 with Gary Platner at the controls.
Randy Richmond flew chase in an RV-8 with me as
ballast. Took a few pics while Randy and Gary
talked about more important stuff (anything falling
off?, etc). Some teaser shots while I process
the take. I'll have a folder up later in the
Congratulations Tommy, Phil, Gary and the
rest of the gang who helped this become reality.
'Little Toot' now has a brother...
First Post, Couple of Questions on RV-10
So I haven't yet made the official jump on
purchasing a kit. From what I can tell I think we
(it'll be a family affair) will be ready to start in
about 2 years. I'm gathering as much research as
possible to help prepare ourselves for the marathon
A little about my family and I: My wife loves flying
and so do my two little ones (2.5y/o twins (boy and
girl)). My son is OBSESSED with airplanes (he wears
my GA magazines out before I can read them) and my
wife wants to get her PPL. We take up our AA5B Tiger
about twice a month to get pancakes and during the
cooler months we fly to CA to visit the in-laws and
my brother and sister-in-law (2 hrs flying vs 5.5
driving). I'm a corporate pilot by trade and have a
ton of free time on my hands (kids take a lot of
that up for now). I'm also an A&P and really enjoy
working on my airplane when the need arises. As an
aside I went to A&P school after the Air Force and I
noticed that I really excelled in sheet metal and
thoroughly enjoyed working with it (composites were
okay), which really led me down the RV route versus
Velocity. My mission requirement is a 4 place
aircraft with the range to make most of the west
coast possible from AZ (including over mountain
treks). I honestly believe the Vans community is
where I want to hang my hat with and I look forward
to pressing on with a family project.
A couple of questions:
1. Does someone have actual experience to compare
the AA5B and the RV-10? Numbers clearly look
superior for the RV-10 in terms of speed and
payload, how do they differ in flying?
2. How do you successfully finance the build? I know
I can sell my AA5B for around $65k, of which I have
around $35-40k in equity. I'm a corporate pilot (in
light jet category) so I don't make 20 year Delta
Airlines pay, but I do okay and the future is bright
in terms of compensation growth. How much can you
finance? I understand the RV-10 will cost around
$120-160k to build out the door, I'll likely go with
the slow build because my wife wants to be a big
part of the project and we can save some there. I
know I'll want a EFIS IFR panel, but I'm okay with a
modular approach to avionics.
3. Has anyone built an RV with their little ones?
I'd like to shoot around 4.5-5y/o for my kids to
start to help. I'm sure my son would be super
interested and I'd like to get my daughter hooked on
something STEM related at a young age. Obviously I'm
planning on them being 8-9 by the time we are
finished (assuming a 3-4 year build time).
4. Any pieces of sage advice to give to someone who
is planning on a build with the family? I'm sure
there's quite a few out there who had the chance to
build with their family members.
5. Anyone in the Phoenix area with an RV-10 who
would be gracious enough to give a demo flight? I'd
happily pitch in for some fuel. I'd like to be able
to compare notes and really get to know the aircraft
before I start shooting rivets.
All the best,
Mystery Runway ...Vlad
Tight spot in a picturesque valley. Any idea
June 6, 2018. Issue
Susie's car wouldn't start Tue afternoon (she volunteers at Medical
City Denton) so I spent a chunk of the afternoon/evening getting her
home and squared away in Audrey's Honda. I *might* have
a trailer lined up, but if that falls through I thought it a good
idea to 'Ping the Force' locally for a trailer to get the car from
the hospital to 52F so I can work on it (17.9 miles - map at right).
A guess is fuel pump - 240,000 miles. Let's hope that simple
Unrelated, the VERY nice sunrise we had in DFW Tuesday - took two pics
before driving out to the field.
Ground Shot ...Simon remembering a friend.
First Flight ...Robert M
As of 8am this morning, (June 5), RV-9 N556RM,
made its first flight at the Chester Catawba
Regional airport in South Carolina.
The plane performed as expected for a Van's Aircraft
Wind was from the North at 4mph, temperature was 65
degrees, barometric pressure was 29.89. Took off,
climbed to pattern altitude at 100mph, made the
turns in the pattern, throttled back, flaps at
80mph, got 70mph on final, the mains touched, very
slight hop, mains back down - stuck, tail dropped a
short time later, taxied back to hangar.
What a glorious day! She flies!
Started this project in April 2006, first flight 12
years and 2 months later.
'Bought dern time!
Jam nuts :( ...Vic
am about ready to start a movement like Nancy
Reagan's "just say No to drugs", only mine is going
to say "Just say NO to loose jamnuts!"
I thought I had started a thread on this some time
ago, but I can't find it right now, so you get to
hear me again.
I performed a prebuy on an RV-10 today that has been
flying for 8 years. So that's an Airworthiness
inspection, and at least 7 Condition Inspections,
and amongst the 800 hours, hopefully some preflights.
I found 7 loose jamnuts on the tail surfaces! They
had never been tightened, as there was no scoring on
the mating surfaces. I just reached in with my
fingers and turned them.
So, please go check your jamnuts on your next
preflights. This is a high stress area to begin
with, with a SB even being issued across most of the
models for cracking around the nutplate rivets.
Perhaps someone on this forum can set up a poll that
says "I have checked my aircraft jamnuts." It would
be interesting to see if we could achieve 100% in
the next year.
Added Screaming Eagle Tailwheel to Original Small RV-3 Spring
Thanks to Blake and Vince at Flyboy Accessories.
I talked them into making the option to have a
tailwheel socket with a smaller inside diameter so
the original RV-3/4 small diameter taper springs
could be modified to a full swivel Screaming Eagle
tailwheel. That was about 18 months ago and I just
now got around to adding the modification to my
The smaller ID of the socket is 33/64" yielding a
thicker wall thickness of the socket as it is the
same OD as the standard one. This requires machining
a 2" area off of the spring to a constant 33/64"
diameter to fit the socket. Flyboy also has a
similar modification for the RV-4 that utilizes the
standard socket as the RV-4 spring has a larger OD.
Classic Aero Designs Power Outage 6/6/18
We just got word this morning that the Power company
will be replacing a power pole out here at the
airport that feeds several buildings including ours.
I'm not sure what to do except to try to get word
out to our customers the best I can. I'm sure the
city knew about this sooner than they told us, but
not a lot we can do about it now.
They are saying from 9:30AM to 3:00PM PST. We moved
our business to the airport about 10 years ago, and
we've never had anything like this before
If it's okay with Doug, I'll probably bump this once
or twice just to let a few more of our customers
know what's up.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
Classic Aero Designs
RV-4 Progress Report ...MS1095
Making progress...There has been a lot to fix
along the way, but it is finally starting to come
RV-10 Rudder Trim ...how 9GT did his
I used the hinge method with a Ray Allen servo.
Hard to see in the photo but the servo is mounted on
the inside of a removable access panel to the left
of the threaded rod fairing. I installed during the
build but it still would be an EZ retrofit to a
flying plane with minimal paint touch-up. IIRC I
used about 10" of hinge and That would give a little
over a full ball either side. I found it an
invaluable accessory on my -10, especially with
various loading and winds aloft.
Plane Ownership & Complacency
I see this often since I spend so much time now
at the airport hanger working on my -9A. (KGDW is a
very nice rural airport but has little activity) I
see so many pilots who own their own planes do a
VERY limited pre-flight inspection, if they even
bother to do one at all! Last weekend on Sunday took
the cake for me. I could not believe what I had
witnessed. The owner drove in, opened his hanger,
pulled out his plane, (not an EXP), closed his
hanger up, hopped in, started his engine and
immediately began to taxi. He did not even bother to
use the taxi-way. Cut across the grass to the runway
and just took off. No pre-flight inspection, no
run-up or mag check,,,,nothing! Not even a radio
call! About an hour later an incoming plane
announces his position and intentions and advises
their is a second incoming plane with inoperative
radio, his buddy who took off earlier. I think a lot
of people who own their own planes feel since they
are the only ones flying the plane, they know it
well enough to get away with this type of stuff.
Pic from 'Mr. X'
FOD Walk Take ...52F 6/5/18 0800 (Monk and me)
June 5, 2018. Issue
Interesting 'Follow Me' Vehicle
Michael...RV-10 HB-YNN (Switzerland)
"I took the family in our RV-10 to Bologna/Italy and
was quite surprised to be lead by the most stylish
'follow me' car ever."
enlarge / see whole picture
10,000th RV at Oshkosh ...mothership
"This year we celebrate the 10,000th RV completed
and flown. Van’s Aircraft will have this RV-7 built
by David Porter on display at the homebuilt area
close to Boeing Plaza. There will be room for ten
RVs to join David’s RV-7. We would like to have
one of each model
from the Van’s lineup on display for most of, if not
all week. If you would like to have your RV on
display contact Sterling at Van’s at Sterling (sterling
48 States in 7 Days - Overview & Day 0
With the plane finished and well tested, we wanted a
signature trip. Why? The adventure, the challenge,
the quality time with father and son. And, to beat
our uber-competitive family members racing to visit
all 50 states.
The plan was to fly to and land in all 48 lower
states in our Van's RV-7A airplane and put our feet
on the ground at each stop and take a picture, not
just a touch and go. And do it in 7 days! In an
airplane we built in the garage!!
I’ve been pink-slipped! ...sbalmos
It’s a funny feeling when the day finally comes.
A bittersweet feeling in a way. The end of an era.
Some even say that it really is easier if it happens
on a Monday rather than a Friday. And after 6.5
years in this same position, I had a feeling this
event would happen to me at one point or another. I
guess it really is time to move on and try out a new
... I’VE BEEN GIVEN A PINK SLIP!!!
RV Builder/Pilot Gets Interviewed About Previous
Job ...MCC Flight Director
'Ironflight' Dye (RV-3/6/8)
"Thought that you might be interested in these - the
EAA put up the
video of my talk at the museum (an hour long)
podcast audio interview “The Green Dot” that is
about forty minutes. Just telling stories of MCC...."
7A 'Rebirthing' Update ...kentlik
I have a gig starting tomorrow so might be the
last post for a little while, and not much of one at
Need to cut canopy sides about here:
Pics from ‘Mr. X’: Aspen and Leadville
June 4, 2018. Issue
First Flight Pics ...Chris Engler
RvPilotLife Trip Report #1
It was time to take the RV on it’s first x-cntry
trip with my wife. We chose a shorter trip to see
how she performed. It beat all our hopes and
expectations, but that’s not surprising given the
Made a little blog with a cool video descending into
Chicago the way home. Hope you enjoy reading.
Milestone: Initial Wing Fitting
Another milestone: initial wing fitting. Van's
matching of the QB wings and fuselage really paid
off; overall it went very smoothly. Thanks to four
of the PTK gang (from left to right): Curt Martin,
Dave Pohl, Terry Kohler and Ted Gauthier for their
Round the World in a RV-9A
I have been very busy preparing N944JK for her round
the world (RTW) journey, and I am finally ready.
Tomorrow, I will depart Concord, CA heading east on
a flight around the world in my Vans RV-9A. The
route covers: US, Canada, Greenland, United Kingdom,
Italy, Greece, Jordan, Bahrain, UAE, Pakistan,
India, Sri Lanka, Malaysia, Indonesia, Australia,
Vanuatu, American Samoa, Kiribati, Hawaii and
Concord. The first leg will be non-stop 1500 nm from
Concord, CA to Oshkosh, WI.
The plane was completed in 2015 and it took 9 years
to build. It has flown 280 hours since then and has
visited 17 states and Oshkosh in 2016.
I wish to thank the following RTW pilots: Jon
Johanson (RV-4), Manuel Queiroz (RV-6) , Hank Cheng
(RV-8) and William Randolph (RV-8) for providing
inspiration, guidance, and answering my many
questions about preparation and the logistics of
flying around the world. Many RV pilots at Concord (KCCR)
also helped me along the path: Ed Neffinger, Bill
Black, and Ernst Freitag. Thank you!
My web site and blog are located at: https://memoryflightrtw.weebly.com
If any VAF members are around, I would be delighted
to meet you when I pass through KOSH or KMPV.
I will try my best to update you as I go.
At this stage, the plan is as follows (U.S.):
June 1-2: KOSH (Oshkosh, WI)
June 3: KMPV (Montpelier, VT)
June 5: KBGR (Bangor, ME)
I hope meet some of you en-route!
Charity Hat Sighting: Day Job Video
This is basically my day job, so watch for the
hat sighting in our little video produced for a
Microsoft Developer Conference we just had:
Milestone: First Start
First start today, woohoo!
Fairly uneventful except there was an odd CHT/EGT
issue on #3.
In the first 10-15 seconds the CHT shot up to 1000
degrees then a big red X appeared.
The EGT never went above 400 #3.
All the others leveled right out as expected.
The physical temps by touch were about the same for
#3 as the others, didn't have a temp gun with me.
If it was just one of the sensors I would think just
a bad sensor/wiring problem but both is throwing me
Does anyone have any suggestions or ideas before I
Not very helpful but here's a pic after I shut it
down and was cooling, the sensor recovered, didn't
think to take a pic while it was running.
Follow on video, first year and paint
I forgot to post
this last week....if anyone is interested, I have a
follow on video to the documentary about building
the RV-12. This covers my first year of flying,
including some upgrades to the plane and the
painting process. This one is only 18 minutes, so
people are much less likely to fall asleep
RV-Lancair Brotherhood Day
The monsoon season finally let up after two weeks
of solid rain, so Darwin and I took the opportunity
to fly to GMU for lunch and to get some photos with
the EAA B-17:
Public Service Announcement about buying airplane "parts". ...Mel
Recently there have been notices for sale of
"parted out" aircraft being sold without
registration and/or airworthiness certificates. Be
aware that, with the possible exception of
Experimental-Exhibition, there is currently no path
to legally "recertify" an aircraft of this type.
To certificate an amateur-built aircraft, one must
show proof that more than 50% of the aircraft was
built by amateurs. An ELSA would not meet this
To certificate as an ELSA, one must show
documentation from the kit manufacturer, that the
aircraft was built from a certified ELSA kit (by
A few of the parts from an aircraft of this type
might be used on an amateur-built aircraft but some
sort of proof of compliance with the 51% rule must
AirVenture 2018 Homebuilt Patch Honors Van’s Aircraft
Pic from 'Mr. X'
...Canyon El Grande
June 1, 2018. Issue
Wishing you and
yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend.
Sam Daniels and daughter enjoying the 6A. 52F.
Rusty pilot with dusty RV-6 seeks advice/assistance
I am a longtime lurker who finds myself with more
free time than I’ve had in years … time to
(finally!) once again become proficient, well
equipped, and start chasing some long-deferred
First the pilot … I earned my ticket 30 years ago,
flew a hundred hours or so, then jobs, family,
houses, moves, kids in college happened. Now – newly
retired, with the last kid a senior in college I
have the time and money to reconnect with the
wonderful world of aviation. I have recently earned
a Glider rating and am having fun learning to fly
again. I have virtually no tail-wheel time and will
be essentially starting over with an instructor in
power craft soon. I live in Tampa, FL.
Next, the plane … a very nice, basic, RV-6 with an
fixed pitch 0-320 and a full panel of lovely steam
gauges inherited from my father. Its an original
slow build constructed lovingly by my father and a
partner … both now “gone west”. First flight – and
Phase I flown off in 2009 and 2010. My father’s
medical condition prevented further enjoyment. The
plane has been in (careful) storage since … pulled
out occasionally for a ground run to move the oil
around. It was maintained in annual until 2016, but
now needs a battery and Condition Inspection (and I
hope not too much else other than a pilot!). The
plane lives (for now) at an air park near Houston.
Documentation is complete in all respects.
Finally, the plan…
1). Get the future pilot (me) competent with an
instructor in/near Tampa … ideally in a tailwheel
2). Complete a condition inspection in Houston.
Ideally with someone well experienced with RV’s.
While I provided occasional help bucking rivets, my
father built the plane (his second after a previous
Long-EZ) with a building partner. I see the
workmanship as good to excellent, but don’t feel
either competent or well positioned to judge. My
primary interest is to be sure the plane is safe and
also possibly learn what improvements might be made
(or more modern options may be beneficial).
3). Have a competent pilot ferry the plane from
Houston to Tampa.
4). Complete transition training in an RV6 – Ideally
this one (!) if there is a willing and competent
instructor in the area – or in another RV with an
instructor experienced in transition training.
5). Hours consumed VFR happily turning avgas into
smiles, pursuit of the $100 hamburger, maybe share
the RV grin with a few young eagles.
If you’ve bothered to read this far, you can help
a). Any advice, suggestions, or encouragement – I
appreciate fully that I have MUCH to learn.
b). Recommendations for an instructor near Tampa –
bonus points if he/she would be interested in
ferrying the plane, double points if willing and
able to provide transition training in it once here.
c). Recommendations for someone to do an (extensive)
Condition Inspection in Houston and make
recommendations – beyond clear airworthiness needs
if any – on how the plane could be improved/made
safer/more reliable. Major enhancements (eg Glass
panel) not anticipated.
d). Recommendations for transition training in/near
Tampa. Is it feasible to find an RV experienced CFI
that would be willing to do instruction in my plane?
Is this insurable? Is a LOA required?
Recommendations of third parties appreciated via the
forum for all to see, interested principals are
welcome to PM me directly if preferred.
Thanks in advance,
June Wallpaper Calendar
I went artsy fartsy this month....how the shadow
adds depth and character to the fuselage made my
eyebrow lift. From the 'VAF Drone' at
the cave. BTW, this RV-8A is for sale by a
person at my field. Call Randy Richmond (817)
4 Zero 1 - 8 Zero Nine 6 if interested for pics and
"It's difficult to enter into this work because
of how the optical suggestions of the facture
notates the distinctive formal juxtapositions."
- Instant Art Critique Phrase Generator (link)
FOD. Day III
Mashy and Monk's 0700 finds in 'FOD 1'.
A more comfortable ride in turbulence-
Although I'm hopeful that the current round of
physical therapy will help my spinal issues, there's
no hope that my spine will ever again be good for
more that 2 Gs (five level fusion, L1-L5, and
additional recent symptoms). And the other day, it's
newest complaint was whining in moderate turbulence
(enough that the downdrafts would lift you out of
the seat a little, but not slam your head into the
canopy.) The sharp edged updrafts were the
So what to do about getting a better ride in
* I talked to the good folks at OregonAero, and
their suggestion was to make sure that I wasn't
slouched over in the seat. I climbed into the -9A on
the ground, and guess what I was doing? Yup, was
slouching, but when I sat up straight, my upper arm
was pressed against the side rail;
* Fly slower. The RV-9A has adequate speed for cross
country, but I'd hate to have to slow down whenever
it got bumpy;
* Get a faster plane and fly it slower. That could
be a -7A, -10, or -14A. I've already been spoiled by
the Garmin G3X touch system for IFR, and that's $40K
to replicate in a new plane. The -7A has the same
fuselage as the -9A, but I could slow it down to
RV-9A speeds. The one time I tried, the -10 seemed
heavy enough that I probably shouldn't try pushing
it on the ground. RV-10s are also pricey, as are
RV-14s which are rare on the market. An -8A is a
possibility, but the ride in turbulence is not good
for the back seater, and I don't know that the G3X
yaw damper will work on an -8A.
* Get a (horrors!) spam can with springs in the
Hate to do it, but the time has come to sell the
RV-8, which I love to fly. And the -9A is also a
candidate for replacement if I find a reasonable
alternative. At this point, however, the easiest
solution is to keep the -9A and slow down in
Anybody got any better ideas, other than turning the
clock back a decade or so? Surely other folks have
gone through this, or very similar...
RV-8 (steam gauges), RV-9A at KSAV (Savannah, GA;
dual screen G3X with autopilot, GTN 650)
Previously RV-4, RV-8A, AirCam, Cessna 175
Seen at Richmond Aviation (Monk's)
Cool little wire clips from Summit racing Randy
is using to clean up the wiring install on an RV-8
in the shop.
RV-10 Milestone: Fuselage kit!
I received my fuselage kit yesterday and have
been working my way through the inventory
sheets...Now I just have to finish up these wings
Summer Office ...ENGAGE
At the Van Cave after the morning workout, I'm
too lazy to move the portable cooler over to the
couch. And there is no table over there
anyway, so I clamped a board to the tail lift and
just use the weight bench as a chair. Blower
keeping me conscience at far left. It's going
to be 100+ all next week.
comfortable. Not so much two feet to the side.
I was landing yesterday at Byron
with turbulent winds coming down off the Altamont
mountains at 38 gusting to 44 KT from 200º, making
runway 23 the favorable one with a crosswind
component of 19-22KT. It was a bumpy landing, but
mostly a non-event in the Baron.
However, I'm getting ready for my airworthiness
inspection and hoping to be flying soon - which made
me consider about crosswinds in the RV12. I've read
other posts about it, and obviously the Van's POH
that states 12 KT max crosswind and 35 max total
How would you think the RV12 would handle landing in
yesterdays winds on RW23?
SERVICE BULLETIN 18-05-21 for Fuel Injected Lycoming Installations
Installation of plug in fuel spider gauge port
Another "Special" RV for sale. ...Mel Asberry
Ann & I don't do much cross country any more, so
the RV-6 is going up for sale. February condition
inspection. Will open up for pre-buy inspection.
RV-6 Tip-Up $73,500
Built by Mel & Ann Asberry, 1989-1993.
1126 hrs. TT, Empty weight 1040 lbs., Day/Night VFR.,
Lycoming O-320-E3D, 9.5:1 compression, Roller rocker
arms, (Aprox 172 hp).
850 SMOH, Dual impulse mags, Service bulletins
complied with. Feb 2018 Annual.
Catto 3-bld w/NLE & Screwless Spinner, 2 spare
props, Catto 3-bld (climb), Sensenich Wood.
Hotel/Whiskey Extended Range Fuel Tanks (47 gals
GRT Sport EX EFIS w/Safe-Fly 2020 GPS (new).
Garmin GNC 300XL com(1)/gps, Xcom com(2), Trig
transponder. ADS-B out compliant.
Electronics International engine analyzer (UBG-16),
fuel flow/pressure, dual fuel level.
TruTrak Vizion 380 2 axis autopilot.
Dual Brakes. Manual Flaps and Trim. Nice canopy
cover that covers cabin vents.
“Best All Metal” S&F, “Outstanding Homebuilt” S&F.
“Grand Champion” All American Sport Aviation Fly-In.
“Mechanical Excellence Award” EAA 168. and More.
Serious inquires only please.
May 31, 2018. Issue
Heads up Texas.
TFRs 5/31 (Thu)
Houston: 1515Z - 2015Z
Dallas: 2015Z - 2330Z
Geysers ...Vlad the Amazing
On a Yellowstone tour. Old Faithful was still
packing the steam for eruption we couldn’t wait for
too long. Grand Prismatic was awesome.
Another RV8 First Flight
After 5 1/2 years the airplane and I had a near
perfect first flight yesterday! Winds were calm,
some rain showers had passed through and the
afternoon high temps had cooled to mid 70s. After
some marathon sessions at the hanger these past few
weeks tweaking, checking, rechecking, by around 6:30
PM yesterday, I had that strange "there's nothing
left to do" feeling so I called the camera crew (aka
my wife), pushed it out of the hanger, and did the
Started the engine, taxied to the end of the runway,
completed the mag check and takeoff checklist. With
everything in the green, took the active and
advanced the throttle. The airplane tracked
perfectly and with about 60 mph indicated, nudged
the stick back and it was airborne! The thing that
surprised me the most was how solid everything
felt....zero need for trim on either axis and just
locked on the heading. Got to about 5000 feet in
very little time and throttled back to check
response at slow cruise - all good. Then slowed down
to low 60s with flaps to check slow speed
handling....again, completely straight and
predictable. After 20 minutes or so, went back to
the airport to set up an approach. Bounced a bit on
the first landing (the typical pulled power to idle
early and flared a bit too soon) but a blip of
throttle settled it in. What amazing airplanes these
Went back out today and flew to a couple of local
airports and filled the tanks....a couple hours in
and feeling very comfortable.
One of the things I was concerned with during the
build was cooling. The engine is an XP 400 but
between the large oil cooler using the RV10 firewall
mount and tight fitting baffles, the highest temps
I've seen on climb out is around 190 (ambient temps
around 80 today).
Of course some thanks are in order....first to this
great community for providing the massive knowledge
base to help with those head scratching moments. I
don't have any active builders nearby but help was
always only a post or search feature away. Not sure
if a day has gone by during the build that I wasn't
logged on at some point. Next, a big Thank You to
Bryan and Showplanes. I used his fastback conversion
and cowl and have been delighted with both products.
More than that, I've lost track of the number of
times we chatted over the past 5 years (even RV8
questions not related to his products). Whenever I'd
call I get hear the same steady and calming voice
offering years of wisdom from one of the great
builders....never rushed and happy to send pics to
help explain his answers.
Lastly and most importantly a BIG Thanks to my wife!
Regardless of all of our lots in life, building and
airplane is a big commitment in terms of both time
and money and I was very fortunate to have complete
support in both regards.
If the weather cooperates, hoping to get the 40
flown off in time to see some of you and Oshkosh
I'll see if I can get some pics posted soon...and
change my signature from "Under Construction" to
Chris Engler, Greene, NY
Longeron and F-01234 match drilling ...-12
On page 23-02 step 5 the forward edge of the
F-01234 needs to be flush with the marked line on
the longeron. Before match drilling. I decided to
put the outside of the forward edge of the F-01234
flush with the outer point of the line on the
longeron. And kept going. But maybe I made a mistake
doing it that way?
Baggage compartment shelf...Ed W. update
So it's almost done.
Very similar to what Noel suggested, I have a
U-channel atop the longerons just forward of the
lower baggage bulkhead, but it transfers no loads to
the bulkhead. Rather, I have a screw through the
U-channel, bulkhead and the upright in the center of
the plane to carry vertical loads in the center, and
on the edges, the U channel rests on the longerons.
No, I'm not concerned about negative G loads. At
least, I sure hope I don't need to be.
At the front, the plywood rests on the crossmember
supporting the seat backs. And in the middle, I have
a piece of hardware store angle that rests on the
longerons and is yet to be glued to the plywood.
And although I haven't yet figured out how to
support it so that I can reach it in flight, this
design will allow a cutout or a slot for an oxygen
bottle ahead of the rear bulkhead.
Materials: one piece of foam board to make a pattern
(would have been nice if the foam board was big
enough to cover more than just one side at a time),
a 2' x 4' piece of 1/4" plywood, a 4' piece of 1/2"
U channel, and a 4' piece of maybe 3/4 x 3/4 x 1/16"
angle. And one screw, washers, and a bolt.
Now for the real measure: four or five trips to the
hardware store, one to Walmart for the foam board,
and probably more time spent thinking about how to
do it than on actually doing it. And when I returned
the unused materials that supported all the aborted
ideas, they totaled $82.10.
Elevator Trim Tab Fold -- Acceptable?
I'm working on the LH elevator and trim tab and have
gotten the bends on the elevator itself and the
outboard tab pretty well done, but the inboard tab
has turned out somewhat "less perfect". That said,
I'm not certain that another go at it will
necessarily produce a much better outcome, and
considering that it will be covered in paint and
such, my gut is to just build on. That said, I
thought I'd ask your collective opinions before
A Day in the Life ...my home field.
Pictures from Wednesday at 52F.
FOD walk. 0630. Hand model Rob Reece.
FOD from yesterday afternoon. In the grass between
the runway and taxiway.
Track from morning .3 flight. Flew over
our friend Bob's house (sick) letting him
know the gang was thinking about him.
16L ILS at WIGZU (KAFW) to
missed then back.
Grump, Matt, Sid, Scorch 4-ship practice
Break at initial.
Deck (no stairs yet) at the new airport office.
Built by Carey Sharp.
May 30, 2018. Issue
Sid (7A) and Matt (6) in the Break
...I heard 'um coming up initial and got my phone
out in time. Had to sidestep a little there at
the break to keep them in view (they didn't move
laterally like a UFO) ;^)
Why a Regular F.O.D. Check Can Be A Good Idea
...found on the runway YESTERDAY at my home
field. Yesterday. And yes, that's a 13"
long piece of rebar.
Randy Richmond has volunteered to drive his golf
cart the length of the runway daily at 0630 with his
handheld checking for FOD. Randy found another
gas cap a couple of weeks ago.
Click either pic to
Strange discoloration on flywheel after prop removal
I removed my prop the other day to take it up to
Northwest Propeller for some edge work. After I got
back to the hangar, I decided to take off the
flywheel and change the alternator belt. To my
surprise, I discovered the two mating surfaces
between the flywheel and the crank where stained
(see below). The mating surfaces on the other side
between the flywheel and prop are clean.
This is off an RV-4 (1992) with about 850 hours on
the engine and 300 SOH (2008) on the prop.
While the stains look oily they are not. There is
very little build up and they are dry. Any ideas
about what is going on?
Finish kit has arrived!!! ...dwranda 9A
My finish kit was delivered today. I was a little
worried when I saw the crate since it had 3 holes in
the side. I took plenty of pics as I opened the
crate to check for damage. Luckily it looks like
everything is OK. I deleted the cowl since I am
going with the James version. Doesn't look like many
parts for over $6K. Super excited and a little
worried to get going on the canopy.
Pic from Mr. X
RV-12 Panel Update ...Ron Gawer
I'm going to be moving my airplane to the airport
in a couple weeks, but it's essentially done.
I meant to add that once I finished up, I found I
had to remove a little material at the upper
outboard corners of each display to prevent any
contact with the canopy bar. It would open and
close, but rubbed. Rather than trim the bar (allowed
in the drawings), I decided milling off a little
plastic easy. I meant to go back and put some black
paint on the corners, but just realized when I saw
the picture online that I forgot that. Anyway, I had
a "I have made fire" kind of moment when I turned it
on and it all actually works, including all of the
engine telemetry. Now, on to the actual engine
Milestone: 'The Cut' ...kentlik 7A 'Rebirthing'
May 29, 2018. Issue
(207) emails in the
'ol inbox. Digital tectonics seems to be pushing Mt. Email up
more than usual. I'm working on it...and the PMs...and good
morning. Hope you got some time with your RV this weekend.
Just painted ...pstraub
Flying a neighbor over Lake Camanche in Northern
New Rv-10 owner!!!wtb fuselage, wings
Hey guys I would like to introduce
myself. I’m Allen and I finally purchased a RV-10
empennage that is partially built. In a couple of
months I am going to order I’m thinking the fuselage
quick build kit before the wings. Before I order is
there anyone that is looking to sell a fuselage or
"First Flight: Journey to a Dream" a film my son did of my, well you
After a little over two years, I conducted my first
flight in N5427W, an RV-7. My son (a film student),
was good enough to video the experiance and create
this short film (only 6 minutes). I almost titled it
"Five of the Best Landings I Ever Made", but I
settled on "First Flight: Journey to a Dream."
Turn up the sound and enjoy!
Exhaust Spring Rubbing On Cowling Air Duct ...-12
The spring on the left front of the exhaust (just
below the #2 cylinder) has been rubbing the cowling
air duct. The rubbing has gone through the heat
shield and is now working on the fiberglass. The air
duct is dimpled to make room for the spring; but, in
my case, it looks like it could use another 1/8” to
3/16” of space to keep the spring and air duct from
rubbing together. This is the original exhaust
system on the 912ULS. This condition was found
during the 200 hour engine maintenance (replace
spark plugs, etc.).
I am thinking of cutting an oblong hole around the
spring’s mark on the air duct and fiber glassing in
a bubble to make more room for the spring.
Don't make this mistake installing the wheel fairings! ...-12
Page 36A-06. When installing the left outboard
main gear fairing bracket (U-00002 and U-00004) with
the long AN3-40A bolts, I broke off both bolts in
the holes in the axle. Sounds pretty dumb but here's
how it happened.
As I screwed the bolts in they became tight with
about 1/8" left to go. I was puzzled so I turned the
small 1/4" socket wrench carefully and then, snap,
the bolt broke off. I thought I had a bad bolt so I
carefully tightened the other bolt and it snapped
off as well.
I tried to drill out the bolt shanks but was
unsuccessful. I believe the problem is that the
holes in the end of the axle were not tapped deep
enough for the bolt. I bought a 10-32 tap and tapped
the other axle until the tap reached the bottom and
the AN3 bolts worked perfectly.
I spoke with Van's a couple time and they will send
me replacement bolts but for the axle, they referred
me to Matco. Matco asked me to send the axle back
and I don't know if they will charge be for a
replacement ($71 + shipping on their website).
So this is an easy mistake to make that could cost
you $100 and a couple weeks to fix so the moral of
the story is: if your bolt gets tight before it
should, STOP! Go buy the correct tap and tap it
deeper. That solution would have cost me $5.77 and
an hour of time.
Just because it's a machined part doesn't mean it's
Bogash RV-12 Adventure
Bob Bogash ferry flight of Don's RV-12 from Port
Townsend, WA to TX. Great reading and lots of
So, I had a friend who recently started flying
helicopters/seaplanes on St Thomas in the U.S. VI's.
He was joking around one day and said, "you should
fly the -7 down!". I had been itching for a change
of scenery. So, I decided to call his bluff and was
like, "alright!". The next day I had the customs
sticker on it's way in the mail.
Repeat Offender -- this time around is an RV-10
Hello again, VAF!
Long time, no write! I have built and sold and RV-7,
and fast forward several years, I am now a repeat
offender with a brand new RV-10 project. My family
has expanded since the -7, and the -10 is going to
be the perfect travel machine for the entire Johnson
We recently started the empennage, and I just
wrapped up drilling the vertical stabilizer skin to
the rib/spar structure. Making good, steady
progress, and I am absolutely loving being back at
it building again.
Anyway, please feel free to check out my progress at
the link in my signature. Thanks for still being
here and for being such a great community!
RV-8 and the Glad the Plane's Fixed Flight
With all of my recent maintenance issues
resolved, it was time to just go out and have fun.
Fortunately Sunday was a great day for it.
The second student-builder at Jennings County
High School soloed for the first time today. Thomas
Schuler is the Student Project Manager on our RV-12
build project. He did his 3 T/O's and landings in
fine style. Congratulations, Thomas! We have another
student about ready, and our 12 is nearing
Our students are our products; the plane is a
by-product. We are very pleased to see them chose
aviation as life-long careers, and we believe the
first two to solo, and the next in line (plus
several others) have done just that.
2018 OSH Social
60 days till Oshkosh! The Beer Fairy has again
dragged her butt up the basement stairs and declared
she was ready to party, so mark your calendar. It's
Monday evening, July 23rd, opening day at OSH.
Location is the back yard at 1366 W. Waukau, west of
the control tower, just outside the EAA gate.
Cedar Meadows 2018 Fly-In
A few video clips from yesterdays event. Note the
unique 'RV parking' sign !
Jim Thill worked his buns off last week keeping up
with the rain and growing grass. He had the runway
looking like a golf green. Way to go Jim!
First flight! and a question
Saturday before the big Florida storm hit I was
able to do a first flight. Everything went well with
no big surprises. One question: my pitch trim works
fine on the ground but in flight I found that at
cruise that it wouldn’t move past neutral to allow
me to trim it out completely. For some reason it
showed power going to the trim as I pushed the
switch but it wouldn’t move past neutral. Tried it
again on the ground and it worked fine. I have a VPX
system and I’ve input the positions with plenty of
space on each end of travel so not sure hat it is?
Any suggestions welcome.
Novel alternator circuit protection
I'm not sure if this qualifies as a safety item,
but it certainly is an oddball. Had an RV in our
shop for an unrelated issue that required cowl
removal, which led to us having a look around, and
we spotted this. The builder (not the owner of the
airplane) had installed an ANL current limiter base
in the B lead circuit for the alternator, but rather
than spend the princely sum of $15 or so for a
proper current limiter, the gadget in the photos
below was assembled from a combo of a blade fuse and
some brass sheet. Arguably the slow blow fuse shown
in the photos has similar, though not identical
properties to the current limiter that would fit in
the base, but still. Cheapskate or ...?
May 28, 2018. Issue
HEADQUARTERS GRAND ARMY OF THE REPUBLIC
General Orders No.11, WASHINGTON, D.C., May 5, 1868
i.The 30th day of May, 1868, is designated for the purpose of
strewing with flowers or otherwise decorating the graves of comrades
who died in defense of their country during the late rebellion, and
whose bodies now lie in almost every city, village, and hamlet
church-yard in the land. In this observance no form of ceremony is
prescribed, but posts and comrades will in their own way arrange
such fitting services and testimonials of respect as circumstances
We are organized, comrades, as our regulations tell
us, for the purpose among other things, "of preserving and
strengthening those kind and fraternal feelings which have bound
together the soldiers, sailors, and marines who united to suppress
the late rebellion." What can aid more to assure this result than
cherishing tenderly the memory of our heroic dead, who made their
breasts a barricade between our country and its foes? Their soldier
lives were the reveille of freedom to a race in chains, and their
deaths the tattoo of rebellious tyranny in arms. We should guard
their graves with sacred vigilance. All that the consecrated wealth
and taste of the nation can add to their adornment and security is
but a fitting tribute to the memory of her slain defenders. Let no
wanton foot tread rudely on such hallowed grounds. Let pleasant
paths invite the coming and going of reverent visitors and fond
mourners. Let no vandalism of avarice or neglect, no ravages of time
testify to the present or to the coming generations that we have
forgotten as a people the cost of a free and undivided republic.
If other eyes grow dull, other hands slack, and other hearts cold in
the solemn trust, ours shall keep it well as long as the light and
warmth of life remain to us.
Let us, then, at the time appointed gather around their sacred
remains and garland the passionless mounds above them with the
choicest flowers of spring-time; let us raise above them the dear
old flag they saved from hishonor; let us in this solemn presence
renew our pledges to aid and assist those whom they have left among
us a sacred charge upon a nation's gratitude, the soldier's and
sailor's widow and orphan.
ii.It is the purpose of the Commander-in-Chief to inaugurate this
observance with the hope that it will be kept up from year to year,
while a survivor of the war remains to honor the memory of his
departed comrades. He earnestly desires the public press to lend its
friendly aid in bringing to the notice of comrades in all parts of
the country in time for simultaneous compliance therewith.
iii.Department commanders will use efforts to make this order
By order of
JOHN A. LOGAN,
WM. T. COLLINS, A.A.G.
How To Observe Memorial Day
"We should guard their graves with sacred vigilance. All that the
consecrated wealth and taste of the nation can add to their
adornment and security, is but a fitting tribute to the memory of
her slain defenders. Let pleasant paths invite the coming and going
of reverent visitors and fond mourners. Let no vandalism of avarice
or neglect, no ravages of time testify to the present or the coming
generations, that we have forgotten as a people the cost of a free
and undivided Republic. If other eyes grow dull, and other hands
slack, and other hearts cold in the solemn trust, ours shall keep it
well as long as the light and warmth of life remains to us."
---General John Logan, General Order No. 11, May 5, 1868
The "Memorial" in Memorial Day has been ignored by too many of us
who are beneficiaries of those who have sacrificed their lives for
our freedom and liberty. Often we do not observe the day as it
should be, a day where we actively remember those Americans
including our ancestors, family members, loved ones neighbors and
friends who have paid the price for the blessings of liberty. You
can change this by doing the following:
•By wearing your Memorial Day Button from the first of May until
•By visiting cemeteries and placing flags or flowers on the graves
of our fallen heroes.
•By flying the U.S. Flag at half-staff until noon. Memorial Day is a
day of "National Mourning."
•By attending religious services of your choice.
•By visiting memorials.
•By participating in a "National Moment of Remembrance" at 3:00 PM
local time, to pause and think upon the meaning of the day and for
taps to be played where possible.
•By renewing a pledge to aid the widows, and orphans of our fallen
dead, and to aid the disabled veterans.
May 25, 2018. Issue
A group of us were
going to fly our RVs over to Breckenridge, TX to see the warbird
fly-in Saturday, but some sites/emails/calls confirmed a new policy:
no umbrellas (they allowed them last year). Since it's
forecast to be 97*F this weekend and there is
zero shade at that
airport, we'll fly somewhere else and eat. Skin Cancer
Avoidance 101. Can you imagine flying in and having to
sit/stand on an asphalt ramp in direct sunlight around 100*F all day
waiting for the airspace to open back up at 5pm so you can fly home?
We're crazy, but not that crazy. ;^)
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and shade-filled RV weekend.
RV-4 Refurb Update ...BruceMe
It's been while, time for an
update. The overhaul was a challenge, but I
have it back on the mount, all the parts are on and
I'm ready to time the mags and do a final check and
turn it over.
So far I've...
- Overhauled the engine
- Swapped fixed pitch for constant speed
- Switched to a Skytec starter for weight
- Fabricated a blue-anodized prop lever
- Repaired a leak in the left fuel tank
- Repaired a lose (finger tight) vent line _inside_
the left tank
- Added a return line to both tanks
- Re-plumbed all fuel lines from the fuel tanks to
- Swapped the stock brass fuel valve for nice
- Wired the fuel-level sensors to the G3X and
removed the old fuel gauges
I'm going to Bill Gill look it over once as well.
But I plan to put it back and get some hours on it
before I do the canopy or the new cowl (which I
Pics and video from Wisconsin Celebration of Life for Tom Irlbeck
...Alex Peterson post
Here are some updates, pictures and video from
this past Saturday's Celebration of Life event at
Tom's hangar in WI. There was a similar event in FL
last month. Tom really had a profound effect on
many, many people, both in and out of aviation.
Eagle's Nest Projects - EN-19 Montgomery HS (TX) - Inaugural 1st Flight
...R.E. 'Ernie' Butcher
Eagle's Nest Projects
Saturday, May 19, 2018 - KCXO
Montgomery High School (TX) celebrates the inaugural
1st flight of "Bear Force One". The celebration was
a community event with over 200 in attendance and
the high school marching band added to the
excitement. Following remarks from school and city
dignitaries, the Eagle's Nest student-built aircraft
(EN-19) was officially unveiled and then followed a
drawing to see which students would receive the
"first flights". The weather was outstanding and the
event was a huge success.
Rocky Mountain Crossing PIREP...Smokey Ray for Vlad
I've crossed the Rockies and landed at Leadville
too many times to count. I normally did it as a
proving point for delivering new RV owners airplanes
as to the capabilities (and limitations) of the
design. They also have cheap gas.
As far as crossing, early morning or late evening
near sunset is always better. I actually like
crossing the Front Range further south. I
stop at KLHX (La Junta). http://www.airnav.com/airport/KLHX
1. Nice former military field with big ramp and
2. They have 2 courtesy cars that they have always
let me keep overnight.
3. Great (cheap) Mexican food in town next to
4. Cheap (relatively speaking) Self Serve 100LL.
5. Easy climb out distance to 12,500' following I-50
up the Pueblo Valley over Fremont.
Leadville is a great stop and overnight if you have
time. There is a great, old Hotel in downtown with
several good restaurants and a brew pub across the
street, all well above 10,000 feet MSL.*
PS: If you're absolutely set on the "landing box"
you posted, I like Longmont as a fuel stop.
PSS: *Warning: Use of alcohol is discretionary...;^)
Milestone: RV-14 Emp Kit Finsihed ...azflyer21
185.0 hours and I have completed the Empennage
kit, some fairing work remaining
RV-10 Cowling Heat Sheild ...Bill.Peyton install
ACS adhesive backed insulation
May 24, 2018. Issue
52F airport manager
Rob Reece running the rented roller Wednesday at my home field.
Smoothing out the grass areas, making the airport grass cutting
crew's job a little less off-road. Getting better all the
time! www.Fly52F.org is
our field's URL.
New RV-7A Owner Checks In ...Joe Kohn
Thanks to all of you that answered my ad when I
was looking for RV7A, 8A, or 9A a few weeks ago. I
found a pristine RV7A, that was right under my nose
and 15 minutes from my house in Arlington, Texas. I
love it and I am proud to show her off. I bought my
first RV a couple years ago, RV9A, and sold her and
regretted it ever since. I have already flown the 7A
almost five hours and there is nothing like it,
especially the Garmin G3X Touch. Looking forward to
Found During Condition Inspection ...bruceh 9A
I'm in the middle of doing my annual condition
inspection, so the wing tips were off again. I had
disconnected my J Pole antenna and put the APRS
antenna that I got with the tracker inside the wing
tip back several months ago. The changing of the
antenna solved the issue I was experiencing with
packets not getting heard. I was back to spitting
out packets reliably. When I did this change, I just
left the J Pole antenna in the wing tip (figuring I
might need to use it again if the other antenna
wasn't the solution).
I pulled out the J Pole antenna and found this on
RV-14 Flap Travel: Reflex ...Scott
RV-14 (and RV-10) have a custom designed airfoil
meant to reduce induced drag in level flight at high
speed cruise. The ailerons are rigged to match the
desired reflex shape of the airfoil but since the
flaps are movable, they can be moved out of the
reflex position. This essentially makes the wing act
like it has a bit more wing area, improving climb
The way we fly our RV-10's and 14's is to take-off
with whatever flap setting you choose (1/2 or zero),
and then position them to zero for climb.
Then position them to -3 as you level off and set
After decent and leveling off to enter the pattern,
return them to zero and then use flaps as desired
(within the limitations of Vfe)
In simpler terms - reflex position for cruise and
decent - zero for everything else.
We have G3X (with GAD27 module) in our RV-10 and had
no problem setting up the indicator for -3, 0, 15,
and 30 degrees.
...its specific to the airfoil
design and a reduction in induced drag.
Otherwise it would be beneficial to all the RV's,
regardless of what model."
Intersection Fairing, Rain and Birdsh*t Tape ...Steve Melton
"...the plane sat on the ramp in Wichita for 10
days while I painted my father's house. before I
departed I placed tape on the intersection fairing
thinking it would keep the rain out. it worked well
and it also kept all of the bird **** out too. you
would not believe all of the bird s h i t running
down the vertical stab.
cleaned. picture of the tape.
Customer Interior Shots ...Luke D
Here's another beautiful RV from France. Lot's of
nice features. Thank you for the pictures Alain!
Intel Wanted ...Vlad the Traveller
In couple days my buddy and I are westbound. I've
been over Denver couple times crossing the Rockies
back and forth but alone and I took the beating in
the middle of the day. This time I am going with
someone I would like to keep comfortable. Could be a
future RV owner. I am wondering what's the
reasonable overnight place would be in this
quadrant? I would like to jump the Rockies in
the morning heading to the highest elevation
Flight Data Systems News
(Charles Newman) "We have started producing the
LC-50 Lighting Controller again and would like to
make the VAF community aware it is now available.
for more info. "
Fuel Injection Star Wheel Adjustment
Q: Hi All,
My IO 320 D1A idles roughly and there is no rise in
RPM moving to idle cut off. This, and black smoke on
start, indicate it is running too rich idles at 700
RPM once warmed. I've read on carbs engines the
mixture adjustment needle is turned out one to one
and a half turns in most cases from closed. I have
moved the star wheel in the lean direction a number
of clicks (10) and still have rough idle and no
rise. Do I need to make several turns as opposed to
moving it clicks. Anyone able to give me a starting
distance between the two blocks where the star wheel
May 23, 2018. Issue
Pic From Mr. X
Mt. Rainer sunrise.
related: more Mr. X pics
RV-10 Seat Height Q/A
Q: I am playing around with panel layout (Rain
kept me from canopy top work).
However, I won't have my finishing kit for another
month or so. Therefore, I have no real way to gauge
seat height. Can someone give me an approximate
height of the seat cushion top from the seat base?
By base, I mean the rectangular .063 panel with all
of the lightning holes in it.
A: It depends.
You'll come to relish those times when you
can't work on the cabin top or doors, but do
something else instead
That seat height is a fuzzy measurement. It'll
depend on how much you squash the seat. The top of
the seat cushion is also not "flat" and not parallel
to the floor. Here's a couple of pictures that might
How To Build a Workbench ...David Paule
I've made eight of these so far. They all are
doing their job now. They are relatively easy to
make and go together quickly.
I use a circular saw and an electric
screwdriver/drill. The hand tools needed are mostly
a carpenter's square and some C-clamps. I like
Titebond II or III and use 4 deck screws at each
Mine differ by size, of course, and some have bolts
at the bottom for adjustment and the rest have
wheels. These minor details on yours, are left for
you. The only real comment is that if you install
wheels, get robust ones. The table for my ceramic
barbecue, a Big Green Egg, is highly loaded and the
urethane tires aren't lasting. The various tables
with metal wheels are all doing fine.
Very strange A/P problem - pls help me troubleshoot!
TruTrak Vizion 385 installed with Garmin GTN650
and HS43 module.
Was on a long cross country over the weekend and
discovered the AP will only hold course, not
altitude, gotta be the elevator servo or wiring
right - here's the kicker - elevator control still
works for fully coupled approaches!
Here's a breakdown:
1. Flying along, I select an altitude and vertical
speed, engage AP, course is flown, but no elevator
changes or fore/aft stick resistance to manual
2. I manually fly to the selected altitude and AP
displays the normal "approaching altitude" and
"altitude hold" messages but again, no exerts no
actual control of elevator, no servo hum or
resistance to moving the stick fore and aft -
doesn't matter if I select existing altitude or dial
in an ascent or descent or even if I just use wing
level feature - in cruise flight, not elevator
control is exerted by AP.
I thought it was possibly a bad elevator servo or a
bad connection to the servo but....
3. When on a RNAV approach, I was somewhat startled
when between IAF and FAF, (get glide slope
indication from GPS) the AP display switched from
ALT HLD to CPLD and the AP controled elevator servo
all the way down for a successful fully coupled
approach with vertical guidance.
This is 100% repeatable. No AP control of elevator
in cruise - but once vertical guidance comes from
GPS - boom it works.
So the servo is working - it's just not getting any
guidance except when coupled.
I sent an email to TruTrak too
Status: 7A Rebirthing ...kentlik
IFR Training Status ...Jeremy Constant RV-7A
This is all very timely for me. I started my
instrument training in Sept and it was put on hold
due to my 300xl dying. I'm in the middle of an
extensive rework of the panel with an ifd440
becoming my ifr GPS. It's a long slog.
In the process of thinking about equipment I
recalled several local folks who fly down to
Southern California reasonably regularly talking
about remarkably frequent GPS outages, where there
is essentially no GPS signal for significant amounts
of time. The theory is that there is GPS signal
jamming going on at one of several military
installations in the region and one or more of those
facilities is actually developing and testing
jamming technology. The point being that my sense of
warm and fuzzy surrounding the reliability of GPS
got a bit of a reality check and the importance of
ground based navigation was reinforced.
I'm still working on the panel installation and
rat's nest of wiring, but I think I am firmly in the
"putting it back together" phase, rather than the
"taking it apart" phase!
[ed. Who is Jeremy? He's the
with the violin. Gotta be in the top three
best VAF cap photos ever! v/r,dr]
May 22, 2018. Issue
I haven't flown the RV-6
from Dallas down
to Houston to see my sister in way too long. The opportunity
presented itself Monday to have lunch, and the Wx cooperated (as long as
got out of Houston by 1pm). Pretty clouds, a smooth ride,
167kts GS and 59*F at 8,500' on the return trip. Pretty dang
good burger at Clay's
just north of KIWS...and it's always good to see my Sis. How a
person could end up with a better sister is beyond me.
These RVs are amazing....and Donna Gail says hey to the RV gang.
Between layers and smooth.
3pm(ish). Back in Dallas well north of the action.
Adventures in the RV4
Two years of exploring America the beautiful in
our little, humble, but at the same time mighty RV4.
There are planes better for aerobatics, some faster,
some more comfy for XC, some more economical
(although not many!), but none will do ALL of these
things as well as the RVs! Becoming a pilot and
buying an RV was one of the most fulfilling things
I've done in my life. Looking forward to many more
years of enjoyment.
Bird Attack ...schristo RV-7
A club I didn't want to join...
Earlier this Spring, a red hawk at 2,800 feet, in
I saw the hawk just before the strike and thought it
would be a close miss…
Level the flight, radio call to route. Had the wings
look for visible damage and leaks then did initial
stability and control checks. All good.
Back on the ground it looks like we hit a bowling
ball. It could have been a real mess if it had come
through the windshield or taken out my tail.
I pulled the tank and started making a parts list.
The next morning, ROAD TRIP! to Vans to pick up
Two weeks after the strike... Back in the air!
Build it, fly it, maintain it, fix it
"Slow Rolls," a/k/a Competition Aerobatic Rolls, in the RV
Having a problem doing “slow rolls” (old terminology, now I believe
simply called “competition aileron rolls” by IAC) in the RV. Nose always
dropping too much, so thought I’d put this question out there for the RV
Yes, I know that when inverted you must push forward on the stick to keep
the nose from dropping. So the obvious answer might just be “push forward
more when inverted to keep the nose up.”
However, my impression is that the nose has already dropped too much by the
time I’m even getting to inverted. And I am suspecting the reason for that
is either (a) that I should have pitched up at the beginning of the roll, or
(b) that the rudder size on RV’s (in my case, the RV-4) is not enough by
itself to keep the nose up when in knife-edge flight. That’s where we get to
my question. Is it just that my technique sucks, or is it accurate that
RV’s, which have relatively small rudders compared to competition aircraft,
require some adjustment in technique when doing a slow roll?
Status Report ...goatflieg RV-8
New blogspot entry posted; Little Steps and Big
Steps; see link in my signature below. Get
comfortable because it's a long read, but there's
some good stuff in there. Here are two teaser
Problem with exhaust fitting ...chris mitchell RV-4
"... I received my 4-pipe Vetterman exhaust via
Van's. I am fitting the pipes to a Lycoming IO-320
that has a Superior cold air sump and induction
The exhaust pipes for cylinders 4.2 and 3 (that
being the ordered I fitted them in) are all fine. In
particular cylinders 4 and 2 sit together very
THe problem is with cylinder 1. It is far too close
to the induction pipe and the only way I can get it
to fit at all is with the section after teh ball
joint at a very strange angle.
I hope the photos are clear enough to show the
problem. Can anyone identify where I've gone wrong?
Here you can see the pipes from cylinders 2 and 4
Plenum PIREP ...rockwoodrv9
On my plenum, a BillL special, the oil dipstick
is not in the plenum area. I believe in his photo
the dipstick is behind the large orange ducting. At
least on a O-320, that is how it works. Here is mine
overall, but does not show the oil dipstick.
May 21, 2018. Issue
Adjusted some Wx map links
on the Wx page. Servers come and go
and all that. One interesting new link is the GOES-East image.
If you click on it (or bookmark it) you get a
2500x1250 pixel map that is updated every 5 minutes. If
you have the monitor space it's pretty sweet. I'll keep
tweaking the links as I poke around over the next few days.
Hope you had a nice weekend.
Pic Flying to Jekyll Island ...Trapper
Finally Bought My First RV! Looking Instruction SF Bay Area.
Well it took 10 months but I was finally able to pull the trigger
on A RV6A built in 1995. The tail number is N89PC. There are 30
pages of builders logs, a complete POH serial numbered for 89PC,
complete airframe, engine and propellor logs. I was impressed,
especially since I had looked at other RV's without the
documentation. The plane flew as advertised with a sustained climb
rate of 2,000 FPM for1-2 minutes dropping to 1200-1400 FPM. Wow! I
guess I'll need to buy oxygen!
My mission? T go fast safely and...cheaply. Aerobatics? Yes.
Formation flying? Yes. Burgers? Yep.
I will post pictures of the plane as soon as I take delivery.
Check this if you have an injected engine... Vic S.
the interest of safety I figure I should post this. I discovered it
yesterday during a Prebuy inspection on an RV-10 that had been
flying for 8 years and 300 hours. The rubber shipping cap had been
left installed on the fitting at the injection spider on top of the
engine. This fitting is typically connected to a round dial fuel
flow gauge, such as in older Bonanzas and Cessnas. Pressure at this
point varies in relation to fuel flow, and can be anywhere from 1.5
PSI to over 35 psi! If not plugged or capped properly, a high
pressure fuel stream will be the result, possibly causing a fire in
the engine compartment. The builder mentioned that the plans never
said to remove it. Perhaps others should check their installations?
I told the builder I wanted his Guardian Angel!
(For those of you who are used to the newer electronic fuel flow
sensors and wondering how this would work, basically the round dial
gauge is nothing but a pressure gauge that has a faceplate on it
calibrated to read fuel flow.)
another note, I am still finding way too many RV's WITHOUT the
Operating Limitations, especially on RV's owned by non-builders. So,
for those of you who may have purchased your airplane, please
understand that the Operating Limitations, which should be on FAA
letterhead, need to be in the aircraft AT ALL TIMES. The
Airworthiness Certificate is invalid without them.
For those of you who are selling your airplanes to non-builders,
please remember to have this discussion with them.
Many of them show me a POH when I ask about the Operating
FltPlan Go: Why or why not??
My FlyQ subscription is going to expire sometime
this year. I've tried Foreflight in the past. They both work fine
for me. However, I have a friend who has been using FltPlan Go for
quite a while now. After poo-pooing it for quite a while I'm
thinking of giving it a try.
So, for those who have used it, how do or did you like it?
How does it compare with the paid apps?
What allows them to be able to provide this product at no charge???
RV7 USA Perimeter Flight
My wife and I will be flying our RV7 around the perimeter of
America over the next 6 weeks. We are watching the weather and hope
to depart KMQJ, Indianapolis, Indiana, Monday, 5/20/18. Our trip
officially begins when we fly north and hit the southwest shore of
Lake Erie at KTDZ, Toledo Executive Airport. We'll fly eastbound
with our first overnight at Niagara Falls, KIAG. If you'd like a
little company, we'll be looking for RV friendly places to land.
just replaced the brake pads with a set from Vans on my Cleveland
brakes about a month ago. I have about 8 landings on them. The other
day I landed a bit fast and used moderate braking to stop. The right
brake faded and the plane drifted left but was still under control.
Taxiing back to the hanger I could smell a strong hot brake odor
entering the cockpit that persisted during the short taxi to the
hanger. Upon exit, the smell was more apparent. The next day I
removed the pads and found a buildup on the pads as shown in the two
photos linked here.
The buildup was easily removed with light sanding. The pins also
required cleaning. There was no evidence of any fluid leak. But the
was more discoloring of the primer on the wheel pants bracket than I
remember from the condition inspection. Things did get hot pretty
After installing the new pads, when tightening the two bolts on the
caliper, something happened that caused a momentary fluid leak. I
removed the bolts, and reinstalled them taking care that everything
was aligned right. The leak has not occurred again.
What could have caused this brake to overheat and what is the
buildup on the pad? I have applied much harder braking on the
previous pads without this occurring.
Status ...SJordan RV-4
RV IAC Aerobatic Competition Standings - 2018
Sorry for the delay in posting the new standings.
I was vacationing in Scotland for a few weeks. What a wonderful
country! But I didn't see any GA activity there, let alone RVs. Any
RV pilots in Scotland?
Congratulations to Brian Pham who posted a very respectable score in
his very first contest! Brian posted an account of his experience at
the Apple Valley, CA contest here on VAF and it sounds like he is
Randy King came in 5th out of a very competitive field of 14
Sportsman pilots at Sebring. He was edged out by two Extras, a Pitts
S2B and a Cap 10. He did it in a borrowed RV-7A. Look for Randy in
his new ride soon. He just ferried his new RV-8 home from Colorado.
As soon as he installs inverted systems he will be ready to compete.
Picture of the new beast below. Very nice!
Flap hinge pin lubrication (and rod ends)
I am doing my 12th condition inspection and looked at the flap
hinge and they look a bit dirty after collecting dust for the the 12
years. I typically squirt some LPS2 on them every year and that
seems to be attracting dirt. I decided to pull the pins and clean
Questions for the group: How often should you pull the flap hinge
pins and inspect, clean, lubricate? Should I be using something
other than LPS2 that collects less grim?
This leads to more general question on pulling hinge bolts. I
annually pull bolts that something rotates on, like the rudder
attach cable bolts and airbox bypass door pull cable, every year to
look for wear on the bolt. I do not for rod ends that are clamped
up. I will squirt in some LPS2 but it is hard to really get the
lubricant onto the rod end due to the clamp up with washers. How
often should I pull those bolts to lubricate and look for bearing
Status Report ...jcarne 7A
After a very short match drilling session time for a good ole
mass quantity of hours spent deburring. Lots of nooks and crannies
in these babies. At least it won't be as painful as the wing ribs!
Think I Got a Bad Fuel Pump
I bought a new mechanical fuel pump (new Lycoming
part, hi pressure for injected engine) from Aircraft Spruce last
week. While swapping the fittings with the old pump I found that the
actuating arm doesn’t move, at all. I know it isn’t supposed to move
much, but I would think that some movement is necessary. The old one
moves maybe a little more than a quarter inch or so, but the new
Naturally, I will be on the phone with Aircraft Spruce Monday
morning, but I was wondering if anyone else has ever seen this. I’ve
been in the aircraft repair business (military and commercial) long
enough to know that just because a part is new doesn’t mean it isn’t
bad but, you know, why me?
May 18, 2018. Issue
Last year some folks
suggested I remind the readers a few times throughout the year about
donation-based business model here - so here we are 136 days
into 2018, a little over a third of the way. Why now? Our family has a perfect
storm of medical bills coming up in the next 2 months: colonoscopies
and wisdom teeth. In the $5000 - $7000 range if
everything goes smooth ......all out of pocket. So, the first
'commercial' of 2018 ;^). Maybe you could give the
donations page a read if
you're not too busy, and thank you to
who helped our family keep this website going in 2018.
Unrelated, but hopefully showing my commitment to doing this site for the
long haul, the chart at right is my weight loss data over the past
21 days (no more French Fries, very limited sugar and lots of
exercise). It's working.
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend...and sorry for
Full Show at Beale Air Force
Base ...15 minute video (AX-O)
"...I was finally able to stitch the flight from
our last air show. No fancy editing or music but it
is cool to see the formation changes and everything
else going on."
Note: This is a
(you can look around during playback)
Is synthetic vision all that useful, or just hype? ...Ed Wischmeyer
In past lives, I’ve worked around synthetic
vision displays and considered them more hype than
substance. After this last trip in the RV-9A, flying
over the mountains with synthetic vision, my opinion
Who has actually used synthetic vision in flight,
and to what benefit? Not theoretical benefits, or oh
it’s nice to look at, or here’s what the marketing
hype says are the benefits, but what useful
information did it provide to help you make
decisions and take actions?
On this last flight, I was flying northbound over
the Smokey Mountains, just to the east of Asheville,
NC. It was hazy with clouds ahead almost down to the
mountains, and as I wrote earlier, this was a good
time to go IFR and get some good terrain clearance.
On the synthetic vision display, I could see the
ridges ahead, but if there were any distance markers
to the ridges, I didn’t know how to read them. And
if there had been a terrain threat, the same
database that fed the synthetic vision would have
warned me of a potential terrain encounter. I could
see from the synthetic vision that I would clear all
the ridges ahead at present altitude (if some
monster downdraft didn’t suddenly decide to ruin my
entire day), but the terrain screen would have told
me much the same thing, only with lower resolution.
There may have been times when my synthetic vision
system has shown towers and such in a useful format,
but I don’t recall. Again, the Garmin G3X system
gives aural warnings of obstacles.
Showing the destination runway on the SV is
reassuring, especially with the flight path marker
over the end of the runway, but that’s inadequate
guidance IFR and if you have to use it VFR, you may
already be in trouble.
One real annoyance of synthetic vision is that the
depicted horizon is some amount below the white line
level flight depiction.
So does SV provide any advantages in making
decisions and in taking actions? Or only in special
cases like the hypothetical engine failure over
mountains in IMC or at night? Or is it just personal
I’m inclined to leave it turned off…
Charity Cap Sighting ...Jae J. Yu
"USAF Acadamy Jump Team, Wings of Blue
About the caps
Perplexed ...Djgeib RV-8
I’m working on my -8 QB fuselage. Drilled the
holes for the mid cabin covers and am putting in the
nut plates. However, the aft most hole on the right
side has put me in a quandary. I have removed the
console cover but the angle that it attaches to is
preventing me from being able to get a squeezer or
my rivet gun in to lay flat on the rivets. Was
wondering how others have done this. I have
clearance on all the other holes. I’m sure there is
a simple solution that has evaded me. Thanks
Staying Motivated ...Strikefinder RV-8
I had a frustrating end to my shop day...I had
been humming along, finishing the RH elevator
substructure on my RV-8 and was riveting the
stiffeners to the LH elevator skin when I managed to
booger up a rivet on the inside of the trailing edge
fold. I've gotten fairly good at drilling out
AN470s, but haven't gotten the knack of drilling out
flush heads yet, so when I drilled it out, I ended
up with an elongated hole...opened it up to #30 and
put an oops rivet in, but somehow that ended up even
worse. I decided to put down the tools before I did
something more foolish, though I'm fearful that when
I drill out the NAS 1097 (and it's bad enough that
there's no doubt it will have to come out), I'll end
up with an unusable LH elevator skin. I'm not
looking forward to ordering the skin and stiffeners,
and then doing all the cutting, drilling, deburring,
dimpling, priming, etc. again to get back to where I
am now...already had to do it with the rudder once,
and similarly for one mistake that got out of hand.
not really looking for advice as far as what to do,
though...as I'm coming up on the end of the tail
section, I admit it's experiences like this that
leave me a little daunted about how far I have to
go. It's bad enough to have to scrap a few hundred
dollars in parts if it comes to that (plus
cross-country shipping and the lead time), but I
worry about the inevitable screw-up on the wings,
when I can't exactly just throw the whole spar out
and try again. And I'm still in awe of how much
there is to learn--I sort of marvel at all the
things that were completely unknown when I started
that are now pretty routine, but I just got a
starter fiberglass kit and have this sort of feeling
that every part of this process is going to make me
feel in over my head.
It seems like lots of people around here have made
all kinds of mistakes (many of the same ones I
have), and have managed to press on...my question
is, looking back at where I am now, how did you move
past the anxiety of the next steps? Did things just
get easier (though not necessarily less time
consuming) as you got more proficient, or did you
figure out how to fix the mistakes better along the
way? Does the learning curve ever start to level
I'm not saying I'm on the verge of throwing in the
towel or anything--I genuinely enjoy the building
process and know I'll feel less frustrated and have
a better perspective on what to do now in a few
days. I'm just looking for what you guys all think
now about where I am, looking back on it...
Bragging on Tate ...my son.
Tate is signed up for a welding class during his
senior year in HS. It's a half day class for
18 weeks - he drives about five miles from the HS to
a place offsite. He did this last year for
paint and body work class. We went to the
orientation the other night and were impressed!
He's going to learn stick, TIG and MIG welding - a
skill that isn't bad to have on your resume.
It also tickles the art itch he seems to have on
The Army Vet teacher nearly yelled at
the top of his lungs from the start, "First and
foremost in this class I teach HONOR and RESPECT!
After that I teach welding."
He had me. I wish I could take the class.
site: This pre-employment laboratory course
is designed to introduce basic skills in structural
welding. Introduction to the basic processes (Stick,
Mig, and Tig) welding as well as cutting with
Oxy/Acetylene and Plasma rigs will be presented in
the class (theory) and the shop (practical). Safety,
work ethic and career opportunities will be covered.
A welding hood, safety glasses, cutting glasses and
gloves will need to be purchased. Material and
supply fees may be required. The emphasis for this
class is working in the shop. Offered at Dale
Jackson Career Center Only
I've already asked Tate if he'll make me some nice
Pano pic I took
200hp 2010 RV-8A For Sale on my Field (52F)
...posting for a
local guy (w/no VAF account).
Contact Randy Richmond for more info. (817)
Four Zero 1 - 8 Zero 9 Six.
I've flown this plane and it is fast - faster than my RV-6 I'm more
than a little pissed to say. ;^)
•Mfg Date Issued: 3-19-2010
•Lyc IO-360 A1B6. 200hp. Angle valve.
•Hartzell Blended Airfoil C/S prop
•Dual P-mags (less than year old)
•Freshly re-sealed prop governor
•Nice/neat firewall forward
•9 pass/tube oil cooler (recently installed)
•Reinforced baffling around #4 cylinder made from thicker metal than
stock (supports weight of oil cooler)
•Recently replaced fuel hoses
•Fresh annual (Feb 2018)
•New nose tire and tube
•Main tires in excellent condition
•New brake pads
•Baggage door fits very nicely (unusual for 8)
•Unique way cowl pins come in from the back - insert into slots (no
exposed hinge pins)
•Canopy has a 5” crack toward aft end - not that uncommon on 8s.
•Paint is a 7.5 out of 10
•Few scratches and nicks showing a little bit of its age
•No fuel tank leaks
•Adjustable brake/rudder pedals
•Infinity grip with flaps and trim, fuel pump
•2 fuel gauges next to fuel selector
•Rear view mirrors
•Vertical compass card
•EIS engine monitor
•EFIS (GRT) recently updated
•GMA340 audio panel
•GNS430 GPS/Comm (sent to Garmin - now a 430W)
•Icom A200 Radio
•KT76A Bendix Transponder
•Wired-through circuit breakers (pull off)
•Tru Track A/P
•A/P will track 430 or EFIS
•Dayton Murdock throttle mixture prop control
•Rear rudder pedals
•Unique canopy seal (bicycle tube with pump)
•No damage history.
•Electric pitch trim
•Electric aileron trim
•Rear throttle/mix quadrant
•Polished metal spinner
•Duckworks landing lights both sides
•5 point harnesses
•Fairings where rudder cables exit fuselage
•All new EGT probes
•2 new CHT probes
May 17, 2018. Issue
One Day Across the Country....Running Out of Country ...schristo
...new personal record for a single day of
flying... We have now done this trip six times
in the RV. Twice with Propdog. Lots of interesting
flight data along the way.
24 yr old Happy RV-6 Owner/Pilot
(email from Doedo Schipper) "Brooks Mershon
bought a local RV6. 125hrs total time. Still flying
on his temporary paper license."
Houston area monthly lunch (May)
OK folks, it's time once again for some BSing
over ribs or BBQ or what-have-you. Let's get
together at Carl's at Weiser this Saturday (5-19),
11:30 as usual.
7A Status Report ...jcarne
I finished the center section bulkhead as well as
the 705 bulkhead. The 705 bulkhead took waaaaay more
time than I thought it would. Many parts to
fabricate and a lot of non-punched parts. I also
managed to get most of the way done with the 706
bulkhead. Only a couple more days and I think the
bulkheads will all be ready for priming.
Airventure 2018 One Week Wonder build team Update
The planning process is well under way, but there
is still opportunity to register as a volunteer.
If you have already registered, you should have
received a confirmation e-mail from me, asking you
to reply. If you have not received one, please check
your SPAM folder.
With Airventure 2018 only a little more than 9 weeks
away, the schedule needs to be firmed up soon so if
you were intending to participate, please register
If there are any teen build groups that are
intending to participate, but have not yet
registered or contacted me, please do so now.
14A Status Report ...rjkulesa
Felt appropriate to share this here: 23.5 hours
later, my first -14A completed component - the
Vertical Stabilizer. Not perfect, but safe and a lot
of lessons learned. Looking forward to keep going!
Garmin Service Alert 1818 Rev B: Degraded GPS Performance
MAY 16, 2018
Garmin aera 660 products with main software 3.20
(and earlier), D2 Bravo with GPS software version
3.10, (and earlier), and D2 Charlie with GPS
software version 4.30 (and earlier) are affected.
To check the D2 Bravo and Charlie GPS software
version go to the About page
(Settings->System->About) and scroll down to display
the GPS software.
The aera 660 main software version can be viewed
below the Garmin logo on the power up screen.
The aera 660 and D2 Bravo/Charlie may not be able to
acquire a 3-D GPS position fix and/or exhibit
degraded GPS performance.
Connect the device to a wifi signal and download the
latest unit software. For instructions on loading
the latest software refer to the Garmin aera 660
Pilot’s Guide (190-02017-20), D2 Bravo Owner’s
Manual (190-01674-00), and/or D2 Charlie Owner’s
Manual (190-02236-00). All manuals can be found on
The area 660 software can also be downloaded from
the Garmin website (https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/520775).
This issue has been fixed in D2 Bravo GPS software
version 3.30, D2 Charlie GPS software version 4.40,
and aera 660 main software version 3.30.
May 16, 2018. Issue
Last Saturday I flew Rob's wife Shannon down to San Angelo so
she could catch up with the rest of the relatives for a graduation (route).
Anyone familiar with the DFW to San Angelo route will know that it
this. Easy flight, all on autopilot, back at 52F before
10am and happy to help my friends. The highlight of the trip
was the WWII hangar at San Angelo that is still standing. The
lady there said they hoped they would last two years when built.
The woodwork was a thing of beauty - of course pictures are
required. Two photos and one pano starting
here. Of the eight hangars built, two still stand.
And that nearly-always hot TFR near San Angelo?
Predator Bs spiraling up to / down from 18K for border protection (article).
You know those home improvement shows where they use reclaimed wood?
What do think this hangar with its 77 yr old ceiling is worth?
First flight ...PMLviator RV-12
After 1214hr build over 3 1/2 years 120793 has
finally taken flight for the first time today. Yes
it has a heavy right wing but flew beautifully and
easier than I expected. Thanks goes to all the input
all you other pilots put on VAF, it helped a lot
during my long build. Thanks, Leon.
First Bahamas trip and things learned
Did my first Bahamas trip over the last 2 weeks.
Like others have said, it is very doable and I will
return at some point. Thought I would relay a few
experiences and lessons learned from my point of
I am a 900hr pilot. Finished the RV in 2014. Very
comfortable with it and have made about 5 long
distance trips. This is my first "over water" trip
and first time out of the country.
My plane is classic skyview equipped with ADSB and
AP. Garmin 396 also feeds into the Dynon.
After reading other write-ups and using an on-line
Caribbean travel site, I was surprised at the
weather. It was raining the entire time. Being VFR
only, I had more anxiety during the trip wondering
when we would be able to come home, than a concern
of over water flight, or red tape problems. You
forget how much weather data we have access to in
the US compared to what is available on Cat and Long
Island. Even discussions with US weather briefers
led to multiple disclaimers of "well I have limited
Customs to and from was no problem. Very user
I had two plane related problems:
1. My plane stays in a hangar. It has never had any
significant rain. After about 15" of rain on long
island, I was surprised by hydraulic lock of the
engine on trying to start for departure. I pulled
the #3 intake tube and drained about 3 cups of water
from the sump. Removed the top plugs and cleared the
cylinders. That was a bad feeling when I
contemplated what I would need to do to get any
significant engine repair work done. Started without
difficulty and after running on the ground a while,
was able to fly home without difficulty. On review
of this forum, I was surprised at the limited
remarks on this happening to others. I always
thought a small amt of water may get in, but now
realize all the water from the top of the cowling
flows forward and follows the upper radius back into
the cowling, landing right on the air cleaner.
(horizontal induction). Will address with cowl plugs
I suppose. I think the water flow volume would be to
much for a 1/8" hole in the snorkel. +/- on the
2. On my return, one hour from Fort Pierce, my AP
released and I had pegged airspeed readings of
511mph and overspend warnings. AI was also going
wacky. Alt and navigation otherwise functioning.
Backup GPS working well. On my arrival, Dynon dx the
problem as a faulty ADHARS-200. They overnighted one
to me and that fixed the problem. The plane has
300hrs on it with first flight in 2014. The unit is
out of warranty. New one was $1200. Now I have a
faulty unit that is a minimum of $250 to diagnose. I
don't think it can be used as a backup since the
backup unit is a ADHARS-201. I will look in to it.
Beaches were unbelievable and I highly recommend
Fernandez Bay Village and Cape Santa Maria.
Didn't get to go island hopping secondary to
I will go again.
RV-8 finished 9/15
Lessons Learned / IFR X-C RV-9A ...Ed Wischmeyer
Learned a few things on a very recent trip from
Savannah, GA to SE Michigan and back.
When I flew with my friend in Michigan yesterday, I
became aware of how sloppy my flying has become.
Several reasons: one is that I used to be really,
really good hand flying under the hood, and my
recollections far surpass present reality. Second,
the planes I've flown, RV and others, have had good
handling characteristics, lots of power, and most of
them have had high drag when you wanted it. I've
gotten out of the habit of flying nice traffic
patterns because I've had airplanes that didn't
require it. Bad form.
I've also been working on a procedure for engaging
the autopilot right after takeoff and integrating it
into everything else that needs to be done. So the
procedure is: set everything up on the flight
director, take off, retract flaps at 80 knots, pitch
to 7 degrees, autopilot on, and then fuel pump off.
Don't engage airspeed hold right over the runway
because the autopilot may dive to get speed.
This procedure worked great twice yesterday, but
didn't work on the third takeoff -- the autopilot
wouldn't engage! Fortunately, fiddling with the
autopilot disconnect button and the TOGA button got
the autopilot happy again. I wonder how well I would
have handled things on the first takeoff, racing to
get out ahead of the thunderstorms (ten minutes
after I took off, it poured), if the autopilot had
decided not to cooperate...
So what are my new year's (it's gotta be new year's
* Fly precise traffic patterns and get really good
at them again. No more screwing around with the
pattern just because I can get away with it;
* Do an autopilot takeoff (almost) every time for
practice and so that it becomes routine;
* Hand fly the -9A a lot more. Get really good and
really precise at it;
* Always put the checklist down in the same place in
the cockpit. Twice on this trip I hid it from
* I know all the frequencies at my home airport so I
never write them down. Not writing them down is a
bad habit for when I go to an unfamiliar airport,
like this afternoon, so start writing down
frequencies and such.
* Develop and maintain really good habit patterns.
When I was a newbie, good habits made flying easier.
Now that aging is a fact of life, good habit
patterns will help reduce mistakes and blunders;
I’m aware of the maxim that there’s always something
more to learn, but sometimes I’m displeased with how
much is left, or how much needs to be refreshed.
RV-8 (steam gauges), RV-9A at KSAV (Savannah, GA;
dual screen G3X with autopilot, GTN 650)
Previously RV-4, RV-8A, AirCam, Cessna 175
ATP CFII PhD, so I have no excuses when I screw up
May 15, 2018. Issue
Beautiful Day in Duluth ...tfriendshuh
I finally got back up in the air after a three
week hiatus - the light was amazing
Airport Camping along the Mississippi? ...Tim 8A
I'm making a trip from Duluth to New Orleans
later this week and I'm thinking of spending a night
somewhere in between - a nice rural airport where I
could pitch a tent and roast a marshmallow or two
would be ideal.
Courtesy car or walking distance to a town &
restaurant would be a close second.
I'm pretty flexible about where - anywhere south of
Dubuque IA & north of Memphis TN would likely fit
into my plans.
RE: Bottom wing skin to fuselage overlap mismatch
...SgtZim wondering about this too
I know this is an older post, but I'm now doing my
fairings and I just match drilled those holes
between the fuselage skin and wing.
My issue/question is about the fit of the
overlapping skins. my fuselage skin hangs about 1/8"
lower than the wing bottom, and clecoing the skins
together of course causes major rippling because of
the curved surface. I'm thinking about adding a
filler strip between the skins just to make a clean
joint, but if it is indeed structural - that would
not be the best solution.
Also, if it is structural - the whole method of
drilling those holes is very poor: You pre-mark
lines along the wing skin and then you are supposed
to take a stab at finding those holes in the wing by
measuring off of those lines and back 3". Far from a
good match drill. I had just enough room to squeeze
in a hole duplicator, and made good matching holes,
but the geometry of the two skins makes pretty bad
ripples. Kind of a tradeoff between structure and
aerodynamics for me anyway.
I sent my question in to Van's this am, I'll update
when I get their comments.
picture of my wing/fuselage joint.
RV7 Empennage Tools- My experience ...RV7ForMe (Europe)
Tools Tools Tools,
I remember before I ordered my empennage kit I spend
weeks if not months on this topic. What do I need?
What does everyone else buy? What should I buy?
Well. I suppose I should first tell a little bit
about me and my Knowledge on this topic: In one word
As I stated in the beginning of my build log I
started building in my college dorm. I had NO tools
whatsoever. So I had to buy EVERYTHING!
Since then I have bought a lot of tools and have
made a few experiences I would like to share. I'm
mainly answering the questions I know I had 2 years
But at the time I had no knowledge on most of these
tools or what they are used for. So there is a
certain appeal to buying a kit that has it „all“.
In hindsight I must admit that the kits do NOT
contain everything you WILL need and contain things
that depending on your liking you WILL NOT need. If
I had to buy tools today, knowing what I know I
would pick and choose only the things I like. But I
guess you will not have that luxury unless you go to
OSH and play with the tools. Even then I don't know
if you have enough time to make that decision.
I was and I still am on a budget so I actually
bought what I thought was the least amount of tools
for the least amount of money. I decided very early
against a Pneumatic squeezer, the DRDT-2 and the
tungsten bucking bar. My thought process was that
these items were very expensive but not really
necessary for the empennage. I wanted just the
tools needed for the first kit. I didn’t know if I
was going to like building or not, so I did not want
to spend a ton of money if I didn’t have to.
ABC’s... No I don’t mean the liquor store. I mean
Avery, Brown, Cleaveland tools and there is also
Isham/Planetools. (Avery retired and I believe
Cleaveland sells their stuff now)
These are 4 tool suppliers that stock „RV-Tool-Kits“
I spend a lot time comparing these kits. I decided
on the Brown tool kit. I deleted a few things but
mostly bought the kit as is.
There was a lot of talk about: My choice
Pneumatic squeezer vs. Hand squeezer
DRDT-2 vs. C-frame Dimpler
Steel Bucking bar vs. Tungsten Bucking
Air Drill vs. Battery drill
...a whole lot more text AND PICS
The Trip Home ...Ed_Wischmeyer
So the RV-9A got me home from southeastern
Michigan today, and I learned a few more things...
things that I probably should have already known...
I woke up briefly at 5 AM and the iPhone showed a
big chunk of weather south of Lake Michigan. That's
nice, thought I, and went back to sleep. At 6 AM it
was looking ornerier and was halfway across the
state. Flight service said we had an hour before it
got to us. A mad scramble to pack and get out the
door ensued, and a school bus with flashing lights
added to the chronological excitement.
At the airport, a light rain had started, thunder
was audible, and the clouds looked ugly. I picked up
the IFR clearance and taxied out, a little surprised
that my clearance void time gave me only 7 1/2
minutes instead of the ten minutes I expected. I
kind of forgot about that as I was getting
everything ready for takeoff, but got off just in
time. Hmm. Bad cockpit discipline.
Weather at takeoff was 2 1/2 miles in haze and
clear. I took off towards the better weather in the
east (spending a few of my 7.5 minutes to taxi), but
I got off before the storm came and it really did
come on, not too much later. Surprisingly, I could
have made that entire flight VFR (taking off in
Class G airspace). Scary VFR but legal. And it was
early enough that the tint of the sunglasses wasn't
appreciated, but my plain old reading glasses were
When I flew with a friend in Michigan yesterday, I
became aware of how sloppy my flying has become.
Several reasons: one is that I used to be really,
really good hand flying under the hood, and my
recalled and assumed still valid skills far surpass
my present day skills. Second, the planes I've
flown, RV and others, have had good handling
characteristics, lots of power, and most of them
have had high drag when you wanted it. I've gotten
out of the habit of flying nice traffic patterns
because I've had airplanes that didn't require it.
After the early morning scramble to get off, sitting
there in the pilot's seat for an hour looking at low
contrast scenery through the haze with the autopilot
flying, no radio traffic and a warm sun coming up
made for a sleepy boy. However, the recliner with
the built in massager at Fleming-Mason airport
remembered me, and an hour later, I was refreshed
and good to go.
Next stop was at Knoxville to have lunch with my
sister. How cool is that, to fly across the country
top to bottom and be able to stop to have lunch with
your sister just because?
I've been working on a procedure for engaging the
autopilot right after takeoff and integrating it
into everything else that needs to be done: set
everything up on the flight director, take off,
retract flaps at 80 knots, pitch to 7 degrees,
autopilot on, and then fuel pump off. Don't engage
airspeed hold right over the runway because the
autopilot may dive to get speed. This procedure
worked great in Michigan and Kentucky, but didn't
work at Knoxville -- the autopilot wouldn't engage!
Fortunately, fiddling with the autopilot disconnect
button and the TOGA button got the autopilot happy
again. I wonder how well I would have handled things
coming out of Michigan, racing the weather, if the
autopilot had decided not to cooperate...
The last leg wound up being IFR to more conveniently
handle the clouds over the Smokey Mountains (a few
hours later, those were thunderstorms). Clouds and
showers at Savannah that I didn't recall as part of
an earlier forecast made it prudent to stay IFR.
So what are my new year's (it's gotta be new year's
* Fly precise traffic patterns and get really good
at them again. No more screwing around with the
pattern just because I can get away with it;
* Do an autopilot takeoff (almost) every time for
* Hand fly the -9A a lot more. Get really good and
really precise at it;
* Always put the checklist down in the same place.
Twice on this trip I hid it from myself;
* Develop and maintain really good habit patterns.
When I was a newbie, good habits made flying easier.
Now that aging is a fact of life, good habit
patterns will help reduce mistakes and blunders;
* I know all the frequencies at my home airport so I
never write them down. This is a bad habit for when
I go to an unfamiliar airport, so start writing down
frequencies and such.
And what did IFR buy me on this trip? Some really
scary VFR flying turned into very non-descript IFR
flying. And a very worthwhile trip.
RV-8 (steam gauges), RV-9A at KSAV (Savannah, GA;
dual screen G3X with autopilot, GTN 650)
Previously RV-4, RV-8A, AirCam, Cessna 175
ATP CFII PhD, so I have no excuses when I screw up
RV-7A Rebirthing Update ...kentlik
Drilled the latch hole. So, I snuck into
the garage and drilled the latch hole. Was a bit
nerve-racking, but I managed to do it without
trouble. I will go with Sika.
Also, I found that my diligently, I thought, placed
center line was whopperjawed somtin' fierce! So I
suspended a piece of Tech line and let the belly
tell me where the center was, seems to have worked
well as the side dim's are good. Still many
trimmings to do yet as well.
May 14, 2018. Issue
With Memorial Day around the corner and incessant
babbling notwithstanding, I had to take a moment to
reflect, and be thankful...
Yesterday my wife asked me to take her to visit the
Grand-kids 325NM away in Midland, TX.* The flight in
the RVX is under 2 hours with a casual stop for
cheap fuel halfway.
Just another RV adventure...
Leveled off at 8500' and with my brain cell
challenged aging mind adrift I realized that I have
been operating these wonderful little aircraft for
nearly Thirty Years.
RV4 was just the beginning, light years seems like
Van's VHS watched repeatedly to failure.
SLOW BUILD should always be all caps. So many to
thank, so little time.
Cross Country a literal term. over 50 times "Vlad
style" before 9A's were designed...
The ID Backcountry, B17 Escort, 20,000' foray, 1V1
with an F16, too many sunrises and sunsets to
I remember donating to Cornerstone Ministries
http://www.donateyourplane.com/ and strapping a set
of RV4 wings and tail to my Truck...
I remember Arvil engineering the impossible: mating
of those wings and tail to an RV6 fuselage. Project
X was born...
I remember doing the flyby and victory roll over his
funeral with a big grin.
Those very same wings I stare at now as the West TX
countryside zips past.
My wife smiles at me. I remember her brushing her
teeth beside my Harmon Rocket at Johnson Creek in
the rising sun.
I remember Dusty, my UPT T-38 table mate who lost
his life in a KC135 on takeoff at Dyess AFB, passing
just under the left wing. A true Patriot..
I remember Linchmob and I being comm-jammed so bad
over Western Iraq and using our "RV common" (122.22)
as a get well frequency.
I remember taking Wolfman on his first combat
mission in the F16. I remember him in his RV4 tucked
in tight on my Four's wing like glue more times than
I can count.
Sure miss him.
Brownwood TX slides by. My Dad dead-sticked a T-33
in there before I was born. I remember Dad executing
a perfect greaser from the Four's back seat (despite
my challenge, and bet loss to the contrary).
I remember him teaching me to fly before I could
I remember doing a formation takeoff at Hicks field
with DR grinning in Danny King's back seat of The
Beautiful Doll with a big camera, snapping away on
the Wright's 100th anniversary (2003).
Thousands of takeoff and landings relegated to
"muscle memory" Climb, level, descend, land. Repeat.
Easy to take for granted...
Easy indeed, with the freedoms we enjoy here in the
good old US of A.
My wife reads a letter from Franklin Graham at
Samaritan's Purse who spent Easter in Iraq. The
cities he visited coincided with places I patrolled
and bombed supporting our troops. The people now
enjoy their first tastes of a very tentative and
fragile Free Iraq. Hallelujah, maybe what we fought
for is paying off.
Freedom isn't free and having seen both sides of
that tarnished coin I am very thankful. Thankful to
live somewhere where I can fly an airplane I built
in my garage across free airspace in a free country.
JanJan's RV7 Mother's Day RV grin
"Today was another great RV event in the Traynham
family! Jan (aka JanJan by the grandkids) flew for
the first time in our RV7. Her pilot was her
youngest son who, by her account, is qualified after
flying Warthogs and now Delta airliners. After the
flight she not only had the RV grin, she said, "Now
I see why you two love this airplane so much!"
RV7 wing progress ...fcordrey
I have been working along on my
wings for some time now and today they came off the
stands. They are safely in the wing cradle and the
stands were taken up. My dad came up and helped my
over the last couple days to get the top skins on
and I had the Aileron brackets complete so we
installed them as well.
Skins ready to be riveted.
Bowstring Revisited ...petehowell
There has been some talk recently of closing a
beautiful grass strip up in northern Minnesota, 9Y0
- Bowstring. The RAF put out a call for help, so I
wrote some emails and sent the post on VAF from a
visit I made several years ago. The real story is
bunch guys flew up in person to talk to the county
commissioners. It looks like it worked! Airport
manager Ken Reichert really does a nice job at
Many pics...and vid.
Wx Update ...Ed Wischmeyer
So the weather cooperated today. Five flying
hours, two fuel stops, five minutes of actual IFR.
The IFR was just north of Asheville, NC, which
frequently has clouds about. I was at 6500 and
pondering my options. The headwinds were 24 knots,
and out west, the rule of thumb is that means you
need at least 1000 feet over the mountains for every
ten knots of wind. However, it was smooth. So the
question was, over, under, or through?
I tried over, but it was clear that 8500 would not
be 1000 over the cloud tops, and I didn't want too
go to 10,500, even though I had oxygen.
My rule for flying under clouds is that it has to be
clear, the weather stable so you know nothing is
going to change on you, and with at least one iron
clad way out. Hazy killed the first rule, 24 knots
of wind killed the second and third. So no under.
So I got IFR at 8000 with some in and out, mostly
in, for about five minutes. I watched the autopilot
do its thing and when we got to the north edge of
the clouds (and the mountains), you could see
forever, or nearly.
So five minutes of IFR made the trip work. And
coming into Michigan, with a big storm area, IFR
meant that I could go take a look if I wanted to.
Didn't have to, came in VFR and the 15 knot winds
were down the runway.
My kind of trip. Except for getting up real early...
fortunately, there was a recliner (with massager!)
at the second stop. That was KFGX - Fleming-Mason
Airport, in Kentucky, near Cinncinnati, was a great
gas stop. The local gas station makes really good
burgers. On previous trips, I've stopped at
Cynthiana, KY, which is also friendly with a loaner
to get you into town.
The last 75 minutes had a tailwind (finally!) and
continuous light chop, occasionally moderate, as
forecast. What was different was that this chop was
all mechanical, with no up and downdrafts. I wish
the Georgia chop would take lessons from the Ohio
Point of clarification - this was in the
RV-9A, not in the -8, if you didn’t pick up on
keeping stuff in the passenger seat accessible.
Follow up: looks like I’ll be in southeast Michigan
for two more unplanned days. Plan H was to go to
Iowa from her, then home. Plan I is togo straight
home if that becomes possible befor going to Iowa.
Plan J is what I end up doing.
Status Report ...RV7ForMe
Now that the FL-706B wholes are drilled I
enlarged the one originaly prepunched whole to ¼ in.
Osh '18 3rd Annual HBC Beer Tasting (Sun 7/22) ...bullojm1
The natives are getting restless, so it must mean
it's time to officially announce the 2018 Oshkosh
THIRD Annual HBC Beer Tasting - Sunday, July
22nd, 1700 at the NEW AWESOME HBC Pavilion!
First the foremost - Jerry Fischer - THANK
YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!! You are the real reason
this is possible!!! Anyone who has access to the
sweet nectar of Deschutes Black Butte, toss a bottle
in Jerry's tent!
VOLUNTEERS - You are the second most important
reason this event is a SUCCESS! Those brave enough
to endure the thankless job of fighting off the
thirsty restless masses before the 5pm kickoff, I
need to solicit your help again this year! Anyone
bored on Sunday afternoon who is skilled at putting
warm beer in ice buckets is welcome to join our
amazing team. DAN LANDRY - you will be missed! Rob,
Paul and Frank - consider yourself on the list.
PAINLESS - THANKS FOR STEPPING UP! CJ - Looking
forward to sampling your cache of Alaskan beers!
Milestone: Panel IN ...MED
May 11, 2018. Issue
Wishing you and yours a
happy, safe and RV-filled weekend (and my wonderful mother-in-law a
happy 93rd birthday).
Milestone (and great pic)
...Scott Emerson RV-14A
Wing kit arrives tomorrow.... had to make room in
the garage! [ed. I
mean come on....how do I NOT make this the weekend
splash image?!?! v/r,dr]
Waiting for the weather ...Ed Wischmeyer RV-8
Discovered some funny psychology
while waiting for the weather.
The original plan was to fly from Savannah, GA, up
to southeastern Michigan yesterday. Multiple lines
of thunderstorms and a forecast strong crosswind at
the destination airport made no-go an easy decision.
But the plane was already packed (a plastic tub in
the passenger seat holds the oxygen bottle, always a
nuisance to keep upright and accessible, plus
snacks, water bottles, tie down kit, bug cleaning
kit, etc). Clothes and such can get packed almost
instantaneously, so I had a free day before the
It was amazing what a de-stressor this unplanned
free day was. Ran some errands, got new tires for
the car and a CT scan for my back, did laundry, paid
bills, all kinds of things that would have otherwise
been piled up, waiting for me when I got back home.
Maybe when time comes for Oshkosh, I'll load the
plane a few days in advance rather than just the day
So this morning is another no-go, with thunderstorms
and IFR. I'm book legal for IFR, but to be honest
with myself, I don't want to fly a whole leg of hard
IFR. If it turns into hard IFR, I can do it, even if
the autopilot fails, but it wouldn't be fun. And if
there are lines of thunderstorms to dodge IFR, even
with ADS-B uplink, fuhgeddaboutit. Isolated air mass
thunderstorms, VFR, maybe.
Plan C, or whatever letter we're up to, is to go
half way this afternoon and finish the trip
tomorrow. Unlikely, but all it takes is a phone call
to check on the weather. Plan D is the whole trip
tomorrow, also unlikely. Plan E is an early morning
launch Saturday so as to be there by 1 PM or so. The
motivation for the trip is a memorial service, and
ain't no point in trying too hard to get there and
requiring a second one.
As for today, the plan is to be completely packed
and ready to go when I check the weather late
morning, with eating and drinking in preparation for
the trip. If I don't go, then I'll expend energy on
exercise, do a few more chores, etc.
"It's better to be down, wishin' you was up, than
up, wishin' you was down."
And it's also better to be at home, waiting for the
weather, than in some motel room part way. Less
pressure, more restful. Lots better than that six
day trip from Georgia to Arizona a few years back,
waiting out storms in the southeast and turbulence
and high winds out west...
Tate Reeves: Artist
I would like to brag on my son a bit
today. First pic below is the digital image
that many will recognize as the engine section of a
1980 Honda Passport moped. Below that is
Tate's rendering using only black acrylic paint (click
to enlarge) for an art project. He
received a 99 and some nice words from his art
teacher. It's being showcased at his school,
and will live someday on my office wall. He
doesn't get that skill from me, that's for sure.
Bellcrank puzzle ...Mark Jackson RV-8
I am getting ready to install the
bellcranks in my RV-8 wing. I reamed out the
bushings with a 1/4" drill bit. Bolts go in
reasonably easily. I used a 3/8" drill bit and a tap
wrench to remove some of the powder coating and
stuff from the WD-421 bellcranks.
Mystery - The 3/8 inch drill bit slides through the
bellcrank easily. The bushing will not go through.
It will slide almost all the way through easily, but
then gets stuck with about 1/4" to go. It does this
from either side, in either orientation. I thought
the bushing was bent but the bolt goes through true.
Measured the bushing and it is .375 at either end
and in the middle. I thought the bellcrank itself
might be bent but the drill bit slides through
easily. If the welds were intruding into the barrel,
it would bind as soon as I started to put the
I am at a loss. Any ideas out there.
I uploaded a video to YouTube of the bellcrank/bushing.
In need of moral support.
It's after 1am and I can't sleep.
I went to my airport storage to find pigeons had
defecated on my (unwrapped) wings. (They can't have
been there more than two weeks.) I pulled my
vertical stabilizer and rudder to find the
beginnings of some pretty serious corrosion.
My plan is to wash and dry all the parts and wrap
them loosely in plastic. The empennage is fairly
easy to rebuild if I have to but severe damage to
the wings might just kill my desire to continue
building (and I have just ordered a finish kit)....
GySgt, USMC (Ret.)
It started.... Mike Newall RV-12
Please save electrons by not
saying it has no wings on, that is as old as primer
wars. It was a short, idle run to check systems at
home and we are very pleased indeed. Once again,
just super impressed with what Vans produces and we
Diagnosing high EGTs - a long sad story...jbell2355
In early October, I signed a purchase agreement
on a beautiful RV7A built by a physician here in
Michigan. He had his CFI friend fly the plane up to
my neck of the woods for a pre-buy inspection. I got
the green light from the A&P and sent the wire
transfer – the plane was mine!
The CFI and I hopped into the plane for a few
landings and then I flew him back home solo. I
recall during that first run-up that the engine
seemed to run rough on one mag, but the CFI didn’t
seem too concerned and it was my first time in the
plane, so I didn’t know what was normal. On my 2
hour return flight home, all alone in a new plane, I
started getting a high EGT annunciation on cylinder
#4. This was disconcerting for me, having never had
this kind of engine monitoring info and being new to
home, I consulted with the builder who told me that
he hadn’t had this issue before. At first it seemed
it had to be related to the pre-buy inspection, but
what could the mechanic have done that would cause
this? We did a little troubleshooting and decided it
was probably a bad EGT probe. I flew the plane
regularly and found that the annunciation was mostly
an issue on climbout and that with proper leaning
(or lack thereof), I could mostly manage the high
EGT. Cylinder head temps did not appear out of line.
I flew the plane for 25 hours and brought it back to
the pre-buy mechanic for a supervised oil change. I
uncowled the plane and was shocked to see that the
#4 high tension lead was disconnected from the upper
plug on cylinder #4 (Lightspeed Ignition). The only
good news was that we now knew the source of the
problem. The mechanic was very nonchalant about the
fact that he left the plug unplugged, and didn’t
seem bothered by it at all. I wasn’t very happy,
except for the fact that we thought we had solved
I flew the plane home after the oil change, excited
to finally be rid of that irritating flashing red
light, but it was still there! For the next few
months, I swapped EGT probes, installed a new one,
had them tested, checked for wiring problems, and
spent a lot of time messing around trying to
diagnose the problem. I was about to send the GRT
EIS monitor back to be tested, when I shared some
engine monitor info with Doug Hamerton at Aero Sport
Power (the engine builder). He felt that, based on
the data, I was leaning #4 lean of peak and that’s
how/why the temp was going back in line with the
other cylinders which were leaned ROP.
At this point I had put 80 hours on the engine. I
had the mechanic on my field take a look and he told
me I had a leaking exhaust valve, so I had him pull
the cylinder. Based on the amount of carbon buildup,
we decided to pull all the cylinders and have them
looked at by Doug.
Aero Sport did their thing and a few weeks later the
cylinders were remounted. 2 new pistons, 1 new #4
cylinder and the rest just cleaned up/painted. Once
it was all put back together, I fired her up and did
the ground run procedures.
Then I flew it, and still had the **** EGT problem!
This isn't the end of the story, but I’m going to
stop the story here for a day or two. You should
know that we did subsequently find and fix the
problem. I’m curious whether anyone would have saved
me all this hassle I've been through if I would have
And Klaus, you’re not allowed to answer.
Kahuna, you hit the nail on the head!
Where were you $5,000 ago? Neither mechanic I worked
with thought of a bad coil. Neither knew that
running the ignition without a plug would burn up
#4 was running rich after the pre-buy inspection. I
assume this was because only 1 plug was firing.
Eventually, it started running lean - because enough
fouling of the exhaust valve caused a leak on the
intake stroke. This was puzzling to me at the time,
but now it makes perfect sense.
Anyhow, I hope this post saves someone else a few
bucks down the road!
May 10, 2018. Issue
Might anyone have pictures
of a frangible windsock pole mount from their field? We're
looking at putting one on our field. Two actually.
Another RV-7A takes its first flight!
After 7.5 years my "QB" RV-7A finally got airborne last week and I
already have 10 hours on her. A great moment and I was able to share
it with a builder friend who came with though the FAA Qualified
Pilot program. I am concentrating almost entirely on the proper
engine break-in/seating of rings. I have a few questions for the VAF
guys in the know. As I have close to 10 hrs, I am expecting the
rings to seat very soon and CHT's to drop. I am wondering what kind
of drop I should see. As I am doing the phase one unfortunately a
little too late for ideal cool temps in the Las Vegas area. Oil
consumption seems somewhat minimal, buy higher than I would expect
if the rings had already seated. The highest I've seen is about 418
for a couple min on the initial climb. It's a new stock lycoming
IO360-M1B engine. MT CS prop. Wheel pants are not installed. Nose
leg/pant is complete and can be installed, but the mains are not
completed yet. Below are some cruise reference numbers to help build
4500 ft, 7170 ft DA, WOT, 2400RPM, OAT 82F, oil temp 184, 130 IAS
4500 ft, 7130 ft DA, WOT, 2500RPM, OAT 82F, Oil temp 186, 132 IAS
CHT's: 392, 397, 375, 382
4500 ft, 7160 ft DA, WOT, 2450RPM, OAT 83F, Oil temp 184, 131 IAS
CHT's: 388, 394, 372, 389
My biggest question is when should I expect the seating to occur?
Will it be sudden? What kind of drop in CHT's should I see?
If the temp drop is not significant, I think I will need to make
cowling adjustments to lower the CHT's so the plane is useful in
Thanks for any insight and input. I have read a bit on VAF about the
break-in process, but have not seen what to expect.
Boulder City, NV
How to bind a hairline fiberglass crack w/o access to the back side.
have a small fiberglass crack between the windscreen and the
cowling....its exactly centered and about 6 inches below the bottom
of the wind screen. You can't see the crack in the attached
picture, but I put an arrow to show where it is (you seriously can't
see it in the pic). Its about 4 inches long, hairline, and
allows the fiberglass on the back side of the crack (closest to the
windscreen) to stick up about 3/32 of an inch.
Its been that way since I bought the airplane....and it is not
My A/P suggested that I get a hypodermic needle and inject some lock
tite (or other) adhesive under it to bind it back down. My
question is, what adhesive to use ? It has to basically be instantly
bonded because I don't have a way to hold it down while it bonds.
And I don't want it to generate heat and melt the surrounding
48 States in 7 Days ...planning
Planning a 48 state trip in two weeks with my son. Below is our
planned route. We'll try to do it in 7 days but truly have no need
or desire to push our limits or even complete the trip unless it's
easy and fun. We plan to be as self-sufficient as possible but we
all know how those plans go. We don't plan on an oil change as we'll
leave with fresh oil and filter and flight time is planned for 40
hours. We may need an O2 refill, though. I'll try to do a trip
report but definitely don't expect Vlad quality. Thanks to Joe
Rainbolt for his kind help with route planning and advice.
Help: strobe quit working
I promise not to clean my tail lens again!
My tail navigation/strobe light lens was extremely dirty so I
decided to pull the bottom rudder flairing where the tail position
light/strobe light attaches. Getting the two screws with locking
nuts out was tough but I got it done. Cleaned the lens and
reinstalled everything. Had to replace one ground connection for the
position light but didn’t have to do anything to the strobe light
connection. Powered everything up and the strobes didn’t work! Not
only the tail light strobe failed to work but the wing tip strobes
also quit working!
I don’t understand what happened. Why would the wing tip strobes
also quit working. I didn’t even get close to them. Does anyone have
any idea what’s happened here?
Sills ...AviatorJ RV-10
...I happened to install the Aerosport ones recently so I can tell
you what I did. In my case I had the top on, glassed in and the
plane around latch all installed. If you are doing this prior to
installing the cabin top you could do it different
Removed 3rd door latch block.
Measured and trimmed each sill for length and cut.
Made measurements with a sliding square about every 6 inches and
then transcribed that onto carbon fiber sill piece.
Trimmed the sill piece to match the markings with about a 1/16th
extra (ie on the outside of the drawn line)
Then it was just back and forth holding it up, sanding a bit,
holding it back up and sanding some more. Takes time but I
wanted it flat on both angles and close to the cabin top filet
Roughed up paint and then coated the inside of the sill with 3M
two part adhesive.
Clamped the piece in place and removed any overage.
Once cured, removed clamps, sanded the bottom of the 3rd latch
blocks a bit and called it good.
High Silicon in Oil Analysis Solved (I think)
I think we need to distinguish between the element
silicon and the elastomer silicone.
Silicon is a chemical element with symbol Si and atomic number 14. A
hard and brittle crystalline solid with a blue-grey metallic lustre.
Silicone rubber is an elastomer (rubber-like material) composed of
silicone—itself a polymer—containing silicon together with carbon,
hydrogen, and oxygen. In its uncured state, silicone rubber is a
highly-adhesive gel or liquid. In order to convert to a solid, it
must be cured, vulcanized, or catalyzed. This is normally carried
out in a two-stage process at the point of manufacture into the
desired shape, and then in a prolonged post-cure process.
The presence of Silicon in an oil analysis normally indicates the
presence of dirt, sand, and other like materials usually ingested
into the engine through the air filter and induction system.
The Silicon in Silicone rubber is chemically bonded to the other
elements, that is there is no free silicon. So running oil or fuel
through a silicone rubber hose should not remove any chemically
RV-8 and the Turn Around Cape Flattery
Sunday (5/6/18) saw some better weather around the Northwest, so
I got a trip out to the coast in. The airframe mounted camera is
still pretty shaky (better on some says than others), but the
handheld shots aren't bad.
I am not a lawyer by any means, and this is not
meant to be advice as much as something to think about for all of
us. I have had the occasion to perform prebuys as a result of estate
sales over the course of many years, and I keep seeing the same
thing. The aircraft has been left in a state of disrepair sometimes
for so long that the monetary value has greatly depreciated,
Sometimes to less than half or more than the value at the time of
death. I find it so sad for the family/spouse of the deceased. The
aircraft that at one time may have been the pride and joy of the
owner or family may now require lots of work and money to even make
I know it can be a really tough time for the family, and especially
the spouse, but I’ll tell you what I have told my family. If
anything happens to me, sell the airplane the next day. Don’t wait.
Don’t let emotions get in the way of a financial decision that most
certainly have adverse consequences.
Just my thoughts.....
..for iOS and Android
For those wanting more privacy online. Note the first pic
below. It's the Science section of DailyMail.com in the UK -
DuckDuckGo's browser running on my iPhone. No big deal...looks
and works just like Safari. The other three pics show the
46 ad trackers (THREE PAGES)
that the DuckDuckGo app blocked while I was viewing this
PS: VAF and the mothership show
0 ad trackers. We both get
'C' ratings because the sites aren't encrypted, but I've yet to find
an 'A' site. 'B' seems to be the highest score you can get.
So, you know....passing grade. ;^) dr
May 9, 2018. Issue
Rob Reece post RV flight. Look how happy he looks...;^)
IAC Contest - Impressions of a first time competitor
I just got back yesterday from the Duel in the
Desert Contest in Apple Valley, CA. Thursday was
registration day and we got one 15 minute slot for
practice. There were 28 competitors, and a bunch of
awesome aircraft. I felt like a kid in a toy store.
There were over half a dozen Extras, an Edge 540,
4-5 Pitts S1 and S2s, a Super D, 2 Eagles, a Great
Lakes, and a very humble 160hp, FP prop RV4. Am I in
the wrong place?? Haha. I wasted some precious
minutes of my practice slot b/c I was not prepared.
(I didn't realize I needed fuel, forgot to buckle
the rear belts, etc.) Newbie mistakes, which only
left me with about 8 minutes to check out the box
and do one sequence. Next time I need to get
prepared instead of gawking at the cool planes and
chatting with their owners.
Friday, we started nice and early with the pilots
meeting at 7am and Intermediate starting right after
that. Afterwards was everyone else. I did ok, I
thought, with a 77.xx% score, but felt I could do
better and felt that I normally fly better than
that. The density altitude caught me off guard and I
learned that I should have started higher and
carried more speed to start the maneuvers.
Second round I felt was better, but the judges
didn't think so and I got a 76.xx%. I read the
comments, but couldn't really understand what some
of the comments meant. And the others, I kinda
didn't know what to do about them. It would have
been nice to have a mentor/ coach at this time. Any
Saturday comes and again we had to wake up early,
drive 20-25 minutes to the airport from the hotel
and we all looked really tired. It was smoking hot.
I had my best flight that day with a score of 78.xx%
and an overall finish of 3rd place.
First and second were Pitts S2s flown by a young kid
who's obviously very talented and even at only
twenty-something years old was a CFII and was flying
with an aerobatic flight school in Utah. He has
aspirations to become a Red Bull Air Race pilot.
Second was a lovely young gal who flies for a
collegiate aerobatics team in Colorado. By the end
of the contest we were all friends and joking around
with each other about who's gonna win the next
AJ Wilder (he flies for the US National Aerobatic
Team), who has been helping me out at my practice
days, told me to go get the score and comments at
the end of the contest so he could go over them with
me and tell me what I need to work on for the next
contest. They were really helpful tips, but why
didn't he tell me this BETWEEN rounds instead of at
the END of the contest?? Haha.
That would have been so helpful! I had a great time
and learned a bunch and met a lot of really amazing
And as icing on the cake, I met and was hanging out
with Max, the owner of a gorgeous Extra 330 the
whole weekend. After the contest was finished on
Saturday, we had some time and he asked me if I
wanted to fly his plane from the front seat. Uhm...
Of course!! YES!! The stick was so light that it
felt like I just needed to BREATH on it and it
moves! It's almost telepathic. It took a few minutes
to get used to, but after I had a blast! Super nice
guy and great pilot. He ended up with Second in
The best speech I heard at the banquet/ award
ceremony was given by Howard Kirker, a 70-something
legend in the sport. He said that the best measure
of success in this sport is if you can grow old.
That's much more important than trophies or titles.
The goal is to be able to enjoy this sport until you
grow old like him. So safety is of utmost
importance. He has been flying since 16 years old
and competed for 30 years up to Unlimited. He's now
dialed back, but still kicking butt in Intermediate.
He won first place this weekend. And the other guys
say he always does - in a Great Lakes!!
Thanks to IAC 49 for taking me into their chapter
and showing me the ropes. Before about a month and
half ago, I never even had flown in an aerobatic box
or gotten any ground critiquing or coaching and
didn't know what the heck I was doing. Without them,
I definitely would not have been here to compete.
And thanks to Ron, Bill (willyeyeball), Jerry and
all the guys on the IAC RV Yahoogroup for their
guidance. You guys are a great inspiration for what
an RV can do! And of course thanks to VAF and all
the members for the incredible resource that it is.
I would not even own an RV if it wasn't for this
group. And lastly thanks to EAA 96 for coming
"straight outta Compton" to support me! Haha. A lot
of the following photos are courtesy of my buddies
from EAA 96.
Now I gotta get some rest to recover. It was great
fun, but sure takes a lot out of ya! Can't wait till
the next one!
7A Rebirthing: Canopy PIREP ...kentlik
I got serious about the canopy finally after
several days if not weeks. In Oregon
when the sun comes out you better be quick! Got up
to 70 plus, but not 75.
Vent line not blocked, but tank pressurized? ...sbalmos
I'm trying to think this one
through, whether it's just a nuisance, or I have to
pull and fix my petulant cranky left fuel tank again
before final inspection.
Currently, my hangar is 70-ish inside. Both left and
right tanks have approximately 11 gallons in them,
definitely nowhere near the top where fuel would
readily enter the vent line. But my left tank is
already dripping fuel out my vent. I'm almost
certain this is fuel leaking through from the vent
line bulkhead fitting inside the tank, probably the
vent line fitting Just Loose Enough [tm].
Question 1 - is there enough normal outgassing
pressure from fuel in the tank to push fuel in the
vent line up the J-U loops of our vent lines inside
the fuselage, clearly above the level of the tanks,
until the fuel in the line vents overboard?
Now, the more important question... When I raise the
tab on the fuel filler cap, and thus unseal it
without removing the cap, I get a large hiss. I'm
almost certain this is excess outgassing being
released from the tank that didn't make it through
the vent line in the fuselage, since the vent line
was full of fuel.
This pressurization built up over 2 days, on the
ground in my hangar. I'm wondering whether I should
be concerned with it in a flight scenario? I'm
thinking not, because when fuel is being used up
from the tank, now we're dealing with a vacuum
situation in the tank, and the vent line is used to
pull in air into the tank. It's just going to happen
to pull that "leaked" fuel back into the tank.
The real concern I have is whether the vacuum in the
tank, in normal flight, will become too much for the
tank because the vent line is filled with fuel, and
maybe compromise the tank? I'm thinking not, but I'm
just posing the scenario. Too many memories of
reading too many posts here relating to balloon leak
tests and pulling vacuums to pull in Locktite to
seal weeping rivets, and posts saying that too much
pressurization or vacuum will rupture the tank.
May 8, 2018. Issue
Susie, Tate and I ate dinner Sunday at 4pm because Tate needed to go
into work early. Nothing on TV so after I pushed out the
Monday edition we drove out to the airport, waited until about ten
minutes before, then launched in the RV to catch the sunset forecast
for 8:14pm - turned out to be 8:21pm at 2,000'. Smooth air and
all the airspace was ours. Landed just as the runway lights
came on and still got home before Tate :^).
Monday night was spent digging in
the yard trying to find a sprinkler system leak that
has been 1) watering a big patch of the backyard
below the surface (uncommanded) and 2) keeping me
from using the rest of the sprinklers (it's turned
off). Bought some PVC knee boots from Lowes
for the festivities. No way am I paying a
sprinkler guy to dig....I can dig for free <g>.
Use auto plugs- NGK- Check those ferrules are tight
You know, the ferrule, the little metal bit at
the top of the plug where you plug the wire in.
I just checked my plane -- four out of four
were loose and wobbly.
They are brand new NGK plugs replaced at annual only
~5 hours ago. I didn't notice them to be loose when
I installed them, but didn't explicitly check them
for this. And I've been using this brand/type for
the past 10 years, never noticed this before.
I recently had some ignition trouble (old thread
here) which I think was caused by this. First I
thought it was caused by ignition wires (two of them
were indeed flaky when bent just right so maybe I
prevented a future failure there), then I thought it
was the Lightspeed coil (one coil was indeed bad),
but the root cause, according to Lightspeed, was
probably the loose ferrule which causes heating in
the coil and failure.
And of course who knows what kind of weak spark you
get when that thing is loose...hopefully a gentle
turn with a pair of pliers will keep them in place.
Panel Pic ...Rstansley RV-4
7A Rebirthing ...kentlik
I didn't realize how HUGE the passages were in
the originals until I made my own. This helped
a lot for fitment, like, a whole bunch!
Maintained my parallel to deck on the side rails as
My RV-12 is painted!! Finally! ...pstraub
Turbo69bird in the VAF Forums. His site
with a lot of pics. Like this one...
May 7, 2018. Issue
What started as a 'Where should we fly to breakfast this
fine Saturday morning?' for three of us turned into a close up
and personal tour of warbirds, complete with DC-3 and 1930's era
biplane fly-bys. We picked Mt. Pleasant, TX (KOSA)
and drove the courtesy car to
Herschel's for, what
was described by an airport guy we met, as 'upscale Dairy Queen'.
I ordered grits for the first time in 40 years. They were
good. The unsweet tea dispenser is today's off topic.
Pictures and videos can be found
HERE. You want to stand in the shade one foot from the folding
mechanism of a Corsair for an hour? With no crowds whatsoever -
just pondering the awesomeness of 78 year old engineering? Mt.
Pleasant, ladies and gentlemen. I updated the
VAF Courtesy Car & Food list accordingly.
These RVs really are amazing. I forget sometimes how much
fun picking a place and just going there to see what you'll find can be.
Randy brought up the point that bringing a lawn chair and just setting
there in the shade watching these old planes fly around the pattern on a
Saturday would be just about as good as it gets. I think he might
Hope you had a nice weekend also.
From the Mothership...
"When registering your plane with the FAA, please
retain the serial number assigned by Van’s Aircraft
to your RV project. With over 10,000 RV’s in the
sky, replacing an assigned number with an original
number may be a nice touch, however, down the road,
it is not practical. Scenario: plane is registered
with an “original” serial number. Plane changes
hands, Van’s isn’t notified, and someone changes the
tail number. Now there is no way to track down the
original account. In essence, this means that if a
service bulletin is issued regarding some parts
intrinsic to that plane, the current owner will not
receive the notice. I know the EAA has information
to the contrary, but with over 10,000 flying RV’s,
it is a matter of safety that Van’s has the ability
to contact all RV owners should it become necessary.
Blue skies, and be safe”.
Cynthia A. Schrantz
Van's Aircraft, Inc.
New build - bent aluminum question
I'm a new builder staring a -14A. Working on
Vertical Stabilizer (after having done the SportAir
class and a few practice kits) and really enjoying
Today I was working on the top tip rib, part VS-706,
on the step where I need to radius the corners at
the Tip Rib flange to ensure a good fit when skins
While making the radius on the scotch-brite wheel, I
accidentally caught it wrong and it bounced off of
the wheel and slightly bent the forward tip of the
Mallards Landing Fly-In PIREP ...Vic S
Yesterday was a lot of fun. At one time there
were 2 Stearmans, an RV-8, A Woody Pusher, a Maule,
a Cherokee 180, RV-10, a Champ, and a C-172 in my
back yard. There are days like this when I think
someone is going to pinch me and wake me up!
But, the HIGHLIGHT of the day happened at the start
of the day. I was on my deck with some Young Eagles
I had taken flying and was filling out their
Certificates. From behind me I hear someone trying
to get my attention, and so I turn around and it is
a young gentleman who introduces his wife and 9
month-old baby girl. He says he just wanted to come
by and say thanks, as I took him for his Young Eagle
ride when he was 16, and now he is a commercial
How neat is that? He is now the 3rd YE that has come
back to Mallards and told me they got their pilot's
I know many of you do the same, and hopefully have
some of the same stories to share. So, keep doing
it!!! Who knows whom we will inspire? I bet some of
us could be sitting in a rosking chair someday
watching one of these new pilots landing on Mars.
Whelen Tail Strobe Wire Routing ...Jeff A
This is from when I had the Whelen strobe
installed, but the same idea worked for the Suntail.
Milestone: Private Pilot!
After about 9 months, 55 flight
hours, and around $6,000 (estimating, I haven't
added everything up yet) I am finally a private
pilot. Working around the runway closures at my base
airport, I took my check ride this past Monday on a
typically gusty north Texas day. It wasn't my best
flying, considering the conditions, but I passed!
With training done I will have quite a bit more time
and money to work on the RV. I'm still working to
get this thread caught up with my actual progress.
Forward top skin tip ...RV-8
I fitted the top skin before
cutting out the panel for the baggage door. While
fitting I took the left over angle from rolling the
lower fuselage skin to make a couple of hold bars
between the firewall and the next aft bulkhead. This
holds everything aligned for baggage door and cowl
May 4, 2018. Issue
N. Texas, TFR Friday...VIP movement. Milestone this
weekend: Met my
wife on 5/5 back in 1984 - 34 years ago. Nickel beer night
(the mullet apparently irresistible). We're celebrating the
anniversary trying to figure out what the cost will be on our first
colonoscopies (she and I both 52). Our self-employed insurance
is <expletive> - asking them the
question 'How much will my colonoscopy cost me?' apparently
requires a Cray supercomputer and a Manhattan Project sized team of
scientists. An hour on the phone with them produced no answer.
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled colonoscopy...I mean weekend.
Sorry, dealing with a lotta shit here. (badump)
[ed. Update: Email from Steven B. Try
this. Flat rate. Steven, thank
Cedar Meadows RV-12 PIREP ...Vlad the traveller
Today two RV12 landed at Cedar Meadows.
Fly-in May 26. dr]
Dave and Mark followed me all the way from PA
and MD good job guys! Landed long and still were
able to stop at the middle of 3,000 feet runway.
Come back and show them some attendance. <g>
RV-8 Back Seat Stick Base Cover ...Ron RV8
Pretty easy to do in aluminum. Do a card stock
stretch-out first... I took out the drink holder,
too much chance of water bottle interference with
the stick... Water bottle now lays forward of the
cover, still accessible....
Carb Update: Problem Solved ...todehnal RV-12
Well, I'm pretty sure that I have found my
problem as well. First, a few more details.
After reading everything that i could find on the
subject, all things pointed to the cards, and that
included suggestions from Rotax gurus. I ordered the
small carb kits from Lockwood, and when they
arrived, I went to work. By the way, like many
things, the scary part of the job was the unknown.
After watching a few videos, and reading up on the
process, I set up a very clean area with lots of
light an a magnifying glass. It was really pretty
straight forward, and to be honest, I didn't find
the smoking gun. There was a little black residue
hear and there which cleaned off nicely. Oh, I guess
the choke works a bit smoother now.
After re-installing the carbs and doing a run up,
the roughness was still there on Ignition A, and
with all of the black plugs, I was still unable to
identify the bad cylinder. So much for carbs being
the problem. Everything that I read stated that
ignition component failure is very rare, but I
thoroughly did a physical inspection again of all
ignition connections. I tugged on every connector,
seated every plug, and verified that there were no
broken or chafed parts.
So, I ran it up again and had the same roughness but
this time I kept it up at about 3600 rpm, putting up
with the roughness for a couple of minutes and the
did a radical shutdown. This time I could detect
that cylinder 1 plugs were worse. .On a whim, and
really not expecting anything good to come of it, I
dig out the old plugs, picked the best looking two
and put them in cylinder 1.
Wow! It was like magic! So I did the carb balance
and everything looks good. Bottom line, I guess I
had replaced a bad spark plug with a fresh out of
the box bad spark plug. Thanks for everyone's help.
14A Status Report ...didja
Currently nearly completed with the tail cone.
Started Nov 1st of 2017. I am expecting my wing kit
to arrive in about a week or two!!!
May/June FAA Safety Briefing Online
7A Rebirthing Update ...kentlik
So the weather has been far too cold to cut
acrylic. I have since moved to skirting work:
Here are the side skirts:
RV Interiors Press Release ...Rich Meske
"Take advantage of the Spring and plan to add one
of our interior packages to your aircraft. We are
offering interiors for models RV-6, RV-7, and RV-9.
Other aircraft are possible as well. Choose your own
materials and we will make your seats, armrests, and
stick boots. The seats feature an inflatable lumbar
support. An optional EZ-Step can be incorporated in
the seat. It is a convenient place for a person to
put their foot upon entering the aircraft. See this
feature along with our newest products at
May 3, 2018. Issue
N. Texas, TFR Friday...VIP movement.
West Coast Ravens at Beale Air
Force Air Show ...360* video (huh?)
...clip sent to me by AX-O. If you have a
smart phone or tablet you can 'look around' during
playback by moving your phone. If your browser
supports it on your desktop you can change your view
by dragging your mouse.
I wonder if you'll do what I did -
move the phone to follow lead pitch up and over to
the right, then spin around to AX-O's head and watch
him alternate attention between the other three
planes and his panel as he gets configured for
landing. Neat video!!!
Gentle Reminder from the Mothership RE: FAA Registration
"It appears that a few members in our community
need a gentle reminder that a paper trail of
ownership needs to be on file before an 8050-2
Aircraft Bill of Sale can be issued by Van’s for any
RV aircraft. A plane may be comprised of kits
purchased from several different individuals, and as
long as there is documentation in the form of bill
of sales in the file for each component, an 8050-2
Aircraft Bill of Sale can be issued. If the
documentation does not exist, then the builder will
need to contact the FAA and register it using an
original make and model of his or her own device."
RV-Lancair Brotherhood Day ...snopercod
Today, Darwin and I flew to Hickory for a
cheesburger. There's a great little burger joint
right in the terminal. As an added bonus, there's
also an air museum there. The docents told us
there's having a "grand opening" of the P-3 Orion on
the 19th featuring the retired Admiral [?] who used
to be in charge of the entire fleet of sub hunters.
Burgers and hot dogs will be served.
I'm now an owner -)
Hi everyone. Thought I would introduce myself.
After a lot of searching which almost felt like a
quest at times, I am proud to officially join the
VANS community as an owner.
My first build was a Sonex. The goal was to see if I
liked owning and building. One of those was proved
true, I love owning my own plane. The other, not so
much. I love spending my time in the air, no
question about that.
The search for an RV took the better part of a year.
After a several failed attempts, followed by a
failed pre-buy, my luck changed and a perfect bird
popped up not far from my home base.
Thanks to Vic for all the help and time over the
past year. I have learned a lot and look forward to
learning from everyone.
I am now a proud owner of an RV-9A tip up powered by
an O-320. I've logged 14 hours in the past week and
couldn't be happier. So glad to be a Vans owner.
Hope to meet some of you at Oshkosh this year.
Another small step ...RepmikeBrown
Actually got to take her out for a stroll around
the the ramp for first time. A little fuel and taxi
Improving wingtip fit?
As I'm trial fitting the wingtips, and especially
when adding the rib, it looks like there is
noticeable distortion when riveting the curved tip
to a flat rib. I'm considering filling in that gap
with epoxy/flox mix. Anyone else try this, or see
RV flyin at Ramona (KRNM )
Just a reminder the Ramona RV flyin BBQ is
May 5, 10-2pm.
Always great to see a bunch of beautiful RVs on the
ramp at one time, Checkout the flier or contact me
Ongoing Maintainence ...Piper J3 RV-12
It looks like most ignition mounting bracket
failures are the stubby 90 degree brackets on the
back of the ignition coils. I have not had this
failure, but now at my latest oil change (325TT), I
noticed the long front bracket has failed just below
the 90 degree bend. This is PN 29 in the attached
drawing. The bracket is 0.080” Stainless Steel. I
have fabricated a new bracket from 1/8” mild steel
and added 1/8” to the overall width for additional
Attached photos show broken bracket and 1st
iteration of new bracket to test fit. A second more
professional bracket is now installed on the engine
know where I can get one of these?
...asking for a bud. I
started a thread.
6th (sort of) annual Cedar Meadows fly-in VA/WV ...May 26
Saturday May 26
Cedar Meadows Airpark, located between Winchester,
VA and Martinsburg, WV
Runway information: We are not on sectional charts,
but Highview Farms (61VA) is about 1 mile SE. RW
9/27 Left traffic.
3000 X 80 good turf. Pattern Altitude 1500. Monitor
Runway condition is suitable for "A" models. ALL
Wi-Fi available. Not broadband, but acceptable.
Schedule: Open at 9am. Food from 11am to 1 pm. Free
lunch. Menu TBD.
Formation demonstration courtesy Dragon Flight at
approximately 11am. Chicken bombing contest at 1pm.
Restroom on site.
Overnight camping allowed. Adult beverages begin at
5pm (or earlier) Probably grill again for dinner.
May 2, 2018. Issue
RV Hotel List
Updated and Current
PH Aviation Flap Actuator Install in a RV-7
Yesterday I finished the installation of a PH
Aviation flap actuator. This is a short post of the
fabrication and installation process. As the website
states, it's not a direct replacement. But it was
I first learned about this new actuator by reading
thread on VAF.
website where I purchased the actuator. First
thing I did was email Pat Hatch with some questions.
Pat answered really fast and was easy to communicate
So the installation... Pat's
instructions were for a RV-6. After looking the
plans over, I decided the edge distance for the
pivot bolt hole in the bracket was a little too
skinny for my tastes. So I did a little redesign.
I basically used some of the methods Van's uses for
their actuator and combined that with the RV-6
plans...shook it up a little and came out with a
nice installation. I kept the geometry the same as
the plans for the -6, so I didn't have to reinvent
the wheel and could use the rest of their plan
Just to get orientated, here's a photo from Pat's
website showing the difference between the Van's
installation compared to theirs.
Pat's is on the right, Van's on the left.
David Paule RV-3B Status Report
Rotating Wing Paint Rig
...seen at GLO Custom. I just thought it
was neat so I took some pics.
JCarne RV-7A Status Report
Well I received my replacement angle for the
firewall so I thought I would finish it up. Priming
was on Friday followed by an enormous amount of time
riveting the parts over the weekend. I can't believe
how time consuming riving the firewall was since the
plate had to be elevated for the flange. I must have
turned that firewall over a hundred times in the
process. Glad it's all riveted and I even got back
to the center section. Bolting some of the control
pieces on was fun!
May 1, 2018. Issue
Couple of nearly identical RV-8 schemes at Richmond
Made it the May Wallpaper.
Recent Anglo/American RV7 alliance.
Brian Delamater (some may remember
him?) spent 5 years (2008-13) building his RV7 then
had to stop for three years. He was then able to
restart work in 2016 but with much regret
circumstances meant that he was never able to finish
her. The right decision for Brian was to sell her,
and in Jan 2017 she was advertised, on here, from
his S.Carolina home.
This side of the pond (on the
south coast of England) I saw Brian's advertisement
and an Anglo/American deal was born! Brian was
meticulous in sending me everything to finish her
(except an engine and prop which had already been
sold 3 years earlier). She flew for the first time
last week, so one more RV7 can be added to the list
of flying RV7s, and here's a not very good youtube
video of her in flight.
Many thanks to Brian, who did a great job building
most of her, and many thanks to those of you who
helped Brian and me get her flying.
VAF Charity Cap Sighting
Chris Pratt at Angkor Wat, Siem Reap, Cambodia,
Went looking for ancient alien
landing sites as described on the History Channel. I
couldn’t seem to find any sites or spaceships. If
the ships were built out of sandstone like the rest
of the Wat that could explain why no evidence was
found – the ships burned up on entry into the
But seriously, it’s a truly impressive site built on
a massive scale. A bucket list item.
The spline-drive BC462-H as primary alternator- a success story!
Many hundreds of experimental and certified
aircraft sport B&C Specialty Product’s various
spline-driven alternators as backups, and by all
accounts they have an exemplary record for service
and reliability over the past 20+ years. With the
recent introduction of the more powerful BC462-H,
rated at 60 Amps output in the belt driven version,
I began thinking about using one as sole alternator
for my “electron-dependent” RV-7A.
The idea of eliminating the belt-driven unit up
front along with its HEAVY steel support brackets,
getting rid of the belt, and even milling the drive
pulley off of the flywheel is compelling. I’d be
reducing the polar moment of inertia, lowering
weight on the nose wheel, improving CG, and adding
the crowbar OV protection built into B&C’s external
regulator in one fell swoop. The quality and
reliability of B&C products is legendary.
Eagle's Nest Projects - Alex McGonegal 1st Solo - Central High
School (WI) ...R.E. Butcher
-Text msg received from Jim Senft, ENP Program
Director at Central high school, Westosha, WI.
“Ernie, we’re having a problem keeping fuel in the
tank of our RV-12, Falcon-1. It goes through the
tank, through the fuel lines, into the carbs, into
the cylinders, gets burned, and goes out the
exhaust. I think the issue is we now have some nice
weather and the kids are flying a lot… we now have
650 hours on Falcon-1!”
Shortly thereafter I received this email…
"Central High School STEM Aviation program is
celebrating another Solo. Senior Alex McGonegal has
become our latest Eagle’s Nest student to solo. It
was April 24th, a beautiful day in Burlington
Wisconsin just before sunset. Winds were light,
favoring runway 29. Alex and his flight instructor,
Mr. Dan Lund, just finished his lessons for the day.
Mr. Lund then gave Alex some last instructions
before exiting the aircraft; “Just fly the aircraft
like you have been taught”, he said. Alex proceeded
to runway 29, run-up checklist complete, traffic
call over the radio, taxied to 29 for takeoff. Alex
completed three nice landing before taking back to
Eagle’s nest hanger to have his shirt cut. Alex
plans to complete this private pilot license this
summer before heading to Michigan Technological
University this fall to study Chemical Engineering.
Congratulation to Alex and is flight instructor Dan
Lund." -Jim Senft
Stay tuned for more from Alex and Dan…
650 hrs condition inspection
...still, not much carb heat cable wear
PPG DC concept base paint and vinyl stripes
"Not a fancy scheme but 10 years
and 460 hours and still looks as good as new. Photo
taken last week, aircraft is hangared."
April 30, 2018. Issue
Friday I was
lucky enough to pull in to the airport in time to see a 4-ship
coming up initial (video).
The RVs are all 8's and are (I think) Sky, Plaster and Lurch.
We spotted a new church under the downwind leg for 17 recently (pic
/ map). Looks
like they laid out the two benches and cross so that the sunrise is
front and center. Nice touch, and very Texan with the nearby
deer feeder and cows grazing in the same pasture. Hangarmate
John and I unofficially dubbed it 'Aero Valley Downwind Church'.
;^) It compliments the
Officer Big Mac Jail under downwind for 35...(map).
Saturday was 00000kt all day so as expected the Granbury pancake
gathering was a hit (pics below). Sunday Mass, yard work and
Hope you had a nice RV weekend and that your Monday goes swell.
Granbury Pancake Fly-In Pics ...dr
It was nice seeing some folks I haven't seen in
too long. Flying over the swap meet at Texas
Motor Speedway on the way back was icing on the
Replacement Ignition Coil Bracket ...Brent -12
Been meaning to post this. I went ahead and
fabricated a very basic replacement ignition coil
bracket from some scrap aluminum angle I had in the
hanger. But, before installing it a friend at the
airport dropped by, who has a machine shop and also
an amazing basement workshop, and insisted that we
fabricate a more durable replacement out of 4140
steel that would be less prone to break again. I
shot this short video for our EAA chapter (we're
going to visit his basement in a few months). He
added a third side to the bracket to strengthen it,
but (not in the video) I needed to remove much of
that in order to be able to get a small wrench in
there to reinstall the bracket on the engine. Those
of you have have had to make this repair know how
tight it is in there.
Over engineered. YES. But was really interesting to
see a skilled machinist in action. After weeks of
maintenance in abnormally cold spring weather,
several SBs, and this last repair, the annual
inspection that wouldn't end is finally done...
P.S. if you check Lockwood's website, the
replacement bracket (# 851260) can be purchased for
something like $11 (surprisingly cheap compared to
most Rotax part prices). So if this one fails, I'm
obviously just going to buy the next one.
Esquenazi aces the Carolina Boogie.
The Carolina Boogie aerobatic contest is in the
record books and Jerry Equenazi flew his beautiful
RV-8 to a first place finish in a field of 10
Sportsman category competitors. Not only did he
finish first, but bested the nearest competitor by
over three percentage points!
C/S Prop Install on RV-4 ...Chris Olsen photos
...from Dayton Murdock's engine upgrade thread.
Don't Ignore Those Symptoms! ...TomVal
I hope sharing this with all of you may prevent
what almost happened to me.
I have been ignoring my difficulties in passing
urine for about a year. My annual blood test
revealed a highly elevated creatinine level.
I was immediately sent to a hospital for a urinary
tract ultrasound. I received a call by a urologist
the following day (April 24) to report immediately
to his office. I was asked during the call if I was
in pain…I said no…I happen to be working on my
Now at the office, the doctor said, “Do you realize
how sick you are?” I said, “No”. He replied, “If you
wouldn’t have come in today to begin treatment, you
would have been DEAD by May 7th. I said, “Oh my…that
doesn’t sound good!.”
So, I am sitting here with a catheter installed and
on meds. I see the doc on follow-up next Tuesday to
see what menu item he will select.
At age 70+, I have been blessed with good health but
I guess my stubbornness to acknowledge those
symptoms almost done me in…I must now recognize my
ironman days are over.
Please don’t ignore those symptoms.
Now…back to working on the airplane…need to finish
by May 7th (just in case)!
Borescope Pics - yellow deposits ...Chris Johnson 9A
Working on my condition inspection today, and
borescoped all cylinders. All the exhaust valves
look excellent (2 years, 200ish hours on the
cylinders). Compressions 74,76,78,78
Only odd thing is the yellowish deposits around (not
on) the valve face in in cylinder #4. Does not occur
in any other cylinders. Any comments?
Mothership Employment Opportunities
April 27, 2018. Issue
North Texas is
greening up nicely (iPic below from short .2 this a.m.). Some
good news at my home field - the new airport office has arrived.
The infrastructure is slowly but surely being made solid - more
here. Nearby Granbury has
their pancake fly-in breakfast this Saturday.
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend!
Q: How to build and fly a RV-14 to be QUIET?
Ok guys here's the question, what choice would
you make while building and how would you takeoff to
be as neighbor friendly and quiet as possible
(within reason). Im thinking a vetterman exhaust
with a muffler, maybe a 3 blade mt prop? Any other
ideas and how would you climb out?
Thanks, just brainstorming some ideas
muffler and then 3-blade to get the diameter down.
If you have plenty of runway and feel comfortable
with trading safety with neighbor relations: mark
where you get 2500rpm and do take offs with
if we look for good examples, (not necessarily
practical) you seem to see a trend; more prop
blades, lower tip speed, more cylinders, so each has
less 'bark' ( 6-cyl?), minimum rpm of the engine and
prop, mufflers, and pointing the exhaust up or
sideways at the very least.
airframe noise would be pretty minimal, perhaps not
worth going after those few decibels! I saw the
Lockheed skytamer at Arlington many years ago, it
was almost imperceptible flying over at 100'!!!
Garmin Pilot 9.3 Released
...some new features.
Reduced to $59K
SB 14-01-31 ...longranger
I've had the SB 14-01-31 repair kit for a couple
of years now, and thought I'd get it installed
before attaching the horizontal stabilizer to the
fuselage. The number of enlarged holes in the spars,
ribs, and angles (some of which date back to the
original construction) has been bugging me, so I
sent an email to Vans. Sterling concurred, so I am
replacing the front spars, attach and reinforcement
angles, inboard ribs, and new pre-drilled doublers.
I ordered parts Monday, and they are due Saturday.
Yesterday I started drilling out the front spars.
3-1/2 hours into it, I have the left front spar
removed, and am about 2/3 the way through the right.
Plexi: 7A Rebirthing ...kentlik
So I got this out of the storage unit today.
I need more room...Not sure what and where to move
what is in the way, but I will figure that out
tonight. Most of the stuff laying around in here has
a value to some project now or in the future.
The plastic is a bother and I plan on removing it
and just covering the canopy in tape for the most
part as Cajunwings did.
April 26, 2018. Issue
Check those Rudder/Elevator Counter Weight Bolts!
Make sure you are checking that your counter
weights are secured and the bolts are tight during
your inspections. This one required quite a bit of
work to access, but the loose counter weight screws
were hanging down and almost ready to jam the rudder
The same precaution holds true for the elevator
This is not the first time I've run into this.
PS: the big cut out was required because there is a
bulkhead that had to have holes drilled in it to
access the nuts, these tall rudders have these nuts
buried pretty good.
Hollywood Overfly How To?
Question for California locals. If you are on a
VFR photo mission near Hollywood Sign how would you
voice your request to ATC and where? The airspace
seems saturated and terrain pretty high. Can I just
talk to Burbank and ask? I've been on the other side
of San Gabriel Mountains couple times but never
crossed toward LA. The terminal chart looks very New
Yorkish wondering if air traffic is that organized.
Where else to fly scenic in the Basin?
Garmin Aera 660 V3.30 with Internet Weather
We are pleased to announce a significant free
software upgrade for the Aera 660. The V3.30 release
which is available NOW for download includes free
internet weather for parts of the world that provide
this data. All you need is an internet connection to
enjoy the benefits of internet weather while using
the Aera 660 at home and office.
The current software supports NEXRAD and METARS/TAFS
over the internet, with more internet weather
products coming in the future.
Here is an image taken during Sun N Fun when the
weather was making arrivals difficult.
G3X Training at OSH 2018
Hi VAF friends, long time no see!
In December I began working for Garmin in Olathe, KS
on the Aviation Product Support team. I develop and
deliver avionics maintenance and installation
training for avionics technicians. So far it's been
a great career move and I've learned a ton about
avionics systems... even the certified variety!
My team and I will be giving a series of 45-minute
training sessions for G3X installation and flying
each day at Oshkosh this year, and it's time to
start digging in and developing content. So I
figured, who better to ask about what to talk about
than you all??
If you're planning a G3X installation, what would
you like to know? What can we do to demystify the
system for you? If you've already gone through an
installation, what did you have trouble with? What
things could be clearer in the manuals?
I've posted a poll here, but if there's
something else you'd like to know, please reply in
the thread and I'll see what I can do.
Thanks-- & see you there!
Low compression, bore scope pics, carbon...
Routine oil change and FWF
inspection, expected no issues...
But the compression test; 74-78/80 on others, cly 2
50/80 first few tests, rotated prop several times,
got up to 64/80.
Late night did not listen for source of leak, but
did take the time to scope with new Vividia VA-400.
490 hour since new IO-360M1B
Exxon Elite 20W-50
No fuel or oil additives
Engine has not missed a beat.
Runs smooth even in LOP cruise operations
EGT and CHT normal ranges and matched close.
The proper way to make log book entries
Can any of my brethren here advise me on where to
start learning about the proper way to make log book
entries (Airframe, Engine, and Propeller) that would
help me with requirements and phrasing?
I am just getting ready to transition from building
the airframe to installing the engine, and would
like to learn the proper way to indicate that SB's
and letters have been complied with, and also
prepare for the happy day when I can include
maintenance as well.
As in everything else aviation, I am sure there are
the official regs, and possibly an easier to follow
aftermarket book perhaps, but I do not know where to
One of the Best Uses of Quotes in a Reply I've Ever Seen ...dr
New Flap Actuator for the RV-10!
We will no longer have to deal with an external flap
position sensor on the RV-10!
I just finished installing one of the prototype flap
actuators from PHAviation.com. These actuators have
a BUILT IN potentiometer for position information,
so say goodbye to the external sensor mounts and
Here is a side by side comparison of the actuators:
Skidding and Slipping Departures from Controlled Flight in an RV
Forgive the old video; but unfortunately I don't
have the originals on my laptop hard drive...
The first clip is a demonstration of a skidding
departure in my RV-4. In a skid, the airplane
rapidly departs underneath when the critical angle
of attack is exceeded. There is very limited
aerodynamic warning in the form of buffet and nose
slice visual cues. The fastest recovery (minimum
altitude loss) is to actually keep the roll going
after the initial snap roll to an inverted position:
A Firewall Detail and a Spar Bulkhead Fitting Issue ...David
There are two areas in the assembly of the
firewall and the spar bulkhead build-up where a
builder might make an error like I did.
The first is on the bottom of the firewall. There's
a 3/4 x 3/4 x 1/8 angle that gets riveted to the
firewall. It should NOT be flush to the flange.
Instead, don't forget to allow a .040 gap for the
F-321 forward belly skin.
Here's what it will be when you're done:
High Oil temps - Louvers vs Cowl Flap
Now that summer is approaching, I'm thinking
again about what I need to do to lower the oil temps
in my 7A.
I have "real" S&W oil cooler mounted on the left
rear baffle. I've worked hard making sure my baffle
seals are good and that I've sealed all the gaps
between the engine and the baffles. Despite all that
I've done, when it gets really hot outside, my oil
temps run consistenly at 210 F or above. It not
unusually for me to see 220 - 230+. I even sent my
oil cooler to Pacific Oil coolers to have it
I just bought a pair of aluminum louvers from
Cleaveland tools and started searching the forums
for installation hints. In the course of my research
I came across some old threads on the Anti-splat EZ
So my question is: For those of you that have
installed either the EZ Cool Flap or the Cleaveland
louvers, what impact did they have on your Oil
I'm particularly interested in reviews of EZ Cool
FYI. I don't have a problem with my CHT's - just oil
April 25, 2018. Issue
Tuesday 0630 I
climbed in the RV for a flight over to Bridgeport (KXBP) for gas,
then over to Propwash (16X) for a 5-ship brief at Lurch's hangar.
Time to sweep out some formation cobwebs. Today's batting
order: Lurch, Scroll, Monkey, me, Scorch. Three pics
below: 1. warm up ramp at KXBP a few minutes after sunrise, 2. track
of the formation practice and 3. my heart rate during the flight
(starting around 0835). I think the spikes are the rejoins -
the far right one the 5-ship echelon in the bumps up initial <g>.
Great lead, Lurch!
Couldn't have asked for a better morning - the winds and
crud return Wed a.m. so I'm glad we got to do this.
Final Report; 2016 RV-4 fatal accident ...hit zipline.
private pilot and passenger in the experimental,
amateur-built airplane were seen flying at low
altitude by several witnesses in various locations
before the accident. The witnesses reported the
engine was operating before the airplane descended
into trees. Postaccident examination of the
airplane, wreckage path, and a nearby zipline
zipline map dr]
revealed damage consistent with the outboard section
of the right wing having contacted the 1/2-inch
galvanized zipline cable. There were no mechanical
malfunctions or anomalies with the airplane or
The cable ran between wooden platforms on the east
and west sides of a river about 170 ft above ground
level. The location of the platforms in wooded areas
and the fact that the cable was unmarked likely made
the zipline difficult to see. Witness statements and
the accident scenario indicate the pilot operated
the airplane at extremely low altitudes throughout
Toxicological testing of the pilot was positive for
ethanol and tetrahydrocannabinol (THC, the primary
psychoactive substance in marijuana). The blood
level of ethanol was below the regulatory limit;
however, pilots may be impaired below this
threshold. The finding of THC indicated that the
pilot had used marijuana sometime before the
accident; however, since there is no accepted
relationship between blood levels and degree of
impairment, whether the impairing effects of THC
contributed to the accident could not be determined.
Probable Cause and Findings
The National Transportation Safety Board determines
the probable cause(s) of this accident to be:
The pilot's decision to fly at a low altitude, which
resulted in the collision with a zipline.
of wreckage dr]
RV Accident Probable Cause Listings
Pics from Mr. X
I have friends that work in the Trop.
non-sterile cruise that I'll add to this gallery
from time to time.
Piano Hinge Failure ...snopercod
I had one of the "lugs" (I don't
know the proper name), crack off on one of my gear
door hinges. I understand that RVs use lots of these
MS20001-P5 extruded aluminum hinges so I'm posting
this for discussion:
You will notice that the throats
in these old hinges have almost no radius at the
corners - I estimate .005" max, and all edges are
sharp. It's my belief that a fatigue crack started
in the sharp corner where the actuator arm bolts on
(the dirty area in the photo). The replacement hinge
stock which just arrived from ACS has a nice radius
in those corners - I estimate .020" - but the edges
are still sharp. So I just ordered some Craytex
wheels which I intend to use in my Dremel to break
all those sharp edges to eliminate stress risers.
Comments or suggestions?
202kts GS ...Chattin35
...I'm in! Made it with
normal cruise config
April 24, 2018. Issue
TJ Stack's RV-10 Towbar
...came with the plane when he bought it.
Seen at Monkey's shop 4/23/18. I thought it
was different...so, you know....take some pictures.
Evening flight with my daughter ...Levi Self RV-6A
My daughter (almost 4) asked to go flying. Even
though it was almost bed time, I wasn't going to
pass up the opportunity. I looked at the wife, and
she said, "okay". Off we went to the airport for a
sunset flight. While flying she asked to go up and
down. After maneuvering for a while she said, in a
matter of fact voice, "okay daddy, fly straight." I
I capture a short video of her reaction "going up
and down". It will bring a smile to your face.
Flight From KRVH (San Jose, CA) to Healdsburg Plus Santa Rosa Fire Tour
It's been a while since I've flown. Between rain,
cold, vacation, dead battery, and just plain old
regular life, I just couldn't get in the air.
Yesterday I was supposed to take my 1973 VW Thing to
the local VW show but it filled up 5 minutes before
I tried to sign up. I decided to make lemonade out
of lemons and go on a flight.
My primary mission was to fly up and see my good
friend Dave and make him buy me breakfast. I'm happy
to report, it worked!
My route was the typical one I take up there. I go
along the east foothills, east of Hayward (where my
love for flying started as a kid watching the planes
fly over the mall on their way to land at HWD), east
of Oakland, over Berkeley, Petaluma, Santa Rosa, and
finally to my destination. I fly below the SFO Class
B and to the east of the OAK Class C.
I decided to get Flight Following both ways since
I'm a bit rusty with those skills. I typically take
this route and talk to nobody but getting FF was a
You Never Know What You'll See
The winds and rain were strong over the last few
days, so our local bunch didn't have a good
opportunity to go fly until Sunday around sunset,
when the winds finally died down.
I took up the
RV-6 to hopefully catch the sunset, but clouds
mucked it up. Plan B was to climb up to a
cloud shelf that was passing over the area.
Around 6K I reached the edge, and the view was worth
5 min to sunset. Cloud shelf upper right.
Above it outside class B.
Driving home. Venus just visible above the shelf.
Milestone: Wings to fuselage ...Mark Malone RV-7
After 5 moves 9 years and two kids I hit a big
mile stone this week. a friend and I built a
fuselage cradle for transporting the fuselage to a
friends hangar to mate the wings to the fuselage. I
have been impressed with this kit how everything
lines up and fits with very little effort. We
installed the wings and the first time there was
only 1/4" forward sweep on both wings. The incidence
had only 2 tenths twist between the root and tip.
Very negligible. I was able to step drill up to the
number 5 bolt. Three days of very rewarding progress
with some old friends. Here are pics and a builders
Announcement!! JD Air Parts
JD Air parts is alive and well. However, we are
making a transition and I'll be taking over the
reigns of the company. My partner in this endeavor,
Jason Krause, has become highly successful with
several contracts to make parts for ATV's and other
off road vehicles. In other words, he's making real
money and must focus on that. I don't blame him.
With this success Jason simply cannot afford to shut
down the machines from the ATV business making
thousands of parts to JD Air making 50 to 100 parts
in a run.
During this transition we will be there for
questions and warranty and service work on existing
products. We are not going anywhere!!!
I will keep everyone informed when we are up and
running. At this time, I have no exact time frame
but I will be focusing on getting things going as
expeditiously as possible.
Finally, there will be all the current great
products and some new ones as well. I sincerely
thank you for the business and support over the
years. Be patient and you'll see the new beginning
as soon as possible.
Darwin N. Barrie
April 23, 2018. Issue
Byrd's Adventure Center
I spent the weekend with four friends at the
Byrd's Adventure Center in Northwest Arkansas and
thought I'd pass along a little trip report.
This was my second visit. Last time I camped along
the river in my tent and spent the weekend hiking
around and enjoying the occasional "hitch-hike"
This year's plan was a little different since Zen
and Pam (owners) have just commissioned two very
nice new cabins - the "Bush Pilot" and the "Aviator"
- we decided to sleep indoors. These are brand new
and very nice - very wife/girlfriend worthy! Also,
no hitch-hiking required this year since I brought
my mountain bike and my friends drove in with their
If you're not familiar with Byrd's, they are located
in the Ozark Mountains along the Mulberry River.
They offer trails for hiking, mountain biking,
motorcycling, 4 wheelers, rock crawlers. The river
offers kayaking, canoeing, and fishing. A restaurant
and store are on site as well.
Van's at Mojave Experimental Fly-in 4/21
Great day weather-wise to fly up to Mojave for
the fly-in. Warm temps, not much wind, clear skies.
I took a bunch of photos here.
It was nice to meet up with everyone. I must have
run into a dozen or more people from the VAF
Caverns of Sonora ...Vlad the Traveller!
A good friend of mine Leo tried hard to help with
logistics. Airport van was not allowed to drive that
far. There was no rent-a-car outfit in Sonora and
there was no Uber. A call to the Caverns office
yielded a "maybe" pickup. And then we met Edward.
RV-Lancair Brotherhood Day
I had been waiting for good
weather on a weekend so I could fly to Columbia SC
[Owens KCUB] and check out the Brewery in the old
Wright hangar. Yesterday was finally it; It was an
absolutely beautiful flying day. My neighbor I flew
down early from AVL to partake of the EAA pancake
breakfast (Those guys were great!), and Owen flew in
at 11AM to meet me.
Van's Aircraft booth at Aero Friedrichshafen 2018
Hi, Just visited the Van's booth and took this
quick photo - had a nice chat with Gus, who's a real
credit to the organization. Click on the photo for a
larger version. The weather here could not be
Mickey Coggins photo
Klaus Peter photo
Hot, start, Click ???? Anyone else?
Short version: flew - landed, sat 20 min, lack of
starter engagement on restart. Click - -
Anyone else had this happen with the SkyTec LW
Long Version background:
RV7 - SJ Cowl
YIO-360 M1B - stock - w/SkyTec LW starter
14 hours into PH I
Moderate OAT 45 F, flew 45 min made a good landing
and decided take a water break. The plane sat with
no wind for 30 min, then got to starting - just a
click, 10 times ( maybe more, it was a lot) Click-
clearly the start contactor on the firewall, but no
other sounds. Finally, kept up the attempts and it
engaged and spun and started. Until that, nothing
but clicks. The voltage did not drop either.
The plan is to decowl and run some wires to test
1. to starter via large cable,
2. voltage to the start engage wire from the FW
In addition, place a thermocouple on the starter
solenoid (for SkyTec techs)
Bad FW Starter contactor - not passing voltage to
Hot starter solenoid - needing more voltage for pull
in than available
I pull tested all the big terminals by hanging (me)
from them. Book pull test is 525 lbs and granted I
am only 150, but not loose. This only happens when
it is hot, this is the second time for the click
First Flight Question
one is for those that have gone before me.
The first flight of my RV14 is not far off, and I
just wanted to get an idea of what I can expect
regarding handling quality.
I notice that a lot of RV14’s have a permanent trim
tab on the Right hand bottom side of the rudder, on
the opposite side to my RV7 which would indicate the
left rudder is generally required. Is this the case
for all RV14’s?? Is there any other handling
qualities that could be expected?
I know there will be variations from build to build
but this one is pretty much a Cookie cutter build as
per the plans with IO-390 and hartzell BA.
Disaster! I’m seriously depressed.
All that was left on my rudder was the riveting
of the trailing edge and rolling the leading edge. I
used Proseal on the wedge instead of tape, so after
it cured I was clearing the holes of excess Proseal
and discovered that almost all of the TE holes were
double drilled (binocular).
Thinking back I know exactly where this happened. I
used a rectangular steel tube to cleco the TE
against. I match drilled holes using the TE as a
guide. It served its purpose well. I had a perfectly
straight TE. I just didn’t use enough care in the
match drilling the tube.
The holes look to be about 15 to 20 percent oblong.
I think I’m going to buy new parts and rebuild the
rudder. I’m not comfortable with such a defect. The
cost is about $320 plus shipping. This is a hard
lesson to learn. It’s not the cost that bothers me
as much as the 40 or so hours I have to spend
rebuilding the rudder.
How did you buck these rivets? ...-14
I'm having a hard time figuring out how to buck
the rivets depicted in the red oval. Looking for
some advice. Please keep in mind that this is a
taildragger so there is a large bracket that goes
right down the middle of the floor.
Have I just stuffed my Pneu Squeezer?
So today I was using the squeezer to squeeze some
rivets for a bracket on the cowl. I was using epoxy/flox
on the bracket and I’m 99.99% certain I didn’t get
epoxy in the stem of the flat set.
In any case, wherever I try I can’t get the set out
of the adjustable piston of the squeezer !!
Does anyone know if I can try to tap it out from
underneath? I’ve tried everything!! It won’t even
twist in place if I hold the piston with a spanner
and try and twist with pliers.
Did I Break It? ...-12
Well, I guess if it ain't broke, I should leave
At the last inspection I noted that one of the
floats was at 4.2. The others were at 3.1, 3.2, and
3.3. Total engine time was 315 hrs.
I had planned to install the new torsion throttle
springs anyway, so I bought a full set of new floats
and installed them at the same time. By the way,
each new float weighted in at 3.2. I fired it up,
warmed it up, and performed the carb balance.
Everything was great and it ran terrific (smooth as
glass). The next morning I was off for a breakfast
fly-in, or so I thought. After warm up I did the
normal ignition check and found Ignition A was
faltering badly. I shut down and did the simple
thing first. I swapped all of the plugs top to
bottom and bottom to top. Sure enough, the problem
moved to ignition B. I don't mess with iffy plugs,
and even though this set only had 115 hours on them,
I installed a new set. All was well, smooth as glass
again and run up was great.
That brings me to this morning when I was planning a
nice morning flight. Having just been through some
issues, I was very attentive at startup, which
seemed good with everything running smooth. After
warm up I did the ignition test and all was good. I
powered up for takeoff and noticed some stuttering,
and promptly aborted the take-off. Additional ground
run testing revealed that it is running very rough
at almost any rpm, and ignition check shows no
difference using A or B. So, I shut down and pulled
it back into the hangar. A finger swipe in tail pipe
revealed extremely heavy soot. I pulled the top
plugs and found #1 and #3 totally black whereas #2
and #4 looked pretty good. Obviously the right carb
is running way too rich. ***THIS WAS AN ERROR***
Actually it was spark plugs #1 And #2 that were
sooty. #3 and #4 were the ones that looked pretty
good. So it ain't the carbs!!! So, my last paragraph
here doesn't hold up, but I left it for
I think that I have identified the fact the the
right carb is running rich. The problem is knowing
why, and what happened? I'm not much of a believer
in coincidence, so I am trying to figure out how I
could have possibly caused this, or where do I go
from here.? Any help will be greatly
April 20, 2018. Issue
you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend.
22° Halo seen above
52F Thurs (storms soon).
Status Report ...jcarne 7A
Time for a good ole fashion priming and riveting
session. Note: priming the flap brace was a pain
trying to scuff it!
I also built a wing cradle with the posts used for
the left wing jig.
The 'washer trick' cooling plenum modification. ...Jack Groat
I want to knock a few degrees of my #6 cylinder
head temps, and I've heard tell of a quick-and-dirty
plenum modification called the 'washer trick' which
apparently entails fitting a flat washer on the back
side of the plenum to space it out away from the
Looking at and all around my #6 cylinder I'm not
seeing a place where that can be done. The #5
cylinder has a handy plenum attachment screw right
on the back surface, but I'm finding no such screw
on the #6 cylinder.
I've already constructed a plenum bypass duct for
the #5 cylinder, which I just completed yesterday
and I'll find out this weekend how well it works,
and I want to make a quick mod to the #6 cylinder
while I still have everything torn apart. If I can
just knock 10 degrees off it I will call it good.
Obituary: Mr. Thomas H. Irlbeck
RV-8 builder/pilot. Friend to many.
Check Those Bolts are Pointed the Right Way ...Sibirsky
Nobody is perfect, not all ...DanH
Nobody is perfect, not all the time anyway. Think
about all the crazy stuff builders do, multiply by
all the usual airworthiness issues, and the answer
is about 7 digits.
It's not easy guys. I was on a TC visit this
afternoon. Look at this:
A oval swage sleeve, aka a Nicopress (TM)
fitting. Pretty innocuous, yes? Well, this builder
was using aluminum swage sleeves, so there
are at least 12 of them in the elevator and rudder
cables of his Zenith, all totally unairworthy...and
all covered with heat shrink tubing. The correct
sleeve is copper, plain or zinc plated for
galvanized cable, or tin plated for stainless cable.
Pretty good chance someone would have died following
a heavy pull on the stick. Any inspection is better
OT: Bragging on my Wife
Susie volunteers at Medical City Denton.
She and the other volunteers were honored by the
hospital at the annual 'thank you' shindig at nearby
UNT. Students majoring in hotel services
cooked the food and served it wonderfully. A
nice dinner with some nice people who help strangers
who are usually under a lot of strain.
She got her '500 hour' pin that will hang on her tag...
Pretty neat folks. I'm quite fond of one them.
Storing Wings ...John S
Here is what I did for my wings, just prior to
roof and sides going on. It is out of luaun with
some cedar strips inside to keep the bugs away.
Canopy Rail Support ...RV-12
The roll bar support arm, a part of the canopy
rail on the completed Mk 1 fuselage is easily bent.
There is a tendency for pilot and/or passenger to
put their weight on this piece when exiting the
airplane. On the latest fuselage for the iS/U the
factory has addressed this issue by adding a
April 19, 2018. Issue
the early push of the Thursday edition (5pm Wed DFW). Thank
you dinner for the volunteers at the nearby hospital (Susie
volunteers there). Corny dog city for the Tater ;^).
Ground Shot...Nigel's 9A
Tributes to Mr. Tom Irlbeck
like to add my comments to the passing of Tom
Irlbeck. He was one of the mainstays of the Twin
Cities RV Builders group. I had known Tom for over
25 years. I gave him his BFRs for the last 10 years
or so. A great friend and a great aviator. Here my
thoughts on our
As others have said, Tom was quite a guy, friendly,
approachable, yet larger than life in the best
Tom gave my wife her first ride in his Blue RV-8
"Bear" where she had such a good time in his plane,
but more so with him, that she was grins all
weekend! I sent his name in to Van's as the person
who referred me so he could get as he called it,
My favorite Tom story was from a breakfast trip the
Twin Cities group took up to Superior, WI for
breakfast. One of us would give a position report
over a little town on the way up, and no matter what
the town, with perfect timing, Tom would chime in
with, "I used to know a girl in that town". We'd all
laugh, and just knew, Tom was always a true Naval
He was the best, and we will all miss him.
Tom was a huge part of our EAA66 at page in ft Myers
He was more than a mentor.
In my two short years knowing Mr Irlbeck he was
always available and made time for who needed his
advice. The young eagles he flew always had that RV
The RV world lost an all star.
My prayers are to his family
For those in Wisconsin
(Thursday) 7pm Founder's Wing at EAA Aviation Museum
milestone today. I finished installing wings,
plumbing, wiring and checked all of my aileron up
and down movements. The stick movement seemed a
little heavy left and right but ok forward and aft.
I probably wouldn’t have ever second guessed the
heaviness had there not been another RV4 in the
hanger next to me. It’s movements were effortless,
but I did have the servos connected from an auto
pilot installed. I thought maybe this added the
extra drag in the controls. Not satisfied I
disconnected the aileron servo and still had the
heavy stick both left and right. I start with left
and right aileron bushings/washers, any possible
rubbing of close parts. Moved on to the aileron push
rods checking all rod end bearings and washers. Next
the bell crank and then the large push rod tubes all
moving freely I install them back and still heavy
left /right movement on stick. I examine the stick
control for binding or interference, and then
finally removed the heim bearings for inspection.
I’m down 2 days so far, but finally found the
culprit. The rear heim bearing has been damaged
ever so slightly. The small crease on the brass
has also creased the interior of the housing race
causing the bearing to bind. I just wished I’d
started looking from that point first. Lesson
Van's at Mojave Experimental Fly-in 4/21
announced that Rian Johnson from Van's will be
at Mojave for the fly-in this weekend. It's not
clear if this will be an 'official' Van's presence.
Well, I thought my 223kts GS yesterday was fast
....then Bill Peyton hands me my head with this
Too much slack in tailwheel chains? ...sorta a primer war
There's another post about using or not using
flaps in cross wind landings. Let me throw a new
wrinkle in this discussion. I "think" I've got too
much slack in my tailwheel chains, making it take
longer when I hit the rudder pedals for the rudder/tailwheel
to react in strong crosswinds. What say the rest of
you guys? Do you have your chains really tight, ie,
no slack? Slightly loose? Or really loose?
I think I need to take a link or 2 out of my
tailwheel chains---but I'd like to get some input
April 18, 2018. Issue
256.62mph Groundspeed in Level Flight ...RV-6.
Tuesday just north of 52F. 50kt tailwind
(bottom left) at 3,250'. TAS 174kt. I
took a picture....I thought I might need proof.
Note autopilot scoreboard - ON in HDG mode (and
flight path marker on horizon). I think 2-3
degrees more to the right might have given me
You might have guessed Tuesday was sort of windy
around DFW. ;^)
I think I've reached a solution!
(from Nihon_Ni's 'Please critique my electrical
I wanted to post an update to my design. I really
appreciate all the help folks have given me with my
design, and all the time they have spent to review
my architecture and offer input. Special thanks to
Joe and Carl, who sent me tons of info in email and
helped me figure all this out.
I contacted EMag and got an answer to my dilemma
about where to put the P-mags:
Interesting day today, lots of smoke in the cockpit! ...Walt
So while doing a small panel upgrade for a
customer I had a bit a meltdown on his aircraft. The
panel mounted Lightspeed CB, with open and bare
terminals was connected directly to the battery, and
was located right under the xpdr rack I was
replacing (within about 1/8"). Well as soon as the
rack came loose it came into contact the uninsulated
terminals. (of course I was unaware at the time that
this situation existed with a hot bus right below
I can tell you this, there was a ton of smoke
accompanied by some small flames as the wiring began
to burn, disintigrate and melt. All the switches and
master were off so there was no killing this thing
and it just continued to burn until the wiring
finally burnt thru. I was scrambling to get the cowl
off so I could disconnect the battery, but by the
time I got if off the wires has already burnt thru
and opened up.
So whats the moral to this story, do not run 'HOT'
unprotected (no fuse, CB, contactor controlled)
wires into the cockpit. This situation could have
easily presented itself from any number of causes
(loose hardware, wires, breaker, switches getting
loose etc.) If this would have happened in flight
there was no way to kill power to the burning wires,
and trust me with a closed canopy you would be in
serious trouble fast. I was really pretty amazed at
how much smoke there was, in the air this likely
would have ended badly.
For your Hot battery busses (this includes battery
charger pig tails) there should ALWAYS be a fuse (or
some type of circuit protection) located at the
battery to prevent this kind of thing from
MILESTONE - today
John Bender RV-12......1,200 hours.
Panel Porn ...Flying EMT
Here are the before - after shots of my panel
after a complete redo. Took one week just to mark
and take out the old stuff, I basically removed
every wire except the wing runs. Panel cut by
UpNorth aviation who was fantastic to work with.
Flying with a borrowed 470 until Dynon ships my 472.
Dynon has been great to deal with. Ben
Article w/RVs ...
April 17, 2018. Issue
A little .3 Monday
a.m. after an oil change over the weekend. SMOOTH, calm air
between DFW wind storms presented the opportunity to do an overhead
break to constant radius, downwind-to-final turn at idle power.
AOA on the donut. Radius measured later on GoogleMaps at
2,290' from low key. Groundtrack below from the Apple watch
workout app (it thinks I'm on a bicycle). ;^). No drips post
flight. All good.
What amazing aircraft, these RVs.
Baseline Tuft Testing (W/O Sub Cowl)
I removed our SubCowl, tufted the
belly and recorded the results. The exit flow from
the Sam James cowl was pretty good. Better than we
expected. Looking closely at the sub cowl we can see
where the radius at the rear lip is too steep, or
sharp. We may cut this area out and reglass with a
larger radius. Yep, Experimental
aviation is fun.
Related: Coanda Effect...courtesy
Mr. Mike Starkey
SnF Grand Champion - Kit Homebuilt ...Pat Hatch post
Congratulations to our friend and
hangar neighbor here in Vero Beach, Tom Savrda,
who's newly painted (he painted it himself) RV-7 won
grand champion at Sun 'n Fun.
I must say this was richly deserved--I have never
seen a nicer RV-7 in terms of the quality of the
build, fit & finish, and attention to detail.
Here are a few pix:
Top Skin and Canopy Decks ...Tdeman RV-7 pics
In order to finalize the position of the ribs and
sub panel, I made a bunch of small angles that
spanned the notches/had the cutouts required for the
sub panel and stiffener.
Measuring Lycoming Pushrod Length
Consider the "Approximate Length" listed in
Is the given dimension based on the theoretical tip
of the hemisphere (top), or is it measured from flat
to flat (bottom)? Or is it something else entirely?
April 16, 2018. Issue
Denali 4-14-2018 ...mbauer trip write-up (multiple parts!)
Denali is the tallest land-based mountain on
Earth—with a vertical rise of about 18,000 feet
(5,500 m), as well as the highest mountain peak in
North America—with a summit of 20,310 feet (6,190 m)
With a topographic prominence of 20,156 feet
(6,144 m) and a topographic isolation of 4,629 miles
(7,450 km), Denali is the third most prominent and
third most isolated peak, after Mount Everest and
Aconcagua. Located in the Alaska Range in the
interior of the of Alaska, Denali is the centerpiece
of Denali National Park and Preserve.
Getting PPL While Building ...Andrew Atalla timeline
Is it hard work? yes! Will you want to
I started My PPL training in May of 2014.
Bought my tail kit second hand in September 2015.
PPL Completed in December 2017 - 14 000$ CAD.
76 HRS. Rudder and Horz and Vert Stab complete
Still working on elevators...
Since I started:
Met a girl August 2014
Got Married 2017
Bought a house 2017
Baby Boy 04/07/2018
I'm still moving forward!....Slowly. Life gets
busy and hobby/family balance is more important than
anything. The important thing you need to take
from this is Small Progress is still Progress
Baby steps add up to Big dreams. One day I'll
be flying an aircraft I built with my own two hands
rivet by rivet!
Panel Upgrade ...tfriendshuh 8A
"...recently got my IFR
rating, so I needed to upgrade my panel :-)"
Ground Pic ...mbauer
Topping off my RV-6 for a local
flight. 4-14-2018. Pulled up to the pump and guess
what was also fueling for a flight? Actually
it was taking on a load of Jet-A to fly out to
Reached a milestone in my project, got the top
wing skins riveted on the port wing. Starting to
look like an airplane.
Milestone: Wings ORDERED! ...Lynn Dixon RV-7
"Here is a spreadsheet I
came up with to help me on my order..."
Tablet/iPad Tray ...Aerosport1
Status Report ...control -14
Hope it stays this good when the hinges are in
April 13, 2018. Issue
Quick reminder that
tech support at the factory is out at various fly-ins. From
the site, "It’s a busy time here at Vans Aircraft, several air
shows happening around the world and our support team is out there.
So, now, is a great time to get out and meet them in person at the
shows. They are looking forward to meeting you too."
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend.
The Texas Loop ...Capt Sandy
This past week our magic carpet has taken us from
Lake Havasu, Arizona to Fredricksburg, Texas. Of
course we did not take the straight route. Here are
some highlights - Working Backwards:
Today we’re headed to T31, Areo Country, in
Fredricksburg, T82, Yesterday we arrived at The
Hangar Hotel for a bit of R&R, resting from our
travels as it were. The officers club is a nice
place to relax, have a drink and play billiards. We
sort of needed the drink after the 30 knot cross
wind landing. Hangar Hotel is plush, but no easily
available ground transport. We found a couple of
restaurants within walking distance. Hilda’s
Tortilla House was our choice. Great Food.
Reasonable price, and the tortillas really are
Canopy Latch Retro Fit ...Tony T RV-12
Installed the new canopy latch and can confirm
that it does work a bit smoother and easier than the
old set-up plus the safety catch is a more robust
design; the old safety catch seems trivial in
comparison. The canopy handle rests on UHMW plastic
when in the taxi position instead of on the metal
Newbie here... Planning on building a RV10 ...Dubai / Houston
My name is Huzi, and I am in the planning stages of
my RV10 build... I must admit I do not know a ton
about these kits/planes, and will be studying up as
much as I can through the forums...
I hope you guys can help me with some initial
1) What are the recommended tools (in addition to
the list on Vans website) that will help with the
2) What are the recommended mods builders have to
the factory kit?
My goal is to have a 4 seater plane that I can fly
cross country/neighboring countries with relative
Thank you in advance!
RV-7A Rebirthing Status Report ...kentlik
My slider frame is not moving
where I need it to. Aggressive action needed.
Goodish side (below). Left side pin low and
hits receiver block center low... suggestions?
RV-6 For Sale at 52F ...Monkey Approved.
$64K. phone: (817) 4
zero 1 - -8 zero nine 6. (details)
April 12, 2018. Issue
Gusting a billion in
N.TX today so what time was spent out at the hangar was spent
fiddling with stuff and working on the laptop. Sorta spooling
up for an oil change, took a picture (below) and did other things
between interwebs. Windy again tomorrow so I'll probably spent
some time in dirty oil. Or not. Absolutely on the
RV-14 Internal Cockpit Covers ...bmarvel
"...My wife got the material at a Jo Ann's fabric
shop but we don't know what it is called. It is much
thicker than bed sheets and has sort of a smooth
waxy texture to it. We used acrilan for the RV-8A
cover but it wasn't available here. Anything white
will do. The only drawback is that since it is
inside, if you have any leaks in the forward edge of
the canopy where it mates to the fuselage, you will
have to make up some sort of temporary overnight
cover if rain is expected. I still need to test this
further but my plan is to use some white electric
tape wherever I find any leaks."
RV-8 O-360 Temps and Fuel Flow issues
Just wanted to push out to all of you to see what
you guys think about some of the engine issues I
have. O-360, fixed pitch, dual P-Mags, Dynon D10
EMS. CYL #3 runs VERY hot even on cold days, even in
cruise with CYL 2, 4 not too far behind. CYL 1 runs
much cooler than the others. You can see some temps
I see on climb and cruise taken on a winter day at
altitude. Anything slower than a 100 KT climb will
have my #3 CHT shoot to above 430 rapidly.
Also on climb out and WOT I will see my fuel
pressure typically drop quickly from a nominal 3-4
PSI to .5 and 0 PSI which sets off the alarm. I've
noticed this is often accompanied by an increase in
fuel flow. Turning on the electric pump will push
these up to 4. Securing the electric pump, the PSI
will gradually decrease again to .5-0. Once
throttling back to cruise settings the fuel pressure
will climb back to nominal.
I am wondering if any of you have any ideas on the
fuel flow and the over heating. What's a good way to
check the baffles? Are there any good plenums out
there for my configuration that has shown good
success in cooling so I can do away with worrying
about baffles? Searching through the threads it
seems adding a washer helps with cooling but I'm not
quite sure where that washer is being added....any
photos to show this?
Otherwise the motor runs nicely and no noticeable
performance issues associated with the drop in fuel
Any input is greatly appreciated!
RV-Lancair Brotherhood Day ...4/11 entry
It's been a long winter, but the weather is
finally getting better. Owen, Steve, and I flew down
to Spartanburg [KSPA] for lunch at Jason's Deli
again. Darwin's RV-4 was down for maintenance, and
Bill R. had to work (poor devil). One crew van was
out, and the other was grounded for a mechanical
problem, so the FBO loaned us their airport truck to
drive to Jason's. I bought 18 gals. of 100LL, but
the RVs both used Mogas.
The glare from Owen's freshly-polished RV-12 gave me
a headache. He also finished his rear spar mod per
"Washer Trick" Alternative ...Bill
Here is one way, but the baffle would have to be
removed for this. It provides air to an additional
15 in^2 of fins. The flashing should be removed and
head polished at the same time. Why have the fins
and allow them to be blocked off? This provides a .2
X 2" slot for air flow, at 5-15 in-h2o pressure that
is a lot of air directly applied to cooling.
Panel Porn ...titanhank
Not the latest and greatest, but alot better than
it was and did not break the bank. About $8000 to
upgrade by buying all the dynon stuff used.
Garmin gtr 200
Garmin gtx 335
Ray allen g407 grips
Converted to electric trims and flaps
April 11, 2018. Issue
Tuft Testing RV-8 Sub-Cowl ...JP White video
My partner and I felt we were
overcooling our O-360 XP so he designed and built a
sub-cowl to reduce the exit opening and reduce
cooling drag. We expect the reduction in exit
opening will increase the CHT and oil temp. Testing
has been limited due to weather and schedule but we
have noticed a very modest increase in CHT and oil
temp. I tufted the belly around the exit and
recorded the flight to get an idea of how the
sub-cowl disturbed the airflow. The test was at
3000' and 160 - 170 mph. A link to a short video is
attached. RV-8 with custom plenum and Sam
James Cowl. Carbureted 360XP with Mags. FP Cato 3
"The ramp surface of your sub cowl is separated
because the angle is too steep, so there is too much
adverse pressure gradient.
I trust that the leading edge of your sub cowl
blends smoothly into the round lip at the front of
the stock cooling channel? If not, then the flow is
separating off of a sharp corner. If yes, then it is
an adverse gradient problem as stated above.
This is just one of the reasons why it is far better
to throttle the exit by making the actual cowl fair
into to a smaller opening rather than add a bulge to
the belly. The other reason of course is that the
frontal area is reduced at the same time."
New guy checks in
Hello all, new member here. Been doing a lot of
reading, dreaming and perusing my preview plans set
and have decided its time to pull the trigger in
search of the RV Grin with an RV-8. Getting my shop
set up, working on tooling up and work bench(s).
Ready to order my empennage kit. As a new builder
any recommendations on getting going with my
empennage order? Looks like there are few options
for the empennage with the exception of electric
elevator trim which I will opt for. Would appreciate
any advice, recommendations to get things started
off on the right track.
Fort Collins, CO
Rudder pedal Bearing Block ...14
I’ve been working on the
installation of my rudder pedals and the top portion
of the bearing block appears to be too thick to fit
between support angle and the rudder bar. It looks
I’m going to have remove about .075” of material to
fit without binding. Has anyone else bumped into
this? To date everything has fit perfectly so I’m
wondering if I’m missing something. Both ends of the
rudder pedal blocks went into their respective holes
with no issues or binding.
Status Report ...JCarne 7A
Well another major milestone took place this
weekend. After coming back from Seattle and
Bellingham for almost a week I finally removed the
left wing from the jig. Let me just say, it is nice
to have some of my garage back for a bit!!!
My dad and I also riveted the right wing top skins.
This side only took us about 4 hours, noticeably
faster than the left!
Mothership SnF Special
Mothership via FB
April 10, 2018. Issue
It's the 100th day
of the year....and I have no idea why I'm writing this. Just
seemed like a nice round number for the useless trivia crowd (like
Between layers the other day.
Pic makes it look scarier than it was...dr
Eagle's Nest Projects - TI Mentors Help Mckinney Aviation Academy
Eagle's Nest Projects - McKinney
Aviation Academy (TX)
McKinney Aviation Academy recently received a
$25,000 grant from American Airlines. After careful
thought and consideration about how to best use the
funds, it was agreed that the purchase of Red Bird
flight simulators for the aviation
classroom-airplane build lab located at TKI airport
would best serve the needs of the program and the
students. The tutorials provided by Red Bird were
well written and the students quickly became
familiar with the basic functionality of the
machines. In a very short time however, it was
apparent that the students needed professionally
trained instructors if they were to realize the full
potential of the simulators.
Mothership SnF News
Snowbird Classic IAC contest PIREP
The 2018 contest season has gotten
off to a good start!
We started off in March with a successful judge's
school. I got recurrent and now it was time to start
judging. I was hoping to start by judging either
Primary or Intermediate. The problem was Primary was
combined with Sportsman for this contest as it often
is. So I wasn't permitted or able to judge the
category since I am a Sportsman competitor. The
Intermediate category was being flown just prior to
my category so I wasn't able to judge it. So for my
first judging experience as a qualified Regional
Judge I got to judge the Advanced category! I was
bit apprehensive about this since the competitors at
this level are very serious and I didn't want to
screw it up for anyone. Plus, the maneuvers happen
very very fast, making it easy to miss important
elements. You know what... the training worked! I
was able to successfully judge in a fair objective
manner consistent with the more experienced judges.
I was as pleased with this as I was with my flying.
The Zippy-Dripless Zip-Loc oil filter change!
This is the technique I’ve been
using to change oil filters for 25years. Aplogies to
anyone else who has come up with this idea and
posted in the past- easier to describe with
pictures, all you need is a 1-gallon Zip-Loc bag,
preferably the sturdier freezer version. The link
below should take you to a set of photos with
explanatory captions that you can scroll through-
just be sure it stays in “roll view”- Otis
Our Flying Buddy Sid Mayeux Explained in One Picture
...one of the more organized fellows I've ever
met. The condition inspection begins. dr
Volunteer for the Airventure 2018 One Week Wonder build team! ...mothership
you haven’t heard, the RV-12iS kit has been chosen
by EAA for the One Week Wonder project at Airventure
2018. Are you interested in being part of the team
that will build an RV-12iS in 6.5 days during
As can be imagined, it will require many hands to
complete the aircraft build in 6.5 days so a team of
volunteers is being sought. Anyone with an interest
in being part of the build team, fill out the online
application form, accessible from the front page of
Van's Aircraft's web site or via
We don't guarantee participating will make you
famous, but you never know (and you get an
exclusive/collectible t shirt)......
Teens involved with teen build groups are encouraged
to register. (Please mention you’re a teen builder
in the comments section)
Our Friend Tommy Meyer's New Project
...based at our field surrounded by RVs (but
pretty dang awesome).
April 9, 2018. Issue
Sunrise at E80, Belen NM ...Roy Thoma pic
14A flying feedback after 237 hours ...bmarvel
I rarely post but thought some of you in the early
RV-14 flying stages or nearing completion may be
interested in some real-world feedback. I first flew
our -14A on September 8, 2016 and now have 237 hours
on it. Prior to that I put our RV-8A through some
1700 hours so I know the pros and cons of each. Our
-14A was a standard full build kit (SN 140134) with
an IO-390 from Van's and the recommended Hartzell CS
prop. It is IFR with two Skyview displays, GTN-650
navigator and a back up Grand Rapids Mini-B EFIS. It
has an impulse coupled mag on one side and P-Mag on
the other. I followed the plans closely and only
made minor modifications to them.
In no particular order, here are some thoughts,
characteristics, performance data and features that
may be of interest to you:
1. Both the wife and I find the -14 to be more
difficult to get into and out of compared to the -8.
One hand on the side rail and the other in the
center of the cross bar behind the seats is required
to support your body weight, especially getting out.
It takes some stretching to do. Don’t let pax grab
the instrument panel or canopy, as they are inclined
to do. Holding onto the roll bar while facing
inboard and standing on the seat, then turning
forward while crouched down like a baseball catcher
leaning against the seat back is a technique that
works. You may end up developing your own method
that differs but that’s what I do.
Big Plane, No Runway Lights ...Capt Sandy
"What were you thinking?" my friend Maria said
when I told her this story. She'd asked why we
didn't get a photo of what we saw at the airport
"Because it was dark," I replied.
"No, you mean dusk."
"No, I mean it was dark," I insisted. "It was dark."
"What? You were walking on the taxi-way in the dark?
Sheesshh.." Maria slapped her forehead with her
Inflight spark plug wire failure (Lightspeed/automotive style)
Thought others might be interested in this recent
maintenance issue, didn't see anything like it in
Was on a short fuel run a few days back when I
noticed something painted yellow on my Dynon.
Cylinder #4 EGT was hot, 1500 degrees versus the
usual 1200. Everything else seemed normal. Was
almost home so didn't debug further, despite Mike
On the ground, a mag check showed rough running on
the right (Lightspeed ignition) and cylinder #4
going cold. Easy diagnosis, no spark, right?
On disassembly, spark plug tested good and wire
tested good. Upstream of that is the coil, but the
other cylinder that's fed from the same coil was
firing normally, so the coil seems good...gotta be
connectors I figured. After a bit of wiggling the
wire around at different angles I saw the resistance
spike and eventually cut out entirely.
RV Clinic held at Shannon Airport
This Saturday a condition inspection and safety
clinic was held at KEZF.
Background: New airport Manager- Phil McLanahan and
recent purchaser of a RV-6A suggested instead of a
one-off inspection of my plane, that we could gather
many RV folks to offer tips, and safety inspection
This of course was in addition to the routine
cylinder compression checks and other items common
to all planes.
Turn out: Despite temps in the low 40's, 8 aircraft
owners/builders/ and my son Evan who is just
learning about aircraft wrench swinging.
What happened: the most amazing inspection I'd ever
seen. This because each person noted something
unique. Either a potential safety issue like a wire
probe that was rubbing within the engine
compartment, to how to detect the need for exhaust
The most skilled in the hangar included (Phil A &
P/IA, and Lee Ragsdale also A& P and 9 time RV
builder, Bobby Bouchier AP and RV builder) Tom
"Smokey" Doran- RV-8A driver and Mechanical and
Electrical Engineer, Rich Aquino RV-6 driver, and a
couple just finishing their SonexJet.
Each took time to teach, share tools and provide
I'm confident my RV-4 is now safer, more efficient,
and perhaps a smidgeon faster.
This could not have happened without fostering a
vibrant flying community on the airfield.
I remain thankful and amazed about the RV community
Most left with good feelings and perhaps a tip or
It was a thing to behold.
Dave "Daddyman" Clinthorne
N262DF The Dream Flyer"
Milestone: Engine Hung ...Pete Miller (Plano, TX)
7A Rebirthing Status Report ...kentlik
have a slight twist still. After cutting the front
bow tubes to length, the front left and right rear
corners are airborne...about .200-250". These are
the times working with a recovered airplane make me
go deep into what is really bent. I have a decent
size granite inspection table from my other business
off passed so I checked the frame on it to see that
it is the frame, not the plane. Also, not sure yet
if I cut the front tubes too short, might have by
about 60-80 thousand (Turns out after re-reading the
manual again I should be good. The side rails are
exactly 2.45" across their length front to back).
April 6, 2018. Issue
Wishing you and yours a happy,
safe and RV-filled weekend.
Monument Valley ...Vlad the Travelled (9A)
Based on advice from senior VAFers I took a tour
of Monument Valley recently. It never gets old.
Eagle's Nest Projects - SWA rolls out the Red-Carpet for Montgomery HS
(TX) students ...Ernie
Wednesday - March 28, 2018
Southwest Airlines rolls out the Red-Carpet for
Montgomery High School (TX) ENP Students
Montgomery high school PLTW Aerospace Engineering
students are building a real airplane at their
school, a 2-place Van’s Aircraft RV-12, under a
program developed and sponsored by Eagle’s Nest
Projects. ABC Channel 13 News recently visited the
school’s airplane build project (video)
and in a surprise ending to their interview,
announced they contacted Southwest Airlines and that
SWA agreed to provide the ENP/Montgomery
build-students a Red-Carpet tour of their facilities
at Hobby airport together with intern opportunities.
Stu 'Falcon' McCurdy's Gathering...this Friday
I wanted to provide you with an update for Falcon's
local "open hangar" gathering
Friday April 6, 2018 from 1300 to 1500 at the
Georgetown, Texas airport.
We are hopeful the weather will hold up and that we
can accomplish all that we can on such short notice.
We will plan on starting the posting of the colors
at 13:45 followed by an eulogy and stories about
Falcon. We will perform a missing man in his honor.
Any one that has served or flown with him don't
forget to bring your nickel. Please think of a short
story or quote you would like to share with those in
attendance. Remember that this is as much for his
family as it is for him. I believe it is important
for his grandkids to get to hear these stories they
otherwise would not hear. Please think of a brief
story if you want to share one. Try to keep them PG
as most of us coming from fighter squadrons tend to
have some flowery language at times, along with some
of our sayings. That said Falcon loved the
camaraderie and shenanigans as much as he loved
formation flying. He would want it that way.
Please let me know if you need anything further. I
hope to see you at the "Falcon Gathering".
Please forward this to anyone you may know that
would like to know about this gathering as I am sure
I have missed someone, unintentionally.
Bobby "Luke" Lucroy
Bahamas Update ...Tommy Lewis 7A/10
"It still amazes me 11 years after Mel inspected
and finalized the license of our RV7a, that it would
be a magic carpet to take us on all these wonderful
My home field has a new windsock at the north end
courtesy the POA
(to go along with the new runway). And the
grass is dark green all around it.
Enjoy the view
on short final if you visit <g>.
Cheapest Fuel List.
Old and New...
pic courtesy Carey Sharp
April 5, 2018. Issue
VFR Wx arrived back
in N. TX Wednesday and that brought out the RV
locals. Below two coming up initial 0845 with
a third warming up on the ramp.
Later I went up for .3 and got the
image below of wind-blown waves on Lake Lewisville. In the
full size you can see where a gust bends the waves in an
Every RV flight you seem get something interesting you didn't plan
RV-9A Status Report....Andy C. Kalamazoo, Mi
Engine is done!!
Today's Bahamas Report ...Tommy rubbing it in (7A/10)
Seat Porn ...Luke
"Here is another beautiful RV-7A from Australia
that was built by Peter Harkness. This is a good
example of very eye catching paint scheme with a
tastefully subtle interior. Nice job Peter, and
thanks for sharing pictures!"
check out the armrest
RV-8 Heat Diverter- Solution to a Nonexistent Problem?...goatflieg
When I installed Van's cabin heat selector box on
my RV-8 firewall I saw two potential problems. The
first was routing the push-pull cable; with ground
adjustable rudder pedals set full-forward I saw the
potential for getting the top of a pedal caught
behind the cable during brake actuation with rudder
deflection; definitely NOT a good scenario. I
decided to modify the flapper lever and route the
cable directly from the left gear tower to the
lever. This would reverse the operation to
push-to-open/pull-to-close, but that's no big deal
to me. The other issue was that it looked like the
hot air would be blowing directly into the left
corner in front of the gear tower; less than ideal,
with wiring, cables, fuel pump, fuel lines and brake
lines there. I thought a heat diverter would help
reduce those issues and redirect the hot air
straight aft. So I made this up out of scrap
aluminum. It was eyeball-engineered and took some
fiddling, but I believe it will help. Having to
route the cable through the diverter was a pain, but
it works without any interference. Just wondering if
any other RV-8 builders had similar thoughts. Did I
solve a nonexistent problem?
Georgetown, TX Tango Flight Youth Build
"We are having our banquet this weekend down in
Georgetown. Would you mind posting this on VAF for a
day or two to try and get interest from some of the
local folks? I’m extremely excited that we
have Mike Coates, retired shuttle astronaut,
and director of NASA as our guest speaker!
Also, Mark King, with GLO Custom is making us a
really nice offer. He has donated a number of
certificates good for $1000 off of a paint job"
April 4, 2018. Issue
VAF has been my full time job as of 4/4/07. Thanks again for
Geoff Combs' Insane Panel Update
So after flying my RV-10 N829GW for 8 years 2 months, and 1 minor
panel upgrade I decided to do a major Panel/systems update.
RV-4 First Flight ...Skip
Runway finally dried out, winds were calm so no excuse not to fly
it this morning, so I did!
Temps all good (on the cool side) just a slight heavy right wing
easily trimmed out. Flew like I hoped it would. Hardest part was
getting it slowed down enough to land...
This is going to be fun
RV-4 #1904 (its a airplane now)
Tommy Lewis RV Spring Trip to Bahamas ...pics
Taking advantage of a TDY ...majuro15
I’ve been TDY (temporary duty) at Sheppard AFB, located in lovely
Wichita Falls, Texas, for about two months. While this place chalks
up to the armpit of the Midwest, I was determined to get out and
enjoy myself during the three months that I’m here. Luckily, another
class mate, Justin, in my Aircraft Maintenance Officer training is a
private pilot and we quickly found a few great places to airport bum
meeting some great folks and getting a few flights under our belts.
John Hooker, located at Wichita Valley Airport (F14), built a very
nice RV-10 several years ago and was happy to show me around and
give me some tips. Ironically, a unique feature spurred my memory
and after digging through Oshkosh photos from four years ago, I
realized I had seen his airplane in person. When we couldn’t find
any good reason not to fly, he offered to take me for a quick hop
along the Red River and gave me plenty of stick time. I’ve been
attending the weekly Sunday evening social at F14 whenever my
Getting Close: Paul Lips
Been lurking a long time on this site. I'm getting closer to
flying. Here is first Picture RV-4 N698PK. O-320 Powered.
Bragging on the Kid
...Audrey was awarded a fellowship from the NSF. She got
the word around midnight last night.
Many of you had a part in
this kid's education. Thank you for that - she's doing us all
April 3, 2018. Issue
Stu McCurdy: Rest in Peace
It is with heavy hearts that Falcon Flight
announces the passing of our leader and founder
Stuart (Stu) "Falcon" McCurdy (Col USAF Ret). After
battling for almost a year, Stu succumbed to
esophageal cancer this past Saturday (3/31/18) at
his home in Round Rock TX, surrounded by his entire
It's no exaggeration to say that formation flying
in the GA world, especially the EAB side, would not
be the thriving, tight-knit, community that it is
today without the efforts put forth by Falcon. His
creation of FFI back in the late 90's set the gold
standard to which we are all held. It allows dozens
of flight teams, consisting of hundreds of pilots,
to fly together in safety and grace. It seamlessly
brought together pilots from all over the country to
set world records, whether over EAA AirVenture, NFL
games or the occasional NASCAR race.
An informal “open hangar” gathering is planned
for Friday 4/6/18 from 13:00 to 15:00 at Stu's home
base of KGTU. Feel free to drop by and pay respects,
if so inclined.
Falcon *will* be missed, but his legacy continues
each time we “strap on” our aircraft.
Blue skies, good friend.
Falcon Flight Formation Team
[ed. Ron Walker was kind
enough to send me this. dr]
Harding Icefield Kenai Peninsula Alaska ...mbauer trip writeup
The Harding Icefield is an expansive icefield
located in the Kenai Mountains of the Kenai
Peninsula in Alaska. It is also partially located in
Kenai Fjords National Park. It is named for United
States President Warren G. Harding.
On March the 24th 2018 took a little local flight.
Wasn't planning on anything special, just decided to
cruise around. One thing I wanted to do was time a
climb from PAEN (Kenai Airport) to 10,000 feet MSL.
Fishing Guide RV Offer (NE. OK) ...friend of mine Clayton (RV-8)
Adam Mason is a friend of mine here in North East
Oklahoma. He was born and raised in Adair and has
been fishing Hudson Lake since he was a kid. He has
started up a fishing guide service, and I was hoping
to get the word out to the RV community since this
would be a great use of an RV. Adam is a Veteran,
having served in the Army between 2004 and 2012 -
with a tour in Iraq (2006/2007) as a .50 Cal.
Infantry Gunner. Not exactly sure what he was up to,
but I'm damn glad he was doing it.
Here is what Melissa and I would like to do to help
out. We would like to offer accommodations for two
different 2 person parties who wish to book fishing
trips with Adam. They can come into our grass strip
(OK18) on the lake the night before and either stay
in the one bedroom apartment we have at the hangar,
or if they prefer, they are welcome to pitch a tent
and camp. OK18 is a private strip with a "Land at
your own Risk" policy, but if they have some time
operating off of turf, coming in and out of OK18
should be no problem.
Pics and Contact Info
I would encourage interested parties to first
contact Adam about time and schedule. I know he has
been having some great results on Crappie and that
the Sand bass are really turning it on right now.
Melissa and I spent all day Saturday putting them in
the boat. Early in the season the Spoonbills are
really stacking up and the Catfish will be biting
here soon. Adam offers a full services guided trip,
all equipment, bait, lures, boat, and fish cleaned
for you to take back home. The fishermen/women will
be responsible for the appropriate fishing license
and their meals. His 1/2 day trips are $300 for
either 1 or 2 guests in the boat. I can guarantee
you that anyone who goes with him will have a good
time and Adam will do all he can to put fish in the
boat (remember - he can operate a .50 caliber rapid
Once the party has booked with Adam, I will be happy
to brief them on OK18, alternates, fuel,
transportation, and how to handle meals.
OK18 (grass) from an RV-8
Adam is a great guy, who I would very much like
to see succeed with his guide service - hope some of
our pilot friends will help make it happen.
All the Best,
April 2, 2018. Issue
Horrible news over
the weekend as word arrived of a 6A crash in Santa Paula, CA with
two fatalities (names haven’t been released as of this writing).
Prayers offered up to all those affected. More when I know it,
and if I receive funeral information this week I’ll pass it on.
New RV-10 Guy Says Hey ...David Selden
Figured I should say hello since I will probably
be on here asking questions at some point. Took
delivery of my RV-10 empennage kit yesterday
afternoon. Got everything inventoried except the
skins. No damage to anything, so not a bad way to
Video: Aerobatic Practice ...Gash
Here's a video of my aerobatic practice today.
This is the Intermediate Free sequence that I'll fly
in IAC contests this year. It's not flown in an RV,
but I guess it's RV-related since I used my RV-8 to
get started with aerobatic contests last year.
Thanks to Ron Schreck's presentation at Oshkosh in
2016, I learned how to get involved in IAC. Thanks
Status Report ...jcarne
Well with the tanks and leading edges attached it
was time for some top skins. I got them all prepped
and even got the left wing riveted. My dad came over
to help, we found that the back riveting method did
not work for us. No matter how I held the rivet set
the rivets wanted to tilt ever so slightly toward
the rib web. We switched to bucking with the good ol'
tungsten and it worked awesome! Really good results
in my opinion. Let me know what you think.
Flywheel to hub alignment ...SgtZim
Hi, basic question here. Does the 0 on the
flywheel match to the (smeared) 0 on the hub?
Mobile Dynon Data ...akarmy
Ok, I can't be the only one that has had this
happen to. Too many times I arrive at the airport
ready to go flying, and upon startup I get the
dreaded, your chart data is out of date on my
Skyview system. Now what I really want is a wifi
cellular mobile download accessory to install into
my plane so it's always current. Since I can't have
that... I came up with this.
7A Rebirthing Update ...kentlik
So, I finally got the aft deck sorted. The most
trouble I have had to date with rivets in NEW holes
no combination old and new.
Panel Porn ...Flywad4 RV-14
...ad in the Previous
Day's News section. Jim will chime in with
a classified listing shortly.
March 30, 2018. Issue
Wishing you and
yours a happy, safe and RV-filled Easter weekend.
Ed D'Arcy photo (Turbo)
Crack in Windshield ...dangit
I went to the hangar yesterday to take the RV-6A
out after a cold winter's rest. After an extensive
preflight, I pulled it out of the hangar and climbed
in and started it up. As I was getting everything
set up and slowly continuing through the checklist,
I glanced up and notice a small crack in the
windshield that I hadn't noticed before. I almost
had a breakdown right then and there. The crack is
about two (2) inches and it runs from the top
left-center down and it is not noticeable while
seated unless you intentionally search for it.
Apple Watch as a Backup Flight Tracker
(using a Series 3 with GPS)
Select 'Workout' and choose 'Cycle' (the GPS doesn't
come on when you select 'Treadmill'. Go fly.
When you get back on the ground you have a nice map
of where you flew....and a measurement of your heart
rate throughout the flight. You can see the
elevated portions where I pushed the plane out and
I flew a quick .2 over to the school parking lot to
see where Tate's truck was parked (half day classes
let out at noon). The 4-year old battery had
given up the ghost and I had to meet him there with
tools, then run up to O'Reily's for a replacement.
PS: The app thinks you're a GREAT cyclist.
It gives you a 'Way to Go!' message every five
miles. Happens pretty quick when your bicycle
is averaging around 150mph. ;^)
Air Force Academy bound--AviationNation builder
We are very proud of Eli Edwards, one of the
RV-12 builders from Columbus, Indiana. Eli has been
accepted to the Air Force Academy. This isn't his
first honor; he has been two-time NRA Junior
National Champion in high power rifle (shoots one of
those evil AR-15s.) That says a bunch about his work
ethic and attention to detail. This is my second
student to attend a military academy. About five
years ago we had one who went on to West Point.
These build programs attract the best and brightest,
and we try to encourage them to excel in all that
April Wallpaper Calendar
David Paule Status Report ...3B
The left-hand belly skin under the seat is now
glued on. Here it is with the glue curing, the
exoskeleton in place, and the tape freshly off.
Removing the tape is one of the first things to do
after the clecos are in (the first ones are wiping
off the cleco tips and filleting any joints).
March 29, 2018. Issue
It got close to a
thousand feet AGL, but the OVC clouds never flinched and we stayed
IFR all day at my home field Wednesday. Treadmill, Whataburger
and Mt. Email.
Been on the surface too many days for my tastes - more respect gained for
those who live in rainy climates. Texas seems to have spoiled
me in regards to sunny flying weather. Two days of rain is
about all I can seem to stand. ;^)
RV-6 and reflected hangar door in OVC conditions.
Richard VanGrunsven Receives AOPA General Aviation Safety Award
25 years of bits and pieces ...Tom Martin
Although I would not call myself a hoarder when
it comes to little bits of aluminum I am definitely
In 1993, when I started, you kept all the scraps. If
you wanted to build something extra, or had a
repair, little pieces came in handy. When building
if you were going to modify a part you needed little
pieces. The really expensive piece of small aluminum
is the one you do not have! I kept everything,
different sizes, different thicknesses etc.
As kits have evolved there is less and less need for
extra metal. The kits are pretty complete and there
are not as many modifications to make. The baffle
kit alone has saved hours and hours of work
scrounging for just that right bit of metal.
After completing the RV14 I noticed that I did not
go to the scrap yard (under my bench) at all. It was
time to clean house.
It took a couple of hours to sort through 5 boxes
of odds and ends. I narrowed it down to two boxes of
high end scraps!
The rest went to the scrap metal yard
I got a total of $31.55 for my bits and pieces, a
memory every one. The interesting thing was that I
had a few pop cans as well. They had to be separated
as they were worth $0.10 more per pound then
I had some trouble with the screws
that hold my spinner dome digging through the dome.
The spinner is on it's way back to the manufacturer
where they'll be building me a new dome, but now I'm
spinnerless! The manufacturer told me I could fly
without the spinner and obviously, I see all kinds
of planes without spinners. The propeller is a
My question is specifically, is there anything to be
concerned about with the RV-8?
Will it effect the cooling? Will too much air enter
without the spinner on?
Don't want to do anything stupid. Opinions clearly
being sought! Thanks!
RV-7 Status ...CubedRoot
After completing the horizontal stabilizer in a
previous work session, I decided to continue on and
finish the vertical stabilizer. *The Tech Counselor
came out this morning and approved all my work so
far, and that means its safe to close these guys up
and mark them as done! *I started out by clecoing
the rear spar back on to the vertical stabilizer
skin, we had removed it this morning so the
inspector could take a good look at the riveting
RV-8 Fastback Panel Pic
...Chris Engler for Steve
I don't have dimensions handy but this pic gives
you a general sense of the canopy frame "overlap" on
the panel. When closed, the bottom of the frame just
covers the 8/32 pan head screws around the top
perimeter of the panel....the dimension widens from
the top to the sides (guessing 3/4 inch at the top
to 1 1/2 inches at the sides.
For reference, the two screens are 10.4 inch HXrs
and the radio is a GTN650. Note that the panel
itself is a single piece of 1/8 inch thick aluminum
rather than the standard 3-section panel from Vans.
Status Report: RV-14A Engine ON ...MED
March 28, 2018. Issue
A bit of a milestone
today....it's been exactly one year since I've had a soda.
Growing up in Waco, TX where Dr. Pepper was created (and
given to the mascot at Baylor) and having a father who spent his
entire working life at a glass plant making bottles to contain it
makes for a sort of system shock when you go cold turkey. And
Rained all day Tuesday here. No RV fun to be had. Maybe I'll
go get a soda... ;^)
Just waiting for the permit to test on my 7 ...Ian Coates
I thought that I should show the group my completed
7, I am awaiting the paperwork for the permit to
test. Hopefully not long. I am greatful to all on
the forum for invaluable information over the four
and a half years of tears and joy.
Panel Porn ...Dany King's project
Danny is helping hangarmate Ned put in newer
avionics and harnesses in his RV-8. I got some
large pics of the work in progress. Click on
any pic for a larger version (and choose 'iPhone 6+'
after clicking on the little symbol that looks like
three cards stacked on top of each other for full
Mars Research Station ...from the RV-9A (Vlad)
There is a fascinating place in a Utah desert.
It's Mars Desert Research Lab where teams of
scientists from different countries simulate living
and working in martian like conditions.
From Sonex to RV-8
Years ago when I first decided building an airplane
was something I wanted to do, I was quickly drawn to
the RV-8. As I started researching what it would
take to build one, I started realizing that cost to
build and the complexity was probably more than I
could chew. I found myself migrating over to the
Sonex, and after a Sonex builder took me for a quick
hop around the patch, I was sold. It had great
performance for the price and I was able to see past
the somewhat odd look and overall lack of fit and
Fast forward a few years and I am part way through a
Sonex tail kit but have started to have a lot of
apprehension about finishing. This is mostly due to
my lack (and others in the Sonex community) of
confidence in the AeroVee VW conversion. With the
Sonex B models, the factory will now support several
other more proven engine installations (Rotax, UL
power, etc.) but that takes an airplane I was
looking to spend 30-35k to get airborne to more like
50-60k. While I still feel the Sonex is a great
little airframe, I can't see paying that kind of
price for it.
So, I've come full circle back to the RV-8, which
has always been the plane I wanted to build in the
first place. I am going to order a set of preview
plans and the practice projects and figure out what
extra tools I'll need now that I can't just pull a
bunch of pop rivets. Any other building
advice/suggestions for a soon to be former Sonex
builder would be appreciated.
Looking forward to the journey!
Dreaming of an RV-8a build
From AeroLEDs.com (advertiser)
March 27, 2018. Issue
How'd you do that- F-01479 page 10-18 ...-14
After spending two hours last night trying to get
this assembly into place, I thought I'd better get
some help before bending something. I've checked
multiple builder's web sites and seems nobody is
having much of an issue with it. Trying to figure
out what I'm doing wrong. F-01479 goes between the
F-01478 (skin) and the F-01411 bulkhead. I'm not
having much trouble there, it's getting the skin to
fit aft of this point. By the way, the plans are
vague, I'm assuming that the F-01479 skin goes
BETWEEN the stringers and the fuse skin.
How'd you do it?
Practice holds in a 30kt wind are fun!
The first outbound leg we *only* flew for 50
seconds. Had to reduce that to 30 seconds!
fmi: About APRS Tracking
I put three access panels in the front skin of my
9 tip up. It’s time consuming to do it. I asked a
friend that put them in his 7 if he would do it
again and he said yes. So I went for it. They made
it very easy for riveting the skin. I’m assuming you
have not installed the skin. Important. When laying
out the holes, the two that are on the sides run
parallel to the longeron. They are trapezoids not
Layout the locations on the skin and carefully
cut them out, file and clean the edges. Layout and
drill #40 holes around the perimeter using proper
edge distance. I used a rivet fan to space the
holes. Cleco on the skin to the airframe to fit the
backer plate. Rough cut the plate oversize as it
will change as it curves. Match drill the backer
plate and cleco all around. Trace with a sharpie
around the hole onto the backer plate. Remove the
backer plate and create an outside line 5/8” from
traced line, then do the same 5/8” inside the traced
line. Cut both inside and outside line, clean and
polish edges. You now have your backer plate.
Next make the cover plates. These must be made
with the skin cleco’d to the fuse. Rough cut larger
than needed. Match drill and cleco. You will need a
helper to climb in and push the plate to conform
while you match drill. Trace and cut 1/8” outside
the line. The plate now needs to be finely tuned to
fit the hole. Cut and file to fit. Cleco on the
backer plate for support while fitting. When your
happy with the fit, if not make another one, layout
#40 holes, match drill cover plate into backer
The rest is straight forward. Dimples for rivets and
#6 screws in cover plate. Install nut plates in
backer plate. Last is to rivet the backer plate if
your satisfied with the fit and finish. Otherwise do
it all again. It’s only a small amount of 032 sheet
March 26, 2018. Issue
OVC, BR and gusting to 30+
around N. Texas over the weekend kept the RV flying limited to those
braver than me. My Baylor Girls were knocked out of the
tournament Friday, but the Formula 1 2018 season was nice enough to
start up the next day (how nice). Spent Saturday cleaning stuff at
the hangar and Sunday working on sprinklers and watching Elite Eight
games with a laptop (working on VAF stuff).
Hope the flying Wx is better where you are, and that you had a nice
RV-10 First Flight :-) ...BlackhawkSP
I completed the maiden flight
yesterday in my RV-10 !! I wanted to get it done
before the spring snow storm we have going on today
!! These aircraft are the ultimate in delayed
gratification. She fly’s great. All the engine CHT's
and EGT's were very reasonable. I closed the cowl
flaps right after take off. The engine oil temp
leveled off at 206 degrees, and i was running WOT at
5500 Ft. I saw at one point 178 knots TAS straight
and level. Now on to the flight test program and
teaching myself how to work all the whiz-bang
goodies and features in the Garmin avionics and
autopilot. I've flown a Super 8 for years, but I am
rapidly getting to love this 10 !
Here are a bunch of pictures from the event:
Change of pace (and project)
While browsing the VAF classifieds in January
(for one last time before pulling the trigger on a
factory QB 7 Fuse), an RV-6 project popped up at a
near-quick build stage. A few phone conversations
and a week later, a good friend of mine and I made a
morning of flying out to Orcas Island to check it
out. After looking it over, I decided it was a
project I wanted to take on and ideally, be the one
Please critique my electrical design
I've been working on the electrical architecture
for my RV-8 and I'm getting close to a solution, but
before I start buying and installing components, I'd
like to get some feedback on my deign.
I'm planning an IFR-capable RV-8 with a Titan IO-370
and G3X system with G-5, GTN-650, GTR20, et al. I'm
planning to use the Earth-X ETX680 battery as the
main, and a TCW 3 Ah backup battery. The main
alternator will be a belt-driven B&C BC-460H (60
Amps) with a gear-driven SD-8 backup (<8 Amps).
Status ...jcarney 7A
Things are really starting to chug along now!
After riveting the ribs to the spar it was time to
finalize riveting the leading edge by finishing the
flange rivets. Tomorrow I will prime the left top
skins and those will be ready to go on. Things are
really moving now.
You can see in this pic I used the Van's approved
LP4-3s and 4s to rivet the ribs except for the
outboard one. I tried to put all the factory heads
on the rib side but there were two ribs I had to put
the factory head on the spar. Reaching inside to
rivet what you can is an absolute bear if you have
Greetings from a newbie and another 9A underway
Howdy, I took delivery of my tail
section on Wednesday. Inventory revealed two damaged
rudder skins, new skins coming. Also my plans had
RV8 HS and rudder plans (no 9 plans). So I started
the VS first. I’m at 9 hrs on build time and will
Been a long time lurker and have come out. Great
info here, hopefully I won’t burden with too many
questions. Posting pics on pbell1733.wordpress.com
PBell - 92293
9A Empennage building,
Ivanpha Array from Vlad's -9A
Last fuse skin going on ...kentlik
I have finally gotten back to work
on the plane...
March 23, 2018. Issue
Wishing you and
yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend.
Very Special RV-6 For Sale ...our friend Joe Blank's RV-6
Being Offered for sale By Tricia Blank.
Van's Aircraft RV-6
Built from a Quick Build (QB) Kit
Location: Molalla Oregon
Asking Price: $95,000
"This airplane was built, maintained, and flown by Joe Blank.
Up until losing a courageous battle with cancer in Nov. 2016, Joe
was a Factory Demo Pilot / Technical Support guy at Van's Aircraft.
The airplane is well know by many within the RV community because of
Joe's employment at Van's, his participation as an FFI Flight Lead
team member in the West Coast Ravens, and his participation in many
other formation events including numerous world record formation
I have been the caretaker, pilot, and maintainer of this airplane
since Joe's passing, and will be the contact person for inquiries
for additional info., etc.
Please contact me via PM or e-mail and I will get back
to you ASAP. [ed. If you don't have a
VAF forum account you can
email me and I'll get your contact
info to Scott. v/r,dr].
The attached list of configuration and equipment has been made to
the best of my ability; having not personally built or owned the
airplane. It is the full responsibility of any interested party to
confirm any specific details of interest.
more info on this plane
[ed. I miss my friend very
much, and I hope somebody
takes very good care of his plane. ]
Some Teaser Shots
Monk and Plaster asked if I would take some pics
of a -6 coming up for sale soon.
Absolutely....my usual rate (one lunch up to and
including $10). And I get to use the pics on
the site if I don't screw 'em up.
a.m. we went up for a quick .2 and got some.
That's Plaster above holding station from the right
seat - I know he's cussing me at the time as I was
pretty close to being directly between his pupil and
the center of the sun. There for about five
seconds the paint on the plane seemed to fluoresce.
here is untouched in Photoshop. I
shot a burst of about 20 pictures in that five
seconds and knew we could go home right then.
Monk and I landed I stood on the taxiway and got
some touch and go passes. What a beautiful RV.
Of note is the tiny landing light just above the
More info when I have it...
New RV-6 owner in Northern Illinois ...Jonathan Gruber
Just wanted to test out my ability to post and
also introduce myself. Picked up a "finished" (are
we ever REALLY finished) rv-6. Very excited to
become a part of thus group and I'll see everyone in
the sky. Aircraft is based out of KDPA.
Why you do a 360* on the ramp before taking off...
...to see if you're leaking oil during mag check,
etc. Seen on the run-up ramp at 52F 3/22/18.
RV-14 Milestone ...control
Not torqued yet, I did not really plan to mount it
today but when all fittings were in place I just
could not help myself from trying. Even without
help, I was able to get all the bolts in, in around
Prototyping Technician Needed
Well Rested Pilots Fly Better (maybe)
I downloaded a free app called
Sleep Cycle for my iPhone the other day.
Used it Wednesday night for the first time (graph
"An intelligent alarm clock that analyzes
your sleep and wakes you in the lightest sleep
phase – the natural way to wake up feeling
rested and relaxed. No need to place your device
in bed - Sleep Cycles uses sound analysis sleep
Note the snoring blips around 0400. It
recorded (7) snoring events spread out over (19)
minutes, and no I won't pay $30/yr to hear them -
the free, non-premium version serves my needs.
I asked it to wake me sometime between 0615 - 0630.
It chose 0626 based on the sounds I was making.
It ties into the
app already on my phone. Screen grab of
the steps page below (guess what day back spasms
paid a visit?).
My Vans RV Conundrum ...new guy Dave chimes in
I have been thinking seriously about trading my
Mooney for a Vans RV-9/A. It better fits my mission
which is mostly me flying around by myself in good
weather with no particular place I need to go. I
think it would save me a bit of money in fuel burn,
replacement parts and upgrades and it would be newer
with not so much history, mechanics, repairs,
annuals and the like on it.
My ideal Vans would be the 9/A with an IO-320, CS
prop and either a tip up, or slider, I haven't
decided. It would also have to have a nice, standard
layout panel with at least two axis auto pilot, dual
coms, WAAS GPS, engine monitoring and a good audio
panel. ADS-B in and out and a 406 ELT would be great
too. Unfortunately there are four serious things
preventing me from pursuing this plan. In order of
What do you guys think?
Safety. I like the 9 because it has the lowest
stall speed and that means the slowest touch
down in an off field landing scenario, but it
seems that if you land a Vans on anything that
isn't hard and prepared, you end up upside down,
hanging from your harness and most times trapped
by a stuck canopy. Ditching a Vans in water
sounds like suicide, or at least very, very slim
chances of a good outcome. I feel much more
confident in the Mooney's ability to land off
field and in water. I also feel very confident
of the Mooney's strength in the airframe. I'm
not so sure about the Vans.
The wife. I mentioned in passing that I was
thinking of trading the Mooney and she was
ho-hum about that... until I told her I was
thinking of an experimental! She was pretty
strongly against that idea! It will take a lot
of convincing that it is just as safe and I
first have to convince myself.
The wife. The cabin in the Mooney is tight, but
I think the Vans cabin is even tighter. It feels
very narrow to me. As we get older, neither of
us is getting any skinnier. There is also poor
baggage area access, or capacity. While it has
only occurred three or four times in the last
seven years, it would be nice to keep the
ability to take the wife along for a weekend.
I'm not so sure how well the Vans can handle
Money. I don't think I can get anywhere near
enough money for my Mooney to get a nice clean,
well built RV-9 configured the way I want it and
then do all the things that will need to be done
to make it mine. I will have to sell my Mooney
and then likely pony up even more money. While I
have the money and could do this, right now is
not a financially great time for me to do it.
March 22, 2018. Issue
Airshow display ...lucaperazzolli RV-8
In September 2017 we did our first public
appearance as Aerobatic Formation Team, here's the
final (homebuilt) video editing.
Microsoft Research proposes using existing commercial aircraft to
provide worldwide WIFI coverage ...might be using RV-10 as test
"Scientists from Microsoft Research have
proposed using existing commercial aircraft flights
and air routes to provide worldwide internet
coverage at much lower cost than proposed solutions
such as Google’s Project Loon (which uses balloons)
and Facebook’s Aquila efforts (which uses
...Microsoft tested the system in real life
and reports good performance. They note that
connectivity would be intermittent and would be more
suitable for latency-tolerant communication such as
instant messages and email, but that connectivity
can be improved by recruiting more flights (there
are more than 10,000 in the air at one time) and by
potentially rerouting flights slightly for better
SB 18-03-06 (more
"The new spring was conceived at Van's, and then
designed under corroboration with the engineering
dept of a local spring manufacturer so this should
be the end to throttle spring breakage.
fleet begins using the new spring, be sure to notify
Van's using one of the standard procedures detailed
in the maintenance manual, if you have any type of
service difficulty with them."
More Pics of Larry Anderson's Newly Painted RV-10
Panel Upgrade and Hangar Cleanout
Upgrading the panel on my RV-7 and that means I have
several items to sell. All are used of course and
all are in good working order. Send me a PM if you
wish and we can hopefully come to terms on whichever
item(s) you would like. Here's the list:..
1:..Dynon D-100 EFIS module with Wiring Harness,
Magnetometer and uncut cable for Magnetometer.
2:..Dynon D-120 EMS module. Asking $1200
3:..Dynon AP74 autopilot control module with
mounting tray and harness, asking $325
4:..Garmin SL-40 Transciever with mounting tray,
5:..Garmin GTX 327 Transponder with mounting tray,
and Ameri-King Encoder with cable, asking $650
6:..Garmin 496 GPS with remote antennae, aircraft
power cord, manual, and various mounts, asking $550
7:..ICOM IC A200 transceiver, with mounting tray,
8:..Van's C/S fiberglass spinner kit, never used,
with unused mounting and front plates. asking $175
9:..2 Van's 4 point seat belts used in my RV-7, good
shape, no tears or fraying..$175 for both sets
10:.Falcon electric Turn Co-ordinator. New in box
with electrical connector, still in original, sealed
plastic wrap, asking $375
If you are at all interested in any of this, drop me
a PM with your contact info and we can see if we can
make a deal.
Head hitting canopy fix
The sometime sharp-edged turbulence around the
local foothills has caused my head to hit the
(RV-14A) canopy fairly hard several times, even with
the 5-point harness snugged up tight. The problem
seems to be the location of the lap belt anchors
well behind the seat. While doing a good job of
restraining in the forward direction, vertical
motion can easily be 4-5 inches. The solution seemed
to be an extra lap belt anchored further forward.
I got some seat belt anchors from Van's and located
them about 9 inches forward of the stock ones (see
first pic). The mounting would have been simple
during the build, but out on the tie-down, not so
much. The floor beam material is quite thin, so
added an .060 angle and stiffener on the side
opposite the anchors using plenty of pro-seal and
two AN-3 bolts (see pics 2 & 3). Pic 4 shows the
installation with the ratcheting lap belt (wrong
color, but hey...). This has been very effective,
you can ratchet the belt down till your bones bend
and you definitely become one with the airplane. My
head hasn't hit the canopy since and I also really
like the feeling of being glued in place even with
the simple acro I do.
Chris Johnson's Beautiful RV-9A ...'YellowJacket RV9'
in the forums
March 21, 2018. Issue
Short Field Practice ...vid.
...and (11) more minutes to get the logbook entry
Tuesday a.m. was one of those cold,
windy mornings in N. Texas that allows for a very
short landing roll on 35 at my home field.
Since I have manual flaps I like to occasionally
(when the conditions are right) dump the flaps right
as the wheels touch to shorten the roll. The
landing roll measured on GoogleMaps later was 698'.
It'll do shorter with less gas and smoother air.
My 'fun rolls' are a cross between barrel and
axial. Maybe 1/3rd barrel - just enough to
keep all the junk on the floor. The G-meter
showed 2.5 in the loop.
The wind was gusting 21kts
about 20* left of the centerline. The burbles
off the hangars make the 35 landing 'dynamic', and
the slightly-rising runway there at the end calls
for a non-standard flare. You can see the
bumps down low. Game face on and always
something to screw up (which I usually do).
hooked up the Garmin VIRB that's on loan and played
with the edit software a bit. Maybe an excuse
to goof off at work for 2min 40sec if you have the
bandwidth and monitor acreage.
Hard to believe how
much fun you can have in 12 minutes with an RV.
RV-12 (Powered with Rotax 912ULS) ALSO SEE
Revisions and Changes. Replace the
throttle return springs
Rest in Peace: Mr. Robbie Attaway
Sadly Robbie Attaway passed away in early Feb. While
not active in the RV community the last few years he
was in the past very active in the PHX area. He
designed and built several nice modifications to
RV’s. I own his second RV built and it’s a great
aircraft. He was always willing to help anyone with
9A Status Report ...Av8torTom
The day finally arrived for me to get down to Superior Air Parts and
build my O-320. Pretty impressive facility. I'm also VERY impressed with the
improvements Superior as made to their engine cases and cylinders.
Started around 9am this morning and by 5pm we had all 4 cylinders in place.
Here are a couple of pictures:
Rv-10 TDI 1st Condition Complete
Well, it took about 2.5 months, but its back in
the air- sort of.
The condition inspection went very well. RV guru Vic
Syracuse gave the airframe a thorough inspection. He
left the engine to me.
Punch list items--
1. Aileron SB inspection- completed- no cracks.
2. One brake master cylinder fitting weeping-
resealed all 8.
3. Two small cracks in the inlet ramp baffles- stop
1. Upgraded rudder stop installed-recommended by
2. Reduced my aux battery system by half- saved
about 8 lbs.
3. Installed an access door in aft bulkhead- Now
just 10 screws instead of 35 to check the battery
and aft equipment bay.
RV-4 sr.# 1904 got her airworthiness certificate
today, 30 yrs. and 26 days after the order was
placed for the tail kit! Talk about a slow build....
Thanks to all who helped me so much to complete this
project, especially Bill E. and Jim W. Most of all
to Mr. Don Harris who was the original builder
before he passed away.
Now for some decent weather!!
March 20, 2018. Issue
No flying in N.
Texas Monday due to
a few grand above the area. Hope less windy where you were.
Fun with ramp chalk!
Kyle Lewis photo (RV-12)
Crystal River / Cedar Key ...Don Schwartz 9A
Melissa and I flew our RV 9A down
to Florida from Wisconsin. We landed at
Crystal River and rented a car. We also flew to
Other airports for fun seeing the area. Including
Cedar Key. We stayed in Cedar Key for a week,
wonderful place to relax. Was a wonderful
trip. Seems that the Cedar Key Airport has several
accidents. If going please be Careful. Didn’t seem
to be a problem but there was a accident.
While we were there.
Difficult situation - need help ...jonweisw
A dear friend of mine needs to sell his RV
relatively quickly due to a tragic loss of his
medical related to a very significant,
incapacitating, health issue.
He completed his 7A in 2005 and it has around 600h
on it. IO360-M1B with a Hartzell. Beautifully built
(seriously - he is a former Navy test pilot and the
attention to detail was nuclear-grade) and
impeccably maintained. Always hangared and NDH.
Unsure as to the extent of his recovery and whether
or not he would be airworthy again, he and his wife
have held onto the airplane but have now decided to
sell it. It is out of annual and based at Punta
Gorda, FL (KPGD).
I have advised her that getting the airplane an
annual and therefore airworthy should be a top
priority (it is not safe or feasible for him to do
the condition inspection subsequent to his event).
Do any of you know of an A&P in the Ft. Myers area
who would be willing to do an annual on an RV? The
airplane will be on the market soon, so this may be
a good all-around project for a potential buyer as
More pictures to follow - or PM me.
Restaurant at Hilltop Lakes Has Reopened ...central Texas.
I just wanted to let everyone know that the
Hilltop Lakes (0TE4) restaurant has finally
reopened! Just FYI....the local flying club (T-38
club) is planning to meet for coffee/breakfast every
Saturday morning around 8:30am, so all are welcome!
In addition, lunch or dinner will be available 7
days a week. The name of the restaurant
If you have any questions, please feel free to
contact me. Hope to see you soon!
Cold (not dead) cylinder at high MP except WOT ...Rick 9A
I’m observing some behavior that I
would like the group’s opinion on.
Setup: O-320-H2AD, 33H Hobbs/19.5H Tach since OH
with new cam, lifters, new Lyc cylinders. Ellison,
standard dual mag (D3000) also OH. Sensenich fixed,
RV-9A. Compressions are 76/80 or better cold.
At full throttle/WOT – 28.5in HG for the most recent
flight - at low altitudes (takeoff), CHT and EGT’s
line up well. EGT’s are in the 1250F average range
for what it’s worth, all rich of peak. At MP’s
slightly below WOT to medium throttle – 27in HG to
20 in HG– cylinder #4 EGT falls by 100F-150F and CHT
for #4 falls by about 30F-40F versus the average of
the other three. The EGT falls fast and settles out
with thirty seconds, CHT takes a couple minutes.
Below 20in HG, all four cylinders come back together
again in EGT and CHT quickly. It is repeatable,
centering around 20in HG MP.
There really isn’t any perceived roughness, and even
in this 27in - 20in HG cold-cylinder range, #4 EGT
and CHT responds normally and consistently with the
other cylinders to leaning, they are just doing so
from a significantly different place. Since I lean
to basically 100F-150F ROP at anything less than WOT,
I can’t say if ranging from full rich to lean
changes the behavior at the transition points. I
believe it’s been occurring since hour 1.5 based on
the data (no high power data exists prior to this
time, <1.5H is all run-in), and there is no
significant metal in the first two oil changes,
suggesting I’m not wiping a lobe.
My first suspect is ignition, looking for one side
of the ignition falling off on #4. I have not done
any disassembly inspection yet, only gross
inspection of the ignition harness - no obvious
ignition leakage or damage to plug wires, and timing
is on target. I did check the intake tube clamps
(thanks Ralph, I should have mentioned it).
My plan: Run the Savvy ignition test in flight, in
various levels of richness/leanness and MP’s. If
it’s ignition, I expect it will show up pretty
clearly, and the diagnostic work from there is
(hopefully) logical: plugs, harness and magneto get
the focus. I’ll probably look at the plugs anyway –
a cylinder running that cold may be generating
deposits that may point at something (one plug not
firing being scuzzy?).
If that doesn’t give any hints, I will confirm my
secondary elements: valve lift, boroscope, pushrods.
Any hints or past experience would be welcome.
Paint Booth PIREP ...Shawn Jordan
I’m in the middle of painting my RV-4 in my
homemade paint booth and boy was I suprised. I have
A 7000cfm fan pumping air through 16sq/ft of inlet
filter and I can still fully fog up the booth with
the SPI high solid clear. I cant imagine trying to
close loop this air. If you look in the second
picture you can see how dirty the inlet filters
already are after just shooting base coat on the
fiberglass pieces. Love the scientific approach to
this though, don’t see this level of approach on the
good old car forums.
March 19, 2018. Issue
It's hard to
believe, but it has been ELEVEN YEARS since three of us
flew our RVs over Tate's kindergarten class as part of a lesson
plan. That's Tate in the black shirt and pants - he's now
taller than me. I still have all the thank you cards they made
(Tate's is in the
bottom center). Love that kid...
It goes fast, and I still think it's the best hobby on Earth.
Another RV-10 was "born" today !!!
Folks: After just under 4 years of
mostly solo work and 2700 hours of labor, I got my
RV-10 inspected today and the Airworthiness
certificate issued !!! Needless to say I'm a happy
camper. Mr Chris House from the Indianapolis FSDO
did the inspection and it was a pleasant experience.
This guy knows his stuff ! At the beginning of the
build I asked a good friend John Hubble what he
would do different if he was doing another 10 (he
has a beautiful RV-10). I did everything on his
list. It was extra hours, but I'm very pleased. I
did the Rod Bower inlet, all Garmin G3X, touch and
many other after market items. I bought so many
goodies from Aerosport Products, that they sent me a
Christmas card last year !!! I'm planning on a week
or so for the first flight.
We lost a giant: Jim Winings, gone west 3-15-18
Friends, fellow RVers, Rocketeers, and aviation
It is with great sadness that I report that we lost
a true giant from among us yesterday. Jim Winings
passed suddenly after visiting another fellow pilot
at a nursing home. Jim was found collapsed in the
parking lot by another pilot friend.
Jim had a huge impact on the RV community. He was
one of the earliest RVers, owning or building 5
RVs,including one F1 Rocket. He started early and
never let up. I talked to Jim about a week ago, and
his excitement about flying was unchanged from the
first time I met him in the late 1980's. Positively
contagious is the only way to describe him regarding
New Builder and Trailing Edge Question
I'm a new RV-14 builder - yes, no 'A' and little
wheel in back . I am working on the rudder and have
a question for the community. Sorry if this was
answered, but I couldn't find any information from
On page 07-09 - steps 1 and 2, the instructions say
to use adhesive to bond the trailing edge. However,
on page 07-10 - step 2, the instructions say "The
trailing edge will have to peeled slightly ...". I
was planning to use the 3M F9460PC VHB tape as
specified in section 5. Looks like the 3M tape is a
permanent bond, so why would we bond the trailing
edge, then attempt to peel it apart again? Won't
peeling the edge apart potentially damage the skins?
Has anyone used the 3M tape for the trailing edge?
Looks like Van's used to recommend using fuel tank
Guess this makes it official...
RV-7A JCarne Build PIREP
Time for some riveting of the
leading edges. I started out will all the nutplates
for the joint plate as well as the stall warning
access plate. Then it was off to setting rivets on
the leading edge ribs. My dad came over to help me
out with this. We had all the ribs riveted in about
2 hours. It sure was nice to be riveting again and
not deal with gorilla snot the whole way. Let me
know what you all think of the riveting.
First Flight ...7A
First flight of RV-7A S/N 74594
temporary tail number N859DF from Mallard's Landing
(GA04) this afternoon.
Flew about 45 minutes, ran engine hard, then
performed clean and dirty 1G stalls and back for a
CHT's with Bill Lane's excellent plenum were better
than expected with a new engine. Oil temp rock
steady at 180.
A few minor squawks but overall very satisfied with
the performance of the airplane. Now on to the rest
of Phase I...
Locust Grove, GA
Closed-loop spray booth
I set out to make a spray booth
inside the garage, so I bought one of these MiCS5524
VOC sensor breakout boards and hooked it up to an
oscilloscope to try out as air quality monitor. It
turns out these cheap MEMS devices are ridiculously
sensitive to a wide variety of organic solvents used
in paints and primers.
Next I bought some carbon air filter media through
eBay, rolled up some 1/2" chicken wire into a 4"x2'
tube as a sort of intake manifold for the Harbor
Freight blower #31810 (sans bag), wrapped the entire
filter media roll around the chicken wire tube and
plugged the other end of the tube with a piece of
cardboard. I let this contraption run inside the
closed garage, recirculating the air through the
A New RV-10 Builder Here
Thought I would let everyone know
that I am now a proud owner of a partially completed
RV-10 kit. It has QB wings and fuse, so it's pretty
I have really enjoyed my 6A and have decided that
the 4 seats or additional cargo capacity better
suits my current flying. I will sell the 6A once the
10 is done and worry about missing the shear fun of
tossing the little 6 around for fun. I don't think I
can justify keeping both though.
I look forward to sharing ideas and more
specifically leveraging the experience of those who
traveled the road before me.
Deep Dish Dash ...petehowell
50 and sunny in the upper Midwest today, so ya
gotta fly, right? Bernie and I decided that it was
time for some real Deep. Dish. Pie. A quick web
search turned up a Lou Malnati's in the NW burbs of
the Windy City, just a few miles from Lake in the
Hills Airport(Tree-Chuck-Kilo) A call to the nice
lady at the City FBO confirmed the old Crown Vic
would be waiting.
Weigh-In Day ...Scott Balmos
(In boxing match announcer voice) Aaaaaaaand in
the silver corner, coming in fully loaded with full
Classic Aero interior, every conceivable Garmin G3X
Touch gizmo, an IO-320 with EFII injection/ignition,
and a 3-blade Catto prop... Weighing a stout 1088.4
lbs, RV-9A 112SB...
Right about where I thought it'd be, all said and
done. The interior isn't actually installed, same
with the wheel pants and fairings. But everything
was tossed in where it would end up being. I freaked
out for a moment when the right wheel was about 15
lbs heavier than the left wheel. Then I remembered
that's the wing that has the roll servo, my NAV
antenna in the tip, the Bus Manager and VPX under
the panel, and the ELT, transponder, and ADSB behind
the baggage bulkhead.
Yes, I know the math doesn't /exactly/ add up, off
by <1 lb depending on whether you breathed on the
scales or not.
March 16, 2018. Issue
Wishing you and
yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend.
Mashy after takeoff. RV-7.
So cool he requires two pairs of sunglasses. ;^)
A variation on the Dynon Network Hub ...az_gila
For my -6A I used a single Skyview
and had less Dynon add-ons. The Dynon network cables
make hook-up easy, but splitting power and putting
splices in the servo cables bugged me.
So, for my -10 build I came up with a simple
alternative idea to Dynon's network hub. I designed
a 5 port hub, but added two custom connectors
dedicated to servo hook-ups only, all on a single
2.5" x 3.8" ExpressPCB mini card. It's a much
cleaner solution to the servo power wiring issue. I
can now connect all of my planned network items
easily behind the panel and only use one box as a
Amanda Melton proprietor (Steve's daughter).
The ad is in the Previous
Day's News section.
name is Amanda and I created the website
www.rvplasticparts.com. I chose the name because
we print plastic parts for RV aircraft. The website
was created using Wix and I manage it. I receive
orders and send a confirmation email; print the
parts, inspect, and box and ship. I use USPS for
shipping and send a confirmation email and tracking
number. I assembled my own PC and manage the website
with it. I add parts to the website when we have a
new idea or get an idea from someone on
VansAirForce.net. I keep fish and I recently
resealed a 55 gallon fish tank that I got off of
craigslist. I fly with my Dad to my Grandparents and
one time we stopped at Cairo Illinois and saw where
the Ohio River meets the Mississippi River.
RV-8 Shot ...Neal Trombley
Houston RV Bunch This Weekend
March 15, 2018. Issue
via RV ...
...a breakfast fly-out told in pics and txt via cloud-based photo
album (and voice dictation software).
Literally phoned it
Here goes nothing
Well it’s official.
Van’s Builder Number 140477. Empennage kit ordered.
So it begins.
Due in a large part of the all the support from my Family, the EAA
SportAir Workshop, Webinars, Homebuilt Help tips, Chapter 643, the
Mothership, and of course VAF - I feel (barely) able to take on a
project like this. There is SO much to learn and decide, but it’s a
blast diving in the past few years and preparing.
I’m humbled by all those, including many of you here, who have come
before and blazed the path. It’s inspiring.
One day I hope to know what a roller tapppet is and what’s so
special about them
Static Port Conundrum ...mfleming
Installing the static ports (Dynon) was next on my list.
All was well, I had the port locations marked on both sides of the
fuselage, researched wether I was going to use the Dynon ports or
order the Van's rivets (Dynon) and was ready to drill the holes.
Annnnnd.... then I came across Van's Static Port Kit instructions.
#3 Running cool
Just noticed our #3 running cool. CHT down 25f, EGT down 100f in
the cruise at 23/23. IO-360, 350 hours from new, no other issues.
Pulled through 4 great compressions after the flight with no
EGT probes are old on 1, 2 and 4 - planning on changing soon.
Ran comprehensive ignition check in the cruise, no difference so
can't see it is a plug or lead issue.
Suggestions welcomed, may get the shufty scope down the plug hole
Aresti Made Simple
For those that may have an interest in aerobatic competition, I
realize that one of the things that may seem complicated is the
Aresti System. The Aresti System is a system of depicting and
scoring the many aerobatic figures and their multitude of
variations. It’s called a system because there is method to the
madness. It was designed by a Spanish Air Force Colonel, José Luis
Aresti, many decades ago and it is used universally for aerobatic
competitions. The files below are written for the r/c
(radio-controlled aircraft) community and it is presented in a
simplified method. Caution, there may be some differences from the
actual Aresti catalog.
Yuma PIREP ...Roy Thoma
March 14, 2018. Issue
Charles Wickware photo.
RV-8 and the Clear Day
Saturday, 3/10/18, was a rare clear day in both
Western and Eastern Washington allowing for easy
travel over the big pile of rocks separating the
two. Awesome visibility and only a little bumpiness
down low in the vicinity of Richland. The route took
us from Arlington to Richland, to Moses Lake, to
Stehekin, and back to Arlington. About 365 NM in 2.7
hrs (my flyin' buddy made it in a little less [his
-8 is faster]).
The video is a little long, so you may want to
make some popcorn.
Finally, it’s alive (again) ...Scott 1993 RV-6
I’ll post more soon in the engine section, but
I’m just pleased right now to announce that my
airplane is alive again, rocking a freshly repaired
and upgraded engine.
My original intent was to simply upgrade from 7:1 to
8.5:1 pistons, but after finding a cam issue, it’s
now got a new cam, crank bearings, freshly
inspected, ground, and sb’d crank, 9:1 pistons, dual
pmags instead of one...
After the engine shop ran me through several check /
heat and cool cycles, I got to get it in the air
again for the first time in two months!
I definitely need to repitch my GA200 prop, and I’m
excited to see what kind of gains I’ve actually
Can’t say enough good stuff about my home field
engine shop. These guys were GREAT!
Skyview Software Update 15.3.3
Kyle Boatright posts this pic.
Steve Ashby replies, "...your prop looks
awful. For cryin out loud, junk that experimental
thing and just get a Hartzel."
March 13, 2018. Issue
The popcorn balls
arrive in N.TX! The Bradford Pears are currently blooming -
iPhone picture below from the RV-6 Monday morning. Really
Segue to a milestone of sorts....as of a couple days ago we have 25,000
registered forum accounts. Thanks again for goofing off at
work and helping make the magic happen.
Leo Wipplinger (1945 - 2018) ...RV-7A
It is with great sadness and broken hearts, we
share that Leo Wipplinger (my father) — beloved
husband, father, grandfather, and great grandfather
passed away. Although we mourn losing him, we are
filled with great joy because he now is enjoying the
presence of the Lord, his Savior. We will always
remember how hard he worked for our family, his
passion for the outdoors (flying, fishing, and
hunting), and his love for his family. Leo had a
heart to help those in need. If you would like to
honor him, please make a donation in his name to
Neighborhood Ministries: http://www.nmphx.com/get-involved/donate/
in lieu of sending flowers.
We will be having his celebration of life ceremony
on April 7, 2018, at Desert View Bible Church 105 W
Carefree Hwy, Phoenix, Arizona, 85086, (Time TBD).
RV-10 Doors and Tinnermans
How do you determine..and fuel levels
How do you determine if you have
resistive float senders, or capacitive senders in
I am beginning to calibrate the fuel levels in my
RV9A for a GRT EIS system, which I didnt build, with
a bit of difficulty.
On my attempt yesterday, I filled the right tank one
gallon at a time, noting the reading on the EIS
after each. The empty reading was 4.2 It began to
change on the 4th gallon.
Then, it stopped changing at the 7th gallon, and
read 5.7 each gallon there after. this isnt going to
Resistive usually are just a flat thin metal plate
on the outside of the tank and capacitive are
usually 1/2" thick and plastic with epoxy filled
center. The gauges normally do not read right to the
top and if the sensor was not installed all the way
to the bottom it might not read down to one gallon.
A: Restive senders have
only one wire, airframe is used as ground to
complete the circuit.
Capacitive units that I have seen will have two
wires, sometimes coax, and use a converter box.
A: OK, As far as I
know, I have but one wire.
But..I didnt trace it to the tank.
The craft had the standard Vans 2 1/4 round fuel
gauges in it. they seemed to work ok in the 75 hours
I flew it before I started the GRT upgrade..
IF I understand this GRT EIS fuel level calibration
correctly, They recommend using the reading for full
tanks as the level where the float sender stops
changing..and the empty reading as the level it
stops when going empty..in my case, it seems that I
will have an empty reading at 3 gallons, and a full
reading at 7. hmm..as I said, thats not going to
work for a 16 gallon tank.
I went thru the math several times on the GRT
Im scratching my head. If the sender output stopped
increasing after the 7th gallon added...I guess it
could be faulty..hard to believe it would only have
a 3 to 7 gallon range of motion. (if its a float)
aircraft was level sitting in the hanger.
A: First, check the
wiring. You should have a wire from the regulated
power (4.7 volts, I think) going to a resistor (470
ohms). The other side of the resistor is connected
to both the EIS input for fuel level, and the center
terminal on the float gauge. The other side of the
gauge should be grounded locally.
Turn off the aircraft master switch (power off).
Disconnect the wire from the float gauge center
terminal. Put an ohmmeter on the center terminal,
and measure resistance to ground. It should be
somewhere between 30 and 250 ohms.
If all this works, there are several ways to trouble
shoot. My guess is on the wiring.
With the wire still disconnected, but not shorted to
ground, turn the power on. Put the voltmeter on the
disconnected wire and measure the voltage (other
probe on a good ground). It should be 4.7 volts. If
not, there's a wiring problem. With the same setup,
carefully hold a 470 ohm resistor between the probes
(while still in contact with the wire). You should
see the voltage drop in half, to, 2.3 volts or so.
If grossly off, you don't have a 470 ohm resistor on
the other end. You'll need to find it and replace
Finally, if you suspect the sender:
Drain the fuel, then start adding it back into the
tank. Measure the resistance each time you add fuel.
You should see it smoothly go from about 250 ohms to
about 30 ohms (probably stop changing as you get
with 3 or 4 gallons of full). (I might have it
backwards, 30 to 250? I forget.)
Hole in the Rock ...Vlad seen from the air
Like many high schools, Westosha Central High
School in Paddock Lock, Wisconsin, struggled to make
science, technology, engineering, and math (STEM)
studies relevant and exciting.
“Unfortunately, a lot of programs misuse the term
STEM,” said James Senft, a pilot for the last 30
years who taught high school physics and is now a
college administrator. “Kids are losing that
connection to applied STEM knowledge because many
schools have eliminated hands-on courses like shop
and auto mechanics.”
Falcon RV Squadron ...reaching out.
over 43 flying RV’s at KFFC (Falcon Field, Peachtree
City, GA), opportunities for RV fellowship abound.
Formation flights, leaf tours, cookouts, and of
course , our every Tuesday Mellow Mushroom Pizza
luncheon. It is preceded at the local gun range with
some shooting and a little friendly marksmanship
competition. Here are some of our Squadron mates
If you are in the south Atlanta area come join us!
11:30 every Tuesday! Fly in,
call me, and someone will pick you up and throw
in a trip to AIrcraft Spruce east as a bonus!
SB 18-02-02 PIREP ... scottmillhouse RV-12
Just finished this up today and it probably took
closer to 16 hours than 6. I prepped, primed and
painted all parts before disassembly of the tail. No
real pitfalls until reassembly.
Then spent hours getting the pivot bolts and spacing
washers in. The newly boxed in structure makes
access much more challenging and only from
underneath. Connecting the stabilator cable
tensioner solo is extremely challenging but I
eventually worked out a way to do it solo. Connect
the top, pull the lower cable as far forward as
possible, wrap tape around the clevis body and clamp
lightly with vice grips from the bottom. Insert a
piece of cardboard at rear bulkhead to protect it
from the vice grips. (the vice grips will push
against the bulkhead and lock the lower cable
position) With your right hand use the tail leverage
to match holes by pulling down on the rear of the
stabilator. When aligned insert a short #3 bolt in
from the trim motor side. Then slowly from the right
work in the correct bolt to the right clevis side to
put in the spacer washer and then to the left to
install washer followed by outside washer and castle
nut/counter pin. Probably is impossible solo to pull
the cable tension directly from the clevis and put
in the bolt.
Also plan on a lot of trimming to the top rear
fuselage cap faring if built per plans. The exposed
plates are notched but the notch ends probably 3/8"
farther to the front than the clearance previously
required for the box spar. Bottom is easy, just the
March 12, 2018. Issue
BillL's Double Offset Rivet Mod ...from
For the longest time I could not drive a good
rivet with a double offset. Tape did not work for
me. A couple of clamps and piece of baffle material
did the job, cheap to try it out. Good luck, use
lots of tape on the set and practice.
HS Inspar rib to front spar-spacing ...Eztroller
I am not happy with the spacing on
this particular part. Trying to figure out what is
causing it and am having a hard time.... looking
through several books and have not been able to find
the answer. Can someone point me in the correct
Mild Panic Setting in on Antennas ...Michael Fleming RV-7
So first off, I have searched
about this topic but have come up dry.
When do I have to make decisions on when and where
to install antennas?
I'm building a -7 and only a couple months in on
working on a QB fuselage.
Looking around the forum I see QB's that are not
much further along than mine with all manner of
brackets and holes for electronics and antennas.
The mantra I keep hearing is wait to the last
possible moment to buy avionics due to the
increasing capability and decreasing cost.
So I guess the other big question is when is the
I've been hedging my bets on going Garmin or Dynon...
and if I can swing it going at least basic IFR.
Build Update ...Bullseye RV-7
Mag Replacement PIREP ...Vlad
Thank you very much again. Your magneto works like a
swiss watch, clocked first 15 hours on it. They made
good stuff in last century. You have to speed up and
finish that RV9A of yours and we go two ships to
Russia. Not in flip flops though...
After buzzing your country side for couple days I
came back home to this."
APRS Shoutout to Paul ...Vlad
Amazon Ranch Update ...Vlad
10,000 Year Clock Six Years Later ...Vlad
More Hangar Time ...bobmarkert
How to get more hangar time AND
extra points at home.....
Step 1 Install washer and dryer in hangar
Me: "Honey I'm going to the hangar to do some
Honey: "OK, have a great day, I'll have supper
waiting when you get home"
..... You're welcome guys
March 9, 2018. Issue
Wishing you and
yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend.
Big Bend - Lajitas Golf Resort & Spa ...tcard RV-9A Trip Write-up
I have a friend, 'crazy Marti'
according to Scott, that is an amateur photographer
and bluebonnet fanatic. We've been talking for a few
years about trying to fly down to the Big Bend area
in Texas that has a different variety of bluebonnet
than what we have in Central Texas.
Ours grow low to the ground in
dense fields, but in the desert they are sparse with
flower stalks that get several feet tall. The stars
finally aligned in 2018 for a 3-day girl's get-away
weekend. The lodge in the park was already fully
booked, and as it turns our that was good luck for
our bluebonnet hunting crew. The option of flying
into Alpine or Marfa and renting a car didn't sound
very entertaining. The winning selection was to stay
at the Lajitas Golf Resort and Spa and land at its
6000' x 100' private airport. Luck was shining down
upon us, and I think we got the cheapest room in the
joint at $210 a night.
Getting Ready to Main Rivet Wing Skins ...NorthernRV4
Well, a little later than I
thought I'd be but I'm ready to rivet the top main
wing skins on the port wing. Leading edge is fully
riveted, and all all ribs are pop riveted and bolts
torqued except the inboard 3 ribs which I'll leave
until the wing is completely closed. In Canada we
have to have an inspection before I can rivet the
bottom wing skins in place.
I'm looking for advice to make this process easier
and avoid potential pitfalls. Here's what I have so
First oil change - ran into an issue...JackinMichigan
Attempted to do the first oil change on my Lycoming
IO-540 today after 5 hours of engine time (break-in
oil) and ran into a problem. When I got the old oil
filter off, the one that came with the engine (and
it was a BEAR to get off), the threaded brass nipple
that I'm pretty sure is supposed to stay in the
engine came off with the old filter. It's solidly
affixed to the old filter, and there's nothing to
grab onto to try to spin it off. I'm leery of
cutting apart the filter for fear of damaging the
threads (oil and fuel systems are things I try not
to get too creative with), so before I continue I
want to throw this out to the group:
- How do I get this brass nipple out of the old
filter? If that's not advisable, where can I get
- Would off-the-shelf Locktite prevent this from
happening again or is there something better?
Thanks in advance. You guys never disappoint.
Hoses with integrated fire sleeves from TS Flightlines ...ronschreck
Check out the hoses that my friend
Tom Swearengen of TS Flightlines sent me. I am busy
installing my overhauled IO-360 engine after 2150
hours of trouble free service. Tom offers these
hoses with "integrated fire sleeves" which give the
hoses a great look with a surface that is smooth and
easy to keep clean. I sent Tom all of my old hoses
and he matched them for a perfect fit. Thanks, Tom
for great service and a super product! (I have no
connection to TS Flightlines other than knowing Tom
personally and appreciating the fine work that he
RV TRANSITION TRAINING SURVEY ...Dick VanGrunsven
(from the mothership FB page)
It is becoming increasingly evident that the fatal
accident rate for RVs is considerably lower than
that of E-AB aircraft in general. While it is
difficult to calculate exact rates, most accident
analyses show it to be approximately 2-4 times less
than the average. I think that insurance
underwriters would agree in that they more readily
provide coverage for RVs than for many other E-AB
designs. These same insurance providers indirectly
contribute to this elevated safety by requiring a
prescribed level of specific aircraft type flight
experience prior to providing coverage. This is
usually in the form of Type Transition training.
Fortunately, there are a number of highly qualified
TT instructors who offer quality training in various
RV models. This training undoubtedly contributes
directly to lower accidents rates.
Many years ago this was not the case. Builders of
E-AB airplanes either simply became overnight “test
pilots”, or at best could garner a familiarization
flight with some willing RV pilot. “Take the
controls for a while to get the feel of it” and
maybe “shoot a landing or two” if conditions
permitted was a common indoctrination into the realm
of flight test. The thousands of you who have had
the good fortune and sense to receive quality TT
training can most assuredly see the shortcomings of
this methodology. Throughout homebuilt history,
accident rates for “first flights” and operations
during the “first 10 hours” have been appallingly
high. Sadly, for many models of E-AB aircraft, this
reality continues. It is demonstrably better for
RVs. This is due to a variety of reasons, but
superior pilot preparation/training is arguably a
I am inclined to believe that in
addition to the obvious benefit of exposing the
trainee to the unique qualities of a specific
aircraft, the requirement that trainees meet a
stringent “stick & rudder” standard set by exacting
TT instructors yields an elevated level of
competence and refinement. This may be a slight
overstatement; however it is my belief that our TT
instructors impose a higher criterion for pilot
performance than is expected by examiners of newly
minted private pilots, or by instructors providing
biannual flight reviews. If my observation is
correct, we may have re-discovered a safety secret;
better pilots. Not just better prepared to fly their
new RV, but better regardless of the aircraft they
choose to fly.
On this basis, wouldn’t most GA
pilots develop into becoming safer if they were to
receive similar “upgrade/refresher/recurrent”
training? You undertook this type-training because
of insurance requirements, your fellow RV builders
encouraged it, and you possess good sense. Enticing
other GA pilots to take “self-improvement” training
perhaps may be difficult without the specific goals
and motivation you had.
My purpose in writing this is to solicit your input.
If you had TT prior to test flying your RV, I’d like
to hear your comments on the training specifics you
considered most important and reaped the greatest
benefit. To name yourself or instructor is not a
requirement. Obviously, to validate my observations
and opinions as stated above would be gratifying in
light of our overall goal of increasing safety but I
also welcome differing experiences and conclusions,
regardless if being contradictory to mine. We learn
from sharing. If you have suggestions for ways of
encouraging all GA pilots to take upgrade training,
please include them.
I’d appreciate your prompt
response so that I may use this as a basis in
advocating for more widespread TT within the
homebuilt community and beyond. If better pilot
training improves RV safety, we need to spread the
good news to all in GA.
Please respond to Support
'at' vansaircraft 'dot' com. Type”
Transition Training” on the subject line.
March/April 2018 FAA
Safety Briefing Now Online
March 8, 2018. Issue
0' - 10,000' in
...world record in turbo rotary HRII (I think).
Vlad's Mag Fixed
An RV builder in Phoenix is removing a magneto from
his project as we speak and will be driving to
Deming in an hour or two. I couldn’t thanks enough
to VAF camaraderie. You guys rock!
Last I saw Vlad - about 45 minutes ago - he was
preparing to depart Deming. Replacement mag
installed and working as expected.
John R. (sorry, can't recall your full last name) is
a SAINT! He pulled a mag from his project engine,
drove it to Deming from Phoenix (350 miles), helped
Vlad install it, and now get's to drive all the way
back! Well done John!!
moved the thread from 'Temp' to 'RV Maintenance'
because it just read so dang awesome! Feel
good story of the week! v/r,dr]
AviationNation--first national award!
I was unaware we were even nominated, but
received news that we have been selected for the
Frank G. Brewer award this year. It is for youth
aviation education achievement. The trophy resides
in the National Air and Space Museum. Thanks go to
Jim Brewer, Chief Mentor of our Omaha project, and I
am sure many others. For info on this award (and a
pic of the trophy,) see https://naa.aero/awards/awards-and-t.../brewer-trophy
After all these years of hard work, this certainly
does bring a nice, warm feeling.
Bob Kelly, Scipio, Indiana
Panel Porn ...msaltzman14 RV-9A
Millionaire Camels in Yuma
...Capt Sandy Trip Write-up
Today Roy and I were finally back to exploring in
the SMC (Silver Magic Carpet) after a month or more
of being grounded due to human systems malfunctions.
Felt GREAT to be flying again. We flew from Lake
Havasu (KHII) to Yuma, Arizona (KNYL). The folks at
Millionaire Aviation were oh so kind and helpful. We
expected an expensive ramp fee, expensive fuel, and
not sure what the courtesy car situation might be.
Self-serve fuel turned out to be some of the least
expensive around, ramp fee waved with fuel purchase,
the facility fee was $5 and included coupons to
purchase food at the Millionaire café for $1 each!
(We’re not cheap, we’re FRUGAL) And the food was
RV-8 Build Status Report ...sapeloson
Just about ready to start buttoning her up for
March 7, 2018. Issue
The back is still a
little twitchy but on the mend. Turbo, I read that whole book
on it you sent years back - thanks again! So in the mean time
I worked on camera technique as some of the usual suspects went out
for their RV flights on a nice Tuesday at 52F.
The 2001-era Canon EOS-1D Mark IIn I'm using takes 8.5 pictures per
second at 3,504 X 2,336 pixels (L) with a max burst rate of (48)
pictures at that resolution. I shot (162) pictures, and still
mostly suck at it. I read the camera was a favorite of sports
photographers when it came out, but I could argue that maybe these
RVs are just as challenging in some regards...if not more.
There is that fifth of a second where the plane is between hangars with
blue sky behind it, not too high or low. 1/200th blurs the
prop and about every other picture if you're not smooth as it goes
by. And you're panning out as it goes by, and swiveling.
And let's face it....these planes are FAST.
I'm trying to get better, and am grateful I'm not using film ;^).
Some highlights for your amusement...click to enlarge.
rest for this plane
The rest for this
The rest for
The rest for
Note: If you cycle through the pics
taken of this 8A you can see the pilot take a quick
glance at me just after takeoff ;^).
The rest for this
Understanding and Comparing Canon Burst Rates
Community Wide Ping:
Stuck in Deming, NM with dead Slick 4370 ...Vlad
Milestone: 9A Wings Done! ...PilotjohnS
Wings are done. Took me 13 months, but I am happy
with the results. A big thank you to all those who
helped. Now I need to remove the plastic and build a
roadie box for long term storage. Yeah!
I found it easy to do all the work with the wing on
the stand. I cant imagine how much harder it would
have been if the bottom skins were riveted on while
the wing was flopping on a table.
I will add the tips and avionics during the
finishing stages; its too early to buy the avionics.
Here is a picture of the pitot and AoA tubes. I
just heated them up and slide them on. The metal
tube was prepared by plugging the tubing to keep the
crud out, rounding the end and abrading the last
1/2" so the plastic tube would stick better. Also
visible is the bracket to hold the conduit away from
the access cover screws.
March 6, 2018. Issue
2,877 x 1,860 pixel full size
It OMGs me sometime
at the amounts of money some folks spend on
airplanes, cars, houses, boats, TVs and phones,
while not spending a couple of bucks a month to
store a copy of their digital content in a second
location. IMHO, for me it's the smartest four
bucks a month I currently spend - being able to put
unlimited pictures on the web in their full,
pillowcase-sized glory (also where I backup around
personal digital pictures...and my phone data in
Sometimes I even
use a folder to
tell a RV travel story.
On to today's picture.
Above is a pic from a month or so ago in
its 2,877 x 1,860 pixel awesomeness showing
Scorch turning off (just landed to the north) and
Scroll back-taxiing down to his Delta turnoff.
I like how Scorch is slightly out of focus and the
slight elevation change at the north end is
exaggerated. The 200mm lens was maxed out.
PS: I keep another
copy of all my digital content at a 2nd spot for
insurance. It's what the kids do these days.
RV-8 and the Alternate Plan ...ArlingtonRV (Steve Rush)
Saturday (3/3/18) was a slightly
better day on the wet side of the mountains in
Washington State. We had planned a trip to the dry
side, but lots of clouds over the mountains made
that seem unwise. Anyway, it looked a lot like this.
[ed. 11min video!
Lycoming Carbureted O-290-D2 EGT out of Family ...snopercod
The saga continues
I watched the carb temperature all winter and never
once saw the temperature get down into the icing
zone, even during an idle power descent on a cold
day. Enough heat is transferred from the oil sump to
keep the carb warm. So I'm confident that my
particular engine just doesn't need carb heat on
descent. (Of course it's there if I ever need it.)
I'm still debating the wisdom of removing the temp
sensor that sticks out into the throat of the carb.
Several commenters have recommended that and they're
probably right. What I have found over the last six
months is that the rearmost cylinders 3 & 4 run lean
at WOT on takeoff with the mixture full rich. That's
probably not a good thing, but to compensate, I pull
back on the throttle a little when reaching 500' and
the EGTs even out. You can see that in the graph
below. It's curious because I would have expected
that with the throttle fly vertical, more fuel would
reach the rear cylinders than when the fly was aimed
more toward the front. I think my next step will be
to drill out the "peppermill" holes I drilled in the
nozzle years ago to provide more fuel to the rear
cylinders. IIRC, they're only #57 now, and in the
photos of the Marvel nozzles, they look much bigger.
Full Throttle Throttle back Leaned out for Cruise:
N314KC gets new clothes ...KeithB
N314KC was the 24th RV-14 completed. Her first
flight was March 8,2017 and she now has 190 hours.
Last Friday, I picked her up from the paint shop.
New Paint Curing Oven ...mfleming
Sooooo...first thing I'll say is that my wife is
out of town or I might not have tried this new idea.
I painted my brake pedals in my slightly chilly (sub
60°F garage). After drying all night I wasn't happy
with far along the curing process was. Our clothes
dryer has this insert for things you want to dry but
don't want tumbling around.
One hour on high (about 145°F) really hardens up the
I don't think I would have put these in the dryer
if the paint wasn't pretty far along on curing...not
sure what kind of explosive fume paint gives off in
the early stages
-7 Elevator Bellcrank Install Issue
I'm installing the F-635 elevator bellcrank
assembly on my -7 QB fuselage.
The quick builders drilled the ¼" bolt hole in the
F-729A bellcrank rib and angle. They also drilled
the hole in the F-728A bellcrank channel BUT did not
drill the F-728B angle.
This seems like a critical hole to drill so the bolt
is square with the structure.
My problem is how to drill through the angle and not
get off center??
Here's the drawing.
From Audrey Reeves ...the 'AR' in N617AR
(email to Dad)
Thought you might be interested in
this article that summarizes some of the work I
was doing last semester. That lab is partnered with
the pharmaceutical company Novartis, and we met with
their research head Jay Bradner while I was there
(which is mentioned in the article).
March 5, 2018. Issue
Nice Wx Fri and Sat in N. TX, but it turned OVC
and BR/RA all of Sun. Got to do a little flying Friday
with locals out to the Red Barn Cafe in Sulphur Springs (33.156859,
-95.619019) 80 miles east of Dallas. Pano below suitable for
2-monitor setup. Some chores on Saturday and
spent most of Sunday nursing back spasms (dumb old body) - occurs from time to time. Much better Sunday night.
Hope you had a nice weekend and got to do some RV stuff.
Pink Slip! ...Krea Ellis RV-7A
I just wanted to express my gratitude and appreciation to Vern
Darley, who came to my hangar at Mallard's Landing in Locust Grove
for the inspection of our RV-7A.
Vern was exceptionally thorough, knowledgeable and very pleasant to
work with. He found a few minor discrepancies and although I was a
little embarrassed that he found anything, he did not make me feel
foolish for my oversight. I was most impressed with his attention to
detail and professionalism.
Once the RV-7A is flying, I intend to get back to the RV-10 project
and I look forward to working with Vern again. I highly recommend
him as an EAA Tech Counselor, for DAR services, pre-buys and any
other needs you might have.
Thanks again, Vern!
Bendix Still Kicking Out ...Jim Rice
So far, I’ve tried about everything and still having problems.
New battery, new cables, new master and starter solenoids and took
starter to local armature shop and they say nothing is wrong with
starter, yet I am still experiencing same problem. I’ve cleaned and
reconnected all connections. After 2-3 blades, the bendix kicks out.
Motor continues turning normally, but Bendix disengages.
Occasionally, I’ll get 6-8 blades before it kicks out.
Today, after changing cable from starter solenoid to starter with
#2AWG welding cable and new heavy terminals voltage drop during
cranking was 0.4 volts from 12.5 to 12.1V . Voltage drop on ground
side was only 0.15V.
Despite what armature shop says, I think I have an internal starter
issue. I guess next step is a new starter. My starter is a
Delco-Remy Prestolite. I don’t really want SkyTech or B&C
lightweight starter because I need the weight up front the old
starter provides. I already have the Landoll balancer ring.
Low fuel Pressure Root Cause maybe
I have a fuel inject Superior 320. Over the last
few months I have been experiencing intermittent low
fuel pressure until now where it is consistently low
(5 - 10lb) The backup pump must be run for the
engine to stay running. Knowing that the engine
driven fuel pumps are very reliable I started
looking else where. What I found is what appears to
be a failure with the fuel plunger and the cam(see
So I have two questions; any ideas how this could
happen, could this be a defect in the plunger or
Second - To fix this will obviously require pulling
the engine and accessory case. What I was thinking
was just adding a second electric fuel pump forgoing
the mechanical pump. I have dual electronic ign, so
I'm already electrically dependent. My bigger
concern is hot starts. The mechanical pump vs. the
full pressure of the electrical pump on startup.
any help would be greatly appreciated!
Haven't quite figured out the quirks of nutplates
yet i guess.
This is the tie-down AEX attached to the wing spar. The bolts here
attach a powder coated bracket which I think is part of the aileron
actuation bits and pieces.
Did I strip it? If so, do I need to drill out all the rivets to
replace this nutplate? Or just change the bolt? I think this
happened because my socket was too deep to help push those first few
threads in. I have been using a dab of wax on the bolt.
Extending My RV-9A Fuel Tanks: Documented ...9GT
Build PIREP ...jcarne 7A
The airplane factory is back in action!!! After waiting a painful
couple of months for the weather to get warm it is time to get back
into the garage for perhaps my most productive year yet!
Back in January my fueselage kit arrived, btw, when FedEx shows up
later than expected and you think you can move the fuselage kit with
just your wife, start making calls to avoid an argument!
I underestimated what a pain that box was going to be to get into
the house but we got it done.
Like Christmas two weeks later!
Chris Cooper's RV-14 Build Blog
March 2, 2018. Issue
As promised yesterday, the
wallpaper calendar for
March is now live (February 30th...some know it as March 2nd).
Drop dead gorgeous photo by Ed Hicks. Wishing you and yours a
happy, safe and RV-filled weekend.
RV-3B Construction PIREP ...David Paule
I finally reread the manual for the areas I've
been working on. Should have done that earlier, as
it would have told me the correct way to assemble
that spar bulkhead strip that I had to unrivet. The
manual says "The rivet holes through the skins and
the bottom flanges of bulkhead F-303 should not be
drilled until both skins are in place."
I agree with this with one exception: if you drill
through the bulkhead flanges first, then when the
skins are in place, you can back-drill through the
skins using a 12" bit, and there will be no
difficulty locating the holes on the skins. Just
watch out for edge distance when you're locating the
holes on the flanges and when you set up the skins
Also, note that some of the rivets are -4. When
you're doing the drilling, if you don't go bigger
than #40 at this time, you'll save yourself some
time. You can drill those holes to #30 before
dimpling. Just don't forget.
I glued the strip on to the flanges. That'll let me
remove those clecos during the fitting of the
forward belly skin.
A machinist friend made the button at the end of the
manual flap handle and cut the slot. The bearing
blocks for this are ready now, too. The plans don't
show it but the manual correctly says to install
nutplates under the bearing block mounting angle to
facilitate easier maintenance. Since my seat rib
flanges were running low on edge distance (the
extruded angle is ample) I made a small plate to
rivet the nutplates to, and then riveted the plate
to the frame. The other side is complete too.
New (March 2018) Garmin GDL 50/50R ADS-B Receivers ...g3xpert
are pleased to announce the Garmin GDL 50 portable
and GDL 50R remote mount ADS-B receivers that are
capable of receiving Automatic Dependent
Surveillance-Broadcast (ADS-B) traffic and weather.
Both units also provide built-in attitude sensors
and a GPS receiver. The GDL 50 includes a built-in
rechargeable battery which provides battery
operation for up to 8 hours. While battery and "3D"
attitude was optional on the GDL 39, these features
are standard on the GDL 50.
Exclusive traffic features such as TargetTrend™ and
TerminalTraffic™ further enhance the ADS-B traffic
picture and are unique to Garmin products.
Wireless and hardwired compatibility is provided for
G3X™ Touch, the aera® 660 and aera 795/796 aviation
portables, as well as wireless connectivity with the
Garmin Pilot app, giving customers access to a
full-featured suite of weather products, ADS-B
traffic and more using a single device.
Each of these receivers supports 2 wired (RS-232)
display connections and 2 wireless (Bluetooth)
display connections for a total of 4 display
One of our most popular G3X Touch installations is
one with dual displays, and with the GDL 50R/51R/52R
we can now hardwire the RS-232 interfaces to both
displays, and leave the 2 wireless interfaces
available for portable units.
If you already have a GDL 39 interface mount/cable
for your Aera 660/795/796, you can plug it directly
into the GDL 50/51/52 since these units use the same
connector/wiring as the GDL 39 for power and data.
The GDL 50/50R are the latest additions to the GDL
50/51/52 line of ADS-B and SXM traffic/weather/music
GDL 50/50R with ADS-B Traffic/Weather, attitude, and
GPS (Availalble now for $849)
Trying to wrap my head around this .. p45-05 fig 1 ...bkervaski
On page 45-05, fig 1, the exploded view shows an
inside corner line that calls for an angle that
doesn't make sense to me.
I'm looking for some clarity, as this cut would seem
to result in a triangle opening in the cowl and
omitting it will have both cowls mate evenly.
Confused. Edit: I found this pic (not mine,
it's on E's site). This is correct? Is there an
obvious reason for the triangle cut-out I'm missing?
Stress relief perhaps?
Fiberglass Painting Tip ...Carl Froehlich
Don’t forget fiberglass and ultraviolet light do
not mix well. Put something on it.
This is what I do for flying before final paint:
- Prep all fiberglass to fill pinholes per the Van’s
- White two part epoxy primer on the inside of the
cowl (e.g. PPG DP48LF). Two coats. Do this before
first engine start.
- Van’s stick on aluminum heat shield on the inside
of the cowl in the obvious places (check for
discolor after the first few flights and add as
- One coat of PPG epoxy primer on outside of the
cowl and all fiberglass.
- One coat PPG single stage paint in your choice of
color on top of the primer. I find a medium blue
goes well with the rest of the plane in bare
- Anything you can do to prep the glass will be
appreciated by your painter (especially if that
painter is you). He might even drop the price a
little as he’ll see the PITA fiberglass prep is well
started. The primer and top coat paint will also
give the paint guy material to block sand - that
will only improve the final product.
- Even though you plan on painting right after the
flight test program, odds are you will be flying
like this for some time. The simple extra step of
adding a coat of color on the fiberglass will make
it look worlds better.
March 1, 2018. 0007Z. Issue
We've had some
damp Wx lately here around the 'ol Van Cave, but by dumb luck
there was a gap between rain bands when I pulled into the airport
Wednesday morning. My planned 45 minutes on the treadmill went
out the window. As it should.
(15) TnGs later I felt much better. Didn't have the ceilings or
clear skies to venture beyond the pattern, but it was plenty fun to
just work on technique.
Then the rain started...and it didn't stop for the rest of the day...and
I was OK with it.
So much OK I forgot to do the March wallpaper calendar. Tomorrow I
promise, he says sheepishly.
RV-14 Milestone ...control
Standing on wheels...
I received a text from my 25 year
old daughter this morning asking if I would have the
40 hours for my phase 1 flown off by July. I told
her I have about 25 more to go before I would be out
of phase 1. Circumstances, weather, wind and the
distance to the airport have hindered the progress
of getting those hours flown off. She said she was
asking because she was wanting to take the time off
from work so she and I could fly up to Oshkosh for
Airventure together. She and her husband moved away
from us this last year and its an 7-8 hour car ride
each way from Kentucky to her home in Springfield
MO. I figured its about 3.5 in the RV one way. I
know her mother is wanting those hours flown off as
well. I don't think she (my wife) was a big fan when
I started the project.
RV-9A Based K6I2
RV-Lancair Brotherhood Day...2/27 entry
Grand Strand Today
Expanding our range, Darwin and I flew 1+30 From AVL
to CRE (Grand Strand AKA North Myrtle Beach) today
for some fresh seafood. Darwin left first and I
never could catch him in my Lancair. I had him 10
miles in front on my ADS-B screen the entire trip.
Those RV-4s are fast! Our ground speeds were roughly
170 Kts. After landing, we both bought gas and then
took the courtesy car to Rockefellers Raw Bar for
lunch. I burned 20 gallons out and back so this
truly was a $100 lunch.
Full serve $5.25 per gallon at Grand Strand, but
hey, we're rich playboys, right?
Rv12is Pre Fabricated Rigid Fuel Lines ...Aircraft Specialty
Thanks to everyone that has
emailed us about this project. We have a great group
of beta testers lined up. Here is a sneak peak
of the first few of the initial pre production
N248RV New Panel...LuckyDuck
Replacing the Windscreen ...Dustyone
Router with dust extraction is your friend.
I did this last year for a customer. A router
with dust extraction made this a straight forward
A Huge Thank You
A very nice secret Santa sent me a new coffee
table book by Piers Bizony called 'Moonshots'.
No note...no card...it just arrived at the door.
Thank you very much, and you hit it out of the park.
Cameras and spaceflight...two huge non-RV interests
of mine. Starting the read took up most of my
evening last night, and I suspect many more to come.
Tips hat in direction of anonymous secret santa...